Opinion: PlayStation’s Huge Helldivers 2 Miscalculation First Big Test Post Jim Ryan

Explore the controversy surrounding Helldivers 2 on PC. Learn about PlayStation's decision and the potential consequences for the company.

[OptimusDK]

Sony the savoir of gaming based on comments on n4g.

[S2Killinit]

Well, when they are going up against MS, the bar is really low.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

At this point, it's probably better to match them up with Nintendo, I don't think they'll have to worry about Xbox for a long time if ever again.

[Rynxie]

Folks, buy starship troopers: extermination for PC. The real bug slaying game! It's also 16 player co-op. Support the federation, not the fake copy.

[StormSnooper]

You win stupidest comment of the month.

[ChronoJoe]

It’s alright but honestly soo dull compared to Helldivers 2. The systemic design in HD2 makes for a much more interesting game.

[anast]

Unfortunately, Starship Troopers isn't a good game. This is usually the case for PC games.

[S2Killinit]

Starship troopers doesn't really hold a candle to Helldivers. But, I wouldn’t say its “bad” per se.

[anast]

Even with this issue, I bet you can't name anyone else who is doing it better.

[Kaii]

I believe Sony wants to pump up those (monthly active users) stat for their next investor call.

I'd like for people not to support corps so blindly, they don't care about you.

[Magatsuhi]

It was supposed to be a requirement from the beginning. Quit being hyperbolic.

No other corporate body would temporarily disable it to allow easier access. Now things are better and peak player count is gone and that makes Sony evil?

People are stupid

[S2Killinit]

Yep. Its right there in the article. Sony waived the requirement temporarily, but now people are upset that the requirement to log in is being enforced as previously intended.

[arkard]

It was Arrowheads ceo decision to temporarily disable it. Here is his post https://www.reddit.com/r/He...

The only people I agree with in all this are the people that bought in countries that can't get psn accounts. Everyone else either missed the requirement which was their fault or is trying to drum up drama.

[--Onilink--]

Why even sell the game in those countries then? If you want to take the conversation to the game having the requirement since the very beginning, then the game should have never been listed by Sony in any country other than the 69 they support.

There is literally 0 reasons that benefit any gamer by being forced to create/link a PSN account, therefore 0 reason to support Sony’s dumb decisions regarding this

[anast]

@Oni

You are correct, but it doesn't matter. There is also 0 reason to support Steam but people do anyway.

[Jingsing]

What I've come to realise is PC users hate multiple stores/log in's. How do you square that circle with your politics? Because if everything must be on Steam and under steams system that looks a lot like corporate communism. I don't remember people complaining about multiple stores when you had to get off your backside and go into them to buy your game.

[franwex]

Gamers are extremely tribal. I got downvoted to oblivion once for stating that I bought a game on epic store when I could’ve gotten it on steam instead. But it’s the same PC, what difference does it make? I can understand tribalism with consoles somewhat (though it’s getting harder and harder to justify), but when it’s the same hardware, just downloaded from a different website? It’s like getting mad at someone for buying a game on Amazon, when they could’ve bought it at Walmart.

[Inverno]

Because buying a game on steam only to be forced to download another launcher to be able to play it is dumb. People shouldn't hafto jump through hoops just to play something they payed for. Last i checked we never bought a game at Best buy but were forced to pass by a GameStop so we can actually play it. Corporate dictatorship is more like it, consumers don't hafto take it.

[Christopher]

If this were true, then they would have attacked Ubisoft, EA, Take2, 2k, and more.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I honestly wish Steam had more competition, I really wanted it to be GOG, but the closest we got was Epic, and even that wasn't a good match against Steam. Steam has its own issues like its hatred towards anime games/Visual Novels, and inconsistent censorship (Who on the approval team OKed "Furry Sex with Hi*ler", but banned 2 out of 3 Dungeon Traveller games?).

I just hate how every publisher has to have their own Store, I don't mind stores that serve games from numerous developers like Steam/GOG/Epic/Etc... But when I need a launcher for Bethesda Games (which died and transferred my games like Doom Eternal to Steam), EA, Rockstar, etc... Each with their own logins and DRM (I love that GOG is DRM free), it gets really annoying. I tolerate it, but it's certainly not ideal, if you're going to have your own storefront, at least don't make me install another launcher, or make it optional (at least JAST/Manga Gamer don't do that to me).

[P_Bomb]

I wonder if they can turn this back, somehow? Probably not if they’re already delisting the game in certain countries. But something has gotta be learnt from all this.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Some countries don't even have PSN, so obviously they would at least need a solution for those people, or maybe allow some sort of global PSN ID so that they can play.

[goldwyncq]

For anyone who wants a Sony monopoly, this is a preview of what you'll get.

[derek]

Yes because only Sony has required you to have a free account to play an online game, lol. You guys are ridiculous, this has been a thing for Microsoft and all of their online games for years same for Rockstar, abk, ubisoft etc etc.

[NotoriousWhiz]

When did any of those other companies remove a paid game from the accounts of users in 100+ different countries?

[derek]

@Notorious, are you in one of those countries? If not then save your phony moralizing for someone else. None of you guys actually care and for many of these people you fake concern over they've operated under this requirement without issue when they play cod or gta etc. But this phony outrage campaign will cause publishers to reconsider given their legal exposure. And they didn't remove the game from people who have already bought it, they removed it from being sold going forward.

[MrDead]

...a corporation listing to the player base and reversing a decision, that's a good thing

[boing1]

The only thing they could do. CEO of Arrowhead has admitted that they knew about account linking 6 months before release of the game.

[StormSnooper]

Seems like the fake outrage is partly due to pent up frustration that Sony has delivered a banger.

[HankHill]

Yeah, that must be it. 🙄🤡

[StormSnooper]

Yeah 🤡

[Profchaos]

It's funny this is still a top.of.n4g while it's been almost a day of Sony backpedaling this decision. Even a community manager that pushed back against his bosses and yet we still just see this

[DazaMc]

You would think they were stealing babies blood the way people are getting on. Talk about first world problems.