Realism is one of many valid art forms and not the only recipe for success.
We're another day closer to the release of Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 on May 21st, and that means Ninja Theory is continuing to tease us with new snippets of info and footage - including a closer look at the game's Photo Mode.
I like photo modes. I will find some awesome shots and use them as wallpaper on my SX.
Gears 6 is going to look insane on UE5. The Coalition are UE experts. Hellblade 2 is going to be epic.
First game’s photo mode had some sweet filters. Even if they just port those over, I’ll be good!
A closer look at Ninja Theory's state-of-the-art graphics.
Will look best on PC with 60fps can't wait!
i think there will be some RT - PT mods like they did with horizon games etc
Hellblade 2 and Squadron 42 looks like a real next gen games hope to see a release date soon.
It runs in 964p on the Series X/S. What a joke. PC is definitely the way to go for this game
"It runs in 964p on the Series X/S. What a joke. PC is definitely the way to go for this game"
*NATIVE* 964p up to 1070p on a UE5 powered game which has all of its features like MetaHuman, Nanite, Lumen and Virtual Shadow Maps. And you called it a joke?!
And you claim to be a PC GAMER?!
I think you lie through your teeth.
When Hellblade II finally releases, I want to see benchmarks from your PC and have a good laugh!
Just wait for it.
@Obscure_Observer
You're definitely reaching now. Desperate comment on your part. Everyone knows PC is the way to go if you want to play it in 60fps. The UE5 engine excuse is getting old. Remnant 2 is using UE5 and it also has a 60fps option and the game looks great. GTFO liar which you're good at. It's getting embarrassing reading your comments most of the time 😂
https://www.ign.com/article...
By the way Black Myth Wukong will also have a 60fps option on consoles using UE5 😂 and the developer already mentioned it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch...
@Sonic1881
Everyone knows that ports for modern PC will ALWAYS be superior when compared to consoles, genius. Especially compared to 4 year old consoles which is not even fair. Only insecure weirdos needs to constantly keep talking about it.
That said, no *every* PC will do it. And I doubt you´re a PC gamer in the first place due your very dumb and clueless comments regarding technology and gaming.
Nobody will find you on PC only related topics, but in console topics cheerleading PS5 games and trashing *every single* Xbox game.
You don´t love games at all, all you love is a plastic box which I don´t even believe in your claims to own.
Just prove me wrong and just show us your benchmarks when Hellblade II gets released. I´ll wait.
can we just stop with the sounding like a broken record? ps5/switch games also run better on pc because DRUMROLL, pc's have stronger hardware.
"You don´t love games at all, all you love is a plastic box which I don´t even believe in your claims to own."
I already prove to a few people that I own a PC a few years back and they still didn't believe it. A matter of fact I've played with some of the user's on here on N4G that only owns a PC 😀. I also have a active steam account and the last game I played on it was Dragon's Dogma 2, Helldivers, and Baldur Gate 3. Anything else Obscure_Observer. Btw I also own a Nintendo switch and PS5
You are the joke. You say the same thing on every Xbox article always pushing the negative in your comments. Once in awhile I’ll see something sensible from you but mostly just trash comments.
Does it really destroy your world about how many frames or resolution game has ? Just because you hate Xbox doesn’t mean you have to bring in the negative into every article.
Game looks amazing and enjoyable and that what counts in the end.
I honestly dont have much interest in this. Its all pretty much pre rendered. Its not so much a game than an interactive movie. It somehow rubs me the wrong way because while I dont have an issue with games like Heavy Rain I feel that this is acting like its something its not. It tries to be a normal videogame but it really is not. As opposed to interactive games that focus on choices. Im sure this will be an ok game, but nothing that would make me want to spend money on.
Do all these people disagreeing with you actually think the game won’t look better on pc at 60fps?!
Or are they just console fan boys who refuse to accept that games on a $400 console will look and perform worse than on a $3000 pc.
@Espangerish
"Or are they just console fan boys who refuse to accept that games on a $400 console will look and perform worse than on a $3000 pc."
Assuming that you have a $3000 Rig, absolutely. But there´s lots a lying clowns here claiming to be PC gamers with very expensive and powerful machines, and yet, by their clueless comments alone it´s easier for anyone with minimal technical knowledge to spot a liar.
Any person that is in fact a PC gamer and PLAY actual games, knows that UE5 has incredibly high resource usage.
Now let clueless idiots call a joke, trash, unacceptable and a "blurry mess" the most resourceful and feature-rich UE5 game to date, running at internal resolution and performance of 1070p at 30fps on a 4 year old console which still can´t take advantage of more modern PC resources like FSR 3?
Digital Foundry literally is calling Hellblade II the most beautiful UE5 game to date and technical Marvel, but here you have a bunch of jealous liars sh!ting on the game just because it´s not available on their favorite plastic box.
I call them liars, because real PC gamers would be happy about a game which do nothing other to make their investments on a very expensive rig, worthwhile. Taking full advantage of it. Even if such game/genre is not their thing.
I think 60fps will actually cheapen the experience imo. I know 30 fps isn’t usually ideal but in this case makes it feel more like a movie, which is cool imo. 60 fps is good for sims and competitive games imo but I’m ok with 30 fps on games like this. I say this having a pc that can easily run anything at 4k/60 (2x 4090s)
Once you play games in 60fps or 120fps, It's hard to ever go back to 30fps. Lucky for me I can play this game in 60fps on PC🙌🏻
According to digital foundry, Hellblade 2 runs at 964p to 1070p at 30fps on series x
Say hello to UE5 gaming on 4 year old APUs.
But you can cherry pick the stats for or against, on your TV its probably still going to be the best looking console game yet.
No way, not from some cheap free tools unreal engine 5. This no sony high production game with its own custom engine, its a low funded cheap free unreal engine tools game.
Too many sacrifices. All this for graphics.
I dunno if it's worth it tbh.
@Hear wtf does that have to do with Sony!?
Oh had the numbers moved from 75% no one told me, needs an article don’t you think?
“ That's according to documents from the recent court leaks from Microsoft vs. FTC. A heavily redacted document from the case shows that nearly 75%, 74.8% to be exact, of Xbox Series owners own a Series S.” sept' 2023
or did you mean 60percent less powerful so 60% worse?
@darth I still don’t get it
You give me too much credit for being clever, when infact I am extraordinarily inept
All the post processing isnt making things any better either, you can see the environments just look blurry and faded. Senuas model looks very impressive but everything else just screams budget title.
According to Digital Foundry:
"This is a profoundly improved sequel and a game that is generationally advanced beyond its predecessor."
"Hellblade 2 is just on another level in almost every respect in terms of core technology."
"...and is possibly even a bit ahead of Hellblade 2's first gameplay trailer."
"This could be the very best looking Unreal Engine 5 title out there"
N4G's takeway: 1070p30fps off cheap free UE5.
I can see on this on the Series S but on the Series X? That's just horrible & unacceptable.
The Order and Death Stranding doesn't belong to interactive movie category.
Until Dawn and Detroit sure does.
Those games are almost ALL gameplay with choices that affect the end game. They include movie cuts to help tell the story.
This “game” is almost ALL movie with sprinkles of linear walking paths.
Holy Shit. First submitting an article..after that writing the first comment about it and praising the game, after that replying to yourself, praising the game even more..and after that defending the game and coming up with other games when someone points out it will be more like an interactive movie.
Sorry, can't take you serious any longer.
All the games you mentioned had more gameplay than hellblade 1...so no. Especially death stranding....you are so incredibly off the mark there. Some of the games you mention have branching storylines based on your choices....that's a lot more than a simple interactive movie...
Stop being disingenuous...
Curious to know how you have arrived at that conclusion when so little gameplay has been shown off jwillj2k4.
How about showing Ninja Theory some respect and acknowledging the hard work and talent required to make this game.
Real people worked really hard on this game and you choose to act like a 5 year old. Wait to play the game before you start with your criticism. Even then, if you don't like it that doesn't mean others wont, just accept it wasnt for you and move on, as it stand you just seem super ill informed and spiteful.
First off, categorizing does not equal criticism stop trying to gaslight.
Secondly, the “game” has been worked on for 7+ years and is only about 7 hours long, is about to release in a month, has only shown movie cuts and LINEAR WALKING PATHS as “gameplay”, (did I mention comes out in a month?) and has a price matching a AA game.
Did you forget the multiple no shows at various E3’s and then finally showing up only to give us more movie cuts advertised as “gameplay”?
Nothing is wrong with the above, however based on what little they’ve shown this “game”, it is a walking experience not an actual game title. They’ve substituted movie equipment for Unreal engine.
Dear God Obscure, you haven't played it squire, how about being objective just for once!
I get being excited, but to call something we know relatively little about a masterpiece without even playing it is ridiculous.
"I get being excited, but to call something we know relatively little about a masterpiece without even playing it is ridiculous."
Never see you calling anyone out by referring to a Playstation game as GOTY or Masterpiece, prior release.
So give me a break and spare me from your hypocrisy.
Because I have never seen any one individual behave the way you do here, you are such a negative force here on N4G, I only wish we still had the bubble system.
Don´t give a flying f* about what you think about me, dude. No sure why you even replied to my comment in the first place.
*You* are the negative force here. I´m an Xbox fan and this is an Xbox topic, an exciting one. And unsurprisingly you here full of salt playing the hype police.
GTFO and just refrain from ever reply to me again.
He's simply his excited for the game. You being angry over his excitement says allot more about you than it does him.
His "behavior" with this comment is "unacceptable" because he's getting excited over a game that's not in your favorite box.
You're definitely wrong in this scenario. Instead of admitting you're wrong here I'm sure you'll spin this in some miraculous deflection stating how he's still wrong.
I don't even pay attention to what Observer says at times but again, you're definitely wrong in this scenario.
They might be. Both come off as ridiculous. They didn't praise the 1st game anywhere near as much...it's blatantly obvious what they're doing
Lol both of you are really sick
just getting rekt and envious of something
you are both sony fanboys downplaying anything not from sony in this site
and lol @Crow
I have finished Hellblade 1 multiple times on PC and praised the game on different sites both of you making yourself look stupid and you are, pls seek help.
A masterpiece at 8 hrs or less including you never played Hellblade 2... Smh.
LMAO!! No review scores yet nor do you have a copy to make a claim of H2 being a masterpiece.
Digital Foundry quotes
Says image quality is 'mixed'
-letterbox
-Low res
-soft images
-unwelcome effects
-blurry
-image breakup in motion
-and artifact prone quality in motion
Sounds like Xbox was the one needing a Pro console
UE5 can run up to 120 FPS in open world on console. So one imagines, that this game is probably GPU bound the dynamic range also gives it away in the circumstance. So what it boils down to is how good UE5 runs on a dual issue GPU... I will go do some research but more likely given the same resolution the PS5 pro could deliver 60 FPS or close to it. With PSSR it could deliver 4K 60 no problem. (This would be upscaled from 1080p). Some caveats I would mention is we haven't seen PSSR yet. Is it inline with something like DLSS. Can it reduce the softness of the title on Xbox? This all assume UE5 wouldn't take advantage of RNDA 4 dual issue.
I suppose the game isn't finished yet though, Ninja Theory may still polish some of those rough edges yet, maybe?
"Sounds like Xbox was the one needing a Pro console"
Literally no point because they will still be tied down by the Series S
Congratulations, out of loads and loads of positive things eurogamer had to say about the visuals you got your notebook and pen out and found 7 negatives. You deserve a mickey mouse badge.
Hellblade 2 will run at a dynamic resolution on Xbox Series X|S, and the console version will not support a 60 fps mode.
It seems like the console version could support a 40fps mode though... if they add 120hz support.
You make a good point. I think 40 FPS options will become more common once 120hz TVs become more standardized.
That's conjecture on your part, you don't even know if the game can hold 30 FPS yet.
Its looking more and more like it was a design decision. which is to say they only wanted everything set to the best quality while providing that 'cinematic' experience of an epic big budget movie. How many big theatrical movies do you know that are 60fps?
Ive played the first game at 60 and while it makes things faster... it also breaks the mood and flow of the game. so I set it back to quality mode where it just feels better. Its not GoW... so its okay that it is slower paced.
@darthv72 You're trying to turn 30fps into some kind of positive when in reality it's just that the devs couldn't hit 60 consistently. There's a difference between saying 60 isn't needed and trying to gaslight people into believing it's some kind of win for the game.
And that's the other thing- games aren't films. Where 28fps is fine for films we've long since moved on from 30 being the standard here.
I'm open to being corrected here but I'm pretty sure that only Sony have gone the 40fps route so far, I see little evidence that they'll even entertain the thought
Welcome to actual UE5 gaming on the current gen.
Less impressive looking and less feature rich UE5 games are already running at an internal 720p to hit 60fps.
If only we had a 33.5 tf console to to run all these graphically demanding games.
@Einhander lol go ahead and buy into that lie with that 33TF thing and be highly disappointed when it comes out ..
What’s the point of the Series X being the worlds most powerful console if they are clearly just going to be held back by the Series S…and you know for a fine fact that’s the real reason why.
The S isnt holding it back... there is no fidelity or performance parity in use here. If anything, if it did offer a performance mode they would push for that on the X while keeping the S in its singular quality mode like other games have done. This is more of a CPU issue than a GPU one.
Hellblade 2 seems like it will be much heavier on the GPU side than the CPU side.
"What’s the point of the Series X being the worlds most powerful console if they are clearly just going to be held back by the Series S…and you know for a fine fact that’s the real reason why."
One real and also interesting fact, is that there wasn´t nothing holding the PS5 back to harm Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart´s development. I remember how some PS fans used to scream at the top of their lungs how that game is a true next gen game only possible on PS5 and blah blah blah.
And now we know that game (among many other Playstation games on PC) can run even on the Steam Deck which is weaker then the Series S.
It is what it is.
Wait a minute.
Didn't DF debunk all of those "R&C could run on PS4/without SSD" comments because they've tested it with various settings?
Just asking. Not stating.
ahahahahaha @purple101 nice one, Obscure you got owned right there :D
It is what it is ahahahahahaha
@purple I think youtube one doesn't use the SteamDeck's SSD rather micro SD card which obviously will be slower.
There's a difference between running and running the way the developer intended. Batman Arkham Knight and Mortal Kombat 1 "run" on the Nintendo Switch, but clearly at a cost. Ratchet and Clank runs on Steamdeck, but you're outputting at 720fps with reduced image quality and no raytracing. So it's impressive, absolutely, but don't sit there and act like it's 1 to 1 parity just because you can't grasp how the Series S holds back the generation. Hint: the Series X cannot massively outdo the Series S because of console parity, so it's unlikely the Series X is going to ever be utilised to its fullest.
You want to push up with a Pro model, not push down.
@Tody... and yet there are plenty of games that offer better visuals and performance on the X than the S. The whole 'parity' thing is about the content... not the fidelity or performance. Which is why things like raytracing is not in S games but is in the X versions. Same with offering various modes for quality and performance on X but not on S.
At the time of its release there was no technology available that could do what the ps5 ssd can do. As time went on, naturally, technology advanced. Why some people don’t understand time progression is baffling. Its like you’re sub-human or something less intelligent.
Mods I didn’t call him that, just saying he resembles/looks familiar to.
@darth72 What you and Observer fail to grasp is the development starting point. With a PS5 Pro, all games would be developed for the base PS5 as intended, and then enhanced for the Pro. The benchmark is the PS5 console. The PS5 is mandatory, the Pro is not.
With the Xbox Series S and X, the benchmark is ALWAYS going to be the INFERIOR console from the getgo, the Series S is mandatory. The Xbox X is supposed to be the base model of the generation, but thanks to the S it's never going to be. It's anchored down. Whereas a PS5 Pro would not anchor any development because it's not a different console, and it's not the benchmark of development.
Hence PS5 exclusives will always outdo Xbox Ones. That and developer talent I suppose. The Xbox Series X is never going to be fully utilised.
Why is that hardcore xbox fanbots like you are the embodiment of anti-truth? The poster boys of hypocrisy.
"7 years in development for just 30fps 🤔"
It took 12 years to develop Dragon´s Dogma 2 which runs at 30fps on both PS5 and XS and you were championing that game just the other day.
Such hypocrisy.
I can´t wait to see your lame excuses for GT6 also after 12 years in development to deliver a 30fps performance on both current gen consoles. It´s gonna be funny.
@Obscure
If you did proper research you’d see that they had the idea 12 years ago for Dragons Dogma 2. Dragons Dogma 2 hasn’t been in development for 12 years..
Took them five years to develop
Source: https://www.vg247.com/drago...
@Obsecure
Dumbest comment so far and Capcom is a 3rd party. Developed for 12 years? You really believe THAT?
So, ok I'll play your game. Starfield was developed for 25 years and only 30fps on the series consoles.
@Flakegriffin
"Took them five years to develop"
Hellblade II was announced back in December 2019 as an *early in development* game, so it didn´t took 7 years in development either.
It will be released on May which accounts for less than 5 years since announcement.
I think a game like this that is essentially an interactive movie is fine at 30fps. Should have little impact on gameplay and is more focused on visuals and atmosphere anyway
"Anything below the pristine, realistic scenes we see in pretty trailers is quickly dubbed a “PS3 game", which was the case during Rise of the Ronin’s debut."
Er... no thanks. Last thing we need is a PS3 looking Hellblade game.
I rather have Hellblade II truth to its roots. Dark Fantasy narrative driven adventure, focused on photo-realism, believable world, stunning looking environments, realistic combat, exceptional animations, state of art sound engineering and Melinda´s beauty and superior act skills to take Senua and Hellblade II´s immersion to a whole new level in gaming.
I would say atmosphere is a huge part of this graphics are a big part of that. But it's not the whole thing. I hope there's more to the gameplay than the original. I gave up on it before the story could really hook me.
This game is going to flop so massively.
A decade of anticipation and development.
Only to receive a message a couple weeks ago that gamers shouldn't expect the game to be very long.
Sure, it's going to be the most successful X-box exclusive this generation, but that isn't saying much.
10 years ago you could distract people with having a pretty picture on screen, you didn't need much in terms of gameplay / length.
But now? You can dress up a pig as much as you want, it still is a pig.
The fact that we haven't seen ANY real gameplay videos says more than enough regarding this.
Only pre-rendered "Gameplay" videos.
This generation is truly a sad one.
From both Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.
STFU
I would generally agree with the article to be fair.
I enjoyed the original well enough but the puzzles and combat were excruciatingly repetitive.
If the gameplay hasn't advanced then that is going to be really disappointing.