Microsoft’s gaming chief Doesn't rule out releasing Starfield and Indiana Jones on PS5

I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience

[_SilverHawk_]

which means itll happen.

[Jin_Sakai]

Starfield on PS5 Pro at 60fps and I might give it a try. Indiana Jones looks ok aside from being first person.

[darthv72]

Just get a....

really good PC.

...you thought i was gonna say Xbox... didnt ya?

[fr0sty]

To get one "really good" enough to make it worth buying over a console, it would cost a lot more. A PC that could outperform a PS5 Pro won't be cheap... definitely not $500.

[Jin_Sakai]

“Just get a....”

“really good PC.“

No thanks. We have two PS5s that we play games together on that cost less than one good PC.

[blackblades]

@Darth y'all gotta stop with the just get a PC talk almost sounds like a cult speech.

[Eonjay]

Obscure_Observer

It is in Microsoft's best interest to realse those games on PlayStation so I assume they will come. Even it's like a year's like some of PlayStation games going to PC.

If they want the money they will port them. If they don't they won't. The millions of PS5 owners aren't getting an Xbox and Microsoft is smart enough to know this.

Today it's 4. Tomorrow it will be 10. All we have to do is observe what they are doing.

[RedDevils]

I have a high end PC, and I still think Starfield it a wasted.

[StormSnooper]

Honestly not interested in either one. Especially starfield that turned out mediocre.

[-Foxtrot]

Of course

It’s just softening the blow

You know how people on here are already have a small meltdown and are making out like nothing has changed, “business as usual”

At one time the thought of a single exclusive coming to rival platforms was impossible, that it would never happen. Now 4 have just been announced and again the goal posts have changed.

It’s funny because for me it’s not me wanting this to happen, it’s just I’ve noticed Microsoft’s behaviour for the past couple of years tip toeing around into this and it’s more “for gods sake just rip the bandage off and do it, stop dithering”.

[ocelot07]

One of them being sea of thieves as well. That's a Microsoft made game. Not half way made for another platform and then cancelled as they bought the publisher (Bethesda and hifi rush). This is from Rare a studio they have owned for 20 years.

[Eonjay]

They aren't going to launch everything at once for several reasons:

First, we just found out they just purchased new PS5 dev kits so they have to actually get them complied and certified. That takes development work and time.
Secondly, even if they had all the titles ready to go they are still gonna stagger them because they don't want to cannibalize their sales.

its like how some folks had a list of PlayStation games they wanted to see ported to PC but they only have one team working on this and they can only do so much at once.

[Obscure_Observer]

"You know how people on here are already have a small meltdown and are making out like nothing has changed, “business as usual”

You were the one questioning Sony´s decision to go full PC multi platform because you were certain that you would get Starfield, Indiana Jones, Gears, Halo... among other big Xbox first party exclusives were making their way to Playstation.

Now you know WHY so is going aggressive on PC

There´ll be no Indiana Jones, Hellblade, Avowed or Starfield on Playstation!

You´re free to wait for it though.

[victorMaje]

@Obscure

If they make a profit with current offerings, everything that can come to other platforms will.

[fr0sty]

Obscure, you're hilariously desperate.

Phil himself wouldn't rule out that Starfield, Halo, Gears, or any Xbox franchise would come to PS5. They literally said they're going to "wait and see" how these 4 games turn out... this is a trial run. If they sell, more will come... and they will. Unlike you guys, we PS5 gamers actually buy games. I personally don't care for any of those titles (Maybe Halo, I did enjoy the first one), but there's over 50 million of us PS5 gamers out there, and you can bet that more of us would be interested in trying those games out than Xbox gamers. Once MS sees those dollar signs, you can kiss exclusivity goodbye.

[PapaBop]

This is why I can't stand Microsoft, they are having to compensate for their own failings in their first party games, I used to respect Phil Spencer for steadying the rocky Xbone ship but he talks so much bollocks these days. Didn't take him long to start the port begging. Anyway my best Phil Spencer impersonation: Starfield and Indiana Jones not releasing on PS5, I'm not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on PS5.

[darthv72]

this seems appropriate...
https://usagif.com/wp-conte...

[Christopher]

I'll believe things when it actually is announced. Until then... that's a good use of that gif.

Personally, I have Starfield on PC and I'm not playing it, so it going to PS5 isn't going to suddenly make me change my mind nor do I think it's that big of a thing at this point nor one of Microsoft's IPs I care about going multiplatform (I know, I just think it's not that good of a game, but at least I put in the hours to have that opinion). Far from. Now, if Indiana Jones is good and goes to PS5, I'm on board.

[OtterX]

"which means itll happen."

Once it becomes worth playing... which could take a while.

[Hofstaderman]

They easing their fanbase into it. Sort of like foreplay, but its going in a place you dont want it to go and consent was given by cheering their practises that brought them to this point.

[crazyCoconuts]

"No honey! I love you. But we DO have to talk..."

[OtterX]

"Enough! Enough! What's the safe word? What's the safe word???!!!" "...Playstation Domination."

[Kiryu1992]

Inagine if Phil said all games are coming to PS5. Internet would have a meltdown by announcing only 4 games they are easing the blowback. He said something along the lines of these games are more than a year old so their avenues for generating more revenue have slowed while other platforms allow them to sell them as full price and make a lot of revenue

We all should read between the lines. Phil himself said moving forward there will be less and less exclusives on any platform

The cost of Spider-Man 2 was “300 million” and GTA reportedly will cost over a billion so as the cost of making games go up these corporations aren’t charity they want to make as much money as possible

Even Phil said few people will be behaving like silly fanboys while everyone else understands where the future of gaming is

I hope gears of war will be remastered and release as a whole series for PC and PS5. It sucks that we can’t have all gears games on pc

[badz149]

of course it will happen. they are saying only 4 now to soften the blow and not outright kill the xbox as a console. imagine Phil himself coming outright saying from now on, ALL xbox 1st party games will be released on PS and Switch. what do you think would happen?? 0 sales for xbox going forward! maybe I'm exaggerating BUT let's face it, xbox is the least desirable console out of the 3 on the market now, and if Phil admits that there will no longer be xbox console exclusive from now on, the market will just drop xbox altogether in favor of PS and Switch!

[LG_Fox_Brazil]

"We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business"

They'll make some really interesting bucks and then it will only be a matter of time. What a weird, but predicable times we are living

[Vengeance1138]

https://twitter.com/Tidux/s...

Just 4 games huh Phil lol surely someone will believe you ;)

[Chevalier]

Not sure I get this strategy when games releasing a year after Xbox probably won't sell well. Just look at Tomb Raider when it was exclusive to Xbox for a year?

It didn't sell on Xbox then the year later released on Playstation and no one cared to buy it. These games absolutely will sink.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Literally no point in buying an Xbox. Just wait for the games to show up on other platforms. Or stream the Microsoft game collection from the cloud because that will eventually happen too. Lol lol lol. Just lol.

[darthv72]

Soon there will literally be no point in buying a Playstation... since they too are making moves to be more platform expansive.

Lol is right.

[fr0sty]

Releasing games on PC and releasing them on rival consoles is a world apart... PC only makes sense, as it is a separate community of enthusiast players who don't directly compete against console sales, most PC gamers also have consoles for the convenience of it... However, releasing a game on a rival console reduces the need to even have your console at all, especially if there's a bunch of exclusives on that other console that are not available on yours. Sony is in a strong position here, they are market leader, they don't have to make their games multiplatform in order to remain profitable, and now they are having one of their main competitors releasing their exclusives on their platform as well... So all Sony has to do is hang on to their exclusive games, and people no longer have a reason to buy Xbox.

Xbox, on the other hand, has painted themselves into a corner hardware-wise (possibly because they don't intend to stay in hardware). Players can get their first party games on PS5 if they want a console, along with all of PS5's exclusives, and also have the ability to play PSVR2, or they can get them on PC if they want to play them with bleeding edge tech and have the ability to mod them. There's literally no reason left to buy an Xbox.

[outsider1624]

Unless all playstation games are releasing on xbox as well then yeah no point buying in consoles..just get a pc. Right now? Xbox are releasing their games on playstation..so he's right in that part. No point in getting an xbox.

[TheEnigma313]

cope

[blackblades]

There is a point in buying one for those that like xbox. Its called options

[Profchaos]

He said one of those 4 games are not starfield or Indie but yeah it was vague he then went on to talk about making games multi plat the whole time

I have a feeling that was referencing the next 12 months but full blown future

Feels like a traditional Xbox wishy washy response

[P_Bomb]

“We want to make sure the audience that’s there has an appetite — maybe they don’t.”

So they’re testing the waters. I don’t see a big turnout for Pentiment tbh, but SoT and Hi Fi could do well enough.

[JEECE]

I mean, maybe. I won't speak too much to Sea of Thieves because I'm a mile outside of the target audience, but I have heard that there are a lot of people who like it, and it does solid Steam concurrents for a game of its age (and we can extrapolate from steam that there are decent numbers playing on Xbox and Gamepass PC, even though we can't see those numbers).

I'm just not sure how much commercial appeal Hi-Fi Rush has though. I know plenty of people checked it out on Gamepass, but it maxed out around 6k on Steam concurrents, so it clearly didn't light the world on fire among the audience that had to pay for it. And yes I know being on GP can hurt steam numbers because some steam users also have GP, but clearly plenty don't because other games that are on GP have done much better numbers on Steam.

[shinoff2183]

If theybrelease physically ill buy hi fi day one on ps just to own it not digitally

[Destiny1080]

Pentiment got a 9 from edge magazine and was Edges Xbox Game of the Year for 2022

[Killer73nova]

Smart move from Microsoft. Have exclusives on gamepass and release on different platforms and rake in more money from a sales.
Gamers will have the option to buy either buy the game or subscribe to gamepass.

[shinoff2183]

Pretty much.

[kaos89]

With XBOX and Playstation now on pc instead of buying 2 consoles just get a gaming pc then you can play both xbox and playstation on pc along with everything else on pc. Sorry but PC master race is the console winner.

[Sonic1881]

Or just get a PC/PS5 because *most* Sony exclusives doesn't release day one on PC like Xbox games.

[kaos89]

As of today the new interim Playstation CEO wants to get more aggressive with putting Sony games on pc. Idk if that means more of them and sooner. We shall see what that means. Kind of what I alluded to in my first post. https://wccftech.com/playst...

[andy85]

Why do people always say get a PC when everything has drawbacks. It'd cost me a fortune to game on PC rather than my physical games overall. You wait years for ports and something never get one. Games are buggier because of accounting for so many configurations. Bad ports, Far more hackers, troubleshooting and less just plug and play.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

Don't worry. Nvidia won't let this slide. 'We present to you the GeForce RTX 6070. Double the consoles performance in 2026 for the low price of $999.'

[shinoff2183]

I'm not really feeling that price

[shinoff2183]

Don't want the headache. Just wanna put disc in install and game to work.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

Would definitely buy Indiana Jones if they release it on PS5 because I am big fan of Machine Games .

[ravens52]

I am too. You know, growing up playing their games on my ps (my preferred console). Good ol day before Phil started doing things that are "good for the industry" lol

[Crows90]

Yeah. Some in the Xbox side refuse to accept that possibility. They called all the rumours MASSIVE misleading...when in fact it's not far off at all.

[Christopher]

To note, there were multiple levels of the rumor. It started with rumors over Game Pass being renamed and going to other platforms, but the reality is they're curating older games for multplatform ports. Game Pass isn't changing or going anywhere, but they are taking some games multiplatform.

This is why this podcast was perfect. It outlined their plans and made sure it wasn't the more extreme rumors out there where things were just all going multiplatform.

[JEECE]

Yeah it's crazy they are all celebrating the rumors being a "nothing burger" when in fact the rumors from reputable sources were basically proven to be correct.

It's like someone told them the earth is going to explode in about 3000 years, and they all started freaking out that the world is going to end in the next year. Then scientists came out and confirmed the explosion is going to happen 2987 years from now, and they all laugh and say the rumors were false. It's like, no, the exaggerated panic was wrong, but the original rumor was correct.

[PhillyDonJawn]

Wishful thinking lol

[anast]

The PNG files from Starfield are going to look awesome on the PS5. I'm buying Indy though.

[Scissorman]

I hope everyone realizes that Phil & Team were put in a position where they could not announce Starfield or Indiana Jones coming to PS5 today. The meltdown would have been too great. These four games are simply for the fanbase to get used to the idea. The rest are going to come, the decision has already been made.

[Jingsing]

"We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience" So bring 4 out of date games to PS5 that under-performed on Xbox will give you a learning experience? I'll tell you right now what the experience will be, low sales and hardly any profit or interest in Xbox raised. The true angle is for Microsoft to try and get Sony to bring higher quality titles to their platform for the cheap dross they are giving them. Sadly Sony might just fall for it, They have fallen for Microsofts PC angle and that has diluted PlayStation.

[ocelot07]

Thing is though gamepass is why they didn't perform well on Xbox. On PC hifi rush and sea of thieves have done solid I think not sure about the other 2.

I think sea of thieves will do well on playstation and switch.

It was a game that released bare bones but now has plenty of meat on the bone like no man's sky.

[shinoff2183]

I feel hi fi will do better on ps, possibly grounded. Sea of thieves would probably pick up some steam for the unfortunate ones that play online games.

[Nacho_Z]

Mild interest in Indiana Jones depending on reviews although I doubt it'll compare well to Uncharted. You can keep Starfield, thanks.

[StormSnooper]

Who cares about starfield? It turned out to be mediocre.

[shinoff2183]

Tbf so did no man's sky but it got better. I'm willing to wait on starfield. Just like cyberpunk got a second chamce and no man's sky.

[StormSnooper]

But no man’s sky was by a tiny studio. I just don’t see starfield being much better than it currently is. But sure I see your point.

[Father__Merrin]

Starfield will be on ps5 same with indiana jones. The only titles that will remain are likely forza and halo and fable

[MrSec84]

The Verge has an article confirming that Xbox wants their games everywhere, so this is happening eventually, on PlayStation, Nintendo, Apple and Android.

They're supposedly focusing on Hi-Fi Rush, Pentiment, Grounded and Sea of Thieves, which we'll probably hear about once Nintendo have revealed their next console in early March.

Once those games are out we'll start to hear about the next phase of releases, likely more older Xbox One games (think Quantum Break, Ryse Son of Rome, Ori (for PS4 and PS5)), maybe Sunset Overdrive, but they have to stagger the launches because there are limited resources to work on ports for PlayStation, Nintendo and the other smart devices.

It seems very likely that going forward Xbox Hardware will be more PC Like, so that devs only have to make the Windows Version, then lock in the settings that run best on those devices.#
More hardware refreshes makes sense too, including adding a handheld and an AR/VR device, probably using the same specs as the handheld for processing.

[ironmonkey]

Get a ps5 now it'll play both exclusives. Win for Sony.

[BillyCrystals]

No s***. The people who breathed a sigh of relief in thinking "whew, it's only 4 exclusives" are suckers and/or incapable of reading between the lines. This is just the beginning.

[IRetrouk]

I dont understand why they don't just rip the band aid off in one go, why prolong saying what we all know you want to?

[shinoff2183]

Because theirs billions of Xbox consoles and games sitting on store shelves as we speak. They rip that band off and it's no good. They'd be stuck so much money Los

[IRetrouk]

That's a fair point