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Limited Run Says It Will Continue To Support Physical Xbox Releases 'Whenever Possible'

As part of the mass Xbox layoffs this week, news has also emerged about the company's physical games being impacted, with Microsoft reportedly shutting down key departments.

While there's no evidence just yet Microsoft is necessarily withdrawing completely from this space, it has raised questions about the future of physical support within this ecosystem - with speculation Xbox could outsource and might be consolidating.

Now, in response to this development, the CEO of physical distributor Limited Run Games, Josh Fairhurst, has chimed in on social media. mentioning how his company would "continue to support Xbox" hard copy releases "whenever possible":

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crazyCoconuts113d ago

Why isn't MS PR getting in front of this messaging and making an official statement? All of this speculation is based on that Windows Central guy's tweet that he's since backed off of a bit.

shinoff2183113d ago

How do you pr what your actually going to do. Can't comment if it's your actual plan.

crazyCoconuts113d ago

Spin it. It's what PR does. If it's true, you soften the blow... XSX will continue to support physical media, will be reduced but not eliminated, better for the environment, this is what our gamers are asking for, dunno, MS PR has been super active spinning/lying and getting out ahead of things before. Maybe they were caught off guard by Jez's tweet but they shouldn't have been...

jwillj2k4112d ago

U can, just tell us this is allowing gamers to access more games since physical sales arent available in every country. People are so stupid and blind they’ll run with that.

Zeref112d ago

But we know they are not lol.

The same person that started that rumor confirmed that it's not happening any time soon.

crazyCoconuts112d ago

@zeref - confirmed it's not happening soon?
He just clarified that he doesn't know what is actually happening in the broader sense so people shouldn't jump to conclusions.

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Plague-Doctor27112d ago

Jez is MS PR. His statement is already wishy washy enough to soften the blow when Avowed/Indiana Jones are digital only

crazyCoconuts112d ago

Yeah maybe he was driven by anger at first and then realized that his career is riding on MS support. Or maybe he realized he's working with partial/incomplete information and lots of gaming sites are running with it like it's a forgone conclusion and it's gonna look bad when MS announces Monday that these rumors were BS... I really don't know

Zeref112d ago

If Xbox goes all digital. It 100 percent is not happening this generation.

Profchaos112d ago

They did remember adorably all digital Phil got out in front of it saying well yes we said that but the plans changed guys nothing's to worry about.

All of this was exposed months ago in the FTC documents they backtracked and are now setting the wheels in motions let's see if they come through with a new cheaper series x that's "adorably all digital"

crazyCoconuts112d ago

Exactly, remember that visual had the customer feedback about Loving everything being digital you can play the same game anywhere and MS is so environmentally sustainable or whatever. If this is really happening, I'm surprised we haven't been fed that PR yet.

Zeref112d ago

Yeah this is getting out of hand. These websites never follow up on the stuff that they post. They'll run with the initial headlines and then never fix them when it's corrected.

I assume there will be the Activision Blizzard roundtable soon and they'll address things then.

neutralgamer1992111d ago

please do tell how what Phil is doing is different from what don matrick originally announced at xbox one reveal? and that whole phil is saving xbox brand is nonsense too

this will be such an easy win for playstation and this means that MS will be going 3rd party with its gaming division soon after. They want to sell content and for that they don't need xbox

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XiNatsuDragnel112d ago

Yeah going digital only Microsoft this is bad for gamers and limits gamers, Physical > Digital.

Zeref112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

PC gaming has been all digital for ages and it's one of the biggest platforms, only behind mobile.

But Xbox going digital only is "bad for gamers" lol stop it.

Also it's not happening any time soon.

XiNatsuDragnel112d ago

True man that doesn't mean pc is exactly a console 1:1 and I say this if one goes for all digital one follows it's a deadly trend big brother.

gold_drake112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

thats because a PC is never the same. not everyone has a disc drive or a blu ray drive. also, pcs are not JUST for games.

being digital is a logical step for the pc realm.

consoles are primarily built with discs in mind. with all-digital options.

THATS the difference.

Plague-Doctor27111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

There are some important differences between PC and consoles.

There are no "generations" on PC. So stuff released 10-15 years ago is still playable. Theres no guarantee anything you buy digitally today on console will be downloadable/playable in 10-15 years, but I think this is unlikely.

On PC you have 3rd party options for storefronts. If a console maker goes all digital they have a total monopoly and control over pricing, dont even have to worry about physical titles being cheaper (which they usually are)

On PC you can often set up private servers for games that have lost support, or even private servers for "old" versions of games.

There is very little risk your digital purchase on PC becomes useless. And even options such as piracy are possible in a worst case scenario. Maybe you should try to play Fable 3 on PC in preparation for the upcoming Fable game. Try to think of a workaround that would work for a console in that situation

Profchaos111d ago

PC is different in many ways once something is on steam they typically won't pull it whereas I can no longer buy many 360 games because it's shuttered.

The PC is also a open platform meaning games contents and fikes can be extracted and preserved. a console is a black box a company dictates how it runs and for how long it runs at least modern consoles anything pre 7th gen runs fine offline

shinoff2183111d ago

Zeref

Well that's fking great for oc gaming. Congrats pc gaming for being all digital. Console gaming is a bit different. Physical on console is still wanted and severely underestimated.

How many who bought baldurs gate 3 would've bought it physical instead but digital was the only option? Alan wake 2? How many indie games out there don't have a physical release?

Of course digital sales are going to be higher. It only makes logical sense. Physical sales are still good especially when you take those things into account. Let's also not forget how many of those charts lump mobile gaming into I also.

I think I seen a thing for Playstation. That digital/physical was 60/40. That's pretty fking great imo cause when you look at how many games on ps aren't physically available its pretty neck and neck. Say what you want but the digital only bs is exactly that pure bs

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Zeref112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

Nothing will change if consoles go all digital.
The market for physical games is hanging by a thread.

Xbox players buy digital games the most. But it's not like Playstation is far behind.
Last I heard it's 80 percent for Xbox and 70 percent for Playstation.

There's a reason they both have all digital consoles.

It's going to happen eventually. Nothing is going to stop it.

We just need to make sure that when it happens that we ensure it's a good experience for us.

We should still be able to store our games on external storage and they need to bring digital trading and selling ASAP.

If the next Xbox launches with that. I'll have no issue going all digital.

XiNatsuDragnel112d ago

I get it you must like not owning something oh nevermind that subs so it's irrelevant. I think all digital future is bad for people who can't afford it. If ever companies does it. Then hey I can read books or *off topic * quests. Instead of this. Nintendo fans are buying physical like 80% and that barely changes too so I can use numbers but I want to say we need options so you can reach more customers. Physical > Digital

Plague-Doctor27111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

The US data that just came out for physical data in 2023 was:
>50% Switch
40% Playstation
<10% Xbox

The spread is probably higher in other countries due to cost/internet etc. I know in Australia for instance a physical game will often be 20-30AU$ cheaper than digital. Sony was still making a good chunk of change off physical based on the Insomniac leaks

The world isn't ready for all digital this decade

And btw they will NEVER bring digital trading/selling. A major point of going digital is destroying the 2nd hand market

The Wood111d ago

Cap. Anything Microsoft do is fair game for you. Some people still want the option to sell on borrow their games to whomever they want to. Taking away that option is highly anti consumer wherever it happens be it this gen or next. Forcing gamers to go all digital is scummy but xbox guys are at a ratio 10 percent physical 90 percent digital anyway so I could see why they'd do that for their own customers base.

Zeref112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

With services like GamePass and PS Plus, Gaming is more affordable than EVER. If you can't afford 10 dollars a month, you probably can't afford 70 dollar games either.

So the affordability argument is out the window.

And you don't own the games you have on the disc. Some games aren't even playable from disc without downloading stuff to your console anyway.

You don't own the game any more on disc than you own the game on any storage device.

If it's about game preservation just put the games you buy on an external storage device. It's literally the same thing.

The only issue is trading and selling.

@Gold_drake

.... That comment doesn't even deserve a counter argument.. That is just pure utter BS and you know it.

XiNatsuDragnel111d ago

You like lack of ownership don't you?, Nii San.

shinoff2183111d ago

Zeref

Tell that to people that bought wii u and 3ds digital games.

Truth is most disc games are completly playable from disc. For instance star ocean 2 remake. Completly playable without connecting to the internet. The day one patch was for some languages. Now you get some games that aren't complete but it's bs on the parts of ea, ubisoft, Activision and it's still not even all of their games that aren't complete. Truth is most are but keep going with you and ms mission.

raWfodog111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

I’m assuming if Xbox goes with an all-digital console release next-Gen (if they actually do release anything), that will be the official end of their backwards-compatibility for physical games.

XiNatsuDragnel111d ago

Ofc man Xbox wanted this since 2013.

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mkis007112d ago

What will keep retailers from pulling consoles? Wasn't this always the threat? I get that xbox isn't really about the console anymore, but it's too soon to drop it completely.

Profchaos112d ago

Who knows they might take it as a challenge like we will sell it directly to the consumer but you're right I'd retailers lose their software cut why bother many are seemingly giving up on Xbox software as is

crazyCoconuts112d ago

Maybe if it gets so low that retailers are shrinking displays on their own, MS would rather pull it all together, avoid the optics of looking like the brand that they just invested trillions in is clearly losing. Maybe execs feel instead of losing, change the game.

Zeref112d ago

It's not happening any time soon. Maybe nextgen and by then Playstation will probably be doing the same.

Hofstaderman112d ago

Why? PlayStation has a healthy mix of physical and digital sales.

mkis007111d ago

With the detachable and standalone disc readers, that doesn't seem to be Sony's current path.

shinoff2183111d ago

Ps shouldn't be lumped into xbox bs. Sony was the first one to allow small publisher to print runs as low as 1k. Why would Sony stop all of a sudden. Especially showing 40 perce t physical sales. Would be higher to if half to a little under half of games released with a disc to begin with.

Zeref111d ago

They didn't release an all digital console for no reason.

It's happening.

Hofstaderman111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

They still release a console with a disc drive and even a sell seperately disc drives for those who bought a digital console and want to buy physical discs later. The fact that their new digital sku can be upgraded with a disc drive was introduced after the previous digital sku which could not be paired with a drive actually tells you their commitment to physical games.

Stanjara112d ago

Idk why is this such a shock. Xbox owners didn't buy physical games. Retailers started to return the disks back to it's publishers. Than retailers stopped to order new ones. Than publishers decided to only release PS and Switch physical.

Than MS said: -You know what Phil? We need to fire some people.

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill3d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow13d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill3d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb3d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

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How EA & Xbox Are Defining Gaming's Bleak Future

Xbox and EA have recently made baffling moves that define how bleak the future of the gaming industry is with major companies at the helm. Ryan Bates from "Last Word on Gaming" posits in this op-ed that maybe it's not ineptitude, but intention.

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Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Name someone that isn't trying to look us these days maybe cdpr.

Take two, ubi and yes even PlayStation are pushing us to own nothing and be happy with our live service ad injected games on a sub so they can raise prices at will and take access away when they see fit.

If it keeps up I'll be a full time retro gamer and this industry will be crashing hard

As rediculas as it sounds we need government reforms to defend consumer rights

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander19724d ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing694d ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19724d ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto4d ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto4d ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19724d ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21834d ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto4d ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander19723d ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv724d ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh4d ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19724d ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow13d ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv723d ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix764d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1254d ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC4d ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19724d ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC4d ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia4d ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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