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Xbox Series X|S vs Xbox 360 Sales Comparison - September 2023

September 2023 is the 35th month the Xbox Series X|S has been available for. In the latest month, the gap grew in favor of the Xbox 360 when compared to the aligned launch of the Xbox Series X|S by 115,481 units.

In the last 12 months, the Xbox 360 has caught up to the Xbox Series X|S by 1.82 million units. The Xbox Series X|S is currently ahead by 2.66 million units.

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jznrpg212d ago

Series S/X is losing to Xbox One this year not just 360. That’s really bad news.

Tacoboto212d ago

It is. Xbox's failure in 2022 and not having a significant title this year until Starfield, they didn't give new players a reason to invest in the hardware. The Game Pass third party titles only appease current owners, they won't and clearly don't drive adoption.

Einhander1972211d ago

But Starfield is in this chart and 360 sold still sold 25% more consoles in matching months.

And the industry has technically grown, so if the market was matched XS should be ahead just by the nature of industry growth. So when you analyze it fully you can see how far behind 360 XS actually is.

Look at this chart for comparison.
PS5 vs PS3 Sales Comparison - September 2023 - Sales
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crazyCoconuts212d ago

So now do they double down and use their massive collection of companies to only churn out exclusives to see if they can turn the ship around?
Or do they go the other extreme and make games available everywhere to maximize their profit while trying to get GamePass on other platforms?

dveio212d ago

Out of a plain and simple business perspective, why would you build the most powerful console yet and then don't care about units being sold?

I can imagine heads at Microsoft are not enjoying these numbers, at all.

Then again: software sells hardware, always has.

Microsoft had prepared their hardware well. They reportedly we're even confident about it compared to PS5's specs. But they again fell short on their software. Their units numbers would be different otherwise.

Who knows what's still to come, I certainly don't. But after three years into this gen, Gamepass alone doesn't push any additional units to people.

I can't imagine how high the exact amount of billions of dollars must be that Microsoft has already put into their Xbox Gaming Division, only to hold up against Playstation. Bonkers.

andy85212d ago (Edited 212d ago )

Tbf they probably did care originally, but the gens lost heavily now. But it's not about console power that sells a console so that most powerful tagline did nothing, it's constantly delivering quality over the years and not smoke and mirrors. They're just lucky the PS had massive stock issues so they got a decent amount sold in the beginning.

DivineHand125212d ago

This is an unfortunate hurdle Xbox can't seem to overcome. The series X is an amazing console but as good as it is, if someone came to be and said "I can only have one console which would you recommend" I can't in good concence even suggest the Xbox brand because it is lacking in exclusives and there is no incentive for playing 3rd party games there over a PS5.

crazyCoconuts212d ago

Also the fact that the PS5 controllers are so much more advanced and there's no path to VR with Xbox...

TiredGamer212d ago (Edited 212d ago )

You are missing the forest for the trees. Despite the fact that the XBox is in last place, it’s still selling a heck of a lot of consoles and there’s money to be made. And the console is a flagship advertisement for GamePass no matter what. Kind of like how the Surface lineup of computers don’t compete anywhere near to Apple in sales, but still bring in revenue and keep the hardware brand awareness alive. MS will eventually go platform agnostic with GamePass, but they might continue to design and sell consoles if it makes them enough money and as long as the hardware economics formula is positive.

crazyCoconuts212d ago

That's a great point. Don't need to be winning to make some money. That may also mean they focus less on exclusives if they're not making a big difference in console sales

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot12h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast9h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear215h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

outsider16243h ago

Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.

MajorLazer7m ago

I ****ing hate the S. The tragic thing is withour the S MS doesn't even threaten 10m units sold this gen 🤣

LucasRuinedChildhood13h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter9h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Chocoburger2h ago

If it were Series X only then they'd only be selling to 25% of the Xbox Series userbase, and that's certainly not worth the time and effort into doing a port. Could just do PS5 & PC instead. No compromises needed.

Jin_Sakai7h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate7h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate6h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

outsider16243h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"

Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.

IHateNate2h ago

So their scope is greater than that of GTA6 and warzone? Wow. Crazy

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Celebrate the Diablo Anniversary with March of the Goblins

Come celebrate the 1-year anniversary of Diablo IV and the 2-year anniversary of Diablo Immortal! There are heaps of rewards to mark these celebrations with a bounty of devilish goods across both games.

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anast14h ago

This game is about to get buried by Path 2.

LordoftheCritics13h ago

Still no global chat or group finder.

The emptiest MP game ever made.

OtterX13h ago

1 more month then I can celebrate 1 year since i stopped playing and uninstalled the game.

Walalon11h ago

We are on the same team brother!

Rynxie8h ago

I uninstalled d4 after they kept screwing over the sorc build and I beat the game. I also uninstalled immortal after reading the end. I actually went back to d2r here and there.

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Tales of the Shire Stands at a Fork in the Road Regarding Magic

Tales of the Shire has many hurdles to jump to live up to the J.R.R. Tolkien masterpiece, and magical elements might be its most pertinent one.

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