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Final Fantasy 16 rockets up sales charts after State of Play showcase

April 13 saw a big Final Fantasy 16 gameplay presentation as part of a PlayStation State of Play broadcast.

Now, the following day, Final Fantasy 16 sits atop Amazon US's best-selling games chart, overtaking the likes of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, NBA 2K23, the Resident Evil 4 remake, and the Dead Space remake.

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SullysCigar415d ago

Heard about this. People came away seriously hyped after the State of Play deep dive, so presumably everyone's rushed out and pre-ordered it.

It does look awesome. Seems to incorporate all the best parts of the top games in their genre into one Final Fantasy package. Easy day one.

blackblades414d ago

Guess that should shut the people up that was throwing "it was a waste of time" out

Adrian_v01413d ago

Honestly I was a bit disappointed by the graphics in this state of play, especially the in game character models. Made my hype drop somewhat.

sparky77415d ago

Not really news, it's not even in the best sellers for 2023 so this bump doesn't prove much. Even Forespoken topped the charts after showcases.

But again I hope it sells well because SE needs a win.

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Jigga69414d ago (Edited 414d ago )

Final Fantasy VII Remake did 5 million in less than 4 months. Check the Square Enix tweet here :
https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

After almost 3 years, sales must be way higher. So yes, it's also a success. Go troll and cry elsewhere. ;-)

shinoff2183414d ago

Ff7r has sold 14 million according to what I just read

andy85414d ago (Edited 414d ago )

FFVIIR did absolutely miles more than 5 million 😂 those numbers are before the PS5 and PC version (where it was #1 for multiple weeks) and over 2 years ago.

Chevalier414d ago

5 million was only from 2020 April launch till August 2020 confirmed 5+ million only 4 months later. Estimated to have done about 15+ in their first year if sales.

RauLeCreuset414d ago

I just pre-ordered a Deluxe Edition to help alleviate your concern!

Obscure_Observer414d ago

"But will it sell as well as FF15 and get 10ml in sales? I don't see that happening when FF7R only managed 5ml."

I think it depends on how well the game performs on Metacritic. If it scores 90 or higher, I think it has the potential to sell more than FF7R, but definitely will not sell as well as FF15, because its exclusive to PS5 which will probably be around 35 million units sold around June. Heavy hitters like Jedi Survivor and Diablo 4 will also be a factor.

Still, like you said, here´s hoping the game finds great success in sales. SE definitely need it. I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release, after all, Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS.

RauLeCreuset414d ago

"I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release, after all, Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS."

Your past statements give the impression the above quote is using a fake display of concern to gloat about ABK and spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt about Sony's future.

You went from "Sony will get what they deserve" and "I don´t pity them a bit" 75 days ago to "I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release" because "Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS"?

"'"It's a business.'

"It is. And since Sony is making disgusting exclusion agreements to prevent third party games ever comes to Xbox, do not expect MS to play fair with them.

"Sony will get what they deserve."

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

"@BehindTheRows

"'You can't make this up.'

"I don´t need to. Facts speaks by itself. Sony will get what they deserve. Fire against fire. Glove´s off. It´s simple as that.

"@Shadowsteal

"'You got it backwards. Microsoft started their acquisition spree 5+ years ago. Sony made these deals to compete instead of purchasing developers and publishers at the same rate as Microsoft.'

"Nah, dude. Sony has been doing it for a long time, since the PS1 days. They did the same thing to prevent FFVII to come to others platforms, among many many titles back in the day.

"Since nor SEGA or Nintendo had the amount of money Sony had at the time, SEGA was merciless crushed as Sony made almost all third party games exclusive to Playstation. They didn´t had to do that. SEGA was third at that time.

"Now they´re facing a company that can fight back and harder. And I don´t pity them a bit."

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Obscure_Observer414d ago

@RauLeCreuset

Yes, Sony will get what they deserve like we predicted since the ABK acquisiton process started. All of Sony´s shady practices will come to light and Sony don´t have anyone to blame but themselves.

To said Sony will get what they deserve doesn´t mean I want Playstation to disappear. I never said that. I said many times that I don´t care whether Sony acquires SE. Capcom or even From Software.

I just want Jim Ryan to STFU and do something about it.

You won´t see me here crying over any studio or publisher Sony might acquire in the future because I´ll just buy their console if it have the games I want, period!

shinoff2183414d ago

It'll come out to pc to. Plus I think it said xbox accounted for 2 million of ff15 sales. I got suckered into buying ff15 myself

shinoff2183414d ago

Obscure Sony didn't prevent og ff7 from coming to Nintendo. Nintendo did by being stubborn and sticking with cartridges. It's well known. Also Sony didn't stop ff from coming to sega. Ff was never on sega. Maybe Nintendo stopped it way back. It's known the Saturn was horrible to develop for maybe square wanted no part.

RauLeCreuset414d ago (Edited 414d ago )

"To said Sony will get what they deserve doesn´t mean I want Playstation to disappear. I never said that. I said many times that I don´t care whether Sony acquires SE. Capcom or even From Software."

Interesting. I never said you want Playstation to disappear. Yours was the first comment here to bring up PS disappearing as a result of the ABK acquisition. You have said similar things previously, like when you claimed Sony is playing the victim like they will go bankrupt if the sale goes through. You doth protest too much, methinks, and revealed more than you intended. It seems you view the ABK acquisition as an existential threat that could end Playstation and are very excited by that prospect. Because revenge for Sega! Or whatever...

"Sony is playing victim to the point of downplaying their own studios telling regulators that no studio could ever beat COD´s level o success and popularity, like they will go bankrupt in case MS acquires Activision/Blizzard.

"It´s good that someone is willing to call out Sony on how full of sh!t they are when comes to achieve their interests."

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Isn't that ironic? Remember "I never said that"? Sony never said they will go bankrupt. That was your characterization of their argument because you ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ hope that will be the case.

Obscure_Observer414d ago (Edited 414d ago )

@RauLeCreuset

"It seems you view the ABK acquisition as an existential threat that could end Playstation and are very excited by that prospect."

The only who believes the ABK´s acquisition by MS as some kind of existential threat to Playstation is Jim Ryan himself.

"Because revenge for Sega! Or whatever..."

More like poetic justice, I would say. What you put out into the universe it gives back to you.

"Isn't that ironic? Remember "I never said that"? Sony never said they will go bankrupt. That was your characterization of their argument."

No ironic at all. I said Sony act like they´ll go bankrupt in case the ABK´s deal pass through. That´s my interpretation of Ryan´s little act.

"because you ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ hope that will be the case."

That´s your interpretation. I´m pretty sure I´d said Playstation will go nowhere with or without COD, but somehow you couldn´t find it in my comment history. Maybe you missed it, maybe not. Anyway, this deal will go thru and Sony will have to deal with both regulators and politicians not to mention the fact that they´ll have to try and secure COD for Playstation if they´re really worried about Playstation gamers, which means they´ll have to deal with MS going forward.

Are they will ask them to sign that 10 year deal that they previously refused? Are they´ll tell MS to shove it? Are they´ll focus in develop of their own COD killer? Only God knows.

All i can say for certain is that the day after the ABK´s acquisition approval, nothing will change for Playstation players. Enjoy your gaming.

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RauLeCreuset414d ago

@Obscure

You sure sound like someone who genuinely wants this PS5 game to find "great success in sales" and "hope SE to be acquired by Sony" and not at all like someone with a 20 year old ax they're trying to grind. /s

"That´s your interpretation."

You mean like how it's your interpretation that Sony acts like or believes* an ABK acquisition is an existential threat??? As you admitted in your reply. Now you want to call out interpretations??? The difference is that you're the one who keeps making comments about the deal putting Playstation out of business, not Sony or Jim Ryan. You're projecting your own beliefs onto Sony that the deal is an existential threat. There's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation. You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business.

*Which is it by the way? Is Sony full of it and playing victim to act like the deal will bankrupt them, or do they actually believe it? You've made both arguments. They can't both be true.

"I´m pretty sure I´d said Playstation will go nowhere with or without COD, but somehow you couldn´t find it in my comment history. Maybe you missed it, maybe not."

1) I love how you say that as if that's on me to do. Maybe it's on you to locate and produce evidence FROM YOUR OWN COMMENT HISTORY that YOU BELIEVE supports YOUR argument? We're still waiting on you to provide quotes to support your interpretation of Sony's comments. It's not enough that I backed up my own argument with supporting evidence? It's also on me to predict your rebuttal, read your mind, and find in your comment history where you said something that you claim is relevant? Something still couldn't be bothered to produce while calling me out for not doing it for you?

2) You seem to be under the impression that I had to wade through your comment history reading comments to find those quotes from you. You would be wrong, and perhaps not so careless if you knew how easy they were to find.

Obscure_Observer414d ago (Edited 414d ago )

@RauLeCreuset

"There's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation. You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business."

By Jim Ryan:

"Our Business Would Never Recover' If Microsoft Degraded Call of Duty on PlayStation"

*Never* Recover. There, his words, not mine. You asked by a quote, I´d provided. In case you don´t think there´s something very wrong about such statements, just keep it to yourself and save us both some useful time trying to convince me otherwise.

1) and 2)

I'll summarize it in a few worlds:

I don´t think that anything is or have to be "on you" about the points you made. You´re the one who searched through my comment history, posting selected quotes, asking me questions which I´d responded in a politely fashion.

Now, whether you believe in anything I said or not, is up to you. My comment history is public to anyone to see. If you don´t have further questions, it was nice to have this little conversation with you.

Happy gaming.

RauLeCreuset413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

@Obscure

"In case you don´t think there´s something very wrong about such statements, just keep it to yourself and save us both some useful time trying to convince me otherwise."

You said that because you know what's coming, just as surely as I knew what you would go scrambling for once I called you out. Don't worry, I would never be foolish enough to make convincing you otherwise the measure of the validity of an argument. That's not the goal. I'll be here forever. It's not in you. What I will do is expose why you're wrong. I don't care at all that you can't accept it. Don't comment if you don't want a response. Now that we're clear on that—

"By Jim Ryan:

"'Our Business Would Never Recover' If Microsoft Degraded Call of Duty on PlayStation'

1) You said (or tried to) that I asked for a quote. That's false. I didn't ask you for a quote. I pointed out that "there's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation," and that it's because "you know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business." Hold on to that last quote. We'll be coming back to it shortly.

2) That's actually by VGChartz. That's a headline that is part Jim Ryan quote and part VGChartz paraphrasing. You gave no indication of that, didn't correctly cite your source, and didn't include a link to the quote. If you want to do like I do, do it like I do it. I provided quotes from you, not someone else's summary of what you said, and I included links so we don't have to play these games about what was said in what context and rely on interpretation. Here's the VGChartz article you quoted. https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

3) Even the VGChartz headline you tried to pass off as by Jim Ryan presents his comments in the context of what he thinks would happen IF Microsoft DEGRADED Call of Duty on Playstation, not JR thinking "they´ll go bankrupt in case the ABK´s deal pass through," as you have repeatedly mischaracterized. They aren't saying it will happen, and it would be foolish to say that. Apply common sense. You think a publicly traded corporation is going to say they'll go bankrupt if a deal with a good chance of going through is approved? That's a good way to go bankrupt. They don't need to do or risk all that. They are arguing that MS has an incentive to make COD exclusive and that doing so would harm (not bankrupt) PS because those are the things the CMA are looking at for the console market.

4) "Our business would never recover" does not equal "we'll go bankrupt." Again, they don't need to convince the CMA that the deal will bankrupt them. They only have to convince the CMA that the deal "may be expected to
result in a substantial lessening of competition (SLC) in gaming consoles." ( https://assets.publishing.s...

5) Which brings us back to what I said before you replied. "You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business."

RauLeCreuset413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

"I don´t think that anything is or have to be 'on you' about the points you made. You´re the one who searched through my comment history, posting selected quotes, asking me questions which I´d responded in a politely fashion."

You said it's not on me, before strongly implying that I should have gone through your comment history for comments you think are relevant for a counterargument you hadn't made yet. SMH.

I told you I didn't have to wade through your comment history to find what I quoted. Do you think I read through or skimmed 75 days worth of comments to find that? I didn't read through a single page. It's a combination of going about it efficiently and remembering what you said because you made a whole production of posting the origin story for what is apparently your more than 20 year grudge against Sony.

That comment history, including comments elsewhere in this article, provides reason to question whether your OP is hiding behind feigned concern.

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shinoff2183414d ago

The news came out like a day later.

shinoff2183414d ago

Sparky ff7 remake says 14 million in sales wtf are you talking about 5 mill day one?

ironmonkey414d ago

It's a troll bro, he calls himself us Xbox fans. Kids being kids.

Chevalier414d ago

Wow get your FACTS straight.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

They sold over 5 million back in 2020 August. The game released in April that year. They did 5 million in 4 MONTHS! Because the game launched 2020 April! So you think it sold NOTHING in the 3 years since?! Lol. Shows how dumb you are.

Sorry there goes you're idiotic uninformed Rant. Estimates have FF7 Remake selling over 15 million during their first year

RauLeCreuset414d ago

Add to your argument that FF7R also released on PS+. Sparky will cape for Game Pass and make arguments that player count for an Xbox exclusive is more important than the sales of a PS exclusive but pretends to be concerned about how many sales a PS game that sold 5 million in 4 months before also getting paid twice to be on a sub got compared to the game before it.

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The original PS4 version released as part of the March 2021 PS+ monthly games in its first year. Like other monthly titles, it will remain available to anyone with an active PS+ subscription who claimed it while it was a monthly offering.

https://blog.playstation.co...

The enhanced PS5 version, Intergrade, was released for PS+ Extra and Premium last July and is still available.

https://blog.playstation.co...

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iivGHOST414d ago

Ive never played a ff game before but this one looked really good. Might have to be the first one i play

Gardenia414d ago

It's only a Final Fantasy game by name. The real Final Fantasy games died long ago unfortunately.

Stanjara414d ago

So finally I can play it.

wiegraf414d ago

The last FF game that was good was on the Playstation 1

Unknown_Gamer5794414d ago

You realize each game has always tried to differentiate itself from its predecessors, right? Sure, games in the NES/SNES era were a lot more similar to one another due to limitations, but even those games tried new things with each entry. Even when the job class system returned in FFV, the devs took steps to differentiate it from FFIII’s job class system.

When you get into the PS1 era and beyond, the games kept getting more and more different from one another. If you like the older games, all the power to you, but SE isn’t going to make a mainline FF in exactly the same vein as an 8 or 16-bit or even 32-bit turn-based JRPG nowadays.

shinoff2183414d ago

Your absolutely right gardenia.

Ff will never touch the sumpremness it had with 6 through 8.

Sure you can say it evolved Elda but I can say it devolved lol. Verdict still out for me I'm still on the fence about how I'll feel. I still gotta watch that sop video though.

I have been thinking of giving 12 another shot

franwex414d ago

People complain about stale franchises like Call Of Duty. But also complain about evolving.

Ninver414d ago

@wiegraf

Now you're just reaching. PS2 had ff10 and ff12. Both are incredible games.

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Hofstaderman414d ago

Start with this one and then play the others. Each Final Fantasy is a unique experience.

BrainSyphoned414d ago

So much for Christopher falling off his rocker and ripping into this state of play.

Hereandthere414d ago

Day 1 no question. Sony exclusives never disappoint. i enjoyed forspoken very much, despite the jealous hate it got from xbox fans.

babadivad414d ago

Yeah, it was jealous hate. Couldn't be because the game wasn't that good.

Elda414d ago

I enjoyed Forspoken as well. My only gripe is that the story campaign is too short. I'll be buying the story dlc that releases late next month.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS723h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg23h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni22h ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Einhander197219h ago(Edited 19h ago)

CS7

In the ideal world yes.

In the real world where companies have shown little desire to innovate and spent every effort to maximize profits the end result will be the same quality games (if were lucky) made by less people and more AI.

Company Real World: Fires 200 people and makes the same game cheaper using AI and the executives get record bonuses.

Edit:

Lets look at history, specifically auto manufacturing.

In the 70's and 80's the auto unions tried to oppose automation of jobs (robots) stating that they would take peoples jobs. And the people in charge who wanted to make more money said the exact same types of things that are being said about AI. But we can look at history and see that countless types of jobs were in fact replaced by automation, that was of course even compounded upon by computers.

The net effect was that the rich got richer less jobs were needed so wages were forced down by competition for the jobs that were left.

hombreacabado1h ago

that concept works in the initial beginning phase of AI but once AI learns and surpasses the knowledge and coding expertise of even the best human employee than this CEO will no longer need competent humans in that line of work.

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Number1TailzFan23h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

senorfartcushion21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

He doesn't, he's just lying. These people lay people off so they can get bonuses. If AI takes jobs, their bonus goes bigger and the workforce goes smaller.

porkChop19h ago

Because he sees AI as a tool to aid development. He wants to use AI to help make bigger and better games in the same timeframe. Other CEOs want to replace devs with AI to cut costs and make lifeless games faster for a quick buck. Strauss has the right idea, this is how AI should be used. To extend and expand the capabilities of devs.

neutralgamer199220m ago

There will be few companies who will go overboard and try to replace their employees with AI tech. The ones that will make the most money will be the ones that utilize ai, along with their employee talent, to make the best product possible

AI could handle some of the most time consuming processes. To expediate the development, so in return, costing the publisher's last money end time.

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jambola1d 1h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

DarXyde4h ago

I think you mean candor, not intelligence.

If you take him to mean what he's saying at face value, sure.

I don't. And I think he's clearly lying.

romulus2323h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody23h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot072d ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda2d ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

shinoff21831d 16h ago

Right. I definitely see what a headlined from a website named windows central was trying to do though. It's cute little wordplay to help out the green box

Flewid6381d 15h ago

Are PlayStation games no longer good or worth playing once they are old?

Elda1d 14h ago

I'm guessing my comment went over your head.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning772d ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv722d ago (Edited 2d ago )

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

...

Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv722d ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC2d ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno2d ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier2d ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

romulus231d 22h ago

Stockholm syndrome, maybe?

BlindMango1d 17h ago

The reason they would need to "partner with Microsoft" is simply to make a game that's part of a franchise that Microsoft owns. Meaning they're probably going to make a new Spyro game - they're still an independent studio, but are making a game in a franchise that Microsoft owns. It's kind of like Remedy partnering with Rockstar to be able to make the Max Payne remakes.

shinoff21831d 16h ago

It was probably the deal to get released from Ms

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Sciurus_vulgaris2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier2d ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn1d 22h ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

shinoff21831d 16h ago

I highly highly doubt this. Ms controls all. The guys aren't gonna be allowed to just shut something down like that without approval. No way

Elda2d ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Don't worry about my comments.

PhillyDonJawn1d 22h ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus231d 22h ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda1d 20h ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

Asplundh1d 19h ago

Crash 4 was good, so I'm hopeful.

PhillyDonJawn1d 18h ago

Hey you said that about SOT and looks like many ppl on PS is playing it. You also found bugsnax interesting ffs your opinion hold no weight lol.

Elda1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Bugsnax is BS, tried it & quickly deleted it. It's a game that fits right on Gamepass. PS5 owners that are probably playing the boring SOT you could count on one hand. LMAO!!...don't try to come for me.

PhillyDonJawn1d 15h ago

So you admit bugsnax interested you enough to try? 😂 someone gotta call you out on the foolishness.

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