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Analyst Says Microsoft/Nintendo CoD Deal Is a Win-Win, Comments on Game Pass and Switch Sales

Wccftech talked to MIDiA Research senior analyst Karol Severin to get his take on the Microsoft/Nintendo Call of Duty deal and other recent news concerning the two platform holders.

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Thundercat77466d ago

Of course is win win... for Microsoft. They take away a sales monster from its main competitor to put it on their subscription model which was made because of their low sales situation.

This is a big win for Microsoft and a big fail for the gaming industry. We will witness the fall of COD as we did with Xbox own franchise Halo.

Lifexline466d ago

Seems like you need some tissues. So more players get to play call of duty on Nintendo and pc owners have more options and it still gets to stay on PlayStation. Yet it’s being taken away the mentality of a little kid amazes me sometimes.

CPTN MITCHELL465d ago

Do you actually think a Nintendo system can run cod?

The3faces465d ago

I couldn't of said it any better! Since when are more options a bad thing?

EvertonFC465d ago

Who'd want to play CoD on a switch?

ThePacemaker465d ago

Excuse me, who would want to play COD on NSW? I reckon the resolution will be sub 720 with 15-20 FPS. COD on Switch is just a disaster.

Lifexline465d ago

At all of you above if people play call of duty mobile what makes you think people won’t play it on the switch?? It’s insanely popular on mobile I’ve tried and it’s actually really fun. Yes the switch can run it as well.

Gamer_Dude465d ago

Yeah, the my plastic is better than your plastic is so childish.

343_Guilty_Spark465d ago

@CPTN MITCHELL

Umm there are mobile versions that would run on Switch, the deal covers future Nintendo consoles, and it’s also possible to stream

FinalFantasyFanatic465d ago

@CPTN MITCHELL
They've shoved other games like Doom and Witcher Wild Hunt on their, even though they had to noticeably downgrade those games to get them to run acceptably.

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Petebloodyonion465d ago

@EvertonFC
Do you expect Nintendo to keep the Switch forever?
If this deal goes thru you won't see a COD on Nintendo before 2024 at best.

Gamer_Dude465d ago

Fall of Halo? I just played it yesterday.

LOGICWINS465d ago

I was playing yesterday as well. Enjoying the new community maps 👍

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Chevalier465d ago

"I couldn't of said it any better! Since when are more options a bad thing?"

More options of where to play would be pretty fantastic actually. Like I don't know like say Bethesda games maybe? Oh right those aren't available to Nintendo or Playstation games any more.

Thought Microsoft thought 150 million gamers would be a good idea? Then by that logic shouldn't like 270 million Switch/PS4/PS5 gamers also be a big deal? Especially if they're trying to suggest Sony is preventing so many gamers from gaming on Nintendo etc?! Kind hypocritical now right?

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BandarHub466d ago

This is a big win for gamers as they will have the option to choose where they want to play COD.
Whether it's Gamepass, Cloud on mobile, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation and PC.
COD will be even more accessible than ever and it doesn't change how you normally play COD.

The most notable on here is COD on the cloud. Without a doubt, the latency and quality will improve over time.
That means 3 Billion mobile gamers will have access to play COD on their phone.
Imagine a fraction of 3 billion subbing to gamepass to play COD on their phone. These are you non-console gamers and when they hear that console version COD is playable on game pass cloud service, they're going to sub straight away.
You can see how big this deal is for gamepass.
Let's say that incrementally over Years MS markets COD for mobile, as well as the cloud service, drastically improves over time.
They will start off slow but this is what it might be
1% of 3 Billion= 30 Million
5% of 3 Billion= 150 Million
10% of 3 Billion= 300 Million
If you add the growing gamepass members you can see that number piling up. Also when it lands on Nintendo console it will be adding those players as well.
After this deal and after they put COD and other Activision games on gamepass you can see that they will be making a killing off gamepass.

Lets range between 60 Million and 300 Million Subscribers in the long Run.
They could be making £7.2 Billion to £36 Billion a year fro Gamepass

With these growing numbers and how much the game pass, you can easily see that the Billions they are paying for Activion/Billzard is worth it.

darkrider465d ago

Lol. You live in another world if believe in any of those numbers. Billions of mobiles..

343_Guilty_Spark465d ago

Why does this bother you so much?

Orchard466d ago

Pretty much. It's only not a win-win if you're Sony. Mostly everyone else is fine with it at this point - and more gamers than ever will have access to COD.

Sonic1881465d ago

I agree with you 💯 but like I said months ago COD isn't the same how it use to be so this might be the beginning of a downfall for COD especially since Sony install base will be eliminated 😄

Orchard465d ago

"COD isn't the same how it use to be so this might be the beginning of a downfall"

In what way? None of the data backs that up.

MW2:
- Best selling game of 2022
- Fastest selling COD game ever
- Passed $1bn revenue in 10 days, $800m in the first 72 hours
- Most played game on PlayStation and Xbox

Everything shows it getting bigger, not smaller.

Sonic1881465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

I'm talking about after it's gone from Playstation. I don't see Sony signing a 10 year deal. I'll be interesting to see how COD does without Sony

Orchard465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

It'll be a huge disservice to PS gamers if they have the option to keep COD on PS and decide not to do so.

Realistically, those people will just jump to PC or Xbox/Switch if that happens. COD is a guaranteed buy every year for millions of people - so it won't be that big of a deal for COD sales. If anything, it'll hurt Sony more than COD, Sony makes a LOT of money from COD sales and microtransactions.

It would be kind of ironic if after months of shouting about how Microsoft is removing COD from PS, it is ultimately Sony who removes it from PS.

XiNatsuDragnel466d ago

It's a win-win for Microsoft not for others.

darkrider465d ago

Is it? . If Cod isn't on Sony machines they think the switch will cover that marketshare... Or mobile or cloud... So out of touch. The main target of the switch isnt Cod. Just look at the sales of the mature Bayonetta and then compare it the other hits of Nintendo last year like pokemon! .... It's night and day. Cod will gradually become irrelevant like halo is. Microsoft couldn't even make halo a hit after spending 500 or 600 millions in their flagship title....

VariantAEC465d ago

Call of Duty: Bubble Blitz will sell like hotcakes on Switch with Mario and Funko-Pop Master Chief and Cogs DLC!

Asplundh465d ago

That depends on how well it sells on Nintendo's system, might not be a win for Microsoft.

343_Guilty_Spark465d ago

How is the current business of doing things good for everyone?

darkrider465d ago

You can play the game where you want. Not where Microsoft wants. this Nintendo and Nvidia and cloud its just the strategy that Microsoft lawyers are using to get the deal approved....

343_Guilty_Spark465d ago

Not available on Shield, Amazon Luna, Smart TVs, or Nintendo consoles.

Microsoft wants the game everywhere.

Chevalier465d ago

"Microsoft wants the game everywhere"

No that's definitely a lie. If they wanted their games everywhere then explain why Bethesda's games are no longer going to be gracing Nintendo and Playstation systems?!

Kind of funny MS suggest this deal if it doesn't go through affects 150 million gamers yet they're perfectly fine ignoring 270 million games between the PS4/PS5/Switch.

CPTN MITCHELL465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

Ms is an embarrassment, they can't compete by making there own games, they been on 3rd place for the last 20+ years and even fronting about teraflops can't get them out of 3rd place and here they're trying to buy cod because they can't compete with playstation. Xbox sucks always has always will

autobotdan465d ago

The GameCube was in 3rd place while the original xbox stayed in 2nd place. Okay the Xbox 360 and Xbox One were both in 3rd place but...what Place was the Nintendo Wiiu in? That's the question! If the last two Xbox consoles were in 3rd place than what place was the WIIU in??? Answer that

Sonyslave3465d ago

you do realize sony brought Naughty Dog and Insomaic and Gurellia Games and Sucker Punch in fact just google sony acquisition and you see something you probably wouldnt like. The only studio sony built from the ground up is Santa Monica and PD studio everything else they brought.

DarkZane465d ago

@Sonyslave3 All those studios made 95% of their games exclusively on Playstation already. Nothing was taken from the competitor. Yet you're a Xbox fanboy, you can't see clearly, you think that is the same as Microsoft buying an entire publisher which main fanbase is Sony (it's where they make the most money by far).

All those developers you named made like 1-2 games at most that were on other consoles out of 10-20 games each. I dare you to name them without looking them up, I bet you can't, I know I can't except for Insomniac. They made Sunset Overdrive, which flopped badly and Fuse, which was a multiplatform game. It flopped so hard that I don't think anyone can remember what it was.

Chevalier465d ago

Cool remind us which Guerrilla, Suckerpunch, Naughty Dog games did Xbox gamers miss out on? Cause last I checked they weren't making anything for Xbox. Whereas Hellblade 2? Outerworlds 2? For example won't be on Nintendo or Playstation systems will they?

Plus if Microsoft/Xbox like they claim are so worried for the 150 million games they claim will miss out then why are they blocking 270 million gamers on PS4/PS5/Switch that won't be playing Bethesda games any more?!

onisama465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

sony lived on 3rd party exclusivity since PS1 and bought many studios and 3rd party exclusives along the way to get to the throne.....fans dont want to admit it but sony bought their way up but i still admit they know how to menage their studios which as an xbox player think is xbox division need to learn ...xbox need to adapt to gaming market ignoring MS policies of creating a MS owned engine to build games...making a team that audi quality around studios and keep them focused, get studios into pace...microsoft needs to improve to get the best out of there studios...i do beleive that phil was perfect in reviving xbox but i think his not the best for the next step...now xbox division need an aggressive CeO thats compititive and can control those studios with an iron hand

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS71h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg1h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni47m ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Number1TailzFan1h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

senorfartcushion10m ago(Edited 9m ago)

He doesn't, he's just lying. These people lay people off so they can get bonuses. If AI takes jobs, their bonus goes bigger and the workforce goes smaller.

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jambola4h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

romulus232h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody1h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot071d 10h ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda1d 4h ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

shinoff218319h ago

Right. I definitely see what a headlined from a website named windows central was trying to do though. It's cute little wordplay to help out the green box

Flewid63817h ago

Are PlayStation games no longer good or worth playing once they are old?

Elda17h ago

I'm guessing my comment went over your head.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 3h ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff21831d 22h ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan1d 8h ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin1d 6h ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_1d 5h ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan1d 2h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff21831d ago (Edited 1d ago )

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad14h ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay870113h ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

MrNinosan8h ago

@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.

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just_looken9h ago

I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.

Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.

Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.

-Foxtrot1d 22h ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink1d 14h ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff21831d ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla1d 7h ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5231d 7h ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin1d 6h ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-641d 5h ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga1d 3h ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay870117h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps1d 8h ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla1d 7h ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek1d 1h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff21831d ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb1d 8h ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip1d 5h ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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