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Xbox Reportedly Turned Down Marvel's Offer To Make Exclusive Games

Spider-Man could have been an Xbox exclusive, but apparently, Microsoft turned Marvel down when approached.

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darthv72742d ago

....the leadership [at the time] sure made some odd decisions.

RosweeSon741d ago

At the time? It’s still happening 🤣✌🏻

Charlieboy333741d ago

Phil was already leading though...

ALMGNOON741d ago

Phil Spencer was already in charge 🤡

darthv72741d ago (Edited 741d ago )

@all above, i see none of you get it. "At the time"... meaning since then Phil and the gang have been making better choices. But (again) at the time it was a huge missed opportunity. 8 years ago, they werent interested in licensed properties and were into micromanaging the teams they did have. Now they have more teams and a more hands off approach and are working with licensed properties (Indiana Jones for ex).

I shouldn't have to explain it... things change. Now do you get it?

ElvisHuxley741d ago

I've been away from this site for a while. So, you've finally given up the facade? Being honest now? lol

Godmars290741d ago

MS priority, ever since COD and Halo 2 anyway, has been online multiplayer. Subscriptions. That's not changing anytime soon.

RosweeSon741d ago (Edited 741d ago )

“Now they are more hands off” and have nothing to show for it, everything got delayed they’ve launched 2 consoles with barely as many top exclusives to go with it. They conned people into going next gen with these systems then made the very select few games they have released available on last gen systems so nobody needed to buy the new system
They should have delayed it a year but didn’t wanna be a year behind Sony because it would of course look better to have a console on the shelves nothing to sell with it but we got the console out, which they’ll upgrade or replace with series X2 by the time these licensed properties they are working with come to fruition. Indiana Jones is currently barely a logo and they’ve shown nothing since no doubt having problems like fable (I meant perfect dark but 🤷🏻‍♂️) like halo which is still unfinished I mean sure yeah fantastic management. They bought a company and released games for their rivals I mean you cant make this shiiii up 🤣🤣

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SullysCigar742d ago

That's one word for it. Now, though, with hindsight, another word for it might be 'doh'!

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kneon741d ago

It was probably for the best, it's doubtful that there is an XBox studio that would have been able to produce a Spiderman game of the same caliber as what Insomniac has done

-Foxtrot742d ago

Well…they had their chance

However with Sony having the film rights I don’t know why they wouldn’t have asked Sony first. You’d think they would have been the main choice.

Charlieboy333742d ago

The way I see it, their priority was making a great game to rival the Arkham games......doubt they were even thinking about making a movie based on that game. Plus at that time I doubt that Spider-Man was even decided on as the character.....Insomniac could have chosen Wolverine to start with for instance. So basically I don't think Sony's movie rights to Spider-man played any role in this.

Magic_Spatula741d ago

If I remember, Bryan Intihar said they had the choice to make a game using any Marvel IP and they chose Spider-Man.

purple101741d ago

Also Sony has had the licence for years and years everybody knows the PlayStation 3 font and logo on the console was printed using the Spider-Man text look it up it's an interesting fact, I think

gerbintosh741d ago

I believe they went to Microsoft first because they have deeper pockets than Sony

CobraKai741d ago

@Mark.
I remember that too. Insomniac chose Spider-Man, out of all the Marvel guys, due to his appeal and large fan base.

Sony owns the movie rights only. The video game rights are completely separate, which is why Spider-Man appears in other games on other platforms.

darthv72741d ago

I havent been paying attention to this deal but I hear the only other presence of SM in a 3rd party game is the avengers... and only for PS.

saint_seya741d ago

@darthv72 also in fornite.

P_Bomb741d ago

Spidey and pals are in the Lego games too.

Seraphim741d ago

@ darth....
I mean it's not like there's a ton of Marvel content out there in the video game industry, at least not in the past decade, when Disney/Marvel started taking a game by game approach to licenses. However Spiderman is in Ultimate Alliance 3 as well. A Nintendo exclusive.

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Unknown_Gamer5794741d ago

To my understanding, Marvel approached Insomniac to make a Marvel game featuring a hero of their choosing. It was then that they opted to make a Spider-Man game, because of how iconic he is. Sony does hold the film rights to Spider-Man but not all of Marvel. Still...I agree that they were an obvious choice given they have what is presumably a good working relationship with Marvel.

GamingSinceForever741d ago

Marvel had to have approached Sony 1st and Sony then contacted Insomniac. Had Marvel just gone straight to Insomniac I doubt that the game would have been a PlayStation exclusive.

Unknown_Gamer5794741d ago

@GamingSinceForever Sony owns Insomniac, you know. I'm pretty sure it would go without saying that anything they produce would at the very least be a PS console exclusive. I could see a PC release being part of the deal, even before Sony really started ramping up their PC ports, but not Xbox. Still...now that you mention it, I believe I do recall there being mention of Marvel approaching Sony, and Sony recommending Insomniac, so you might be correct about the sequence of events.

Mopes742d ago

If true, then I imagine there will be some disappointed Marvel fans... I myself don't really care for Marvel... Star Wars on the other hand...

EvertonFC742d ago

Most marvel fans are probably majority playstation so NO disappointed marvel fans?
Plus you're not much of a marvel fan if you didn't pickup a playstation to play a marvel game ?

babadivad741d ago

Star Wars died with The Force Awakens.

XiNatsuDragnel742d ago

Miss an opportunity in my opinion Microsoft.

Charlieboy333742d ago

Hopefully the assumption that Sony 'stole' Spider-man away from Xbox will come to an end now.

ShadowWolf712742d ago (Edited 742d ago )

It won't. There are still people who think they outright own the character and Marvel need their permission to even keep making comics with him in them, for crying out loud. Being accurate with claims is not the internet's strong suit.

Flawlessmic742d ago

Sony owns the movie rights to spider man, that is it. They have no control over marvel in regards to any other media entertainment, but i think people like to ignore that fact to suit there argument

RauLeCreuset742d ago

There may have still been some dealings involving the movie rights once that particular IP was settled on, but the bottom line is that it was Marvel who sought to make their IP exclusive, and Xbox passed on the opportunity.

ShadowWolf712741d ago (Edited 741d ago )

@RauLeCreuset There weren't. Insomniac got to pick an Ip to work with from a list. They chose Spider-Man after Marvel and Sony had already come to an agreement.

RosweeSon741d ago

Yep Microsoft literally could have had it for themselves. Instead chose to focus on all their IP’s like Banjo, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing, amped, midtown madness, perfect dark, fable. So uh where all these games at 🤨🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤣✌🏻

babadivad741d ago

Were people really saying this? This is the first time I've ever heard of this "rumor".

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS722h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg22h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni21h ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Einhander197218h ago(Edited 18h ago)

CS7

In the ideal world yes.

In the real world where companies have shown little desire to innovate and spent every effort to maximize profits the end result will be the same quality games (if were lucky) made by less people and more AI.

Company Real World: Fires 200 people and makes the same game cheaper using AI and the executives get record bonuses.

Edit:

Lets look at history, specifically auto manufacturing.

In the 70's and 80's the auto unions tried to oppose automation of jobs (robots) stating that they would take peoples jobs. And the people in charge who wanted to make more money said the exact same types of things that are being said about AI. But we can look at history and see that countless types of jobs were in fact replaced by automation, that was of course even compounded upon by computers.

The net effect was that the rich got richer less jobs were needed so wages were forced down by competition for the jobs that were left.

hombreacabado5m ago

that concept works in the initial beginning phase of AI but once AI learns and surpasses the knowledge and coding expertise of even the best human employee than this CEO will no longer need competent humans in that line of work.

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Number1TailzFan22h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

senorfartcushion20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

He doesn't, he's just lying. These people lay people off so they can get bonuses. If AI takes jobs, their bonus goes bigger and the workforce goes smaller.

porkChop18h ago

Because he sees AI as a tool to aid development. He wants to use AI to help make bigger and better games in the same timeframe. Other CEOs want to replace devs with AI to cut costs and make lifeless games faster for a quick buck. Strauss has the right idea, this is how AI should be used. To extend and expand the capabilities of devs.

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jambola1d ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

DarXyde3h ago

I think you mean candor, not intelligence.

If you take him to mean what he's saying at face value, sure.

I don't. And I think he's clearly lying.

romulus2322h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody22h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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FanimeCon 2024 | Persona / Shin Megami Tensei Cosplay Gathering

The Persona / Shin Megami Tensei cosplay gathering allowed fans of the acclaimed JRPG series to meet up during FanimeCon 2024.

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Can FSR 3 frame generation deliver the 120fps dream on PS5 and Xbox?

Frame generation technology has arrived on consoles, amplifying frame-rates and potentially transforming experiences.

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purple1012d ago

adds between 8.3-15.3 milliseconds of latency on the game they tested, - no thanks

darksky2d ago

Base latency is 130.8ms and frame gen takes that up to 139.1ms. A 7% increase in latency is hardly a deal breaker.

Zenzuu2d ago

That's hardly a deal breaker and not really noticeable. Even the folks at Digital Foundry said so as well.

darthv722d ago

Impressive results... sadly I don't have a 120hz display. I was thinking this technique could increase fps on any game that supports it regardless of the display.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I have a vrr telly in the lounge,

On another point, what if it were the other way around where the developer aims for higher fps, then used something like pssr to make the resolution higher, that might be better?

Any which way, PS5 pro sure looks interesting now, being they have already doubled frame rate, with JUST just this fsr3.0

sagapo2d ago

It’s up to dev’s to implement FSR 3 support tho but most probably will I guess (hope).

Eonjay1d 13h ago

Yes it would increase the framerate but it would add more noticeable latency. The impact of latency goes down the more natural frames produced. So a monitor that can push bast 60 will naturally allow the game to operate much smoother. Add VRR to this and now you have a much more enjoyable experience.

BlackDoomAx2d ago

Can it deliver the 60fps dream?

purple1011d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

no, it delivers approx 80fps.

which is why I say why not target 60fps with this new tech and use the upscaling pssr, (Sonys version of Nvidia's DLSS, that seems so popular in the pc realm)

then we have best of both, better believe ps5pro will be doing all the above.

andy852d ago

Now I've extensively tried it I'm not too fussed about 120 fps. Give me a locked 60 and more details and I'm more than happy

anast1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

120 is a bit slow. My eyes can't look at anything less than 260fps.

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