COD: Black Ops Cold War Makes Me Want To Play Every Shooter On The PS5

PS5's DualSense controller is a massive gamechanger for first-person shooters.

[lifeisgamesok]

Sony hit the lottery by focusing on other improvements too on top of the GPU and CPU upgrades

I've seen videos of people playing shooters with the Dualsense and they literally have to pause the game to say how great it is

PS5 is the best place to play

[SullysCigar]

It makes a massive difference. Like you can't understand unless you try it. Every gun feels different and you can feel the bullets leave the gun via feedback through the triggers, so the idea of shooting a weapon is heightened.

I hope they can implement this in a revised AIM controller for PSVR2, because that would just be incredible along with the 3D sound and being IN the game!

[throne]

wooohh......I'm trying to imagine that 😱

[Hellcat2020]

It's gets rather annoying after a while especially on Cold War

[swifty1]

Holy shit great explanation, shit I might get Cold War just to feel this! Ps5 should arrive Monday!!!

[Muzikguy]

The lack of information pertaining to VR has me slightly concerned. They have to be working on something for the PS5 don't they? Maybe they're just being tight lipped because of the competition (Oculus)

[bouzebbal]

Well I can see they didn't change the legendary name dualshock to Dualsense for no reason.. It's about sensing this time around.. Sony just changed dimension

[tontontam0]

"It's gets rather annoying after a while especially on Cold War"

oh there you go, the comment I'm expecting from a tired office worker who wants to shit on features other people enjoy.

this is the typical comment of people who wants to shit on "gimmick??, Vr games".

Tired Office worker: "after a long day of work........ blabla I just want to sit back...... and play a game with no gimmicks."

The good news is you can turn it off, actually you can even turn the sound off you can also get tired of that.

[SullysCigar]

^@Muzikguy, despite your disagrees, I kind of agree. I felt like that for a bit, but I think you're spot on and it's all about timing. They were very clear in the past that they felt it was too much to launch a next gen console and headset too close together and they won't want to distract people from the hype of the PS5 launch. I'd bet PSVR2 is closer than we think!

In the meantime, they're patching PSVR games to use the power of the PS5! Some just have dynamic resolution, which makes a HUGE difference (like, bigger than from OG PS4 to Pro for VR).

So far this includes games like Star Wars Squadrons, Blood & Truth, Astro Bot, Firewall, etc. They look far crisper, more detailed textures, load in less than half the time and all with minimum effort from the devs, so you have to assume they'll do the same for the rest of the top games (out and yet to come) to tide us over until PSVR2.

[Babadook7]

I hope there is an update for Apex Legends that has new adaptive trigger support. Then everyone can try the difference it makes to shooters for free. I love the Dual Sense for other PS5 games.

[Nurket]

I can understand the statement about it getting annoying in the long run. I dont expect todays Young gamers to understand this, come with some reviews in 6months time. Not every innovation is a all perfect good one. Not saying it is bad, just dont be so critical towards people that dont share the same exitement. If u like it, good for you. If u dont like it, thats ok to. For me it can disturb the aim focus and focus on all the small details u need to pay attention to when playing competetive shooter for example.

[Zeref]

Lol it's not that big of a deal.

Xbox has had impulse Triggers that achieve pretty much the same effect since 2013 😂

The only reason the media and fanboys are focusing on the controller is because they know they lost the power narrative and the exclusive narrative 🤷🏾‍♂️

[SyntheticForm]

Play Astrobot and tell me they're not a big deal.

When given attention, that feedback is pretty damn cool.

[Ghostbob]

It really is a big deal because the Xbox impulse triggers don't even come close to the dual sense and the power gap is so so ever small and ps5 is already beating Xbox in third party games as both consoles are custom rdna 2 but ps5 has a more custom feature set not standard like the Xbox as that needs to be the same as pc rdna2 & dx12 api.

[spdarksky]

This is actually a good thing that developers now take notice. Since 2013 XB Impulse Trigger has been put as a side note because the lack of this feature on PS4 in addition to lack of hype. People forgets that XB has this trigger rumble many years ago and developers also don't mind implementing it other than first party and a few 3rd party games like GTA5 and Watch Dogs. Just like PS5, XB should get the attention it deserves.

Now we see as this more and more becoming a standard, FINALLY Impulse Trigger can be implemented on all games and Cold War is a start. I don't really like (pull) haptic triggers as I just want my trigger to be easy to press, but I like trigger rumble (or kickback) as it adds to the feel of the game. Anyway it's just my preferences, others can have their own.

[StormSnooper]

Very different from xbox’s Rumble triggers. This is completely on a whole new level.

[jznrpg]

Pretty much the same ? lol 😂

[Mr_Luke]

No, just... no.
This just shows you have no idea about how a DualSense works or feels.
But why i even answer, it could be the best controller ever made that you would say it's not anyway, unless it's from MS...

[Deathdeliverer]

Zeref..... if everyone on the internet is saying it’s completely unlike anything else how can you STILL make an assumption like that with no hands on time. Obviously there must be more to it. I guess it’s like PSVR, no matter how much you try to explain it people cannot wrap their heads around it. Once they try it and their minds are blown you’re like welcome to a few years ago.

[The_Sage]

You have evidently done zero research, Zeref. The Dual
Sense is nothing like the Xbox controller. Look into what is actually going on with the DualSence so you don't continue to make yourself look stupid. Your ignorance is obvious to everyone.

[neutralgamer1992]

Zeref

Exclusive narrative really? Where are xbox exclusives? I hate fanboy comments but make sense simply acquiring new studios don't equal to quality exclusives

[lifeisgamesok]

The power narrative doesn't mean much when the games look the same

[Godmars290]

As if the Series X has anything that proves its power advantage.

[IamFrasierCrane]

Lol. You continue to be the most uninformed user on n4g.

[jjb1981]

You have no idea until you give Astrobot a chance. I was blown away by how you can FEEL the different terrain you're on. The ice skating is amazing. I was skeptical of the hype but I am a believer that the DualSense is a game changer.

[jukins]

Lol not even close. Not at all. The controller is really that revolutionary. It immerses you so much more. That and 3d audio are just really amazing. I can wait until the next iteration of and accompanied controllers

[SyntheticForm]

I meant Astros Playroom

[tontontam0]

"Xbox has had impulse Triggers that achieve pretty much the same effect since 2013"

lol the impulse triggers is the half assed "gimmick" version of this adaptive trigger.

Driving? Shooting? Hitting? you'd feel similar vibrations. It is as if they impulsively put this feature to add "innovation" to their controller.

[Sunny_D]

Bro what crack are you smoking? You talking about the system that launched with no exclusives? The system where the PS5 is performing better in all the multiplatform games? The controller that copied the share button from the PS4? That one? Hahah, rumble triggers are not the same. There’s also more games that have taken advantage of the dual sense than the Xbox rumble triggers controller in all 7 years lmao.

[thejigisup]

Impulse triggers are nothing like the haptic feedback in the dualsense. There is no other controller experience like this available anywhere. Even thinking impulse triggers can be in the same realm of the dualsense shows that you haven't played anything on the ps5. The controller is that amazing that everyone thats using it has to praise it. But wait theres more. The power narrative is just that, a narrative. I care more about the games and the experience than a difference of power. Theres enough evidence and proof that the ps5 out performs the series x in a number of games and even if it didn't its the start of a new generation and we haven't seen the full potential of either console so stop saying somome lost or won because once again its negligible this early on. And exclusives... inguess time will tell, the system haven't been out for more than a week yet and ill just boot up my pc for whatever ms studios game i want to play thats not on ps5 bc ill play my 3rd party games there simply bc the controller is great.

[Hamzilla77]

Try harder.... iv seen better troll jobs....
you clearly have not tried this Dual Sense stuff if you post that... lame-O

[Ozzy2407]

@Zeref (Xbox has had impulse Triggers that achieve pretty much the same effect since 2013)
You clearly have no idea on how the Dualsense works and feels

[northpaws]

@Zeref

Lost power narrative and exclusive narrative? PS5 won both and moving on to gameplay... stop being delusional, are you also one of the people that believe covid is fake?

[Ausbo]

Just got my hands on the Dualsense today, and it’s nothing like the impulse triggers. Nothing like it

[russo121]

In every thread a clown is needed. Great job.

[SmokinAces]

"pretty much", is just another way of saying not at all the same. The reason the media and Playstation gamers are praising the controller is becasue its amazing, the reason fanboys are downplaying it is becasue they think there's a power advantage that somehow diminishes it.

[cell989]

You have no idea, and you won’t know what you’re missing out till you try it

[secrettalkshowhost]

Dude the Xbox One impulse triggers just vibrate. The dualsense triggers change their tension; the amount of force required to pull them. Absolutely not the same effect, duuuuhhhh. Get with the program here guy, its not hard to read words.

[xxShadow-Shockxx]

😂 Literally no where near the same, this controller is revolutionary

[gravedigger]

Yep, and also gyro aiming with those triggers...awesome

[purple101]

Gyro aiming? Does dual sense have six axis feature as.well?

I'ma google this pronto. Does.dualsense have a gyroscope built into it - just chcked..

"Motion sensor. Bring intuitive motion control to supported games with the built-in accelerometer and gyroscope"

So that's:

touchpad.
Gyro
Triggers
Haptic
Mic
Speaker
Improved headphone jack
USB c .

[Muzikguy]

I really like what Sony is bringing to the table this gen. They didn't just focus on bc or raw power. With that being said too, they're not an underpowered console either. I can't wait to get a PS5. Looking like 2021

[Jin_Sakai]

The DualSense is a game changer. It makes PS5 the go to console for 3rd party games. Put a smile on my face first time playing Astro’s Playroom. Amazing controller!

[darthv72]

It feels good but i much prefer offset sticks. So for me... ps5 will be strictly for sony exclusives as I feel they will be the ones to really take advantage of the features.

Everything else I will play on series x due to offset sticks. It really is that simple.

[Atticus_finch]

Damn. What happened to your fingers, if you mind me asking. We should start a go fund me to have your fingers corrected. Every one should be able to have symmetrical fingers.

[purple101]

There's going to be so many good sony games shortly droping...you're not going to have any time to play the Xbox.

Good for people that can afford both consoles I suppose. I'm going to save up for ps5 personally

[crazyCoconuts]

I was laughing like a kid playing Astro, especially during the lunar lander part.

[Mrxboxman]

You guys are hilarious. If it's xbox, it's phantom advantages or gimmick. When ps5... GAME CHANGING.

[Destiny1080]

"when I fire an MP5, the DualSense vibrates to the fire rate's specific rhythm, and when you swap to a burst fire weapon, that rhythm changes"

"The triggers now have a resistance that changes based on the weapon. Pistols can be fired easily, while a single shot rifle requires more effort to fire. It makes every shot feel more impactful"

"I switched over to the PS4 version of the game, and it's so hard to go back"

[Hellcat2020]

It's ok in the campaign but I don't like it in multiplayer
I have to turn it off because I feel too slow on the trigger while playing online
When I turn it off it made a huge difference

But at the moment I will wait to continue playing my ps5 because it's froze on me twice today and I don't want to keep doing hard reset on my new console.
Hopefully a patch comes next week

[Chriswheeler22]

I havent tried them yet but id imagine for competitive multiplayer they won't be used much.

Can't wait to try them though.

[yeahokwhatever]

Can you feel the trigger break point? because that would actually be pretty awesome.

[Jin_Sakai]

“Can you feel the trigger break point? because that would actually be pretty awesome.“

Pretty much. It’s awesome! I disable it for competitive MP such as Cold War but it’s amazing for SP!

[yeahokwhatever]

Just got done playing. Holy crap. this controller changes everything.

[BQ32]

@hellcat, the disagrees are stupid on this. Yes the haptic innovations are probably amazing and give substantially more immersion to the games, but the problem with playing shooters on the dual sense is that it is not set up for competition. As a competitive gamer there is no way I would replace playing on something like the elite with back peddles so I never have to remove my thumbs from the sticks and trigger stops so I have to depress the triggers less for the gun to fully fire. It is way more important for me to be able to shoot my enemy faster and be more elusive than it is to feel the gun firing as cool as that does seem. Maybe Sony will eventually come out with there own pro controller that integrates all the new tech with these competitive advantages as well. Here is to hoping. I am amped to feel spiderman swinging around the city though.

[HICK]

Triggers being harder to pull for a rifle vs pistol makes no sense and shows that developers haven't even shot a gun before. I love DualSense and PS5 but this is not realistic. In fact, my precision rifle takes much less effort to fire than any of my pistols.

[AspiringProGenji]

You are wrong. Developers do try real guns to get the feel and the sounds too. Also it doesn’t need to be super realistic. Just any feedback that improves immersion would do.

[HICK]

Do you have a source that says they shoot guns and get sounds from them?

[yeahokwhatever]

imagining shooting from halfcocked, cocked, or double action and the controller actually changing the way the trigger feels sounds in-freaking-credible though. and yeah, precision rifles are usually lighter pulls than pistols for sure, in fact, that's where some of the precision comes from. :-)

[HICK]

@yeahokwhatever. Yes I agree 100% that it would be amazing with the different actions like you mentioned. And yes you are right about the trigger adding precision but you don't need me to tell you that obviously haha. I guess I just wish if they are going to implement an awesome feature like this that they do it right and have a rifle be a light pull ya know? Either way, it's awesome and I'm excited so many devs are taking advantage of this. I thought it was just a gimmick, right Xbox people? ;)

[yeahokwhatever]

@HICK
I actually just played and the sniper rifle has a lighter trigger and a noticeable breakpoint which is really nice. this controller is insane. if you keep your finger on the trigger with it at that point, you can actually improve you're reflex time.

[HICK]

@yeahokwhatever that's awesome! Can't wait to play COD with it. I guess when you go to ADS it is harder with heavier guns? MBG mentioned it during his podcast today. Maybe that's what some people meant buy heavier guns have a harder pull. Not to pull the trigger but to ADS. interesting

[mudakoshaka]

I am a bit disappointed that Valhalla does not take advantage of these functions. I would have hoped that all games for the PS5 would come with some level of haptic feedback and adaptive triggers, but it seems that developers must add these functions. This perhaps could mean that some big games do not take full use of this, but I hope I am wrong.

[Hellcat2020]

I love it while playing Sackboy
It's awesome
And for Demons Souls

[SullysCigar]

Microsoft have the marketing rights to Valhalla and there's no way they would want such a distinction to swing people that own both consoles towards choosing PS5 version.

I'd put money on a patch coming in the near future. Other devs have suggested it's very quick and easy (so presumably also cheap) to implement and all devs want you to enjoy their games to its fullest potential.

[mudakoshaka]

That sounds pretty reasonable actually. I do hope that a patch is coming, since this function seems so cool. And maybe that developers start supporting these functions early on if the PS5 does get a strong lead over XS1.

[StormSnooper]

True.

[JEECE]

After being skeptical about how much of a difference it could make, I have to admit that it is really cool. I do think a lot of people will turn the triggers off for multiplayer shooters though.

[StormSnooper]

Possibly, but doesn’t take away from how awesome they are

[JEECE]

Not at all. Perfect for immersion. Definitely the biggest unexpected difference.

[Babadook7]

Nvm

[AspiringProGenji]

I won’t turn it off after I get used to it. I could be wrong but We’ll see

[Babadook7]

“I do think a lot of people will turn the triggers off for multiplayer shooters...“

I suspect you are right. Some will turn it off because winning is more important than immersion. Having the choice is awesome though. And I suspect companies will reduce the strain of repetitive inputs for such competitive games, or better yet give you a slider that reduces it to your preference

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Xbox controller is boring compared to ps5 dualsense.

[Futureshark]

Don't worry Xbox fans, I'm sure MS will copy the haptics and produce a facsimile controller in the next year or two.
Probably call it the Pro X controller or something...
Next dashboard update to also include 'activities' or perhaps something called 'missions' instead.

[badz149]

Elite controller 3

[Atticus_finch]

For a low price of $180

[dcbronco]

You mean like trophies?

[C-H-E-F]

i literally said this last night, coming from PC, I do not want to play Mouse & Key with my shooters... I know that sounds crazy but this haptic feedback has changed my gaming experience completely.

[FlavorLav01]

Agreed! And every racing game. Just checked out Dirt5. Those controls feel absurdly good

[jznrpg]

Is it good ? I’m considering Dirt 5 instead of Godfall

[Hellcat2020]

Godfall isn't a game to get at full price
I got the ascended edition and I should have waited for a sale
Haven't played Dirt 5 but my guess is it can't be any worse than Godfall

[Games1st]

Those controls feel absurdly good. Godfall shouldn't be $70, It needs time to make new content.

[tochi]

I played Astro's Playroom with DS. Still, I can see some tangible benefits of the controller when you paly competitive multiplayer games.

The adaptive triggers and the haptic feedbacks on DS are good enough to tell some of 'Stats' of player and equipment without looking into icons and numbers on game screen. It will make a live-or-die difference when split second decision of movement come into your hands.
In fact, Astro's does not have any of stats nor icons on screen, yet I never had confused about how to make successful jumps in different environments.

One nasty curiosity I have is.... to imagine how XBOX fanboys would react when they find out those benefits of DS functions on a cross-platform competitive MP game. Would they boycott games because it is "anti-consumer" to give exclusive advantage on other than Microsoft? Or would they finally find out true meaning of the words ? Or would they just deny and downplay everything ?

[Inverno]

I'm interested in what they'll eventually do with the second generation of Move controllers. Most people didn't care for em but I'd love to see them back with all that the DS has now. Hope they make use of the new camera aside from PSVR and PSVR2. VR is also going to be interesting, wonder what they'll add to compliment the new features of the controller

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Still won't hold a candle next to a mouse/keyboard when it comes to FPS games. :D Other types of games then yes.

[dcbronco]

No it doesn't really. Desperate.

[mastaleep]

lol you're just butthurt that the controller is innovative and people are praising it.

[dcbronco]

Is it innovative? It's a variation on rumble. They didn't really create something new. The speaker on the controller is Nintendo. The overall shape is leaning more towards the xbox controller. It's like the big deal initially made over liquid metal. Like it hadn't been used as a cooling solution before.

[dcbronco]

Nope. Just recognizing a sheep herd. Once it's passed the hype will die.

SIX AXIS FTW!

Playing four generations over one console IS innovation.

BOY.

[TheTony316]

:(

[RazzerRedux]

It doesn't make him want to play every shooter on PS5? You a mind reader now?

[StormSnooper]

Your comment is what sounds desperate. Honestly. Got me thinking about irony.

[dcbronco]

Your comments sound like someone who drank a lot of koolaid or someone getting paid to push a product. I bet you've never disagreed with anything Sony has ever done. You guys hype everything Sony does and then forget it exists later. How's your six axis and uncompressed sound?

[StormSnooper]

Umm Again, the irony is killing me here.

[TheColbertinator]

Got a chance to check out Cold War with a friend with his Dualsense. Certainly the rumble was interesting especially when I was next to an artillery barrage

[Ausbo]

These features are great for campaigns, but for competitive play, they are definitely something you’d want to turn off.

[Atticus_finch]

It's okay bro your .30% kill ratio will be okay.

[chrisoadamson]

Anybody that is serious about playing fps games will turn off vibration and rumble. Competitively it is a disadvantage

[tontontam0]

Completely understandable, these hardcore fps gamers reduce graphics settings to the barest minimum to achieve really high frame rate, they'd set brightness to unrealistic level so that they can easily see what they need to shoot. everything else is irrelevant if they are given the option to turn off textures they would probably do that. the important point is that they need to easily see the target.

And they even use pro headsets to fake what you'd naturally hear, fake unrealistic amplified footstep.

Every next gen features other than 120hz support are useless for competitve play.

[Doomeduk]

Hang on.. can you point me to any article where it says that all these DS features are slowing down the response time of inputs
Comparing turning down graphics settings and using a better headset.. Is that all you've got to try and plant the seed of doubt about response times.. Really

[tontontam0]

"Comparing turning down graphics settings and using a better headset.. Is that all you've got to try and plant the seed of doubt about response times.. Really"

Dafaq are you talking about, I'm just saying that these hardcore gamers only cares about things that will help them shoot the target as soon as possible.

[purple101]

Did you know most pro gamers are sponsored by a headset company. But- get this..they only use the mic. .inside those massive earcuos, they use ear buds. Generally really good 300dollar earbuds.

When I found this out I was shocked!

[StormSnooper]

Although, I imagine with cross platform competitive this may be true. But if a game is exclusive, they may turn off the ability to turn it off to give everyone an equal playing field while everyone enjoys the extra immersion of the controllers. They could even make the controller serve a function that is necessary to winning. Example, capture the flag scenario where you must hold the trigger within a certain vibration level for a specific amount of time requiring focus in a chaotic situation, or sensing mines using the Haptic feedback, etc..

[Bathyj]

The triggers are great. Every gun feels different.
And the whup whup whup of the helicopter blades as you fly is brilliant. So much potential going forward.

[QuePasa87]

I'll try it eventually, but it's hard to wrap my head around the idea of preferring a gamepad for fps over keyboard/mouse