Fortnite Next-Gen Runs at 4K (1080p on Series S) and 60FPS; DualSense Support on PS5

Epic Games shared the details of the promised Fortnite next-gen update. The game will run at 4K@60 on PS5 and XSX, while Series S does 1080p at 60 frames per second.

[Jin_Sakai]

Series S shouldn’t exist.

[Imp0ssibl3]

Agreed there.

[bouzebbal]

Question, how is the game on x1x?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

You realize the main consoles are 4k right? So what exactly is wrong with the S here? Explain.

[Muzikguy]

@Angelic

Do current gen systems play the game at the same spec as the series S? If so, why is it needed?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@muzik So what's the point of either of these console version considering the game runs at 4k 60 on 1X? What's the point of the X Series and PS5 versions then?

[Necr0philiac]

You can tell these guys fear the S and its low price.

[Jin_Sakai]

Also loving the new PS5 features!

“Select Your Favorite Mode from the PS5 Home Screen — Fortnite supports PS5’s Activities, starting with the ability to go straight into the Battle Royale Lobby with either Solo, Duos, or Squads selected. Once in the Lobby, choose to queue up for your selected mode!”

[SullysCigar]

Just saw Yong Yea playing Astro and gushing about the DualSense lol

He actually does a really good job of explaining how each usage feels. He also descirbes how the haptics are layered on top one another "like when you have good speakers and can hear each instrument individually".

Lot's to look forward to next gen!

[crazyCoconuts]

I'm betting in a few years it won't

[TheProblem]

Big mistake from Microsoft. They thought it would fly off the shelves. Pre order uptake has been slow. They should have made more x’s

[Baza]

Cheap Xbox consoles for increasing install base and more Game Pass subscriptions for Microsoft!

[Popsicle]

Exactly. The Series S was created to provide a low price entry point for Gamepass. It is a Gamepass machine and nothing else.

[Darkborn]

People don't understand its only going to cripple all next gen games that are multiplat. Some studios I'm wiling to be will skip Xbox just to make a game on ps5 and not deal with a 4 Teraflop machine.

[SullysCigar]

I hadn't thought of that, wowsers...

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"People don't understand its only going to cripple all next gen games that are multiplat."

How exactly When the console does 1080p-1440p and the main consoles hit 4k? So now are we gonna dig up the old, dead useless resolution argument?

[Popsicle]

@AngelicIceDiamond the GPU is not the major concern because many of the actions provided by the GPU such as resolution should be scalable for the most part. The biggest issue I see between the Series S and the Series X/PS5 is the difference in ram. The difference in ram has a greater potential to hold back next gen when compared to the GPU.

[Darkborn]

@AngeliclceDiamond I didn't mention resolution. I meant about everything. AI won't be as smart, ram is a huge difference, less enemies will be allowed on the screen, the open world will be less populated. Tons of stuff will be sacrificed to make it available on a weaker console as well as resolution drops.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Dark and you know this how? Show a link.

Edit: better yet what would that have to do with the main consoles since they're stronger? What you said isn't accurate with the main consoles at all. Maybe for the S buy not the X or PS5.

[Darkborn]

@angelic look at last gen shadow of mordor example. They cut out features and had less nemesis randomization due to it being on last gen specs. There are tons of cases of this stuff. And yes, all games will have to be made compatible with the lowest common denominator first, and then upscaled. I'm not talking about resolution and fps, you can make games at 16k 500 fps if you wanted, but it would have bad visuals.

Edit* that's also why the pro can't do 4k right, but resogun did it at launch of the OG ps4.

[1Victor]

Can someone please tell moldybrain that he looked in on the angelicicediamon account.
By now everyone over 10 should know developers make games for the lowest system first and upscale to the higher end as it’s easier that way and if you don’t know that ask your elder(friends, family or game store employees) gamers they will tell you.

[SegaGamer]

You weren't going to buy any variation of Xbox console next gen anyway, so I don't see why you care that it exists.

Every time the Series S is mentioned, you get one of these stupid posts saying it shouldn't exist, but you never actually say why. Is it just because games won't run as well as they do on the Series X and PS5? If that is the case, the Switch, Wii U and Wii shouldn't have existed either, because they are much weaker than the other consoles they were up against.

We all know every game will run better on the Series X and PS5, but I don't see why a cheaper and less powerful machine can't exist for those on a budget, or aren't as interested in high end graphics, or still gaming on a 1080p tv, or parents who want to get their kids a new console for Christmas but see the Series X or PS5 as being a bit out of their price range.

Something tells me that you don't think the Series S shouldn't exist, it's more that you don't want it to exist for fanboy reasons.

[green]

Very well said. Why these people complaining just don't focus on the news in regards to their console of choice is beyond me. They would rather spend all their time complaining about the competition.

As for the news, great for X/S and PS5 owners being able to play the game with next gen updates at 60fps.

[Melankolis]

It does concern some people that it might hold back the quality of the games, whether it's true or not it remains to be seen, i can understand. It doesn't have to be 100% fanboyism.

Wii, Wii U, Switch have different approach of development than their competitors though.

[SegaGamer]

@Melankolis

If there are people that genuinely feel this way, then I am not seeing any evidence to back up their concerns.

Pretty much every game I have seen announced for the Series X and PS5 so far seems to be aiming for 4k 30/60fps, so I don't see where people are getting the idea that games will be held back by the Series S.

[green]

@melankolis: show me one game that is being held back? Show me the developers that are making games that have complained that the series S is a hinderence to them? If not them please all should quietly shut up.

From all I have seen, the only difference between X and S are resolution and a few graphical features. That's all.

Jeez..

[Luc20]

What's the point of getting an underperforming brand new console if the game plays better/similar minus maybe the loading times?

[SegaGamer]

@Luc20

Uh, read my post again, you will see the reasons there.
The Series S being almost half the price of a Series X and PS5 will be reason enough for some people.

[Mnms2188]

Is not about being a fanboy, we can only go as far as the s can take us . Microsoft made a really weak console for next gen.

[Darkborn]

I complain because it will hold all games back. Why don't they create games for ps3 as well as ps5 then if all that will change is "resolution?" you idiots.

[Popsicle]

For me it has nothing to do with being a fanboy. I have the Series X and PS5 both on preorder. I fear that the Series S's lack of of RAM and to a much lesser extent considerably weaker GPU will hold back game development for 3rd party games on both next gen consoles and Xbox's 1st party games. There is a reason the Wii, Wii U, and Switch have never had comparable 3rd party support when compared to Microsoft and Sony, and the reason is that the games do not scale down easily and are a real pain to program for when trying to maintain the same experience from platform to platform.

This doesn't mean that there is not a place for the weaker Nintendo consoles. There absolutely is as evidenced by the markets positive reception to their products. The primary difference is that they are appealing to a niche and are not competing directly with Sony and Microsoft. Since their console is not in direct competition, there is little chance that the lack of power will in any way hold back game development on Xbox and Playstation consoles. The same cannot be said for the Series S in this case.

[SegaGamer]

@Mnms2188

"we can only go as far as the s can take us"

I didn't see the Nintendo Switch stopping the current gen going forward, so why would the Series S do that? Current gen games on the Nintendo Switch were adjusted so they would run on it, the same will happen to games on the Series S. The fact that the Series S can run games at 1440p and 1080p 60fps means they have a lot of room to cut out certain graphical features on that system if they have to, which, at the same time, will have no effect on the quality of games on the Series X and PS5.

[ecchiless]

so 300 is the half of 400..... maths...

[1Victor]

You all want to see a game hindered by series S look at halo and tell me it isn’t and it’s not delayed to fix some of the hindrance of series S.
Now kindly STFU with the saying that series S isn’t hindering next gen games

[King_Noctis]

A comment that make sense get downvoted to hell and back. You’re right, people keep saying Xbox Series S “held back” next gen, but they themselves forget that alot of multiplatform games on PC have even lower hardware requirements than the Xbox Series S.

[King_Noctis]

@1Victor

Except that Halo Infinite will also be releasing on the original Xbox One and Xbox One S as well, both of which are much weak than Xbox Series S. Do some research first before commenting.

[SegaGamer]

@King_Noctis

N4G, the home for Sony fanboys. I don't usually like singling out one set of fanboys over the rest, because I see them all to be as bad as each other, but Sony fanboys have become worse than all of them at this point. Literally any news about Xbox, Nintendo or PC gaming has the same Sony fanboys jumping in and telling us how bad the competition is and how amazing Sony is.

It's even got to the point now where I see Sony fanboys flagging actual news as "Lame" because they don't like the news being posted. How are those people still allowed to have a say on what get's submitted as news? It just shows how badly moderated N4G is. Nobody outside of N4G has a good word to say about the site anymore, and it's 100% because of fanboys, especially Sony fanboys.

[Muzikguy]

Next gen system playing games at current gen specs. That's gotta be a first

[gravedigger]

Yeah, 3rd party devs won't support Dualsense features because it's a gimmick. LOL And here we ware, besides COD, Ride 4, Fifa, NBA, Dirt 5....

Also, no need to pay for online on PS4/PS5 to play Fortnite. It's really F2P

And favorite mode directly from the home screen on PS5. Oh man.... Quickly jump in the game

[Kyizen]

S has its place but it is not a next gen console

[King_Noctis]

It should exist to be an option for those who are unwilling or don’t have enough money to afford a true next gen console.

[Darkborn]

If you don't have money to afford next gen, then stay on current gen. Don't ruin all the next gen games with an inferior console dragging all games into the dirt. I expect that either all games will be down scaled, or a ton of games will skip Xbox.

[King_Noctis]

“ Don't ruin all the next gen games with an inferior console dragging all games into the dirt”

I’m sorry, but do older PC hardware drag newer PC games into the dirt? Why is it that alot of new multiplatform games on PC have even lower hardware requirements than the Xbox Series S?

[shadowT]

I like the DualSense support

[Sayai jin]

Yeah, me too.

[Father__Merrin]

Disappointed series S won't support 1440p I'm still looking forward for my delivery of the S

[aaronaton]

I can't believe there is someone out there that is going to purchase the Xbox Series S. They should capture you and run experiments.

[Workshyskiver]

If someone only has a 1080p TV, why wouldn't they? Its not for me personally but there are plenty of people out there that have no plans on buying a 4k tv that the extra power is for all intents and purposes, useless.

[crazyCoconuts]

They tried to, but discovered it to be a Russian bot that got distracted while trying to meddle with the US elections

[gamer7804]

tons of people have 1080p tvs or at a small enough size they dont' need 4k. why spend the extra money especially if on a tight budget. I don't know why people are so upset or even comment on the series s. makes total sense just targeting a different market. and honestly some of the new 4k tvs have awful stutter anyways so they might want to use their tv for movies and games and not just games.

[Father__Merrin]

Lol 😂

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I don't believe hes getting an S but its sounds like to me your are the one they need to run tests on since you're having a heart attack, a melt down, panic attack over someone else purchases. you have some damaged and twisted psychology. "Its called a preference", look it up its a real thing. Anyone who's buys an S in your warped mind should see a Doctor. Yeah someone needs to see a doctor alright. I have no plans of buying the S because I want the options to buy disc and download. But I'm not in complete and utter shocked like you are "I can't believe" Again its called preference. P-R-E-F-E-R-E-N-C-E

[Father__Merrin]

@angelicD

I certainly am

[Neonridr]

you realize people buy what benefits them. Does a PC gamer really need a 4K GPU if all they are going to play at is 1080p or 1440p? Why waste your money if you can't even benefit from it. I get that you are future proofing yourself a bit by purchasing a Series X, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to just do it from the get-go.

[deadfrag]

People that are buying the Séries S think they only going to get lower resolution but that's not true! Detail will be lower, effects will be lower quality ..... and so on so on its not just an issues with resolution!

[boing1]

I can understand people with 1080p TVs, if that would be just the case of resolution. That's what they said about Series S, right? Same games, just lower res? What about frame rates, though? PUBG runs in 30fps on Series S and 60fps on Series X. Is that OK?

[Binarycode]

LMFAO. XBOX is the experiment.

[chiefJohn117]

Not everyone has $500+ for a console or a 4k tv. Series S is something I would've gotten as teenager when my family was struggling.
It's funny cause I also said where the hell was cheap gaming like series S and Gamepass when I was young and broke lol

[King_Noctis]

What’s wrong with someone who wanna buy cheaper console?

[garos82]

seems like 3rd party is embracing the dual sense! im guessing/hoping the implementation is easy and hoping the tech doesnt go to waste

[jukins]

Yea im excited about developers actually using this. Hope it sticks throughout the gen. Seeing as its the controllers which "connects" you most to what you see on screen the immersion possibilities have me excited. And when psvr2 I hope they use an even more evolved solution for those controllers.

Got my controller yesterday. Just the overall feel is amazing even without actually using it.

Not relevant but funny to me. My kids saw all my accessories and said "you got all play no station" made me sad lol

[garos82]

can you use the dual sense on ps4 to play games? obviously without he haptic feedback stuff

[jukins]

No but oddly it works in ps3 supposedly. Not sure if there any feedback

[hectorius]

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[Magog]

They will use it. Everyone used vibration before. It's just a question of how well they implement it. I think a lot will simply because they enjoy the quality of it themselves.

[Tyrant 8 RDFL]

will it run at 1080p and 1440p at 120 fps on the series X and PS5?

[Destiny1080]

i can see why it only runs at 1080p with such a demanding game

[Mnms2188]

I honestly believe the series s crippled all of us . Now we are being pulled back by the weakest link. I get it they wanted to to make an entry level console, with next gen gen quality. But by doing that you made the series s the starting point for next gen and is extremely weak compare to is counterparts. so what if it can do ray tracing if is to weak to use it.

[Charal]

Everyone will see it now, and with any luck will discourage MS to go the same way in the futur.

Next gen console is significant power increase, anything else is delusional.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Then a year from now nobody will be talking about how the Series S is holding anything back. Next gen games will run smoothly and N4g for the 1 millionth time will be wrong. I remember fiercely how this sorta talk was going on with X1 "holding back" PS4. How that turn out?

Move on because a game like this is running the game on how it should on the platforms as advertised. Little Jimmy and Sarah fortnight players don't give af about fortnight resolution. Fortnite players in general don't care. So move along with this fake narrative and news.

[frostypants]

N4G is usually right...especially with Microsoft's weird blunders. Most on N4G called the demise of Kinect, the fact the "cloud powah" secret sauce of the One was mostly marketing BS (see: Crackdown 3), etc.

We aren't wrong this time either. The Series S is going to be this gen's industry punching bag.

[Charal]

Delusional.
Little Jimmy and Sarah don’t even need a serie S then, One S is enough following your example.

Serie S will hold back MS first party games big time, the same way PS4 and One S didn’t allowed to take full benefit of Pro and One X power.

[chiefJohn117]

Fortnite being 1080p on it crippled us? Lmao stop it

[Mnms2188]

Series S is Microsoft blue shell to next gen.

[lifeisgamesok]

Not when it comes to PS5 exclusives

[King_Noctis]

MS has 20+ first party studios. I don’t think you need to worry about their exclusive.

[CaptainHenry916]

Quality over Quantity and we know Sony exclusives has quality

[King_Noctis]

“ Quality over Quantity and we know Sony exclusives has quality”

This wasn’t the case when Sony had more exclusives and more first party studios than MS. Since the role is slowly starting to reverse, now suddenly quantity doesn’t matter?

[anast]

Fortnight can run on almost anything...how does this even matter?

[SmokinAces]

Well I imagine becasue as Fortnite is a competitive shooter and everyone says higher frame rates matter in those games the fact the game will be running at 60fps at a high resolution means it matters. Add to that the immersion the DualSense provides to a shooter as described in the article also matters. Its not about what it can run on, its about how its running and how it feels while playing it. So there's reasons it matters but it doesn't have to matter to you, its personal preference. Happy gaming.

[anast]

Wouldn't a PC still be the place for competitive shooters? I don't see why it would matter, in a competitive sense, on consoles.

[SmokinAces]

Sure but that wasn't really the conversation we were having and not everyone has or chooses to play Fortnite on PC I'd imagine, so having the bump in frames and resolution on console is a benefit and what matters in this particular instance.

[anast]

You chose to use competition. Therefore, you set the context of Fortnight as a competitive shooter. In competitve play it's PC. For consoles it doesn't matter.

[SmokinAces]

I understand whats best for competitive play, again that has nothing to do with your original question. I'm not sure why you are arguing or even feel the need to. You asked "how does this even matter", I simply suggested why it does, the improvements will help the competitive nature of the game on console, that's the reason for the article, the reason why it matters and the answer to your question. I have nothing more to add to this conversation. Happy gaming.

[SmokinAces]

4k @ 60 with dual sense support sounds like a winner to me. On a side note, so much for the belief that third party wouldn't take advantage of the DualSense functionality.

[Flexiblefish74]

The series s is great for kids if you at to give them for Christmas...

[MazeRunner]

a lot of people dont care about 4k and ray tracing. that series s next year is gonna be a seller, $199.99 take it to the bank

[frostypants]

Why is the Series S a thing?! Just why?

[StarLink]

So much fake outrage because the Series S is 1080p@60fps when in fact the game has more than just that. So many L's will be spread and crow will be eaten but that seems to be a trend this next gen for the PS camp.

[blacktiger]

Fortnite and still Series S still cant handle it? whateve happen to 1440p and 120fps.?

[gamer7804]

up to... its like the ps5 and xsx can do 8k, but are they going to for games, no. and if resolution and detail matters that much to you, you'll be getting the xbox series x anyways.

[chiefJohn117]

Nice to see they're supporting DS cause a lot of dev don't put the effort in to support new features. But I'm telling you when you start missing shots and notice your controller dying quick, you gonna turn it off lol. I think controller rumble in general and the rumble triggers was neat than I started missing in highly competitive games got mad and blamed the controller viberation lmao. I don't recommend it for shooters, maybe for everything else but not shooters, it's a distraction for me

[StoneyYoshi]

I don't think this is going to feel the same as the XBO controllers you seem to be talking about. I agree the rumble triggers are annoying in shooters but the Dualsense is going to feel different compared to that setup. It might not be as annoying since it can have more accurate vibrations that aren't as violent as a weighted rumble motor.

[chiefJohn117]

If it's just a tingle than yeah it will be fine(even then it might be a mental distraction) but if I'm shooting an smg and the controller buzzing around it can make you inaccurate. It all depends on the level of viberation DS will have. The rumble trigger weren't that heavy on viberation but I just felt it was making me shots.