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PS5 DualSense Controller Will Have Updatable Software

The PS5 DualSense controller will have updatabale firmware according to Sony.

caddytrek1383d ago

That's pretty cool, it seems like it's going to be quite an advanced controller. Maybe they will add updates to the Haptics and things.

excaliburps1383d ago

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why PS5 games won't work with DualShock 4 as well? Mind, I know the DualSense has stuff that the DualShock 4 can't do, but this could (could!) be part of it. That said, I'm not that fussed about the PS5 needing its own controller to play its games.

RosweeSon1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

Exactly it’s a new controller might look the same (button layouts etc) but underneath there’s much more going on hence it wasn’t dual shock 5 if people really love their DS4 that much stick with PS4. If your buying a PS5 each console comes with one 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 my mates wanna come round and play tho. Well buy a spare controller like you’ve done every other gen or get them to bring theirs. They don’t own one yet tho 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦 🏻‍♂️😑😂 ✌ 🏻😜 that’s life. Not Sony’s fault. It’s easy to make everything BC when your not progressing. 🤓✌🏻

People are just seeing the same button layouts and going ah but it’s the same pad.. it’s not. It’s about as big a change as when they first introduced rumble or pressure sensitive buttons they doing the triggers now and pimping the rumble so I presume for example you could potentially detect which wheel has gone off the track based on which part of the part is rumbling top left bottom right etc. Can’t wait myself.

zeuanimals1383d ago

I think the R1 and L1 buttons are analog now. They apparently have some give to them and don't just click in. If the face buttons and D-Pad all follow suit, that could have huge implications for games on the system.

--Onilink--1383d ago

The only reason they wont work is commercial, lets not kid ourselves. Not that I blame them either, but no reason to be naive about it. At the end of the day the DualSense features just enhance the experience but it not like a game wont be actually playable if you had to use a ps4 controller

InUrFoxHole1383d ago

Damn! You can't use the dual shock 4 with a ps5? Thats lame

bouzebbal1383d ago

Hopefully we don't hear about bricked controllers 🤔

wwinterj1382d ago

I don't understand why some folk expect PS5 games to work with a DualShock 4 given they both use different controllers.

bouzebbal1382d ago

Simply because ps3 works with ps2 controllers, and DS5 and DS4 have same features.. A bit like gamepad for player one ane others holding a wiimote..

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1382d ago

Well the Dual Sense is a "digital controller."

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Sophisticated_Chap1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

The Xbox One controller has had updatable firmware since it launched in 2013, so nothing new here. You can even remap the buttons on the Xbox One controller in the system settings menu.

caddytrek1383d ago

Yea know the PS4 also had firmware updates like the change to the light settings and you can also remap the buttons. But nice try.

InUrFoxHole1383d ago

caddytrek
You're missing the point of his/her comment.

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caddytrek1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

InUrFoxHole

Please explain to me what I am missing.

March 20, 2014
Future DualShock 4 update for PlayStation 4 will add option to dim light bar (updated!)
https://www.engadget.com/20...

SullysCigar1383d ago

Who claimed it's new? The information that DualSense is updatable is new, nobody's claiming DualShock4 didn't do this too, for example.

Gunstar751383d ago

Apparently idiots on here disagree with things that are absolutely true.

MagUk1382d ago (Edited 1382d ago )

@ Caddytrek what there saying is the Xbox one controller has stand a lone updates for the controller. You can check what version your pad is running ect..

Also you can update the Xbox one controller to the same latency advances as the new series x controller.

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gamer78041383d ago

honestly now that I think about it , I never updated my controller on my ds4 like I have on my xbox one or elite controllers, I just assumed both had it. I remember them updating the haptics slightly on the xbox one controller,. then adding a feature that lets 2 people use one controller , stuff like that.

caddytrek1383d ago

The xbox one controller doesn't have haptic feedback nor does the SX controller.. And the PS4 originally only had one light setting and the other settings were added later.

It doesn't surprise me that you two are trying to spread misinformation.

gamer78041383d ago

@caddytrek. It absolutely has haptic feedback in the triggers, where have you been? The DUalsense just has a different implementation ofnit

caddytrek1382d ago

No, your 100% wrong, xbox has rumble it's not the same as Haptic which allows them to simulate specific sensations versus rumble which only has intensity settings.

The same with the triggers xbox has rumble triggers PS4 has force feedback like a steering wheel. So it can simulate the difference between pulling on something soft vs hard, like a puzzle game which has four different strings and you have to select the loose one by feel. Or the common example pulling on a bow string and getting feedback and you pull it farther.

Saijahn1382d ago

Haptics are simply stronger rumbles. No software will change what’s physically coming in the controller.

thejigisup1382d ago

Smart phones have haptic feedback, there isn't a spinning weight inside of your smart phone is there?

Saijahn1382d ago

The Xbox one controller has had haptic feedback since 2013. It’s even more noticeable in the elite controllers. People always speaking on stuff when they clearly haven’t used it. Haptic is just the hot word for rumble variation. Say haptic and slap on another $50 to the price tag

The_Sage1382d ago

Do some research, Saijahn. They've openly talked about what haptic feedback is. It has nothing at all to do with rumble.

darthv721382d ago

@both above, yes it's true. you may not agree with the implementation that MS calls "Haptic feedback" but it is what they call it. So stop trying to say it doesnt exist in the xbo controller.

https://www.precisionmicrod...

3-4-51382d ago

Nintendo Switch joy cons had this too....I think XB1 & PS4 controllers did too.

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Vits1383d ago

Why wouldn't it though? Like updating the firmware of controller is rarely necessary, unless there something broken or they are adding support for a new device/feature. But it's not something rare or impressive. Most modern controllers are capable of that. Including really cheap chinese mobile ones.

Christopher1383d ago

Firmware updates means improvements to the features. I don't see the issue. I mean, if you don't want to update your controller, go right ahead? But more options should be praised.

The_Hooligan1382d ago

It will make the DS more stable with the stability updates lol...I'm sorry I had to do it.

Profchaos1383d ago

I guess developers are able to reply custom profiles for games via a firmware.

sprinterboy1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

Yeah alittle like the headset companion app with audio custom settings from devs on different games?

VideoChums1383d ago

Xbox One controllers have firmware updates. It's cool that PS5 controllers will, too.

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Sayai jin1383d ago

Yup, their controllers have had upgradable software since almost the begininng of the current gen.

Tacoboto1383d ago

Nintendo's firmware updates are pretty frequent on the joycons and pro controller. And they've got a stick calibration tool too.

SullysCigar1383d ago

PS4s controller is updatable too, so what? Lol you guys are very defensive about this. Nobody's saying it's not been done before!

This is just new information about the new DualSense controller. What will you say next, "omg it has buttons, Atari already did that!!"?

VideoChums1382d ago

Are you sure? I can't find any info about the DualShock 4 having firmware updates.

darthv721382d ago

I dont think there have been any fw updates specific to the DS4. There was a system fw update that allowed the intensity of the lightbar to be adjusted but that was done through the console. Sending a signal to the controller to change the color of the lightbar or brightness is done via the console. The controller would have its own software that would need to either be plugged in to the console to update (as i dont think they enabled update over bluetooth)

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Duke191383d ago

Isnt this... pretty common for most peripherals?

Christopher1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

No past DualShock has had it.

Nitrowolf21383d ago

this is the first time Sony doing it
A number of things can come out of this
could be simple improvements
or maybe they have profile and tweaking
who knows

zeuanimals1383d ago

Custom touchpad gestures for macros, custom gyro settings, etc. specific to one controller would be amazing.

ziggurcat1383d ago

First time DS controllers have had FW updates.

franwex1383d ago

My xbox controller has updated a couple of times. Don’t remember my PS4 doing it though. They don’t take long.

1Victor1383d ago

Even PS3 had firmware update it’s just that Sony didn’t promoted it it they just told you to keep your controller connected to the system while updating remember that dragon game that the motion controller made it almost impossible to play and everyone was up in arms about it
Pepperidge farm remember

blackblades1383d ago

Yeah my shield remote and controller get updates. Some updates were to reduce inputs lag or something I don't pay attention to the updates or even update them some times.

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Ruegrong1383d ago

Software or firmware update? Software would imply that it may be customizable

crazyCoconuts1383d ago

Firmware is just software, and is typically stored in non volitile memory. Anyway, no reason you couldn't customize if that's a feature they wanted to provide. That software would probably be on the console though I would think

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PS5 beta adds DualSense controller sound enhancements and Share Screen interactions

Beta starts today for invited participants in select countries.

As the new year kicks into high gear with an amazing slate of PS5 game releases like The Last of Us Part II Remastered, Tekken 8 and Helldivers 2, along with FINAL FANTASY VII Rebirth later this month,SIE are pleased to roll out another PS5 system software beta today with a number of quality-of-life enhancements and new features.

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Iceball2000102d ago

Those are some neat features.

CRASHBASHUK102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

there also a new turn off/ rest mode screen

jznrpg102d ago

Looking forward to these nice little upgrades

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This leaked DualSense V2 looks to solve PS5 players’ biggest pet peeve

Listing for the DualSense V2 spotted over on Best Buy. Featuring improved battery life over its predecessor, the DualSense V2 could become a must-have PS5 accessory for those looking to stay wireless while gaming.

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Einhander1972128d ago

I have the Cobalt Blue controller and it lasts twice as long as my launch white controller did out of the box already.

Profchaos127d ago

Yeah I got the black controller and it's been way better than my launch ones also. I had to return my launch one cause of stick drift and the replacement had the springs snap in the L2 trigger then that replacement got drift again then I finally tried the black controller it's been flawless so happy with it

dumahim126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

My original didn't last a year before stick drift took over. (edit: actually, don't think it made it 6 months since I first experienced the drift in AC which I started playing around January after the PS5 launch). I bought the black one as soon as it came out. Now it doesn't last a day's worth of gaming.

FPSRUSSIA128d ago

never had a problem with the battery life or stick drift good to know that they improved it.

isarai128d ago

This is the 1st controller I've had stick issues with unfortunately, took it apart and cleaned it even though it already looked clean, but the drift came back after couple days. Kinda bummed about it honestly cause I take good care of my stuff

EvertonFC127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Same fella, never had a problem with previous gens but this one I'm on my 3rd already and I take very good care of my controllers and tech in general.
I've put it down to GT7 and rocket league 😂🤣

Profchaos127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Same I'm on my 4th since launch 2 with drift and 1 with the springs snap off if the trigger all warranty replacements but it's still annoying.

This is the only generation I've had an issue since the duelshock on PlayStation 1,2,34 PSP vita in fact all of those are still going strong and I've not even had drift with the switch joycon which was apparently common.

I definitely feel the launch whit controller was a lesser build quality perhaps rushed to meet launch date while the coloured revisions are better quality they have thicker trigger springs at minimum.
When I called it out in here that I was a bit disappointed I had three break I was called a liar

CrimsonWing69126d ago

Same here, even my replacement controller for the one with stick drift got stick drift. Third times the charm though, haven’t had issues yet.

I’m also extremely OCD careful with my stuff. Making sure dust doesn’t get in the hardware, keeping things clean, not being rough on the controller. I’ve just never had the stick drift issue until these PS5 controllers.

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EvertonFC127d ago

After 6 hours of gaming I'm normally walking the dog, or making something to eat or take a break and listen to a podcast while battery charging.
Had a couple of drifts though

frostypants126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

The early gen controllers almost universally go wonky. all three of mine did (two white, one black). Every controller made since they released the galaxy series of colors has revised internals. The SKUs changed accordingly. The fact that they are actually calling this new one "V2" makes me think it's a pretty big overhaul because they've already quietly made changes to these.

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GoodGuy09128d ago

I was thinking all it really needs is a battery upgrade and there ya have it. Hall effect sensors would be great too but this is a good upgrade.

darthv72128d ago

i didn't think battery life was much of an issue. Stick drift though....

blackblades127d ago

Me either and I think it wont solve the issue cause some people will still B* about it or something

CobraKai127d ago

I got the drift on my launch controllers. I dont play games long enough in one session for the battery to be an issue. I usually charge my controllers once every 3 days.

Profchaos127d ago

Same it's not amazing but I've never one been stuck unable to play. Drift is a far bigger problem

Abnor_Mal127d ago

I have no problem with battery life, but what I would have liked on this new version would be back buttons/paddles.

BlackDoomAx126d ago

They have the Edge for that. Or you could go the cheap way and install an extremerate, it's easy and nice.

Abnor_Mal126d ago

The Edge is not worth the price if all I want is the back buttons, all the other bells and whistles the Edge can do I’m not interested in.

The PS4 back buttons were a very inexpensive solution that could have been added to the DS

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Sony Appears to be Working on a New Version of the DualSense

Sony seems to be working on a new version of the DualSense that would improve on the PS5 controller with some extremely helpful features.

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Jin_Sakai168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

Pretty awesome. Hopefully they add a bigger battery to boot.

“The button hints would also be spelled out on the controller's touchpad, which would actually double as a display. This is not the first patent indicating that the DualSense 2 might feature a touchscreen instead of a touchpad, as another such IP filing emerged online back in September. As for the concept at hand, the controller that it describes wouldn't just be capable of lighting up its buttons, including its shoulder triggers, but also both of its analog sticks.“

_SilverHawk_168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

Sony needs to make a controller that can work on ps1,ps2,ps3,ps4 and ps5.

Mr_cheese168d ago

Surely you understand that that isn't feasible or warranted

Profchaos168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

Sony won't but there's manufacturers out there that do make that. Brooks is the one I have and can use my DS3,4 and duelsense on my PS1 and PS2 almong with Xbox controller and switch pro etc.

Note it feels better than a original controller however you still have the same controller functionality so most shooters play better with R2 as shoot but during the PS2 R1 was the standard as we didn't have triggers yet so the games feel sometimes unnatural to play

They have adapter's for most systems even modern ones want to use an Xbox controller on switch. For some reason they probably have something for that.

SonyStyled167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

You can use a DualShock 4 or Dualsense on a PS3. You can use a PS1 and 2 controller on a PS3 with an adapter.

What you are asking for is a wired Dualsense, or a wireless receiver for a Dualsense to play on PS1 and PS2. Everything else is already compatible out of the box.

MrNinosan167d ago

Why would they do or need that? 🤔

_SilverHawk_167d ago

some people take their fanboy allegiance to a degree that logical ideas are hated. i play on all consoles dating back decades ago which is evident by my profile wallpaper and not just the one or two consoles some people can only afford. i like playing older games or retro games on original hardware but id prefer to have more ergonomic and durable controllers with modern internals that can play different generations of gaming consoles. i prefer not to fiddle with adapters to use uncomfortable controllers when playing retro games and would like it if sony had one controller akin to the dualsense that can play all generations of sony gaming consoles. there are a lot of uncomfortable controllers from the past made by nintendo so it would be nice if nintendo had something like the wavebird that can play all nes consoles or microsoft with a duke/360 controller to play all xbox systems. it probably will never happen because i can see a lot of people crying about the controllers not being cheap because im quite sure those controllers would definitely be more expensive

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-Foxtrot168d ago

Cool

Hopefully any upgrades and the like are kept for the PS6. If we start wasting things on mid gen consoles then the next gen isn’t as “wow” worthy compared to holding out and seeing a massive difference from something released 8 years ago or something.

purple101168d ago

Totally agree
Good point.

Would make it much better to have these things for nex-gen, with games that tie in on release

Sony have many weird patients, they are sony after all.

I remember one, with sweat sensor and the obvious heart rate monitor of course.

-Foxtrot168d ago

Yeah it’s just I feel like if we didn’t have the PS4 and the like we’d have been a little bit more blown away with what the PS5 / Xbox Series X could have done at launch

VenomUK168d ago

The touchscreen may or may not be useless.
If it is just repeating info on screen it may end up being ignored like the colours on the DualShock 4.
However if it can provide actual useful information, guidance for play that complements what is on screen, eg showing how to perform a move, or accessing inventory, without having to go to the menu, then it might work.

However, Sony must get it running with multiple games so they know if it actually provides a benefit beyond the cool sounding concept.

RNTody168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

I agree with you Fox except about the PS4, as it was one of the best generations for PlayStation so I'm absolutely glad it exists. Perhaps the PS4 Pro could have been skipped, but I was glad to play God of War at 60fps ;)

Stanjara168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

It wasn't 60. It was all over the place... around 45-50. I couldn't do it and played at fidelity 30.

badz149167d ago

I just want them to introduce the back button attachment like they did with the DS4. I love that thing and would definitely buy them for my controllers without having to buy the Edge.

HICK167d ago

Look into the mods you can do. I just did one and it was easy. RISE4 eXtreme Rate is what I did but you can do one with just 2 buttons.

PCgamer98167d ago

Back buttons should have already been the standard for default controllers. I can't believe we're still using the same controller layout from decades ago.

victorMaje167d ago

Agreed. If the revisions sell it may become a yearly thing which I’m not sure how to feel about.
Dualsense blew me away. If there are revisions the wow factor may get lost.

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Vits168d ago

Honestly, I would dig a screen on a controller. I always liked the Dreamcast implementation of the VMUS, which could be simulated by something like this. The buttons lighting up could be cool for some accessibility-specific scenarios. Still, for general usage, I can't think of any potential uses that can't be achieved by ordinary buttons.

That said. If they are going to make a new controller, I would love them to invest in more repairability. Modular sticks, easier access to the battery, etc.

__y2jb167d ago

The vmu was a good idea, very badly implemented and went totally unsupported.

gold_drake167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

no no no, a screen on a controller is a bad idea. really really bad idea.

1. battery life lol
2. the amount of times my controller fell down somewhere because i either didnt see it is or it just slipped.pffmof something is alot.

Vits167d ago

1. Just put a decent battery on the controller. If Flydigi manage to do it with their Apex 3, Sony can with their devices as well.
2. That is a "you issue", stop having lettuce hands. /s

darthv72167d ago

They could just enable 2nd screen support for the portal.

Vits167d ago

Honestly, I find it bizarre that is not a thing at the moment.

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