Open World Tech Demo Running On Navi-Based Hardware Shows What The PlayStation 5 Will Be Capable Of

An online report suggests that a PlayStation 5 tech demo that is being shown is way ahead of current gen consoles in terms of scope and environment dynamics

[Jin_Sakai]

Sound amazing. Can’t wait for PS5!

“The demo that was presented to me boasted the best real-time graphics I’ve ever seen. It looked like it was a real game, not the usual demo with graphics pumped in Unity or Unreal Engine 4 as you usually see in events. like the GDC. It is not possible in any way to see something similar on the current generation of consoles or on PC. “

“In terms of lighting, glance and dynamics of the settings are not even remotely comparable to what was seen in Red Dead Redemption 2 or The Last of Us 2. Think of the impact that Killzone had: Shadowfall, it is something completely different than what was seen in the previous generation. “

[ThinkThink]

So excited, wish it was already E3.

[bouzebbal]

To me all this is detail.. I would drool over shadows when the game manages to entertain me at the first place.. Fun factor is what I look for..
Nothing new we are learning here either.. It's ajar defines next gen

[sprinterboy]

You mean the February 12th event 🤔

[NarutoFox]

You mean PSX event

[Unspoken]

It's a tech demo. Slow that hype train down.

Killzone has to be the worst example; where a trailer was shown off as game play then turned out to be a glorified CGI movie.

[Nick_515]

@Unspoken. I actually think the game looked better than that cgi trailer that was shown anyway. the trailer looked funky and less realistic than what the game looked like.

[Mroc13]

@bouzebbal. I agree. Don't know why all the down votes. We have reached such a high standard in graphics that there's no wow factor anymore. New ways to play and good stories are what interest me most

[No Way]

Nick_515 - Yea, ok.

[cyber_daemonx]

Bet if this was the new xbone the downplayers above would be drooling lol.

[rainslacker]

In my work, I've seen what's possible with the new systems, and I think people so far have really underestimated what to expect from next gen graphics. Raytracing, even with minimal implementation has a huge effect on quality, and there is a lot more built into these processors which helps make everything look like high end cgi without the expensive overhead. Lots of tricks, which the average person isnt going to notice the difference of different techniques.

[MarkyMark89]

Hit the head on the nail, most people don't even see the difference with RTX on or off until they get a bunch of playtime in. I was still on the fence, but now after lots of playtime on Metro and Tomb Raider I can see the potential. I can even immediately spot the fake lighting when I turn the feature off on RTX titles now. Hopefully when people get to actually enjoy RT I hope the 4k hype dies down. 1080p Ultra RTX on> 4k-30fps

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Ps5 hype

[blackblades]

1 more year, lol feel sorry for the people that gonna wait it out for the slim or pro version. That wait gonna be tough for them.

[Ceaser9857361]

There is a good chance Sony may release PS5 base and premium model together. 499 & 599. So gamers have the option to choose and need not rebuy like current gen.

[PurpHerbison]

And I'm happy that early adopters exist to basically beta test the hardware for those that want to wait on a new refined model. Need time for the library to build too.

[Xaywhat]

@ceasar I heard that rumor

[Ceaser9857361]

Ya that rumor could be true and if its true i would opt for the Premium model

[sushimama]

So excited. But I'm sure Microsoft's next gen console will be at around the same kind of quality also. So this should really excite ALL fans. It definitely gave me goosebumps reading it.

[Rimeskeem]

It will have the same type of power maybe, but Sony has a firm hold on first parties.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"thanks to the PS5 AMD Zen 2 CPU it is also possible to create more credible worlds in terms of physics and environmental interaction."

Full interaction in open world games confirmed.

[sushimama]

Lol, that would be so good. We don't need 'bigger' we just need open worlds to be more condensed, in regards to the physics and interaction in the world.

[isarai]

I REALLY REEEEAAAAALLY hope that returns as a focus next gen. So frustrated to see thing like physics, destruction, and overall environmental interactions take a back seat this gen after seeing the many physics demos at the reveal.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I agree. No point in thousands of miles of open world space and we can't interact with it, break glass, blow things up, walk into a building, get lost in a crowd of people, climb a tree, etc.

More interaction. Not more space.

[MarkyMark89]

You can thank the people obsessed with 4k, guess they enjoy looking at textures on a brick wall -_-
So many more levels to 1080p, games haven't even scratched the surface. 4k Textures just take up to much overhead in the overall scheme of things, people always want too much.

Of course the technologically uninclined will hype up the next-gen consoles thinking 4k with 100+FPS will be the norm and will cry and bitch when it doesn't happen next year and claim the jump wasn't enough. LMFAO

[rainslacker]

The two best physics examples at or near launch were Resogun and infamous second son. Resogun in the way it created its models involved a complex algorithm for what happens to them upon destruction, and infamous with all its particle effects, because particle effects are all physics.

Interactive physics involving game play I cant think of any example which wouldn't be able to be executed last gen. I'm sure they're out there though. Whether this is due to complacency from the dev, or the CPU I couldn't say. The CPU is underpowered, but the gpu with gpu compute should have been able to make up the difference. I think more devs focused on making prettier graphics than advancing physics models.

This will hinder better physics models at the start of next gen, as these things tend to build off what came before

[MecheSlays]

Fax. you need to be able to access more buildings, we need more small animals running around, we need fog in the air, plants swaying in the wind with non static patterns, and most importantly more interactive and smarter npc's to go against and physics and animations that break the last gen curse.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Absolutely agree. We've had size in open world games but ultimately doesn't mean much in the long term. GTA 5 back in 2013 was the biggest open world game but not the densest. You look back now and its laughable. Skyrim was noted for its dynamic NPC's and day and night cycles. Look back now NPC's are just on recycled movements like clockwork. Impressive for its time but looking back at it now its not really impressive because they weren't truly dynamic. With PS5's beefy CPU everything will be interactive and the NPC's will react realistically to you and the environment. True dynamism and real time ever changing situations, not just clock work movements and lines.

[isarai]

Cant wait till next gen is revealed.

[AlcruzO]

wtf, whole site is plagiarised / translated from here - everyeye it/notizie/ps5-grafica-urlo-se condo-chi-assistito-presentazio ne-tech-demo-405317.html&pr ev=search

[sushimama]

Sorry, yeah I fixed that. But the site you put, said that their 'source' was from WCCFTECH... so I changed it to them.

Thanks for the heads-up

[AlcruzO]

playcrazygame com/2019/10/14/ps5-stunning-gr aphics-according-to-who-attend e d-the-presentation-of-a-tech-d e mo/ plagiarizing content from here everyeye it/notizie/ps5-grafica-urlo-se condo-chi-assistito-presentazi o ne-tech-demo-405317.html

and you changed the url here completely? the whole site has translated content from the other site.

[sushimama]

NO. I recognised the site you posted. I looked at the site YOU mentioned ok, at the bottom of that article of YOURS it said that their 'source' for their article was from WCCFTECH........ so..... I changed the submission to the original 'source' that the article url YOU POSTED said was where they got their infomation from, ergo WCCFTECH posted it BEFORE the website you mentioned. SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM of that article you posted in your original comment.... their source is WCCFTECH

Originally, I acknowledged your original post and changed things accordingly and I basically said thanks for your help in figuring things out.

[Livingthedream]

I was hoping for a video lol

[Silly gameAr]

I'm looking forward to some new franchises and returning favorites that are bigger and better. If the power goes toward making the games bigger, better, and more fun, then I'm all for it.

[sprinterboy]

Can't wait for nxt gen, imagine the goosebumps when we all see a the guerilla games logo come on the screen 🤯🍺

[sampsonon]

"To be clear, in terms of scope, lighting and environment dynamics, RDR2 or TLOU2 aren't even in the same time zone as this."

RDR2 I can understand them comparing. but how the hell can they compare this to a game that won't be released for 4 months? ND hasn't even put the finale coat of paint on the game.

[xVOLTx]

This thing is outdated before it releases. PC will always prevail.

[AshleeEmerson]

Oh

[mogwaii]

This is said with EVERY coming generation, I have my expectations in check until holiday 2020.
One thing we really bloody need is 60fps as standard and reading his comment of25 - 30 fps made my heart sink BUT I realise it is an early version of a game which is also a release window game so theres hope yet but if it turn out we are still stuck in 30fps territory next gen it just wont be worth be worth it to me anymore.

[akaFullMetal]

Unless Sony or Microsoft set a rule they cant go below 60fps in games then it's not going to happen. People dont see frame rates when they look at a game they see graphics and because of that, a lot of developers will pick graphics over fps as it helps with sales.

[Traecy]

Agreed. I love playing AAA games with great graphics along with high resolution & I'm fine with 30 fps.

[mogwaii]

That is true to a degree but both companies have made clear mention of 60fps and 120fps so there's that and once someone experiences the difference from 30fps to 60fps they notice the difference, it's hard going back, we have been stuck at 30fps for too long.
If you could have your favourite games at 30fps or 60fps which would you pick?

[HighPlayer28]

I totally agree. 30fps games should be totally a thing of the past next gen. Sony and Microsoft has to set a mandate of 60fps limit or above to move the entire industry foward next gen.

[fatbastard11]

They’re going for 30 FPS again? That’s very very bad

[mike32UK]

"they're" ... who are you referring to exactly? How developers want to use the power of a console is entirely down to their discretion.

[fatbastard11]

So you’re sticking up for 30 FPS? People that are ok with it are making the industry static.

[AshleeEmerson]

@fatbastard11

If anything is making this industry static, it wouldn't be how many frames per second a game is.

Not every game needs 60 frames, don't get me wrong if you could maintain its graphical Fidelity and still put 60 frames per second that would be nice but it doesn't make the game worse because of less frames.

If I'm wrong correct me but Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Uncharted 4, Resident Evil 7, Sekiro and many other games are 30 fps and they are incredible...

I have an LG TV that has trumotion on it and for me, every game feels like 60 frames per second. I just was playing Horizon the other day and Grand Theft Auto over at my friend's house and when I got home to play it, the difference is huge.

Maybe get a trumotion TV and see how you feel about that until true 60 frames per second becomes the standard.

I really don't care what they choose to do as far as frames per second, as long as the games are awesome. My major thing with next-generation is VR. These games are becoming too similar so I'm hoping with the extra power they do really do put out something innovative for flat gaming

[rainslacker]

Its up to the developer to decide. If you cant play 30fps games, then dont play the game. Ideally, the choice between frame rate and graphics should always be given to the player. I'd personally pick graphics, because I dont get all that bent out of shape about a game not being 60fps. If enough people dont buy lower frame rate games, or statistics show that people choose frame rate over graphics more when given the choice(which statistics show significantly more choose graphics) then the general development community will adapt.

[mike32UK]

Definitely not sticking up for it, nor am I slating it. My point is, anyone that's expecting every single game to be 60fps next gen will be sorely disappointed.

Some developers don't think it's that important, and to be fair I'd say the majority of gamers dont either.

[sushimama]

We'll see. I really believe that the big games will offer the player the 'option' to choose 60 FPS

[HighPlayer28]

I agree these consoles next gen should have options to play 60fps on all games. 30fps is not the future imo.

[Kumakai]

Can’t wait!

[SugarSoSweet]

"Now granted, Framerate was maybe 25 to 30-ish and it was early, early,early. But I actually said out loud WTF when I first saw it."

See I keep telling people if you want truly breathtaking next gen visuals it's best to go for 30 fps especially for story driven games like God of War and The Last Of Us. Just leave 60fps for stuff like Fighting Games, Racing Games and Shooters.

[I_am_Batman]

I was on the same side of the argument when we had major issues with the iq (sub HD resolutions, aliasing, low res textures), but now framerate lags behind in a big way. People always pose the argument as if you'd have to choose between visual fidelity and performance, not realising that better performance is also part of visual fidelity, especially on lower framerates (sub 60).

All the detail in the world isn't gonna make a difference, if you barely see any of it while moving the camera around. I want my games to look as good as possible while playing, not only on screenshots. The resolution of the frame is high enough, It's time to improve motion resolution.

Next gen consoles will have more than enough power to push for higher framerates while improving every other aspect of rendering. With that being said, there is no such thing as unlimited power so compromises will have to be made still. I just think that framerate is one of the last places that should be compromised going foreward.

Of course that doesn't mean that 60fps should be mandatory either. With HDMI 2.1 TVs getting pushed out, the 30 vs 60 paradigm might finally start to break down. Variable refresh rates might be an option for some next gen game-devs that don't want to sacrifice half of their render-time for higher performance. Games that depend on a constant input lag, like fighting games will obviously still prefer a stable 60 (or 120) fps.

[MarkyMark89]

Or as a company/dev you just don't aim for 4k. RT doesn't need 4k, 1080P ultra with RT on is plenty enough for the eyes. I hope more devs take advantage of RT and put it in every game, wether its AMD's RT or Nvidias RTX feature set.

[gangsta_red]

"ResetEra revealed that he has recently seen a tech demo of a multiplatform open-world game that is in development for PlayStation 5, Xbox Scarlett and PC."

Not that all interested in yet another open world game.

"This demo, which is not all that polished, runs at a solid performance and it's way ahead of games like Red Dead Redemption 2 and The Last of Us Part 2 in terms of scope, lighting and environment dynamics."

Environment Dynamics...🤔

All good and all but I kind of expect better graphics, what I want are more attention to enemy and NPC interaction and AI.

Also a lot more variety and creativity in giving the player more to do in these world's.

[PersonMan]

It was death stranding gameplay on PS4

[AK91]

Awesome

[The_Sage]

I was really hoping for a video.

[Redlife2g]

I still remember that killzone demo for ps3

[Bluemaster77]

I cant wait until they start actually showing next-gen games.

[FanboysKiller]

Another 20ish fps game that favors visuals over motion fluidity, still doubling down on more fps as the best choice for next generation games.

[LemyAtom]

30fps will be standard going forward. While 60fps would be cool, graphics will always be the option devs go for as graphics sell games.

[King9]

I can wait to see what Sony studios that make open world games do with ps5 hardware. think about how spider man 2 and horizon 2 and days gone 2 would look on ps5.

[shauzy]

fake and gay

[HighPlayer28]

Next gen PS5 and Scarlett will be amazing. I just hope devs will set a 60fps or above limit on all next gen games so that standard can become a trend in the industry.

[GameStallion]

Everything sounded great except the 25-30ish framerate He mentioned. I think it’s very desired & well known that anything less than solid 60FPS for all games as a standard next gen will be disappointing.

[slavish0]

Every gen we hear this

[steven_seagull]

"Oh by the way...... That TLOU2 E3 gameplay reveal ? Yeah.... That was running on PS5 tech BOOM"

[Sirk7x]

I'm sure next gen is going to look great, but you're never going to see a game on par with a tech demo graphically. Remember the Wii U tech demos?
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