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Microsoft is playing a very patient game with the future of Xbox

The era of subscription-based cloud gaming is nearly upon us and Microsoft has the best blueprint for the future. Microsoft will let players use their own Xbox as a cloud gaming device for free using Microsoft's streaming technology Project xCloud.

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yarbie10001798d ago

Very very patient...so patient that they've basically taken off the last 5 years when it comes to new AAA exclusives

lxeasy1798d ago

I'd rather they be patient and release amazing games than they be hurry their devs and release mediocre games.

Silly gameAr1798d ago

Since when has that been Mircosoft's MO? What amazing games have MS devs released so far that you were patiently waiting for?

TK-661798d ago (Edited 1798d ago )

@Silly gameAR

MCC, Gears 4, Forza: Horizon 4 and maybe Ori if you want to count it. MS have a lot of work to do to improve but don't pretend they've made nothing good this gen.

xX-oldboy-Xx1797d ago

Ixeasy - The patience with Crackdown 3 shone brilliantly - keep up the good work ms. They don't care about any of that, subs is all they want. THAT'S IT.

Razmiran1797d ago

Ori was not made under MS
They bought thr studio later

WelkinCole1797d ago

Oh like Crackdown and Sea of Thieves?

rdgneoz31797d ago

@Tl Ori was from an indie studio when it was first released and MCC is xbox/360 games with updated graphics... So you've basically got another gears and another forza this gen. Even Crackdown 3 multiplayer is dead with all the toting of the cloud power...

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yomfweeee1797d ago

Ya, how'd that work out for Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2?

Sophisticated_Chap1797d ago (Edited 1797d ago )

If your a fan of Halo, Gears, Forza Horizon and Forza Motorsport, then you're liking what Microsoft has been putting out this generation. Not every gamer is interested in every single PlayStation exclusive game. I personally don't care about the vast majority of PS exclusive games, simply because they are not the kinds of games I like to play.

Some of the games that made me a fan of Sony's, was Resistance, Socom, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Killzone, Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, The Last of Us and M.A.G.. Half of these game franchises have been abandoned, Killzone and Infamous were tech demos, and so the only high quality entries from this list of exclusives to release this generation are God of War and Uncharted, with TLoU2 still waiting for a release date. The only other exclusive that has me interested is Death Stranding, but beyond that, every other game I'm interested in is also on Xbox One.

And no, I'm not interested in Spider-Man. The whole Marvel Universe thing has been played out for a while now. Would I play it? sure, but I'm not interested in it necessarily. The same goes for Bloodborne. Beyond all of these titles, there's not much else there IMO. What I will say for Microsoft, is that they offer online multi-player experiences with their big three franchises, that Sony has never managed to achieve. They don't have a massively successful online FPS shooter, or onlineTPS, and they are severely behind on driving games where Microsoft has the most popular driving games this generation, particularly with Forza Horizon.

But then you get into the hardware side of things, where Xbox has much higher quality hardware, particularly the Xbox One controller, and a console that can actually do real 4K, not this fake checkerboard rendering in a supposed 4K console that doesn't even play 4k discs, and people were very vocal about their discs at the beginning of this generation.

Microsoft also has a more expansive set of network features by far, and has the more stable online infrastructure by far. Don't get me wrong, Sony is still making a good product, but they have sucked people in with their marketing this generation, in a way that I have rarely seen in my life. I would almost call it brainwashing, because the brand loyalty is so off the charts.

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TK-661798d ago

Really? I thought the issue was that a lot of their games released too soon. MCC and State of Decay 2 being great examples of games that launched badly but are great games today.

Hedstrom1797d ago

Lol, that was a good one XD

thatguyhayat1797d ago

That made me chuckle cause you're not wrong

Hyperstrada1797d ago

that is not what I took from reading the article

Unspoken1797d ago

Hey look, another troll! Read the article then post your unrelated bs.

BTW Forza 4 says hi. Yes please keep adding modifiers to your comment and keep moving those goal posts.

rainslacker1797d ago (Edited 1797d ago )

MS future is apparently what Sony offers now for free I guess. No PSNow required to do what Sony allowed in a limited fashion on PS3, and allowed across the board on PS4.

MS is so patient, they let Sony come up with the idea, then found a way to put it behind the xCloud paywall. I suppose we can give MS credit for it though, they had remote desktop as far back as Windows 95.

Other than that, MS hasn't really laid out their pricing structure, just a bunch of marketing about how well it's going to work. I'm not sure how that equates to the best blueprint, unless the best blueprint means that they are the one's spending the most money marketing a service which they haven't released yet, and their closest competition already released years ago.

Seriously, to those writing these kinds of articles, these MS praise articles for their streaming future are getting really tiresome. I don't care about PSNow or xCloud, or Stadia, but give credit where it's due if you're going to write an article about this stuff. At least know what's out there when writing an article like this, because otherwise, it makes you sound ignorant.

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PhoenixUp1798d ago

“Wait till E3” has become a pathetically sad catchphrase for the “patient” Xbox loyal fanbase

Thundercat771797d ago

Is called the endless pathetically loop.

Tross1797d ago (Edited 1797d ago )

Yeah, if anyone is patient it's Xbox's fanbase. They have to put up with a lack of exclusives and anxiously await any dribble of content that comes their way. On top of that they have to put up with all this subscription BS. I don't think air quotes are necessary here as they're clearly some of the most patient people there are. The company behind their beloved Xbox brand on the other hand...

rainslacker1797d ago

I must admit. I do find it odd all these Xbox fans were all over Sony in the first year because of their apparent lack of games. MS has fewer game releases in the last two years, than Sony had in their first two, and certainly much less of the high profile AAA games, yet MS is doing great, or will do great.

It does seem like a double standard to be so willing to give MS so much time, because apparently these things don't happen overnight, but when it comes to Sony, they still can't deliver enough 6 years into the gen, or for some reason, their high profile AAA games aren't good enough in comparison to SoT, CD3, or SoD2. But somehow, FH3 trumps every and all games Sony has ever released, and despite not selling anywhere near what the Sony games have been selling the past few years, is the prime reason it's worth owning a X1....coupled with you can get dirt cheap games from Game Pass.

It's like the Xbox fan boys live in a completely different world from the Sony fan boys, because their criteria seem vastly different on what makes a console good. It's almost at the point where I sometimes wonder why there is even a console war between the two anymore.

ApocalypseShadow1798d ago (Edited 1798d ago )

A one sided leaning article that uplifts Microsoft while downplaying Apple and Google offerings to make their case. Mentions Sony in reference to console competition while not even mentioning that Sony has been doing streaming services and allowing remote play away from the parent console for years and is the leader at it so far.

I see Apple cornering their own user base on Apple products. I don't see Microsoft cutting into that. Google will have their followers as they have with Android Gaming and cheap games to play. It's Microsoft that has to cut into those business as that is the consumers they are trying to reach. That 2 billion consumers are already using Apple or Google/Android products.

They'll get some consumers to buy in. But core gamers like myself will never buy a game you don't own on disc or can download to physical hardware. That's ridiculous to me to buy a game that's on a server for full price. Should be you pay a monthly fee to access all content like Netflix if that's what they are trying to be like.

Only thing Microsoft has is its own player base and the possibility of getting them to play beyond the console. Which negates a reason to own a console or even make one. The only reason they are making one is because core gamers would be pissed off at them for chasing casuals like Microsoft did with Kinect. But that's the consumers they are chasing at again. While Sony announced they are sticking with core gamers and will double down on them.

WelkinCole1797d ago

People forget that apart from xboxlive. There is not much else of an ecosystem that MS fully controls like Apple and Google to some degree with android.

Nin has cut out their own market like Apple and Sony has most of the core console gaming market. That leaves MS with not much

Unspoken1797d ago

Only Google and certainly not Apple have shown a robust cloud presence, with Sony even buying in to Azure services. There is no doubt Microsoft is in a very good position to leverage their own infrastructure and take off in this new market. And if gaming is the topic, and you have a choice of three brands, Apple, Google, and MS Xbox, we know who has the greatest mind share in gaming.

And again here is why Microsoft is going to lead, xCloud + Game Pass. It will be the best package tailored for all gamer types. Download or stream, to your Xbox Console or PC and likely more devices in the future. Unfortunately hardcore gamers will be slowing Sony down from making any advancement into the future.

rainslacker1797d ago

I think MS can manage to get some of the PC gamer playing base. But they will have to go a little harder on promoting their store to do so. They've really kept their Windows store marketing pretty low key, and one may not even know it exists if they didn't keep up on things. It's kind of contrary to some of their other efforts to make a digital store....such as the failed Metro crap. Even GFWL was installed fairly prominently on new OEM hardware installs, although not consumer level installs outside of being in the Metro "start menu" crap.

But, as of now, MS really doesn't have the PC gamers ear. No matter how much Xbox gamers want to clamor on about how MS is winning their hearts, it's just not the case. PC gamers aren't locked into any one place, and I think the recent stuff with EGS shows that Steam has a pretty strong foothold on the PC market. MS can certainly make headway, but I don't know how well they're going to do other than their own games released on the system, and the more casual people who may just happen across the windows store at any given time.

MS isn't failing in the Windows Store as far as I know. But I wouldn't say it's a primary storefront for most of the gamers on PC, who I'd say most would say consider PC gamers, not windows gamers. The platform on PC is incidental to them, and they have never fought to boost MS up, nor are they acting like MS catering to them again as some sort of return of a mesiah. All the praise lays squarely on the Xbox fan boys. MS knows this, PC gamers know this, the observant gamer elsewhere can see this. It's just the way it is. So, MS will have to be patiant, because capturing hundreds of millions of PC gamers is going to take time, and attrition isn't necessary, and Steam isn't really screwing up big time.

FGHFGHFGH1795d ago

MS failed with uwp, which would've forced devs to only be able to sell and update through windows store. PC gamers and apparently pc devs wanted no part of it. Since they also gave up on smartphones, uwp in useless. PC gamers know about windows store, they just don't use it. It didn't help that they blocked windows 7 users from using it (it probably wouldn't have mattered) and games like call of duty couldn't even be played with other pc gamers lol

rainslacker1795d ago

UWP wasn't really part of their smart phone initiive. They failed on that long before they came out with UWP. They were using .NET for their Windows Phone OS. Windows Phone OS was actually quite nice, but they went and started requiring quad core processors so many people who adopted early were left with phones that only had half the functions, and no companies were bothering to write their programs in .NET, even though .NET could be used on Droid and iDevices. Was kind of funny that devs were more willing to write two seperate programs instead of adopt one that would work across three different ones, and was actually easier to use, and allowed for release on PC as well.

Anyhow, UWP is useless for games on PC. It was just an extra layer, and mostly just make the program locked to a single storefront. There was no reason to write games with it, as it offered no advantage to the dev whatsoever. Windows store doesn't require one use UWP though. I do agree they didn't do it any favors by blocking it from Windows 7, although that was more a DirectX thing, which they backpeddled on.

MS I think tries to hard to control things in the PC space. I get their reasoning, but you'd think after all these attempts, they'd come to realize that people don't like to jump through hoops. Developers aren't going to. Their competition isn't going to make it easy on them. So you'd think they'd just realize that being consumer friendly on PC with how products work is the best way to get people to use your products. They don't seem to have any problem realizing this with their enterprise solutions, where they do offer the choice, and it allows their clients to choose what's best for them, so maybe try that in their consumer level products and see how it goes. I think they're doing that more with their Xbox plans overall, how it turns out we'll see over time.

l33t_haxx0r1797d ago

Just face it, Xbox is crap. Mediocre at best, games are pathetic, next gen will be the same.

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff21831d 11h ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan21h ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin19h ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_17h ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan15h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff218313h ago(Edited 13h ago)

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad3h ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay87012h ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

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-Foxtrot1d 11h ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink1d 3h ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff218313h ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla20h ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl52320h ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin19h ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-6417h ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga16h ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay87016h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps21h ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla20h ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek14h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff218313h ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb21h ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing6920h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip17h ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv722d ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk2d ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.