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Phil Harrison: Stadia starts an "inevitable and one-way shift" away from consoles

Google VP also addresses concerns about bandwidth caps and those cryptic game teases shown before the keynote.

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Eonjay1901d ago

We will see what happens with this. Right now if it became the only option out there most of us around the world wouldn't be gaming. Technology and internet infrastructure still need to advance to make it viable for everyone.
Let's see where this goes in 10 years.

uth111901d ago

people were having the exact same discussions 10 years ago around Onlive, and mony people's internet quality hasn't improved much since

SuperSonic911899d ago

So Shuhei Yoshida was there at the keynote.
Well that is very interesting indeed.

I wonder what is the deal with SIE games going to Stadia.

ShadowWolf7121899d ago

@Sonic

Yoshida attends Nintendo and Xbox events too. Has for years.

Where's them PS games on Xbox and Switch, yo?

tehpees31899d ago

@uth11

And On Live was early and didn't have a large scale company like Google backing it. Like I said yesterday believing it will fail is extremely short sighted because if a company as big as Google or Apple enter the market you know they intend to be there to see it through.

Having Google's hype behind it instantly gives it an advantage over On Live because people trust Google rather than just a random brand name that just popped up out of nowhere.

SuperSonic911899d ago

@ shadow

For the record let it be known by all that the rights to all Spider-man consumer products tied to the movie titles are owned by Sony.

Activision: "We are thrilled to accept this award from LIMA," states Plager.  "It underscores the tremendous worldwide appeal of the Spider-Man brand among the vast array of high-quality licensed products available in the marketplace.  This honor recognizes the hard work and dedication of everyone at Treyarch, Activision and our partners at Marvel and Sony."

The Spider-Man vide o game was developed by Activision through a license from Spider-Man Merchandising LP, a 50/50 limited partnership comprised of Marvel Enterprises, Inc. and Sony Pictures Consumer Products Inc.  Spider-Man Merchandising LP oversees the licensing and merchandising for the Columbia Pictures "Spider-Man™ 2" motion picture as well as Sony Pictures Television's new "Spider-Man" animated television series.  The "Spider-Man™ 2" motion picture and the new "Spider-Man" animated television series are both based on the Marvel character."

So yeah Sony had lots of their own stuff published on Nintendo and Xbox and PC.

You guys are just lazy to do your homework.

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Fluttershy771899d ago

We, the hardcore gamers won't support it, but what about the casuals? ... I see this, if its done right, as a great option for them
and @uth11 Do you hear what you are saying? Led Zeppelin's song 10 years gone... and it has improved! maybe not for you, but last 10 years the changes have been drastic

optimus1899d ago (Edited 1899d ago )

@fluttershy....i don't mind it at all...people were hesitant on converting from cd music to digital and now finding a record store is like coming across Stonehenge and marvel at the years that once was...the last time i bought a cd was over 5 years ago (only to rip it on a pc so i can listen to it as i had no cd player) same goes for dvd's. and here we are, people STILL enjoy their movies in their digital iterations, some people are even selling their physical counterparts, cleaning their dusty shelves, racks or boxes; people are just afraid of change but eventually they conform, accept, and learn to embrace it...as far as games go...

picture this possible scenario,(remove all the lagging problems people ASSUME it will have).... say the next assassins creed comes out next year for all consoles including stadia...except it's $60 for the physical and digital versions BUT on stadia it's $15 day 1...no need to wait for download or patches. and you can play it just about anywhere you go with no problems, do you really think people aren't going to flock to that option? that's what google is banking on.

Fluttershy771899d ago (Edited 1899d ago )

@optimus Well of course reality is what it is, but we are allowed to be against it. I don't like my music digital,in fact I buy the music I really like - you'll probably laugh - vinyl (better sound quality). I hate netflix (I can never find the movie I want to watch there, and the quality is sht) I buy my movies on Blu-ray
In this day and age, maybe you can't find a record store (I do support the local one and I think we all should), but I'm able to find even new albums releases on vinyl online, easily...
I really don't mind about what the masses chooses to do... Consumers as a whole are easily manipulated... Oh yeah it's so cheap, hey $15!!!... at first... then one day you'll find yourself paying for extra save files.
You'll find yourself waiting for the ads to end because they are interrupting your favorite Metal Gear Solid moment. You'll find that you don't own any of the games, and probably you want to replay an old game you liked, but it isn't there anymore, because it wasn't popular enough... Who cares? You got Assassins Creed!!!

optimus1899d ago (Edited 1899d ago )

@Fluttershy....that's basically my point. you can be against any form of new media but it's not going to matter much if it's convenient and makes money. buying your media in physical form is fine but you limit your consumption of it. where you and people like you were once considered the masses of the industry, are now a niche group. where you might find the unique sound of a needle scraping in the grooves between the tracks of a vinyl record endearing, others love the noiseless transition of tracks on a cd or mp3....

yes, consumers are easily manipulated which is why companies pay millions to put their ads on tv's...and consumers won't mind it if said product brings a level of convenience with it...cable companies are losing customers by the thousands on a monthly basis because of the convenience (and price) that comes with streaming...gaming is no different... i have a whole rack of games i USED to play last generation and some this generation. the more i look at it the more i realize it's just taking up space...selling or trading any of those games will profit me enough for a decent lunch for 2 people...not really worth the hundreds i spent on them originally....ownership is overrated at that point...plus, games will never die if their roms still exist somewhere on the web...the many roms sites today is proof of that.

however, if i had access to them in digital format and access to them anywhere at any time then i would likely play a few of them again should the nostalgia strike me without worry of getting something scratched or my disc drive suddenly not working...again, convenience is what will drive the industry forward and google and Microsoft are seeing this now....

having in game ads interrupt your game is just mere speculation on your part. we're talking about a subscription service here; no different than the music streaming services that are commercial free with a paid subscription.

Stevonidas1899d ago

With Phil Harrison running things, they're sure to fuck something up. How that guy keeps getting hired is beyond my understanding.

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XiNatsuDragnel1901d ago

I want this to fail tbh so can we have options in the future

SuperSonic911899d ago

How about PS Now on PC?
Its the same idea isn't it?

XiNatsuDragnel1899d ago

Still not successful and meant as an option not a permanent thing

mcstorm1899d ago

Tbh I think Google are going the wrong way about it.

I think Microsofts vision of having a choice of cloud and console is the direction people/companys will go.

The way its seems its going to be sold is xcloud will be for casual market but also an added extra to play your owned games on the go./away from your home console.

For me that's a better option. Adding services in there like game pass is also a bonus. We also don't know what 3rd party games will be on Google service. For it to work they will need COD, Fifa to name a few. I also think it needs to be cross play to because of the small user base it will have at the start.

For me I think this is the start of a new way to play games with just a device connected to the Web but I also think Sony Nintendo and Microsoft have the advantage because of the big name exclusives, having full consoles and then offering this as a service to.

Only time will tell if this will be a hit or not but for me I'm more interested in xcloud than this from what has been said but when all said and done we won't know what they are like until we get to play them for our self's.

2pacalypsenow1900d ago

The last thing we need is Google dominating another sector.

I hope this fails, leave gaming to Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

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crazyCoconuts1899d ago

MS is better positioned than Google here. I'm assuming the power advantage on the cloud won't amount to that much when you factor in the REAL resolution you get with compressed and dynamic streams as well as the fact that new and more powerful consoles are on the way in a year or two.

Shikoku1899d ago (Edited 1899d ago )

They will be announced this year dude bank on it

Thundercat771899d ago

If MS power of the cloud is as powerful as the power of the cloud in Crackdown 3, then they are in trouble.

Dragonscale1899d ago

That depends on what ms plans are and its not looking good tbh. Dunno about Sony but can't see Nintendo going down that route tbh.

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Kurupt1899d ago

Honestly hope it fails...i like traditional consoles and my physical copies..so Google can f*** off with ur "I'm taking over and that's that"..

JackBNimble1899d ago

I really don't think traditional consoles are going anywhere anytime soon.
Until 5G infrastructure is mainstream without data caps then streaming can only remain limited for most people.

bluefox7551899d ago

Yeah, no thanks. I hate that I'm forced to use Google products as it is. I won't be buying their sh*tty game service.

SephirothX211899d ago

A lot of people speaking prematurely here. Just because you don't like the idea of something, doesn't mean its shitty. You haven't tried it yet. Streaming is the future. It's just a matter of when. Consoles for people with poor internet. Streaming for the rest. Network speeds and infrastructure will improve to the point where input speed differences are negligible. Consoles don't come out quickly enough to be able to take advantage of current technological breakthroughs. Streaming will allow much faster hardware upgrades. A game company will eventually not provide both options because it will not be viable due to the hardware differences between the console and the hardware in the data centres that is being upgraded a lot more frequently.

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Interview: Winifred Phillips Discusses the Wizardry Soundtrack -- Gamerhub UK

The talented music maker discusses her process, challenges and, of course, magic!

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The Status of Every PlayStation Franchise

Sony owns a fair few iconic franchises - many dating right back to the original PlayStation. But while we’re pretty familiar with the likes of ongoing series such as God of War, Horizon, and Gran Turismo, there are plenty of PlayStation franchises that haven’t seen the light of day in a long time. So in this video, we’re going to be taking a look at the status of PlayStation’s many IPs, and checking in on when we last heard from them.

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Skuletor4h ago

A 20+ minute video? Just include the written list in the article.

DarXyde15m ago

Status in one word:

Underutilized.

The end.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS720h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg20h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni19h ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Einhander197216h ago(Edited 16h ago)

CS7

In the ideal world yes.

In the real world where companies have shown little desire to innovate and spent every effort to maximize profits the end result will be the same quality games (if were lucky) made by less people and more AI.

Company Real World: Fires 200 people and makes the same game cheaper using AI and the executives get record bonuses.

Edit:

Lets look at history, specifically auto manufacturing.

In the 70's and 80's the auto unions tried to oppose automation of jobs (robots) stating that they would take peoples jobs. And the people in charge who wanted to make more money said the exact same types of things that are being said about AI. But we can look at history and see that countless types of jobs were in fact replaced by automation, that was of course even compounded upon by computers.

The net effect was that the rich got richer less jobs were needed so wages were forced down by competition for the jobs that were left.

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Number1TailzFan20h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

senorfartcushion18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

He doesn't, he's just lying. These people lay people off so they can get bonuses. If AI takes jobs, their bonus goes bigger and the workforce goes smaller.

porkChop16h ago

Because he sees AI as a tool to aid development. He wants to use AI to help make bigger and better games in the same timeframe. Other CEOs want to replace devs with AI to cut costs and make lifeless games faster for a quick buck. Strauss has the right idea, this is how AI should be used. To extend and expand the capabilities of devs.

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jambola22h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

DarXyde1h ago

I think you mean candor, not intelligence.

If you take him to mean what he's saying at face value, sure.

I don't. And I think he's clearly lying.

romulus2321h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody20h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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