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What Does Success Mean for Crackdown 3?

Matt, Brendan, Chris and James gather to discuss the biggest industry headlines of the past week on The GamesIndustry.biz Podcast,l.

Chief among them is the arrival of Crackdown 3 and the difficulty it presents in judging its success. Media reviews are mixed, its retail performance (in the UK, at least) has been poor, yet engagement on Xbox One seems to be high, thanks to Game Pass. Is this the first in a new type of release, where the metrics the industry has relied on in the past are ultimately meaningless?

Also discussed are the ongoing troubles of Starbreeze, with the poor performance of Overkill's The Walking Dead continuing to highlight the struggles the Swedish publisher faces. With the company now in a reconstruction period to avoid insolvency, what does the future look like for Starbreeze?

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ApocalypseShadow1925d ago (Edited 1925d ago )

You would hope it would be sales. Product performs well, you make another product. Possibly a sequel.

I don't know how "likes," "looks," and "twitter and mixer watchers" somehow make you money and a return on investment in it unless you are going to fill it with micro transactions, dlc, season passes and advertising. Translation: Gaas. And $2 for 2 months is like giving it away hoping for a long term investment on services that isn't guaranteed to be a success.

But that only works if you have a good product worth playing and coming back to. But media reviews aren't mixed. The majority have put it in the 60% range. That's not "mixed." The cake batter is bland and not representative of the large, sweet tasting wedding cake that was promised.

gamer78041924d ago

it can still succeed in the way Netflix shows succeed. The perform well on that service along and it helps keep subscription dollars coming in consistently.

Fluttershy771925d ago

I feel like with Xbox this gen we always have all these revolutionary measures and parameters to know if they were successful or not...
The game it's a success no matter what because it is on game pass, which is " a new way of deliver"...

Modern Graphics, Sound, level design, actual gameplay, just simple modern controls, are no longer important all that matters it's fun (which is no longer subjective... no! it has become a new objective parameter
It doesn't matter that every single big release on the Xbox has review poorly... Critics! Right?
In any case all these games with bad reviews belong to the old cycle of Xbox Studios development; since E3 last year we know that MS acquire a lot of new studios that are making great games, that will also have great reviews... Hey you have to wait, but here's a trailer of Halo: you can see the Rhinos wrinkles.

The Xbox is successful because it sold millions (new standard practice is not to reveal your actual numbers... We are not hiding the numbers because they are bad, no! Is just that... We think that the... numbers of consoles you sell... no longer reflect if the console is successful or not )
No matter that Xbox lost their number one market to Sony (a market that was previously owned by far)... no matter that the Xbox almost doesn't exist in the rest of the world (because: Who cares about the World! Right?) no matter that the Switch comes like 3 years later and with a failure console on their backpack and still sells like hot cake and is catching up with what... We think... We think... are the Xb1 numbers.
Exclusive now also means "on PC"... The traditional concept of "exclusive to the console" that's just ridiculous!
Of course exclusivity always meant on PC too! Sometimes exclusivity also means... exclusive for like a little while... exclusive at launch, maybe 6 months, but then the rest could have the game if they want: But we had our 6 months! We'll always have Paris...
We want more players to enjoy our games... I mean I don't know who or why someone created this outrageous concept... is not that competition helped the industry in any way... Is not like it's forcing you to try to offer something better for your consumer. No! that's archaic. Competition is bad!
We prefer crossplay that's What all gamers really want. Shame on you Sony for not letting us reach out to your people!
Also in modern gaming exclusives are no longer important, Who cares about exclusives?! Who cares that you have some dormant franchises! Who wants to play Fable, Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake? When you have Crackdown and you can have fun!

Godmars2901924d ago (Edited 1924d ago )

Between it being offered on GamePass and MS not reporting actual and separate sale numbers, how is anyone outside of MS suppose to judge it or anything on Xbox?

IamTylerDurden11924d ago

If they spin Crackdown 3 as a success then how offensively bad does an Xbox game have to be in order to be deemed a failure?

ILostMyMind1924d ago

I know what Crackdown 3 means for success: nothing.

rainslacker1924d ago

I'm afraid we don't know the answer to this until MS defines what success is for the game. Usually they would have done that by now, but 9 days in, and nary a word. Hopefully in the next couple days, we'll get the official word from MS about why this game is successful, because the Xbox fan boys don't seem to be sure how to proceed in their spin on why this game is successful.

All I know, it's not a good sign when MS isn't saying anything.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS71h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg1h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni33m ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Number1TailzFan1h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

jambola3h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

romulus231h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody1h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf2d ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic1d 23h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv721d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop1d 19h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv721d 19h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19721d 17h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

fr0sty1d 11h ago

MS started lumping gold subscribers in with those GP numbers... keep in mind.

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shinoff21831d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv721d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje1d 21h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils1d 16h ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick1d 20h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

gamerz1d 13h ago

Just let my subscription lapse for the first time since 2010. Will sub again every now and then for a month or so to access my old ps+ games but for me it's the end of an era.

DivineHand1251d 12h ago

Let those numbers continue to drop because it is now too expensive. $80 per year just to play online. I noticed they didn't offer any discounts on the subscription or controllers during this year's days of play for the first time in many years and they will feel it when people choose not to renew.

My subscription will lapse next month and it will stay that way until further notice.

KevtheDuff1d 9h ago

There were savings on subs and controllers here in the UK? I bought a controller yesterday in the sale..
It would be weird if those deals were not in other territories too?

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Silent Hill Transmission Livestream

Konami has announced that a Silent Hill Transmission will take place on Thursday, May 30, at 4pm PT/7pm ET that will reveal game updates, a "deeper look at the film," and new merch. Join us at IGN to find out what's next for this beloved franchise.

RaidenBlack2d ago

Hope SH2 gets more polish before release.

P_Bomb2d ago

I’m not paying $94 CAD for what they’ve shown me. Looks rough as sin.

Fishy Fingers2d ago

Ive seen better lip syncing during a Punch and Judy show

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This looks terrible. Capcom should have done the remake 😂 The animations and gameplay looks stiff.

-Foxtrot2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Okay. I was saying before in another article how SH2 looked better than the last trailer, which is true but damn this looks rough as hell.

I wanted RE4 / Dead Space remake quality

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't buy it for $70 dollars. Maybe when it's on sale.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Yeah full price, deluxe editions, Konami are f***** tripping here.

CrimsonWing692d ago

The characters look terrible to me… like it’s distracting.

repsahj2d ago

I will give this game a chance!!! let's go!