Valve talks to IGN about its reputation, and why they're finally in a place to make games again.
Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.
According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."
My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.
Right. I definitely see what a headlined from a website named windows central was trying to do though. It's cute little wordplay to help out the green box
Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.
Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player
The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.
It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.
Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.
If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated
Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.
Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.
@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.
You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.
Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.
And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.
The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.
More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.
Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.
And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol
Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.
They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.
Helldivers 2 was luck.
Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.
Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.
Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something
I can't remember more... Of that crap.
@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.
@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.
I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.
Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.
Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.
It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.
NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.
4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.
Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.
Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.
The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.
Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.
Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?
I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.
The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!
Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.
Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.
What a bootlicker statement.
@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.
Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol
Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!
Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.
It sold shit.
But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding
Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.
Days gone was ok. Not great. So I understand Sony wanted something else.
I like that Sony is trying something new with these Online games.
I can really see you are the spokesperson for the gaming community with these likes 😉
New? I don't play online but I've seen hundreds of comments calling Concord a hero shooter, yet another hero shooter is what their saying. Doesnt sound new.
The game was straight ass, give us something original or get left behind. I’m all for the direction sony is going in, adapt or perish
I'd hate to live by your standards... it must be impossible to enjoy most games for you.
I just enjoy whats appealing to me and move on with my life instwad of whining about it like some of you.
Such a shame I love Days Gone. Not the best Sony single player experience but it was decent. I much rather have a days gone 2 that has a full on single player (maybe even allow co-op) story mode. With a tacked on live service looter shooter escape from tarkov type of multiplayer.
Rather than something like concord. Looks like the run of the mill destiny/overwatch type of game that's not even free to play and is most likely going to die within months.
“I do have an opinion on something that your audience may find of interest, and it might piss some of them off,” Garvin replied. “If you love a game, buy it at f****** full price. I can't tell you how many times I've seen gamers say 'yeah, I got that on sale, I got it through PS Plus, whatever'.”
This is a quote from the Days Gone director. The game clearly did not do well when it mattered. Most of the talk about a sequel came after the game was heavily discounted. Here is my question, why should Sony or another company invest 100s of millions into a sequel when most didn't care to support and buy the game at full price, but only after it was discounted?
Absolutely this. I don't mind that people loved Days Gone, I personally couldn't get into it, but acting like Sony is some sort of evil corporate machine when the game was not a massive financial success is bizarre when we're talking about the same publisher that backed games like Dreams, Death Stranding, Stellar Blade, Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima and now Astro Bot.
I'm sorry but at this point this director needs to stop being salty about his game. Death Stranding was a niche game that ended up selling five million copies before its Director's Cut came out and it's made by a video game legend in Kojima. It getting a sequel is not out of this world to imagine.
I mean, they did all the work making the game, they could have put more effort in trying to sell and market it. If it really was so outstanding it would have sold out the gate, but the characters and overall appearance was drab. Timing of this design wasn’t great and nobody asked for another zombie open world game.
They showed off the hordes some before launch I remember, but should have shown more and not held back and done more aggressive marketing.
Days Gone is an above average game, it’s simply not great, and nostalgia always looks rose tinted. It was no day one $70 game for most and wasn’t sold or billed as being AAA
Is this guy ever going to shut up and move on with his life? Days Gone did fairly well, got decent reviews, but frankly doesn’t even crack the top 20 best PlayStation exclusives. They don’t owe you another 250 million to make a sequel dude.
and i feel like we all forget what a broken mess is was at launch. it might not be anymore but people move on quickly
Totally. Personally I don’t like the characters or writing, the hordes were cool but everything else had been done before…and better. I would rank it average at best and he’s acting like he got screwed over… and he does this every 6 months or so for the last 5 years.
There are so many games that are way better than Days Gone that completely flopped due to a hundred different reasons. S*** happens and it sucks and a lot of people worked really hard on it I’m sure, that does not mean you are guaranteed success or a franchise to make your career off of… happens all the time.
While I think this stuff should not be forgotten, I don't think you can really put that all on the dev. The people in charge (publisher) are the ones who decide when to release the game. If it was up to the dev, it wouldn't have been released until they were ready.
He created generic characters in a familiar setting, people should stop going on about this “hidden gem” that is under appreciated and not properly supported by Sony.
That game (series) is Infamous.
I so agree with you ShwaaMan, and everyone seems to forget that this game scored more than 10 percent and up to 20 percent less OVERALL on Metacritic compared to Sony's usual standard. We should actually respect the fact that Sony isn't swayed by the number of units it sold, when it didn't meet their quality standards. By these people's logic Sony should push whatever crap sells rather than worry about delivering top quality games which they do.
I cannot believe some commenters here are comparing a best-of-the-generation game like Bloodborne to this decent-at-best game that most of these people won't show up for a sequel for. Yet people are still begging for a Bloodborne remaster.
I think the majority of players who played Days Gone know it got reviewed bomb before they even fixed it. Some reviews came out 2 weeks before the game released and those bugs were pretty much fixed or almost fixed. So it really didn’t have a fair chance since Sony wants 90 and above metacritic score on their first party games. I understand Ross’s fustration since it had a good story and you would want to see it completed.
On Bend Studio’s title. I think I’ve read that it will have multiplayer. I don’t know if that means it’s a story game with a multiplayer features or a multiplayer focused title. Some think it’s another GAaS game. Whatever it is $250 million seems like normal budget for a new title these days. The only Playstation Studios that didn’t have this big budget was Sucker Punch with Ghost of Tsushima.
All in all I just hope for a fun experience and give them the benefit of the doubt. And see what they can do.
I bought the collectors Edition and never opened it. I bought another copy too. The game was great to me but it got crapped on by the media and the a lot of gamers crapped on it. It sold well only have the big price drops
Look I love Days Gone, and I wish there was a sequel. But I feel like not a month goes by without the director publicly complaining about it. Even before launch he was always whining “why is everyone calling them zombies, they’re freakers” etc. I get that it sucks to see something you worked on so hard to not get the respect it deserves, but move on bro. It’s been 5 years, throw yourself into whatever’s next.
yea. i feel like he always comes back every year to say how sony didnt want a sequel lol
I fear Bend Studio next game will fail badly since it’s a Gaas game, and thus may have their necks on the chopping block soon.
Imagine Days Gone 2 with single player and multiplayer component. The last one being like a World War Z, Left 4 Dead like missions... That would be awesome and open the franchise to new horizons, but oh well dreaming is free at least for now.
look, whatever it is u think about Days Gone, this is such a weird thing to bring up every.damn
year.
if he wants to make another spiritual successor, he should do it, but all he does is shit talking stuff he was a part of. ha.
that might have been appropriate the year of the launch and maybe the next. but its been 5 years.
time to move on.
Good lord, Mr Ross move on already. Still whining about what your ex-employer is doing instead of talking about the project you are working on now.
I preferred Days Gone over LoU. Days Gone focused a bit more on gameplay and world building, the story was a bit rough but there was a lot more going on compared to LoU.
Geez still butthurt Ross? Sony Does NOT want another zombie game in the fing oversaturated market of zombie games dude. You gambled your project with Sony, you KNEW they had final say, so please stfu already. Fing pathetic.
Couldn’t get into this game because it felt like the bike had a top speed of 25mph.
Sony's logic:
Sell 7-7.5 million units = Failure, no one liked the game. (Bloodborne, Days Gone)
Sell 9+ million units = Success, everyone and their grandmother love the game. (Ghosts of Tsushima, TLOU, Uncharted)
Sony's criteria between success and failure is razor thin and insanely out of touch with its player base. If 7+ million people went to see a new movie while in theaters, it would be hailed a massive success, but in the games industry within Sony's world, it means screw all the people who enjoyed it and move on to something "better". Like I said, out of touch.
Spiderman 2 sold 11 mill
Sucseess!
But...
Spiderman 1 sold 22 mill
So...it failed?
No no no it didn't no!
Are you seriously ignoring that Days Gone had lukewarm to weak critical reception? It scored 11-20 percent less than Sony's games on average on metacritic and launched in a messy state. The fact that it sold lots of units is no guarantee its sequel will be a success given how it was received. Not to mention the Days Gone devs crying about people not buying the game at full price and reviewers being "woke".
The game clearly didn't get the reception Sony expects and they didn't feel a sequel should be greenlit. By your logic Sony should release games with the quality level of Fast and Furious, Call of Duty and Transformers because they sell units. There's something called quality standards as well. Days Gone isn't fit to lick Bloodborne's boots in terms of quality, I'm afraid.
They also put way too much stock on what meta critic says. Whether a good or bad score, the problem with meta critic is way too many on there are just following the herd. They don’t want to be one outlet that gave the opposite review from everyone else.
Still angry Sony scrapped Days Gone 2 I quite enjoyed the first game yeah it had bugs but I thought it was fun. I enjoyed trophy hunting that game.
Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.
I guess.
How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )
At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.
MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.
one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.
"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"
Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.
Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.
Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.
"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."
MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.
It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.
Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?
I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.
"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."
Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.
"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."
Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.
Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.
The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.
Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately
...
Goes right back to them as partners.
Okaaaaaay...
Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.
From the article...
"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"
I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.
MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂
The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol
The reason they would need to "partner with Microsoft" is simply to make a game that's part of a franchise that Microsoft owns. Meaning they're probably going to make a new Spyro game - they're still an independent studio, but are making a game in a franchise that Microsoft owns. It's kind of like Remedy partnering with Rockstar to be able to make the Max Payne remakes.
Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.
That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.
Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.
No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently
I highly highly doubt this. Ms controls all. The guys aren't gonna be allowed to just shut something down like that without approval. No way
Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.
Hey you said that about SOT and looks like many ppl on PS is playing it. You also found bugsnax interesting ffs your opinion hold no weight lol.
Bugsnax is BS, tried it & quickly deleted it. It's a game that fits right on Gamepass. PS5 owners that are probably playing the boring SOT you could count on one hand. LMAO!!...don't try to come for me.
So you admit bugsnax interested you enough to try? 😂 someone gotta call you out on the foolishness.
Toys For Bob ended up being made to help with COD games and they didn't want to do that anymore.
I don't know why Microsoft just didn't keep them part of the company and let them make what they wanted. Assuming Microsoft approved of the new title.
Hell yeah, great studio, was worried they’d continue to get folded into the CoD blob. Great they’ll get to spread their wings!
I don't understand how people don't get what's going on here. The reason they would need to "partner with Microsoft" is to make a game within a franchise that Microsoft owns. Meaning they're probably going to make a new Spyro game
IGN = 3 letters...
Half life 3 cough cough
I'm sure they are aware. But they're just too busy rolling around in their beds made of cash to care.
"Very aware of all the jokes" = 3 words start with a vowel, Half-Life 3 confirmed!
If they know then I don't know why they haven't done something...is it fun to kind of fall from grace within the gaming community. Does it feel good to know people are making jokes and talking about you? Instead of latching off Steam how about you actually make games again and by that I don't mean TF2 updates and DoTA 2 stuff.
Left 4 Dead 3 with the original survivors
Portal 3
Team Fortress 3
Counter Strike
Help expand GMod on consoles I'm sure Gary would like it on more platforms
New IPs like the cancelled Crossing game
Either remake Half Life yourself or get one of the many projects out there
Half Life 3...obviously
So much to do, so little time.