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Should Gamers Be Worried For the PlayStation Brand

The week after E3, PlayStation gamers should be talking about Last of Us Part 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, and at the very least build the hype towards Spiderman PS4. Instead, Fortnite cross-play controversy has dropped on the very slow news week to dominate as the must talk about issue in the industry, which has led some fans to worry whether or not Sony is going back to their arrogant past. The Trophy Room host, Joseph and Kyle talk about whether or not gamers should be apprehensive about Sony and PlayStation, as they transition into the next generation.

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masterfox2168d ago (Edited 2168d ago )

Almost 80 million PS4 units sold and counting, now shat up with this ridiculous articles! :D

DigitalRaptor2168d ago (Edited 2168d ago )

Man these over-dramatic negative articles are an absolute hoot!

Sony is arrogant because they had the courtesy to tell gamers IN ADVANCE that they were focusing on deep dives of their biggest 4 upcoming first-party games, some VR and third-party at E3, and given that they've already announced the vast majority of their first-party games for the rest of the generation from most of their studios (setting the bar for amazing conferences for this generation), who could be expecting too much else? The ignorant, is who. Sony is arrogant because they aren't bending to the will of the loud minority who actually care about cross-play, while the rest of the majority continues to keep supporting PlayStation in one of its most successful generations? Like, they're arrogant because it has to happen right now or the industry is in jeopardy or something? Makes me laugh. Sony is focusing on what matters... GAMES, and they can leave the service crap until later... just like Phil Spencer left games until very last on his priority list, and it still seems that way.

This is just more privileged whining.

NewMonday2168d ago

the Sony plan worked because the popularity of the 4 big exclusives is through the roof, they were the most watched and talked about exclusives in E3. PS4 used to just manage one or 2 and the reset of their announcements would lost in the clutter.

xHeavYx2167d ago

Looks to me that people from camp #2 and camp #3 are worried about PlayStation.

Skull5212167d ago (Edited 2167d ago )

Lol Sony never left behind their arrogance.

I don’t think there is anything to worry about, it’s just same ol’ Sony, ignoring fan feedback and doing their own thing, doesn’t really seem to bother people though. I appreciate a company listening to its fans though and evolving their product to make it better.

Dark_Knightmare22167d ago (Edited 2167d ago )

Yeah these rags smelled blood and went for it. The fact is in another week or two this will die down and we will go back to the status quo. The internet is a very small and very vocal minority of gamers while the majority of gamers couldn’t care less about crossplay it’s just something for fanboys of other consoles to troll on and for these online rags to write ridiculous articles

fiveby92167d ago

Sony is in no way arrogant. Producing games for gamers is not arrogant. They have been far more consistent since PS4 launched than MS could ever dream of. Sony doesn't react to Xbox fanboys whining about cross-play as they are not even Sony customers. This is a complete non-issue from my perspective. Plenty of players on PSN now. Clearly, MS doesn't feel the same for their platform. This is clearly some orchestrated effort by MS marketing to sully their competitor but in reality, it has no relevance to their platform. MS clearly asking their fans in the 'press' (and I use that term lightly), to write these articles. It won't work. Nobody cares what MS does.

clockward1002167d ago

You said it perfectly👍👍

Muzikguy2167d ago (Edited 2167d ago )

Privileged whining indeed. I can't believe all these articles that act like they're starting their own angry mobs or something. Give it a rest already

@NewMonday

Is that true? I think I remember seeing MS claim they had the most viewers (not that I'd believe that but you know)

ABizzel12166d ago

It's only a problem if it isn't addressed for next-gen. They have nothing to worry about for the next year and a half - 2+ years.

kreate2166d ago

Is it OK to say that I'm genuinely worried about the Xbox brand.?

I'm really not worried about the PlayStation brand at all. I don't think anybody is.

G3ng4r2166d ago

You may not care about crossplay and other sony-dedicated will say the same thing because it's become the standard line of defense against critism from the rest of the gaming world outside of your minority. Anyone who thinks no ps4 owner is annoyed about their epic account is a fool.

Not worried, no. We've seen this sort of thing before and remember what happened last time they became prickish and arrogant, ms and nintendo made their wii60 scenes and sony fell out of favor for most of that generation. At this rate ps5 will be the new ps3 before sony is humbled again and the cycle repeats. As of right now they're fine in terms of exclusives but patience will wear thin with all but the most commited as consumer opinion matters less.

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Aenea2166d ago (Edited 2166d ago )

@skull

And I appreciate a more honest company to one that lies, steals and cheats, same 'ol MS too...

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And as for cross-play, well it would be nice to have I suppose but am not missing it.

The whole Fortnite thing is something Sony gets the blame for but I believe Epic is to blame as well.
Sone has certain rules (which the other 2 have as well but somehow are lenient with it when it comes to Fortnite, one can wonder why that is....) about being able to move stuff you bought on PS4 to another console and to not be able to do cross-saves.
Since Epic doesn't know the difference between an account created on PC, all the money spent on PC, but used once on PS4 and an account that has been created on PS4 and money spent on PS4 is an Epic problem, not Sony's. Sony doesn't mind in the first instance if that account is then used on another console, nothing that was bought on a Sony device is being moved, no 'perceived income' lost. The other way around they would want a game dev to make sure that items bought on PS4 can't be used on another platform and since Epic doesn't keep track of what is bought where (and with the whole first buying vbucks, then spend the vbucks later makes it actually rather difficult to keep track of it) Epic decided to just use "oh, used once on PS4, now you can't use it on another console" instead.

So since Epic knew about these rules way before Fortnite was just an idea they could have anticipated this somehow. And on the other hand Sony might at least be a tad more lenient in the future to make it easier on devs (and consumers)...

TLDR; to just blame Sony is silly

JackBNimble2166d ago

Someone tell me why everyone other than PlayStation fans are begging for Ps4 cross play.

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ULTp0ltergeist2167d ago

pffft, slowly becoming irrelevant btw. Time to start rooting for great games instead of being a hardware fangirl.

GamesMaster19822167d ago

Great games? You mean that what Sony provides the best variety of.

ULTp0ltergeist2167d ago

yes! No point in repeating 80 million. Time to move up, better games.

fenome2167d ago

I honestly don't give a shit about crossplay or fortnite, Sony first party keeps launching dope games so that's the least of my worries. I've seen a lot of 'concern' over this though, it's funny

Eonjay2167d ago

No one cared until Microsoft went all in on PUBG and Fortnite ate its lunch.

Markusb332166d ago

Fake outrage from other platforms that hate Sony but want the best for Sony gamers please. Talk about jumping on a narrative and going over board

subtenko2166d ago

yea i sitll dont play for nite either, not dissing the game, theres just a lot of other games and stuff to do

fenome2166d ago

@subtenko

Yeah, I'm not trying to diss fortnite, it obviously appeals to a whole bunch of people, it's just not my type of game. I'm not big into online multiplayer so fortnight and crossplay doesn't affect me one way or another.

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TGG_overlord2167d ago

I hardly doubt that Sony will have to cry themselves to sleep over lack of sales and awesome games anytime soon.

Aceman182167d ago

Not worried here as they keep providing me with games I want to play, something that not can be said about the other HD console.

I actually think Sony will allow crossplay once they figure out how to make sure PS gamers don't have to create an Live ID if they don't want too. Or that they make sure that this doesn't benefit MS or Ninty in the slightest.

Until then ppl just gonna have to wait, and stop their entitled ass bitching.

3-4-52167d ago

Not much to be worried about except they won't have the same advantage going into next gen as Microsoft won't make the same mistakes, which makes it a closer race from the beginning.

I can't wait for next gen honestly....this gen has just been kind of a stop gap waiting for the tech boost so we can get a true next gen.

imtiyaz62167d ago

MS never beat PlayStation. PlayStation is a bigger brand. It won’t happen, just stop. Unless Sony shoots themselves in the foot.

Aceman182167d ago

No matter what ppl say MS will NEVER win a generation outright for a few simple reasons.

1 they are only popular in 2 regions US, UK, and if they can't sell 50 mil units a piece in both you can forget it.

2 MS is NOT popular in the rest of the world.

Even with the year and half headstart the 360 had the lead didn't last because the Playstation was popular worldwide.

gobluesamg2167d ago

A stop gap for xbox fans. This has been and continues to be an amazing generation for Sony fans. Amazing games>pixel counts.

KickSpinFilter2166d ago

I have been gaming from the start. And this by far is the best generation I have seen. PS4 has just been amazing, I'm blown away with the quality of games.

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Muzikguy2167d ago

This is ridiculous. All this is is media making a frenzy out of nothing. It happens all the time. The articles will stop if people stop writing them. There's no reaon to make this into a bigger issue than it really is

rainslacker2167d ago

Well obviously, with PS becoming a cornerstone of Sony in recent years, they're going to botch it up going forward. /s

Drithe2166d ago

The ONLY reason Microsoft and Nintendo want cross play is so they can plant their little employees playing with Sony games to tell them how awesome MS and Nintendo are. AKA they want to convert Sony gamers to their side. Want to bet there would be issues with Sony connections and not MS and Nintendo? Then you would see on this site opinion pieces about it and how Sony would suck for it.

Sony doesnt need them. MS for years has been trying to get Sony to do this. Don't do it Sony.

Starman692166d ago

Playstation have won the next round with ps5 as well BTW 😂

zerocarnage2166d ago

well the vast majority of those sales was early on and mid way through not towards the end.

You people go off as if all 80million were done in a week which is ridiculous itself.

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P_Bomb2168d ago

[Quote]PlayStation gamers should be talking about Last of Us Part 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, and at the very least build the hype towards Spiderman PS4... [/Quote]

Who says they’re not? I don’t go to Fortnite articles looking for Spider-Man.

UCForce2168d ago

I’m not into online gaming that much really. I’m started to lose interest since 2015. I only talk about the game what I love the most. I love HZD, Sniper Elite 4, Uncharted 4, God Of War and i’m going to love Spider Man as well.

UCForce2167d ago (Edited 2167d ago )

The only game i enjoy the most which have Coop and multiplayer including SP mode. It has to be Sniper Elite 4 because you can level up your rank of all modes on offline mode expect MP mode. Even Rainbow Six Vegas 2 have that, too. Why developers and publishers don’t have this ? Because it’s was less modernization and way better than MT.

generic-user-name2166d ago

Tomb Raider dev calling TLOU2 demo fake because it looked so good. I'd say things are fine.

SuperSonic912168d ago

Their PS4 hatered means nothing.

jagermaster6192167d ago

I'm an Xbox guy and I do agree with this statement!

TheSplooge2167d ago

There may be hatred with some of these articles, but there are so many niche titles on both the ps4 and xbox one. Now imagine bringing those communities together to enlarge the player base on both platforms. That would be great for everyone. Sony may have their reasons for rejecting crossplay, but i think the pressure will overcome them. I would definitely love to play some Battlefield with my cousin between PS4 and Xbox. I would love to own both systems, but i barley even have time to play on my X1. Mac and PC users can get along, why cant we? 😛

SuperSonic912166d ago

@ The Slooge
Last generation I really wanted that to happen between Pas3 and Xbox gamers out of good will. Sony was open to FFXI crossplay.

Heck I was dreaming of a unified gaming platform or game. Ps3 vs Xbox players. David Jafffe was also campaigning for such thing to happen but MS and Nintendo were too arrogant last gen.
They don't want anything of that.
So here we are now in reverse.

blackblades2167d ago

Hell yeah this and that days gone may flop articles are so ridiculous.

Gardenia2167d ago

The ones who scream the loudest are the haters who think they got something on Playstation because of cross play. Truth is no one really cares about cross play except for a few Fortnite teens, but you can't take them seriously

2pacalypsenow2168d ago

Sony is staked for the next 2 years with games.

So no.

SuperSaiyanGod412167d ago

Only ones talking about this issue are Nintendo and Microsoft fans saying Sony should be worried from fortnite because this game is huge. Sony will be ok from locking people out of one game. Epic makes tons of money from PSN to even complain about it so they gave Sony exclusive content to bundle to help sell more ps4's lol. Yes it's about money and epic is getting tons of it from PSN users. Welcome to America where it's all about making that mighty dollar lol.

chrisx2168d ago (Edited 2168d ago )

the PlayStation brand is the undisputed gamers champion. with games like spiderman, tlou2 etc incoming, after god of war etc, gamers have nothing to fear. the games are endless.

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Summer Game Fest 2024 and games conference schedule: All conference dates, times and streams

A schedule for all of the currently announced game conferences in June 2024, including the Summer Game Fest 2024 date and times.

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Lightning7711h ago

For the first time in a long time I have a hard time feeling excited for these events. Maybe it's because of all these massive lay offs and closures there hasn't exactly been good news since the start of the year.

Maybe come next week I'll get a little more excited but I dunno I just can't get too excited right now

thorstein9h ago

Maybe it will be an indie showcase.

Cacabunga4h ago

Cancelling e3 and introducing some ridiculous events..
Times have changed.. to the worse

Lightning773h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Back then it was very exciting, great looking trailers, on stage live gameplay where yes things can and have went wrong but that's how we knew it was a real games being played instead of curated footage extra doctored up that didn't even represent the actual game half the time. Games would release 6 months to a year max not 3 years later.

I miss past E3's even the goofiness like Giant enemy crab or Riiiidge Raceeer. Xbox and Kinect glitching Nintendo's craziness. Again it was real, these days there so protective, clean, doctored sets, where nothing can absolutely go wrong. Too strict and professional with heavy PR babble with buzzwords that mean nothing. Being professional is not bad but when it's fake and corporate heavy where you're made to buy into the words rather than the game, that's how you know it's not real.

Now SFG is just sizzle reeling all the games at once. Plus past SGF events haven't been that great either. Maybe that's not Geoffs fault but the pubs and devs are simply never ready to show anything and have to wait. This gen we've been waiting and waiting for these games.

Plus lay offs as I Mentioned. I dunno Geoff needs to do what made E3 great back then, get funding support and do live stage gameplay he has the support and so why not? Pubs and devs need to do their own thing at the event again. No more doctored bull crap with PR diarrhea trying to sell the game show us with a controller in your hand instead of making empty promises.

Rant over.

Cacabunga3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Lightning

I will never forget the pre-e3 one year where Kojima was teasing MGS Rising.. and Peace Walker.

Such an incredible period where studios enjoyed what they were doing and teasing their work weeks before the event.

Nowadays is half baked games, cross gen titles, useless mid gen upgrades. There is no hype anymore.
Last great show I remember is the PS EXPERIENCE maybe 3 or 4 years ago in December

gleepot2h ago

Maybe it's because Keighley sucks and never puts on good showcases.

Lightning771h ago

They aren't geoffs games he's not makin it. Though you're half right, he has the stage and events and controls the pace, how the games are shown and presented. If I was him I would have devs have real gameplay with a stage like how E3 used to be.

No more of this curated pre done footage that we've had in the past 4 years.

Actually before that they've been doing that format for awhile. Cyber Punk being the biggest culprit of that format because you can easily deceive and lie to ppl.

Yeah Geoff is half to blame

isarai6h ago

Is it just me or is there little to no buzz or marketing leading up to this compared to previous SGF?

monkey6022h ago

Because they've been consistently boring for the last couple of years. Hard to get worked up for it now

bRuud833h ago

Where is Sony? Still no news about the next Playstation showcase.

VR23h ago

It'll be June sometimes no doubt, I'm guessing the Saturday 10th the day after Xbox showcase or maybe sometime the following week

Lightning771h ago

Hopefully early next week at this point they are signed to SGF so they'll be there.

I also said in another post it's rumored to be a State Of Play now. The only AAA's I can see being announced now is Ghost 2 and Bends New game.

I can't see Santa Monica's New IP or ND New IP being announced. I can see GG being there announcing leggo Horizon, Zero Dawn remake or remaster, maybe the LS horizon game.

Skuletor45m ago

After the way they rudely hurried people off the stage at The Game Awards, I won't bother watching any of the streams for this. I'll just checkout out a few game trailers on Youtube after they're uploaded there.

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[Exclusive] Xbox Reaches Agreement With Batman: Arkham Trilogy Creators For A New AAA Game

Ex-Rocksteady directors' Hundred Star is collaborating with Xbox Game Studios Publishing for its first-ever AAA game.

Lightning7711h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Highly doubt it'll be an actual Batman game that IP belongs to WB Games along with other DC property.

They're making an action adventure game. IMO I think it needs to be another Marvel game despite MS already have Blade as that action Marvel game. Dead Pool? Punisher?

Realistically it'll probably be a new IP entirely.

The_Hooligan10h ago

I agree with you. I think I'll be a brand new IP. Now it could be a superhero themed, kind of like infamous. Speaking of which, Suckerpunch needs to make one after Ghost 2.

neutralgamer199210h ago

would love a infamous collection for ps5/pc

Lightning779h ago

I definitely think it'll be super hero themed game 100%. Something MS needs in their portfolio.

ThinkThink7h ago

Please, no more super hero games.

PhillyDonJawn7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Dead Pool or Punisher would be amazing!!!
Don't tease me like that man lol. I see them making a new IP that's like an arkham knight clone

Dirty_Lemons3h ago

I loved the old Punisher game back in the day. Those executions never got old.

porkChop2h ago

I don't think it needs to be Marvel. It needs to be a totally new IP. That's what Rocksteady should have done after Arkham City. They've pigeonholed themselves as DC devs.

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MIDGETonSTILTS1710h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I hope these devs needed support to start/finish (like Stalker 2), vs are basically done with the game but wanted to secure an exclusivity-bonus because they know Xbox needs a system seller (like Titanfall).

It’s a bit strange that they’d rather invest in this game than Tangoworks’ TWO canceled projects; or just trust a single dev from their existing massive stable of talent to emerge with a system-seller themselves anytime soon.

Either way, it is just cool that we’ll likely get a new IP from the geniuses behind the Arkham Trilogy. I wonder how creative they’ll get now that they aren’t married to an established franchise.

darthv7210h ago

This is about the former co-founders of Rocksteady and their new studio. So naturally it makes people think its Batman related with the way its worded, even though its not.

-Foxtrot9h ago

Exclusive? Sure

This year alone Microsoft has changed their plans so much with Xbox regarding multiplatform releases as they step closer to just being a full blown third party publisher and it's only been 4-5 months, imagine where we'll be once this game is finished. It will be a completely different landscape.

ThinkThink7h ago

I don't think MS will ever go completely full 3rd party with all of their games. I can see them looking towards expanding their own mobile store and moving into Mac as ways of expanding. I'm sure ms will bring more exclusives over to ps and nintendo, but I don't think it'll be as many games as you think it will. I hope I'm wrong.

Lightning776h ago

The ever contradictions thoughts and actions of MS definitely says otherwise MS changed up so much on the past 6 months of the year I lost count.

Though I'm more declined to believe they also won't go full 3rd party also.

But.

This year they're having Renaissance a super bowl of gaming with Gamepass this year. BO6, older ABK games, Avowed, Indy and other 3rd party exclusives all to grow and expand gamepass. If these games don't grow the service or grow only a little bit. Then you can fully expect MS to hit the red button and put everything everywhere. Satya will have full Xbox take over doing what he wants from that point on next year.

It's up to Xbox to advertise these games and gamepass in the next 6 months or so get the word out.

Profchaos6h ago

The more the news evolves the more I'm inclined to believe we will see MS embrace full third party status but not call it third party in their word soup ways.

It will be Xbox everywhere plays best on a Xbox.

Next gen Xbox is rumoured to be a reference design similar to the 3d0 where any company can make and sell it.

If you're offloading hardware costs to a third party yet still profiting from the games then you've cut out losses on the hardware you still have a store front that users can use and still make a 30 percent cut on that.

Your games sell for a profit on PS and Nintendo platforms and on Xbox reference hardware along with PC

You lose .kney on DLC and games sold on a competitor storefront they are seemingly already comfortable with this.

The ms bean counters are coming for the ROI that was promised they don't care if they kill the brand as it stands Xbox was never a profitable business it was always just done for reputation

PhillyDonJawn6h ago

@Lightning the would end the console then. No one would buy Xbox over PS at that point cause now you get both with just a PS. If GP flop for them, Logically, rolling back on GP would be the smarter than to do. No more day 1 title. Less quality titles. They'd lose subs but people would go back to buying the games.

Lightning774h ago

@Philly They could scale back gamepass put Indies only, AAA 1st party games coming 4 to 6 months from release. The thing is MS will have to tell their fans to buy their games again and that's gonna take years and years to condition them to buy games again. MS will lose money from that also. They'll lose out on gamepass revenue, lose out on games sales because their fans don't buy as many games anymore.

I can't see them scaling back or axing gamepass it does make them allot of money, they just want more money from it. They're not gonna condition their fans to start buying games either.

As I said they'll go full 3rd party and yes you ate right, if they do that then there would be no reason to buy the next Xbox. I know j won't be, you better hope the next 6 months they advertise the games and GP there little hearts out because this could be it.

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purple1018h ago

Spawn (as well as master chief) are the only characters I associate with Xbox. Are there more I can’t remember?

rlow18h ago

Gears is another big game one.

purple1018h ago

Yeh big game, do you know the name of the lead character. Or team of lead characters. I don’t

rlow17h ago

Marcus, Dom, Cole Train. And I can’t remember the fourth.

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Also the chick from gears 5 seems to pop up on all their modern advertising I can't remember her name either.

Cars also feature heavily in a Xbox ad it's always master chief front and centre with cars and maybe a gears character hanging around

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 18h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.