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An Interview With Jason Graves, Composer On Friday The 13th | Rely on Horror

Rely on Horror writes: "Horror games owe lots to their soundtrack. We talked to Jason Graves, composer on Friday the 13th, Until Dawn, and Dead Space, to find out why."

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Until Dawn Remake vs. Original Comparison Highlights If This Is A Worthy Upgrade

Until Dawn is getting a remake which always felt like an odd choice since the original still looks pretty good, is it worth the upgrade?

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CrimsonWing691d 20h ago

Not really… they just couldn’t be bothered with making a sequel? This original is already available on PS5 and for the cheap. This just seems kind of pointless and I’m not seeing anything that screams next-gen remake to me, but if you’re a fan of it and looking forward to this, more power to ya’

Amplitude1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Dark Pictures Anthology games didn't exactly sell well, but they were much lower budget games that reused assets all over the place.

Its probably safe to assume that this remake - which will also presumably reuse but improve assets from the original - is a test bed to see if a high budget sequel is actually financially viable. Also brings in people who never played it when it released 9 years ago.

I'm just spit balling but it makes sense.
Ill be buying it like I do all their games haha obviously I'd rather a sequel but I totally get it.

outsider16241d 7h ago

And of all the remakes we could have gotten, they choose this one.

MetroidFREAK211d 16h ago

As someone who hasn't played this before, I'll be snagging it on PS5

anast1d ago

It's a good game and it's definitely worth a purchase if you haven't played it before.

MrBaskerville20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

It's good, The Quarry is worth a look while you wait.

MetroidFREAK2118h ago

I have that on disc for PS5. That's on my backlog

Iceball20001d 16h ago

Is there an upgrade fee for this or no? Like how TLoU had and Uncharted.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

Even if their was. Actual work was put into this. Companies that give it away were doing it and thanked for it. Or they were doing it cause they fked up really bad Ala cyberpunk

Also you have to be mistaken cause the last of us is a straight up remake, mad work was put into that. You also didn't have buy it or anything to play the ps4 version. It was also one of the best games for awhile and it's certainly better then anything the other high end console has put out in a very long time if ever

Crows901d 1h ago

What other high end console?

anast1d ago

What do you do for a living? What ever it is I want you to do it for free.

cthulhucultist1d 2h ago

Having played all Dark Pictures Anthology games as well as the Quarry, I am definitely not skipping this one.

I would even buy the original if it was on PC, since I only have a Steamdeck and a Switch.

I remember that it got surprisingly good reviewed and the Quarry has loosely the same premise as Until Dawn (not exactly the same but similar setting)

on_line_forever23h ago

Wait a minute why they use sun lights in horror game ? What's wrong with those developers ?

Even in Silent hill 2 remake bloober team use sun lights in hospital reception WHY ? The whole city is covered with fog

Really bad developers we have these days

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff21832d ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan2d ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin2d ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_2d ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan1d 21h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff21831d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad1d 9h ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay87011d 8h ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

MrNinosan1d 3h ago

@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.

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just_looken1d 4h ago

I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.

Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.

Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.

-Foxtrot2d ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink2d ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff21831d 19h ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla2d ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5232d ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin2d ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-642d ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga1d 22h ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay87011d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps2d ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla2d ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek1d 21h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff21831d 19h ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb2d ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip2d ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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Single-Player Titles God Of War Ragnarok & Until Dawn Will Require PSN Account On PC

Sony Interactive Entertainment's upcoming single-player PC games like God of War Ragnarok and Until Dawn will require a PSN account.

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PrinceOfAnger3d ago

Sony will lose support and money from 177 countries that support Steam but do not support PSN!
Tell me about stupidity, I'll tell you Sony.
Its concern is to increase the number of PSN subscribers, at the expense of profit and
More sales for their games from 177 countries.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Thing is it’s free to create an account (for pc players)

So they don’t need essential / extra / premium tiers, there is literally no good reason. Stupid but I don’t know the ins-and-outs but I can imagine it’s just a dumb reason

Ohh actually maybe it’s to combat piracy, so the game will not launch unless you have psn, then Sonys server end would validate if it’s a real copy or a cracked one

That could be it

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Ding ding ding. Your edit brought the answer. Lol

Sony wants to validate their games on PC so that they know who's legit and who stole them. I understand Prince in that we have too many accounts we have to make. And it's a slippery slope. Like ported Xbox games to PlayStation will require a Microsoft account. Besides the already Ubisoft accounts and Epic accounts. Hard to keep up with all these names and passwords.

But you figured it out.

blacktiger2d ago

so you are saying it's another DRM? And is it always online? even though it's single player offline game?

darthv722d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Its free... sure. The main issue are the countries that are not on the list to select when creating the account. And I don't think Sony allows nearest neighbor, where you pick the one closest to you that is supported. People can obviously pick any country they want from the list, but that then becomes saddled to them going forward. Personally my country is supported, and I have not felt the need to change it so I dont even know if you can after the fact. If I were to move to an unsupported country... would the games even work if it detects me playing it from one when I am registered in the other?

This all stems from the whole Helldivers fiasco. Countries that support steam, and let them buy it and play only to have them cut off because their country was not officially part of the PSN account creation which was later enforced after the fact.

Andrew3362d ago

I believe every Sony single player game has leaked online the same day it releases. Needing a psn account to play the game legally isn't gonna change the fact it'll be pirated same day.

Jingsing2d ago

They'll find out sadly that most of their games are pirated, Ghosts of Tsushima over 500k people downloading it not on Steam, It sold below 70k on Steam.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Black tiger, we all know games are stolen all the time on PC. Stolen to play. Stolen and emulated to play older system's games. The only way to stop it or slow it down is to have some type of security measure.

They're businesses. They have every right to protect what they make. PC gamers don't have ANY right to steal it.

There's a grey area when it comes to games purchased and the companies make your purchase unplayable through updates it closing servers. And we decide to take measures in our own hands to continue playing what was rightfully purchased by downloading it modding the code. But it's still theft.

Some gamers don't like the measures because they want the option to steal. Not everyone does. But many on PC do. That's just the reality. You can hide from the truth. But the truth is still there.

--Onilink--2d ago

What good does it do to create an account (with fake information from another country) if the game isnt released in Steam in that country anyway?

Or are you expecting people to also have to create another steam account in another country in order to link it to the PSN account they now have to make, just to be able to play Sony games?

Its a dumb and unnecessary situation, simple as that

shinoff21832d ago

You make a good point about piracy. Still weird Sony is the only one under fire about this even though they aren't alone, ea, ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. I don't know why Sony doesn't sell in those countries, but it's their prerogative.

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ApocalypseShadow2d ago

I understand the account thing but you're way off on the subscriber thing.

just_looken2d ago

@prince

I agree and i see the defenders are here

Once again everyone you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles.

The use of programs like vpns are a banable offense to sony and like so many other companies are monitoring your chat/activity via ai bots.

You should not half to buy a game then fill out a form like your buying a gun just to play a single player game.

Every other launcher like ea/ubi/rstar/acti/blizzard/bet h You just need a email address/password acti has on some game the bs phone # crap or unless your going to buy something then yeah real info. But sony like i said you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample but that will be for psvr 4 and or ps6.

Magatsuhi2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You're full of bs. I literally just made a fake psn account in el salvador and i had no issues. All i did was google map an address and a zip code and voila, psn account. Did not need to add any personal information.

Where does it state you need ps+ to play online on steam? You're being purposefully hyperbolic and dishonest or just stupid in order to spin outrage because you hate sony for very dumb reasons.

just_looken2d ago

choo choo here comes the sony blind boys

I never said you need psplus for steam never

I also said sense 2023 again 2023

But i get it its sony they do 0 wrong

P_Bomb2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“…you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample”

Nobody wants your dna. I promise you.

badz1492d ago

"...you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles."

It's one thing to be a hater but it's another to be full of crap.

1. I have multiple accounts in 4 countries for several reasons. And making the PSN accounts is free.

2. Lose your account, you lose everything associated with that account? Wow...like every other accounts too? WTH are you on about?

Amplitude2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Though I agree with you it sucks to have to create an account - literally not a single thing that you said was true.

-You don't need real information.
-You can have any number of accounts.
-Its rare to lose a PSN account, but the game is still tied to Steam no matter how you slice it. Once you have it, your game can't be taken away by anybody but Valve.
-You won't be banned for playing a single player game with a VPN on.
--There is no form or ID required.
-The Sony "form" requires the exact same details as Steam. It also doesn't need a phone number.

There are very real reasons why the account requirement is bs but every other comment covers that.

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StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Who gives a shit, they don’t want to sign up, they can always play other games and sign up to their requirements instead. You want PSN games, you sign up to PSN. Same applies to every other platform.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Kinda wild how Sony and MS care more about accounts/users than actual sales

TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Sony fans don't care... They don't get the concept of why this screws gamrers over. Sony fans only know how to shill for the Corp.

fr0sty2d ago

We're too busy playing these games on our playstations to care.

jznrpg1d 22h ago

This is extra money for them.

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CrimsonWing692d ago

Are we always going to get news articles on this? Yes, any Sony game on PC now requires a PSN and won’t be accessible to regions that don’t have the PSN infrastructure.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Exactly ots not like.on PC we already have so many different launchers.

Rockstar
Ubi
Epic
Battlenet
Steam.
GOG

What's one more and I already have a PSN account

Number1TailzFan2d ago

Meh, I mean in the 90's and early 2000's some games had built in server browsers or built in lobby/chat systems like Worms 2 and it's sequels, if not we had GameSpy or Wireplay to find online players.

Multiple launchers is kind of annoying though, TBH I would prefer just one..

just_looken2d ago

If you read the 2023 psn terms of service but this is sony so i know 90% here did not this is a pc killer.

Not only do you need real information so one account no way to make a dummy account and they need your address/real name some countries a drivers license but they also use ai to monitor you.

In there terms they are checking your ip address as the use of VPN's is against the terms and programs that cheat are also bannable but in the list they think 3rd party antivitus is cheating.

So yeah paying for god of war then filing out a form like your going to buy a gun just to play the thing to me sound's stupid but i am not a sony blindboy.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Looken

I didn't know that. It sucks and I for one will be very watchful of what I buy in the future from Playstation on PC. It's like Sony can't stay out of its own way when it comes to success of their games

hiroyukisanada2d ago

Why is this a problem? Just curious. Don't you need accounts for Steam, Xbox, Gog, Epic Games,EA, Blizzard,etc..? Why is it a problem if you need PSN?

darthv722d ago

There are close to 200 countries around the world. MS is supported in 98%, Steam 90%. Sony... less than 50%.

Grilla2d ago

You guys keep crying about these 177 3rd world countries.

CrimsonWing692d ago

How much of a % do these 177 countries equate to Sony’s overall sales by region?

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Crimson
Would you say this is more pro or anti consumer?

romulus232d ago

LOL, I saw the list of countries that aren't supported by PSN, I don't think Sony has anything to worry about with any of them. These aren't the kinds of places where game consoles and games are selling significantly enough to matter anyway. Just certain people are trying to blow this out of proportion.

Hofstaderman2d ago

Trust me in those countries its cheaper to buy a console than build or buy a pc that can run ps5 games. Taxes and import duties are a real killer for graphics cards etc.

Giga_Gaia1d 22h ago

The countries where PSN isn't supported definitely wouldn't move the needle in term of sales. In the end, they don't really matter. You can bet Sony did the math and have a lot more data than some stupid fanboys like you people.

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buffig2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@ Darthv72 Ahhh yes. All the people complaining on forums are people from Cameroon. It's definitely not people who it won't affect making a massive deal out of nothing

darthv722d ago

...doesn't affect me one bit. All I did was provide a logical answer to the question hiro asked. People disagreeing does not refute the facts presented.

just_looken2d ago

@buff

Its funny you can tell the Americans so much now

Japan is part of the list sony has banned ghost of tsumia pc version people in japan wtf? every American meh im fine with this as they give sony all ther information.

Not to mention in alot of countries that this game is supported you still have issues with getting a valid working address then the whole information that they need. I would never give sony my govt id fuck that.

staticall2d ago

IMO, because it's a dumb requirement. Steam already has DRM built-in and it's working fine. And affected games are offline singleplayer games. This requirement doesn't help the players, only Sony stats.

Does this make tbe game better? No. Does this help the player or does it improve their experience? Also no. So why is this required? Just cause. So why anyone defends this again?!

just_looken2d ago

All those compaines need a email/password that is it oh your ea account got banned well unlink that one from steam make another relink sesne the game is on steam.

Sony need You email address password first/last name home phone home address/postal proof of age location country and ip address then will monitor you 24/7. You will also need payment information on console for ps +

You can only have one psn account sense it need's your real info in some countries it needs a attached govt id.

Your psn account gets banned then all these games are dead to you and your playstaion consoles are bricked sense you need a psn account/ps + to go online/get updates etc

You can not make a new account sense it will say hey you already have that info on this account that is banned sorry gtfo.

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truthBombs2d ago

MAUs is clearly just as important to Sony.

I say make signing into PSN optional. Give players a reason to use it.. like the recently announced layer that lets you earn trophies.

I'm not bothered but there are countries who won't have access to the game because of this.

DustMan2d ago

Oh noooooo! A common business practice! Still buying day one lol.

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