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Bungie are removing a Destiny 2 gauntlet that “shares elements with a hate symbol”

Bungie have just revealed that they are removing a gauntlet from Destiny 2 that “shares elements with a hate symbol.” They say the similarities are not intentional, and they are working on the removal as quickly as they’re able.

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Kribwalker2455d ago

It is so unbelievably simmilar I find it hard they didn't make it on purpose

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KwietStorm_BLM2455d ago

I just looked up the flag, and it's pretty much a Destiny-fied version of it. This sure as hell wasn't an accident. I'll be on the lookout for artist openings at Bungie.

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GottaBjimmyb2455d ago (Edited 2455d ago )

I don't get it, what exactly is the issue, even if it was a subtle hint at KEK. KEK is a gaming culture meme/troll. Nothing AT ALL racist about it. One would assume a partially game (WOW specifically) related meme/troll would be relevant.
http://knowyourmeme.com/mem...

Zeref2455d ago

I thought this was gonna be one of those things that SJWs like to exaggerate, but goddamn this does look remarkably similar. It's definitely on purpose. But it was probably done by just one artist and it was overlooked because nobody knows Kekistan exists.

DaGR8JIBRALTAR2455d ago

Yep ....entirely too close. Somethings foul in denmark.

FlameBaitGod2455d ago

Is the kekistan flag really a symbol of hate now lmfao ?

Christopher2455d ago

If Nazis and white supremacists start to carry them...

FlameBaitGod2455d ago

"If Nazis and white supremacists start to carry them..."

Oh Jezzus Chrizzt, are Germans marching in the U.S ? Who are these Nazis preventing from speaking ? Where is this violent suppression of the opposition? Pretty sure is the left, who are destroying cities, assaulting people and preventing people from speaking, are people completely ignoring all the violence these antifa losers are causing while claiming to be about peace and love, while beating everyone who doesn't agree with them? Who is advocating for an authoritarian government ?????

This kekistan flag was made by 4chan for trolling weak SJW's, since sjw's didn't like it, its somehow a hate symbol LOL, its like these sjw's never matured mentally. They act like complete kids who scream at everyone they don't like.

FlameBaitGod2455d ago (Edited 2455d ago )

"They act like complete kids who scream at everyone they don't like."

Just in case heres this

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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But yeah, all these people are totally sane and loving people.

Gh05t2455d ago

@Christopher

So all they have to do is start carrying McDonalds flags and all the sudden McDonalds golden arches are racist and a symbol of hate?

Isnt that a little short sited and actually a HUGE problem that people cant tell the difference between a symbol of hate and a symbol that haters use. I mean all they would need to do then is start marching with the Symbol of the democratic party and all the sudden what, everyone who is a democrat is racist?

Isnt that more than a little ridiculous and could lead to worse issues?

People need to stop being this naive. And doing things like this only helps people get away with things that they shouldn't be.

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gamer78042455d ago

really.... one has 4 lines int he center the other doesn't, its also missin the other "k's" on each side, which could easily have been arrows next to a horizontal line.....

It's bungie's right to remove it, but it seems pretty far reaching.

Kribwalker2455d ago

I don't care if they remove it or not, I think it's an internet joke more then offensive, but at least be honest and not say it's accidental

DarXyde2455d ago

History lesson time (and why any white hate groups are morons if they brandish that "Kekistan" flag:

Kek is actually an Egyptian deity. The best part? He is also transgender. Two things that those groups loathe (nonwhite and transgender) are literary the foundation of this ridiculous movement. If I had to guess, they're using the pop culture context from 4chan because some guy made up an ethnicity. Allegedly, they identified as a displaced people, which is probably the context they were going for.

Regardless, it's incredibly funny watching this group of dipsticks advocate for something under false pretenses. It goes to show that you can't take these groups seriously.

Also, for anyone calling those people "Nazis", stop. Don't give them the satisfaction of associating them with a significant threat from World War II. They're not Nazis. They're just racists. The only things they have in common with real Nazis is that they're losers who happen to be white.

rainslacker2454d ago

Could be something someone saw at some point and it just made an impression without them really knowing what it was. If I saw that example they had linked in the article without an article going with it, it might stick with me in some way. Artists tend to keep those kinds of things in their minds longer too, since their brains just work like that.

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Duke192455d ago

Good on Bungie for addressing it - but not gonna lie, I had never even heard of Kekistan before

Kribwalker2455d ago

Neither had I, but I'd seen people posting that frog thing

BlindGuyMcSqueazy2455d ago

Good for Bungie for removing something that hints at a meme?

There's no limit to what people will get offended by these days.

Cmv382455d ago

Apparently you didn't read the article.

DragonKnight2455d ago

@Cmv38: I read the article and Bungie are idiots. Kek and Kekistan are memes. Nothing more. It's hilarious how the regressives label everything a hate symbol.

GottaBjimmyb2455d ago (Edited 2455d ago )

What is in the article that changes anything? KEK is a troll/meme, used in MANY different instances. It is not a racists symbol...

It seems like people are just to sensitive and lazy to actually understand what they are talking about. They see ONE racist troll post something, then suddenly it makes every use of that racist...

http://knowyourmeme.com/mem...
https://pepethefrogfaith.wo...

GrubsterBeater2455d ago

The snowflake liberals at it again, being professionally offended at anything and everything.

I'm waiting for them to start burning books. It's kinda funny that they are fighting "fascism" by being... FASCIST. Meanwhile, there is no real fascism that they are fighting.

A wise man once said "Fascism will one day come in the name of Liberalsm." Couldn't have been more right....

Duke192455d ago

I didn't bother researching it - and apparently it is just some stupid meme. That said from the responses here Im glad they removed it - Who the hell cares if it is or isnt in the game

staticall2455d ago

@BlindGuyMcSqueazy
"There's no limit to what people will get offended by these days."
Hey, that's offensive, please remove this ASAP and apologize on Twitter or else i will cry about it in my Tumblr!
Kek

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Asuka2455d ago

Its because Kekistan isnt real. Whole internet gaming community getting trolled by 4chan today

Adrian_v012455d ago

This has nothing to do with being trolled by 4chan. Fact is that the flag has been used on extremist rallies, even if that application of the flag missed the point why the flag exists. It is only logical for a company to keep it's product away from negative publicity. It's the same as promoters quitting deals with progamers who use sexist/racist etc. slurs. I find it difficult to comprehend why people can't understand this.

Even the swastika was just a harmless religious symbol before it was turned into something else.

Asuka2455d ago (Edited 2455d ago )

@Adrian

I don't agree with you. These racist or extremist or whatever you call them will use anything to spread hate. By your logic we shouldn't wear clothes or use the internet because i can guarantee both of those have been used to spread hate moreso than this "kekistan" flag.

The silliness has to stop somewhere, and by acknowledging that flying a nonexistent flag associated with no real organization was hateful whether or not it was used at a hate rally is exactly what these people want you to think. Giving these people anykind of acknowledgement is exactly what they want.

DangerousDAN2455d ago

It's their product and if they want to steer clear of anything resembling a hate group's symbol (real or not), they can, and absolutely worries me that many here are angered by its removal.

Asuka2455d ago

@Dan

100% correct. Not once have i argued against Bungie about their decision.

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DarXyde2455d ago

Trust me, the people who carry that flag with pride have no idea what they're doing. Like, at all. It doesn't mean what they think it does. I dont think Bungie should have removed it. Read up on Egyptian mythology and you'll find out why this movement this hilarious.

Kekistan is not real. It's not a thing. It's fake news. Worse than that actually: it's meme culture wrapped up in ethnic mythology.

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InKnight7s2455d ago (Edited 2455d ago )

So now they are afraid of losing fans for their own staff behaviors or whatever these toxics minds!! Pathetic. Its identical to the K itself,colors, font, and overall design and there is no different. Fire who designed it. Or else people should quit this.
Edit:
Sarcastic.

Pintheshadows2455d ago

'The ‘Kekistan’ flag is often flown in support of those groups, and in marches promoting racism and white nationalism.'

This is not true.

InKnight7s2455d ago

That descriping KKK not KKKK (kekistan) so yeah I think it is an internet "bla bla bla" thing.

Pintheshadows2455d ago

There is another flag that looks like it which some idiot journo mistook for the Kek flag.

mopground2455d ago

we re actually witnessing goerbels "if you keep repeating a lie..." in action. its pretty scary.

Christopher2455d ago

It has been at rallies promoting white nationalism.

The fact is, those they are making fun of have used it not knowing the joke and now it's associated with them.

aaronaton2455d ago

It only promotes how gullible liberals are, that was it's purpose and still is

Christopher2455d ago

Liberals are gullible because people attend rallies with racists holding up a flag...

I think people hold their attempts at Internet jokes to too high of a level and use it as a crutch to excuse when any symbol becomes associated with hate groups due to their usage by hate groups who, and here's the funny part that you blame liberals for, don't know that the people who provide the imagery are using to make fun of them.

Hint: liberals, conservatives, and anyone else do not care about Internet jokes. They care about not supporting anything that hate groups are associated with, though.

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Gh05t2454d ago

Again, if all the hate groups drove Fords would all the sudden Ford be a symbol of hate? Anyone who owns a ford would be questioned for their association with the Nazi party? If they decided to start bringing flags with the democrat party donkey on it would all the sudden every democrat be a Nazi supremacist?

Just because they bring a flag does not mean they or the public at large get to all the sudden change the meanings of things. People like you are allowing them this power and its sad. Just wait, one day I hope they start supporting something you like just to watch you try and say you arent a racist because you like it too.

I have a feeling you dont care because Kek (or whatever, I never knew this existed until this article) means nothing to you personally. But someday something you like may be associated with hate, and then what? You are willing to just let them have it? Let others just rebrand and redefine whatever they want?

Seems kind of like the coward move of rather than fight the ACTUAL Nazis you are going to fight the people who dont think its a symbol of hate and have no supremacy intentions. because its easier to get people who also hate them to buckle under.

Focus on the real issue and its the supremacists, not people here defending the actual meaning of a symbol and not willing to let others rebrand it as racist.

Christopher2454d ago (Edited 2454d ago )

Flags are signs of representation, cars are not.

Get out with stupid apologists logic.

***But someday something you like may be associated with hate,***

Not likely. I don't hold up signs or flags as symbols of who I am. Nor do I define myself by symbols or specific groups. I speak only for myself and no group speaks on behalf of me as a person.

rainslacker2454d ago

@Chris

As an American, I would hold up an American flag as representative of something about myself. However, there are people in this world that associate that flag with some vile and evil things. Does my pride as an american, and willing to accept the american flag as a symbol of my patriotism mean that I am what those people say I am?

Christopher2454d ago

***Does my pride as an american, and willing to accept the american flag as a symbol of my patriotism mean that I am what those people say I am?***

It means you accept it as part of who you are and should accept the criticism associated with it. It's easy to be a patriot when it's not your citizens being affected or bombed by the actions of those who also fly the American flag.

Gh05t2454d ago (Edited 2454d ago )

"Flags are signs of representation, cars are not. "

"Get out with stupid apologists logic."

Stupid apologist logic... or you are too short sighted to see where this is already leading.

It must be my imagination that Ultaviolet is spreading a petition to get Starbucks to pull their stores out of Trump owned buildings, because and get this STARBUCKS is supporting hate. If they dont pull out (Because contracts and business deals matter) does anyone who supports Starbucks now support hate too?

I am not apologizing for anyone, I am trying to show you that just because someone you dont like holds any symbol if someone else MAY hold the same symbol does not make them the SAME.

Just because a white nationalist group holds the Kek flag does not mean that everyone else who also holds it is a white nationalist. To start labeling them as such is a false equivalency.

So how about you get out of here with your short sighted, prejudice, "I dont define myself by symbols", false equivalency logic.

"It's easy to be a patriot when it's not your citizens being affected or bombed by the actions of those who also fly the American flag."

Is it? Is it easy to hold true to the meaning of a symbol when others abuse it, or use it for things you dont believe are right or know are wrong?

Pintheshadows2450d ago

Different flag Christopher. Sorry to say it, but in this case you are factually incorrect.

Christopher2449d ago

***Different flag Christopher. Sorry to say it, but in this case you are factually incorrect.***

I am not. It was even ironically at the MOAR this weekend. As was the Blue Lives Matter flag and some white nationalist group flags.

This isn't about what the flag was started as, it's how it has become associated with nationalist rallies without any public context. It's like Gamer Gate gaining extremely bad press because of the people who send death threats of purposefully doxx and harass women online using that as a cover. If you don't control it, the bad representation of your label or image becomes associated with what you intend to mock.

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Antifan2455d ago

Kek is a millennial libertarian group, not a far right supremacy group like the KKK.

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot072d ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda2d ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

shinoff21831d 18h ago

Right. I definitely see what a headlined from a website named windows central was trying to do though. It's cute little wordplay to help out the green box

Flewid6381d 16h ago

Are PlayStation games no longer good or worth playing once they are old?

Elda1d 16h ago

I'm guessing my comment went over your head.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning772d ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv722d ago (Edited 2d ago )

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv722d ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC2d ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno2d ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier2d ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

romulus231d 23h ago

Stockholm syndrome, maybe?

BlindMango1d 18h ago

The reason they would need to "partner with Microsoft" is simply to make a game that's part of a franchise that Microsoft owns. Meaning they're probably going to make a new Spyro game - they're still an independent studio, but are making a game in a franchise that Microsoft owns. It's kind of like Remedy partnering with Rockstar to be able to make the Max Payne remakes.

shinoff21831d 18h ago

It was probably the deal to get released from Ms

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Sciurus_vulgaris2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier2d ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn1d 23h ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

shinoff21831d 18h ago

I highly highly doubt this. Ms controls all. The guys aren't gonna be allowed to just shut something down like that without approval. No way

Elda2d ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Don't worry about my comments.

PhillyDonJawn1d 23h ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus231d 23h ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda1d 21h ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

Asplundh1d 21h ago

Crash 4 was good, so I'm hopeful.

PhillyDonJawn1d 19h ago

Hey you said that about SOT and looks like many ppl on PS is playing it. You also found bugsnax interesting ffs your opinion hold no weight lol.

Elda1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bugsnax is BS, tried it & quickly deleted it. It's a game that fits right on Gamepass. PS5 owners that are probably playing the boring SOT you could count on one hand. LMAO!!...don't try to come for me.

PhillyDonJawn1d 16h ago

So you admit bugsnax interested you enough to try? 😂 someone gotta call you out on the foolishness.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein3d ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff21833d ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear213d ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

qalpha2d ago

I'm sure Keith will be happy to hear he's a millennial journalist.

Goodguy013d ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing693d ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing693d ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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