Xbox: “We'll look back on 2016 as our tipping point”

Fresh momentum suggests that Xbox One has overcome its troubled launch

[darthv72]

2016 has been a great year for the XB1. It is a worthy companion system to have.

[GtR35olution]

Sony sold 50 million ps4s in three years and they sell 2:1 or more ps4s more than xbox one worldwide on a monthly basis, facts. Npd is just America. Things will be worse november 2017 when ps4 is $250 and $350 for pro while xbox one will be $250 and $500 for scorpio imo.

There isnt any tipping point for microsoft except that theyve only managed to outsell the ps4 in one region a few times by mere thousands which is in america. While xbox one averages about 500k a month the ps4 is doing over one million or so a month so the xbox one selling 20k more than ps4 in npds is insignificant when ps4 wins monthly 2:1 worldwide every month. The xbox one hasnt cut into the ps4s overall lead at all when their competition outsells them by half a million monthly. Its like some talking about about xbox one selling 5k more then ps4 in the UK a few times but ps4 averages 3:1 more sales worldwide in europe. Some people never talk about worldwide because it would make any xbox one tipping point talk look silly

If scorpio is like i think itll be i think itll cost $600 because of the new tech but at that price itll barely move off shelves. Im hoping scorpio will be as powerful as i want because im willing to pay the higher price for more powerful console.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Nothing you said refutes anything he said....stop being so insecure

[lastking95]

And that's relevant how?

[Thatguy-310]

Regardless of your facts one can't congratulate MS enough for turning it around with the Xbox one this year. Yea when comparing it to ps4's sales there's no competition but that's not what they're talking about. This year they truly made a lot of strides whether people like it or not.

[n4rc]

Why does everyone now think Scorpio is some crazy showcase for new tech or something and it'll cost a fortune..

It's a low-mid grade PC by today's standards.. lol.. Rx 480 is about 6tf and under 300 RETAIL right now..

edit... its only impressive for the console space and all the hardware is currently available now at an affordable price.. they are partners with AMD and wont pay anything close to retail. they also dont go into production for awhile now so it only gets cheaper..

[ShadowKnight]

🙊🤔

[christocolus]

@GtR35olution

Lol. Your post comes off as insecure. The Xbox One is still doing great just not as great as the PS4.

[obidanshinobi]

They haven't sold 50 million, they have shipped 47 million to retailers.
Also MS have the lead in Brazil as the XB1 is about half the price of the PS4 over there due to MS having a manufacturing plant tin Brazil whereas Sony get stung by Brazil's ridiculous import taxes.

I own both consoles but I love driving games and space games, Elite Dangerous is amazing, so generally use my XB1 more though I'm currently playing Dishonored 2 on the PS4 and looking forward to the Last Guardian. Having both consoles gives you the best of both worlds.

[marquisray]

It will be on my shelf i cant wait

[freshslicepizza]

it's all context. the ps2 did so well it crushed the competition into oblivion. the fact is the xbox one is still holding its own against a very well marketed product the ps4. that system is now hovering at about 50 million in just over 3 years so of course the xbox one does not appear to be doing wel in comparison but ask yourself, where is nintendo?

we all know sony fans seem to be the most apprehensive to give microsoft credit, they will even allow nintendo to fly under the radar as they point most of their negativity towards microsoft and the reason is simple, they are the most competitive to the playstation brand, not nintendo.

microsoft is also doing a much better job spreading out their titles but every time microsoft does something the critics continue to push the goalposts to something else.

[Ricegum]

They've been selling the Xbox One for less than £150 all year, and Xbox One S for around £200 with two games & extra controller.

One would hope they are selling a bit more with those kind of prices. Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all.

[Yohshida]

in germany they gave ps4 slims away for 196€, so both have those kind of deals and that system just came out. Pro is discounted 70€ and wasn't even out half a month.

[mark_parch]

@ Unreal01
yep your right how dare microsoft rip us of with those amazing prices

[christocolus]

@mark_parch

Lmao XD

[Gazondaily]

"Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all."

They must just be doing it for the lols....

[Overload]

Companies usually have a budget. If the margin tips in one area (console pricing) it will be recovered in another (game development). That is why they are selling the Xbox One so cheap, they are producing very little in house software. Since the software is selling only decently, I can't imagine they are turning much of a profit with the division.

[LastCenturyRob]

Its a worthy system regardless.

[Hoffmann]

Not really. The xbox one is more or less obsolete if you have a PC and a PS4

@bluefox absolutely agreed

[Razzer]

Yep. I would have probably bought an Xbox One by now, but with Play Anywhere......why?

[FallenAngel1984]

Even if Xbox One currently has a momentum, it's still selling slower than PlayStation 3 in the same timeframe, and the PS3 had a much more troubled launch than XO.

Just for reference, Sony's slowest selling console sold 33.71 million by the end of 2009. It remains unlikely that Microsoft's fastest selling console can beat that total by the end of 2016.

[darthv72]

while that is true... the XB1 will be MS 2nd best selling system while the PS3 will be sony's 4th (just to keep it in your perspective)

[moegooner88]

@darth wow, that shows how much work MS still has to do.

[FallenAngel1984]

@ darth

It still says a lot that Microsoft's best selling console can't sell more than Sony's worst selling console.

[n4rc]

and amazing 10/10 games wont sell close to the worst COD game... whats your point exactly?

[MRMagoo123]

@narc

what's yours first ? he's talking about consoles not games.

[freshslicepizza]

how important are those regions for you if a system doesn't sell that well? microsoft will continue to lose out on japanese niche games, so if those are appealing to you then the xbox will likely never be your choice but as far as western games the xbox competes very well in this field, much more than nintendo does.

[n4rc]

What's mine? I made it pretty clear.. and it doesn't matter if it's games, consoles or phones, the point remains the same..

Selling the most doesn't mean you are the best, it means you were most popular... It can be both as well, don't get me wrong..

But grandmother's think all game consoles are "PlayStation" and it's been Synonymous with console gaming for 20 years.. just like a game like cod, Titanfall is a better game yet won't even come remotely close.. cod is a household name and it's name alone will sell.

[Automatic79]

@Darth72

2016 has been a fantastic year. Further, not just 2016 but since launch MS has offered the best games Imo. To me its my primary console.

If you wonder why here are my reasons

Console Exclusives
Xbox Live
BC
EA Access
Controller

Next year Beam Streaming on Xbox live, smooth stream direct from Xbox live.

and this is just from a gaming perspective.

[BizarroUltraman]

Its my main console, but Ive been playing more PS4 Pro lately and have a good collection of games with Pro features. So im kicking it on that.

My Xbox One still get the most plays, plus I do more than just game on it. Its my personal hub to be honest. Espn everything on it and all my movies, Amazon Prime account, Ea Access, Netflix, HBO im good. Only time I watch my TV is when Pats or Celtics are on.

[Angeljuice]

XBox for TV, PS4 for games, it's what they were designed for after all.

I don't see why MS needs congratulations for turning anything around, they've been selling strongly from the start.
I think MS have started focusing more on the US lately, they have more control over public perception there and anything they achieve is magnified.

They haven't sold badly at all, at any point (if you don't compare them to PlayStation sales).

[SpaceRanger]

Console exclusives?? Completely subjective. And since they only had three this year, it seems like it's hardly anything to boast about.

And controller? Lol gotta find something subjective to add to that list when there isn't much else.

[Eterna1Ice]

Horizon 3, Gears 4, Quantum Break, Recore, FRU and Dead Rising 4 in a couple of days.

[MRMagoo123]

exclusives eternal not multiplats 😂😂😂

edit: I would but it's not in the dictionary....... i guess it's a made up thing to counter the fact xbone has no exclusives.

[Eterna1Ice]

Try searching the definition of a console exclusive.

[christocolus]

@Michael

And don't forget Scorpio comes out next year. I'll be getting it day one.

@Angeljuice

Why do you care?All of a sudden you are interested in Scorpio and Xbox games? Huh?

@Captainobvious

Isn't it obvious? I am not a PC gamer.

[Angeljuice]

Michael was talking about 2016, Scorpio won't be here until the arse end of 2017 (with the next wave of X1 "exclusives).

[CaptainObvious878]

Why not save your money and get a gaming pc instead.

Cheaper games, better performing games, free online, more dedicated servers. It's a no brainer.

[BizarroUltraman]

Angeljuice, was trolling the whole time. You gotta read between the lines.

[Razzer]

Use the reply link, dude.

[trooper_]

...What console exclusives?

Halo, Forza, Gears, Killer Instinct?

What about new IPs?

And how many people will use EA Access? How many will use BC? BC isn't a selling point. Exclusives are.

Microsoft still has a lot of work ahead of them after that DRM fiasco.

[BizarroUltraman]

You guys always leave off the new ips. Why? Theres others games besides Halo, Forza, Gears. Cant troll anymore if you ad those huh? And you sound so salty that you dont have those features xbox gamers are enjoying. Face it most if not all features added to Xbox are from consumer feedback. And dont forget external hard drive support and 4K blu-ray !!

[trooper_]

So what are they?
I'm waiting.

By the way, disagreeing doesn't change anything I've said because facts are facts. They still have to do a lot more if they want to at least stay relevant.

[CaptainObvious878]

The fact that you had to say 'console exclusive' instead of 'exclusive' really says it all.

[Kashima]

I don't need a console that doesn't get a support from japanese companies.

[BizarroUltraman]

Then dont get one. Its your prerogative! Bobby said so.

[obidanshinobi]

Like Scalebound ?

[Angeljuice]

One day's sunshine does not a summer make.

[BizarroUltraman]

In my opinion, the mess Xbox is in, in terms of sales. Is all Microsoft fault had nothing to do with Sony. They made some very big mistakes at E3, Kinect and price and that was nail in coffin for this gen. The Xbox is a very capable machine and does everything Microsoft said it would and more. With more stuff coming down the pipeline its on an upward trend. Im actually glad they turned around and now with this bit of momentum and can manage a great Scorpio preview at E3 or wherever they decide that would be boast well for the next console. Just keep doing their thing.

And they have a great line up of games and more coming.
Day One supporter still have the original model and a PS4 Pro. Lil Jon "YEAH".....

Most Anticipated Game: Death Stranding

[showtimefolks]

Good job competition is a good thing for us as consumers just look at the sales this year

$212 for Xbox one and ps4 with games and many AAA games under $20

Hopefully next time ms won't dig them self just a deep hole to where making a recovery is impossible

Backwards compability
Ea access

Show me are pro consumer but that came way too late sales wise to make a difference

[Chaos_Order]

Exactly. Competition is everything. The better MS does the harder Sony will work to outdo them, the harder MS will work to match Sony, the harder Nintendo will try...

This is why I always disagree when people say gaming would be better if there was just one system that played every game available. If there was no competition, there would be no need to innovate, to price competitively, to support developers in bringing them exclusives that otherwise wouldn't exist, to provide ample power, to look out for the consumer's interests etc. Plus, the gaming landscape would just be kind of boring. I for one relish having numerous different systems with different games, capabilities and advantages.

[mark_parch]

the hate towards xbox on here is crazy. the article isn't saying xbox is better than ps4 and isn't saying ps4 had a bad year its simply stating that xbox has had some success since xbox one s launched and turned things around from the terrible og xbox one launch and i agree. xbox one s is a great console and at a very good price point with great features like bc and a 4k blu ray player some people are going to enjoy it

[obidanshinobi]

Ponies are so insecure it's unreal.

Edit : when the very first comment on this article - "2016 has been a great year for the XB1. It is a worthy companion system to have." has more than double the downvotes to upvotes what else can it be ? Jealousy ?
The first reply is going on about how the PS4 has sold 50 mil, that's a lie right there, the last we know is that Sony has shipped 47 mil to retailers, and the first post never mentioned Sony at all yet the first reply is bragging about the PS4. Ponies just can't let anything positive about the XB1 slide can they ?
The PS4 is doing well and that's great, I own both consoles as I like the variety both provide, but this article is about the XB1 doing well, there is no need to shit on it just because you only have a PS4.

[Angeljuice]

Why try and perpetuate the same stupid argument for all these years?

Ponies are insecure, no Xbots are worse, Ponies, Bots, Ponies, Bots.

Shall we have another 10 years of it? Sounds like fun.

[Eterna1Ice]

It is fun, since you get to laugh your ass off at all the dummies who bother doing that in such a childish manner.

[Hoffmann]

There is no "hate against xbox" here, it is just that many people worldwide prefer the Playstation's since they are usually the better systems..and therfore sell much better and therefore² get more games.

That many people share their opinions is nothing new and not limited to N4G, you see it everywhere aside from sites like xboxhub or xboxaddicts maybe.

In fact, it is the loud minority of xbox fans that keep on saying that their prefered system is "hated" again and again.

@MrMagoo
It is a shame with the rookie guy. He seems to have a lot of motivation /energy to "fight his fights" but uses them for something dumb like spamming threads here with his idelogy and list of people he dislikes. I bet the guy could be a great blogger if he could channel his energy into something positive.

Gangsta _ Red is okay but Septic? The definition of clueless sometimes. At least he is not insulting people like a couple other guys do here often.

[MRMagoo123]

I like how people try to say it's all ps4 fanboys yet we have people like rookie (who makes about 40 accounts a day to troll cos of how childish they are) ,gangsta red and septic 😂😂. funny how you never see these guys wanting fanboys to go away, say anything to those fanboys.

I'm a pc gamer mostly but saying anything remotely negative about Xbox gets you branded as a ps4 fanboy.

I think the whole problem is the fact Xbox has never won a generation against Playstation and probably never will that makes them all so angry and sad and now Xbox is turning into a service like they thought would never happen it's even worse for them.

[mark_parch]

so your saying because somebody prefers ps4 they have to down vote anything about xbox. i mean why would anybody who prefers ps4 to xbox even click on this article?

[mark_parch]

MRMagoo123
look at all the down votes though its fucking crazy why would a ps4 fan even click on this article.

[BizarroUltraman]

Better systems is subjective....

@MRMagoo, and saying anything bad about Playstation will get you banned and labeled as a fanboy from what I gather.

[rainslacker]

Personally, I express my "hate" or criticisms, and people can think of me as a fan boy, a hater, or simply take what I have to say into consideration to form their own opinion. Intelligent people can take all forms of information and use it to form their own opinion. Trolls and extreme fan boys take it as an attack and immediately put up defenses as if changing their opinion on something is somehow a cardinal sin.

[mark_parch]

i mean how the hell has my comment got 5 dislikes. crazy

[MatrixxGT]

If you like Xbox here you will get disagrees galore. Just get used to it.

I have a X1 and a Pro but you'd think with all them sales i would have real life friends with a PS4 to play with but i don't. Everyone I know that games plays on XBL. There are many things I like and dislike about both consoles but you can't discuss that here.

[Bytor]

They use a hot woman's voice on what they believe to be a sexy sleeker smaller version of a big fat uglier previous version I would think that all of you women out there would be offended for what Microsoft is insinuating, that being a little bigger or heavier you are some how inferior to every one else.

[Night99]

It is no wonder that this year is a turning point for Xbox the Xbox One S is such a major improvement for Xbox One it corrected almost all critical points gamers had with the original Xbox One. It is way smaller, looks very good and is even despite the reduced size almost as quiet as the original Xbox One and it even has 4k bluray and HDR support. Xbox One S is a major improvement in just every aspect of the original console so really no wonder that gamers buy it in droves.

[kraenk12]

Black Friday sales in the U.K. have been down 30% compared to last year.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Selling the Xbox so cheap has really helped...Still you have to give MS credit...for a world wide niche product the Xbox does sell well....

[MRMagoo123]

it's the little engine that almost nearly sorta could.

I think it's funny tho cos I see the Sony Playstation as Average Joe's and MS xbone as global gym from dodge ball, MS have all the money in the world but still can't beat Sony no matter what they try.

[Night99]

Despite that Microsoft always was the underdog in the console market. Sony already was 10 years in the cosole market and the overtopping established market leader of 2 console generations.

If money would be the only factor to rule a market than why no one could prevent the overwhelming successe of the iPhone or why can't anyone beat them out now? Apple was by fare not the riches company at the time when the iPhone rose. And beating out an already existing established market leader is not an easy task even if you have all the money in the world, brand recognition is not something you can delete easily.

[BizarroUltraman]

Oh they beat Sony all the time!!! Don't ever make that mistake again. Sony is not on Microsofts level of making money.

Now beating Playstation is something entirely different. Playstation is usually Bruce Leroy and Xbox is Shonuff......

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

because thats when they started to sell consoles?...then Ps4's tipping point was 2013

[Armyntt]

When I've had time, I've enjoyed my experiences on both the X1 and ps4. Just because one is doing well or better does not mean the other had to be doing bad or worse.

[raymantalk1]

why tipping point? are they going to sink? lol