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Nintendo has just sent a DMCA claim to the AM2R developer personally - Nintendo is on the warpath

And here we go again. Yes, Nintendo is on the warpath again. However, this time Nintendo has sent a DMCA claim to the AM2R developer personally. So this is my (Robin Ek, TGG) take on the matter.

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Simon_the_sorcerer2828d ago

I´m not going to buy another Nintendo game or console after this bs move by them...

TGG_overlord2828d ago

That´s the vibes that I get from people on social media and via our homepage as well, Nintendo is digging their own grave.

DiscoMan2828d ago

It's a shame that they cannot embrace fan homage, but in the end, Nintendo is doing them a favor. All the effort that people put into fangames, they could just as easily create an original project and even make profit from it. So it's not all dry bones.

freshslicepizza2828d ago

nintendo will do whatever it takes to protect its intellectual property because without it there is literally no value in the company. the problem is they are not good at all with the community or the press or third party publishers. they continue to alienate themselves and the only way they will ever change is if they stop making money.

NukaCola2828d ago

Sly 4 was a fan project and Sony helped them to finish it. Great game.

WTF Nintendo?

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just-joe2828d ago

I hear this so many times by people on social media simply saying how they'll never buy Nintendo stuff ever again going on about how they're digging their own graves and here they are still standing. saying you'll boycott a company is one thing to to actually do it or say actual having to have purchased their stuff to even be considered a boycott is completely different. You can go on and on, but honestly the moment they release the new pokemon or announce some new thing, and this is all forgotten or is swept under the rug because a lot of the people who buy their games don't give a shit about business politics.

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ChickeyCantor2828d ago

> Nintendo is digging their own grave.

But hardcore gamers don't play nintendo games. So how does your claim hold any ground?

Where is your logic now?

BattleAxe2827d ago

@ Just-Joe,

News flash: Not many people bought the WiiU.

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EcoSos32828d ago

They have to do it if they dont protect their IP they could loose it.

eldingo2828d ago

That applies to trademarks and logos but not video games which fall under copyright Nintendo doesn't need to take down the fan games as if they just let them be they would still retain the copyright to the ip.

I truly do wish for once nintendo would take a note from sega just this once on this one specific idea in association with fan games and hire these people who made pokemon uranium and am2r to publish these games because they were really good and the fact that they did this just sucks this was one of the worst ways to go about it there are alternatives.

SinkingSage2828d ago

Fan games with no profit are not copyright infringement.

veicht2828d ago

I don't know that I buy that. Even if them not acting on potential infringements can be harmful I am certain there are other ways to tackle the situation such as a special use license if they actually wanted to allow it.

Stevonidas2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

@SinkingSage

AM2R is not a "fan game"; it's NINTENDO'S GAME that has been updated with NINTENDO'S ASSETS by a fan.

You cannot legally distribute content you do not own. PERIOD.

Amazing how many people can't grasp this simple fucking concept.

If you want to play Metroid 2, go buy it off the eShop.

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ChickeyCantor2828d ago

> Fan games with no profit are not copyright infringement.

Neither is Nintendo making profit of it. Considering you can confuse the game for an actual Nintendo game it isn't strange Nintendo is protecting their IP.

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EddieNX 2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

Don't see why its a big deal,you're not allowed to use other peoples IP. And I only want to play Nintendo games made by Nintendo, not sum dude in his mums basement.

This is barely even news... Funny how the haters are like ''Nintendo is dead, doomed etc because of THIS quite frankly irrelevant story.

Kryptix2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

And if these games are essentially very good enhancements of the classics, maybe even better games than Nintendo games nowadays... (When was the last amazing 2D plane Metroid game?) ...you still rather wait years and years, for something similar in the same universe...and even end up being hit by disappointment?

Wow...that's kind of a linear, shallow mentality. Kind of like a person who would rather listen to mainstream top 40 radio all day, forever when there's better stuff made by less known artists if you really look deep.

You aren't "allowed," but you can use gaming franchises. When do you see smaller ROM hack developers, flash game developers who use pixel copies of big franchises get hit by DMCA notices? Are Nintendo just afraid that maybe those people, in a smaller group, can make equal or better games? All Nintendo has to do is look the other way and pretend that they never knew there was something like this out there. Just like how they do it for small games because I bet there just isn't any money in it if those people get taken to court.

To anyone curious on how this game looked like:
https://youtu.be/_9zDzDpcc5...

That's real Metroid fan love put in with the project.

EDIT: Looking at other people's comments, it's a 50/50 thing. The best situation would of been to either hire these guys for a new 2D Nintendo made project or at least create a letter that they're glad they have fans like these, that want to work on Metroid related stuff, but they can't allow it for legal reason. Better than a blank nothing.

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EddieNX 2828d ago

Simple really, instead of calling it Metroid, i dunno, maybe call it SOMETHING ELSE and make a new character. Before you ask, no , i'm not a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon.

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OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

So a game Nintendo published on Game Boy. Metroid II being remade by someone who isn't apart of NIntendo nor contacted Nintendo using asset from GBA Metroid game.

This isn't a fan game. That straight up remake a commercial and copyrighted product. And YES Metroid II is on My Nintendo right now for 3DS Virtual Console.

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superchiller2828d ago

This really shows how out of touch Nintendo is with the gaming community. They could have taken an entirely different approach that would benefit all their dedicated fans, but instead chose a very anti-consumer approach to the matter. Disgusting.

TGG_overlord2828d ago

Exactly, and Nintendo is going to lose big time because of their bad decisions. And by the looks of it, Nintendo is going after everything and everyone at the moment...

Michiel19892828d ago

This really shows how out of touch you are with protecting your IP and the law around it. They need to do it else anyone can just release a 'metroid' game. Yes it sucks this fan project is being taken down, but Nintendo doesn't have much of a choise.

They could have collaborated with these guys but that rarely happens in the industry, maybe only valve does that :p

ChristopherJack2828d ago

You need to learn the difference between trademark & copyright.

-Foxtrot2828d ago

They literally should be embracing it

Feature a "Fan Content" page on their new console where people can upload Youtube lets play videos and also fan made games which they can send to Nintendo and if it's good enough they will appear on the page to download.

Sony and Microsoft haven't done it, could be a first

BlackIceJoe2828d ago

That is a really cool and innovative idea, but sadly that means they won't do it.

Monster_Tard2828d ago

That would be neat, but it would probably hurt sales of their virtual console games so they wouldn't do it.

LOL_WUT2827d ago

Nintendo would rather do more mobile games and Amiibo before giving us another Metroid. Now that the opportunity came up for a fan made Metroid game, Nintendo decides to shut these guys down. Damn scum! ;)

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Darkfist_Flames2828d ago

i guess after that horrible power ranger prime force sales, they went after them personally.

TGG_overlord2828d ago

I bet that they did ("The Metroid game that Nintendo wish that they have made"): http://thegg.net/reviews/am...

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iTechHeads2828d ago

It's their right to uphold and protect their IP.

TGG_overlord2828d ago

"I´m more than aware of the fact that it´s Nintendo´s IP´s so they have the legal right to do whatever they please. Even so, I still believe that Nintendo could have sorted out the “AM2R”, “Pokemon Uranium” and the Nintendo Power Online archive “situation” in a much classier way then they did."

Snookies122828d ago

Just because they have the right to do something, doesn't mean they have to do it. This was obviously a labor of love from a big fan of theirs. Yet all they see is their property being used without permission. It's one thing if someone is trying to make money off of something like this, then I could see being aggressive in taking it down. All this would have done was most likely generate more hype for any new Metroid titles that are released by Nintendo itself.

Swiftfox2828d ago

They do have to. Thanks to the way copyright law and trademark law are written out, If Nintendo slack at all in regards to their IP's they actually lose any sort of legal weight when they need to defend it if a situation does come up. Nintendo knows it's dumb, Capcom knows it's dumb, Sega knows it's dumb, Bethesda knows it's dumb-- it's all dumb but they have little choice.

eldingo2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

It's the legal right but certainly not something i consider ethical or ok taking these things down wasn't the only option they had there were alternatives they don't have to take down fan games since they fall under copyright and not trademark infringement when i look at capcom and sega letting people make fan games on the internet for their games in peace and never getting challenged in court for their ips i only really see Nintendo as a humongous fucking dick for doing this.

rocketpanda2828d ago

Meanwhile mods on the PC makes games flourish and devs embrace that. Nintendo and most of Japan is stuck in their famicon mindset whilst the most of the world have come into the 21st century. This is a company that doesn't want people to make YouTube videos of their games....unless you sign up to their partner program. They don't get it and never will and could care less about fan made projects or streamers Protect their IPs all they want, but it's ok at least they gave us Metroid Federation Force, right a spinoff nobody wanted even though fans would rather have something like this killed fan project.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

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lodossrage3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS71h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long59m ago(Edited 59m ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg38m ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni1m ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Number1TailzFan1h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor52m ago(Edited 49m ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

jambola3h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

romulus231h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody1h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

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Christopher1d 23h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d 23h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics1d 6h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher23h ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

crazyCoconuts18h ago

PS may push more kb support in the future to get more PC converts, we'll see.

Flewid63817h ago

As someone with a high end PC, I feel like the ease is on PS5. Too many PC games are a troubleshooting nightmare, which few people have the time for when all you want to do is pop in a game & play it.

Yui_Suzumiya9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I just use an Xbox controller on my laptop for everything 😆 .. I haven't used a keyboard / mouse combo for PC gaming since 1996

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LordoftheCritics21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I don't think you understand what I mean by the lack of m/kb support on PS.

Over a thousand titles have PS controller support on PC.

Not even 30 titles have m/kb support on PS5.

Once you are done with the single player title, you'll go back to playing your daily shooter/looter/mmo etc which the pc gamer has mastered with their mouse and keyboard.
Why would any pc gamer make the switch?

jznrpg13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

PC is secondary to PlayStation for them. Mouse and keyboard would affect development. Live service will have it but most single player games aren’t going to have it as PC is not the focus

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Fishy Fingers1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan1d 8h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens521d 8h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

porkChop19h ago

It just doesn't work that way though. Plenty of the best games ever made were never available on PC. That didn't make PC gamers buy consoles to play them. This kind of strategy has never worked in the past and it won't work now. It's fine for PS to hold their games back and release on PC later, but to think that will boost console sales is wishful thinking. All this will accomplish is some double dipping, which is obviously good for business.

JackBNimble19h ago(Edited 18h ago)

People aren't going to switch from pc to ps5, why would anyone do that for a game?
Most sony exclusives aren't all that to begin with, and pc has the option to upgrade what they want when they want it. Having access to some ps5 games, gamepass and steam.

Thinking this would happen is naive

outsider16241d 4h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus231d 1h ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

Yui_Suzumiya9h ago

Just like how I'm waiting for Alan Wake II to hit Steam 😆

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-Foxtrot1d 22h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows901d 4h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast1d 3h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake1d 4h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel19891d 3h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon1d 1h ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

badz14917h ago

@Walalon

Sony has been doing sales constantly on the PS Store nowadays.

jznrpg13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@Walalon Steam sales are basically the same as PS sales. I was going to buy a Steam Deck and I heard about these Steam sales but the games I was interested in were not any cheaper. Indie games were cheap and older AAA were cheap but the same can be said for PS store sales. I didn’t end up getting the Steam Deck as there weren’t any games that I wanted to play that wasn’t already on PS and prices aren’t much different

romulus231d 1h ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

jznrpg13h ago

Some of those people will consider getting a PS5 some wont. I was a PC gamer for a long time and I’m a console only gamer now. Everyone’s different.

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helicoptergirl1d 21h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan1d 21h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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ARK: Survival Ascended Premium Mods on Consoles Q&A - By 2030, Time Spent on UGC Will Be Way Bigger

ARK: Survival Ascended has introduced Premium Mods on consoles. Wccftech talked to Studio Wildcard and their partner Overwolf about the rising importance of user-generated content, especially for live service games.

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