What I Hate About Nintendo

Too kid friendly. First off, you can take the Resident Evil and Manhunt franchises and shove them up your ass. Their problems are a completely different can of worms.

There are a handful of good M rated games on Nintendo systems, emphasis necessary, but that doesn't mean they appeal to mature audiences. Look at their best selling and top rated games. They're mostly first party, rated E, sequels, and some are better on other consoles. I've owned most Nintendo consoles with the exception of the SNES, DS, Virtual Boy(shudders), and GB Advance.

The only one I feel guilty about is the SNES. Then I remember when Mortal Kombat hit consoles, Nintendo barred them from having blood or even a blood code. I'm surprised they didn't require Kano to thrust flowers in everybody's chest instead of tear their hearts out, wait he just punched them in the chest. Rare tried to abolish this kid friendly persona with Conker's Bad Fur Day and Perfect Dark but Nintendo sold them to Microsoft, presumably out of spite.

Too casual. One of their bestsellers is the dog simulator Nintendogs. It's almost like having a real puppy but you can kill it with moral ambiguity and it doesn't require real food or you to get off your fat ass to exercise it. Nintendo isn't a stranger to requiring its gamers to exercise. It's not a bad thing getting brittle, fat, and lazy gamers like myself out of our recliners.

What is bad is the utter lack of immersion these games offer. Look at Wii Boxing, it's fun, takes some energy, but loses me when I remember I don't have fists floating a foot away from my body like Rayman. Their best games might be fun but take no real skill to play and win... I'm pointing at you Mario Kart with the fucking blue shell and lightening pieces of shit....

[HighDefinition]

Handheld and Consoles.

On top of that they have lost interest in us......REAL GAMERS.

F**k all this PS3 vs. 360 sh!t, we should all be against Nintendo and what their doing to our industry.

[PS360WII]

How is making new ways to play games holding back? Isn't having the same game better looking holding us back as well? I'd say yes.

Sorry the Wii doesn't have your blood and guts games but they are found a plenty in other consoles. Why would you want all 3 consoles being precisely the same? That's a rather boring gaming world if you are a sane person.

[HighDefinition]

I don`t want all three. I just want PS3(which i have) 360 (which I had, and will get again when the PRO is $199)

Nintendo just makes me mad. The DS less than the Wii.

[PS360WII]

No problem. I can understand the hate for the Wii but I wouldn't say it's holding us back. As far as the DS goes though that is the best console out right now as far as I'm concerned :)

[Mc Fadge]

It's holding us back due to developers going for it with the high sale rate and low production costs. It's not really making them push out any great games, but rather simply push out... stuff. I mean, how many great games are there on the Wii? Mario Galaxy, Link's Crossbow Training, maybe Brawl? The rest is compiled minigames :<

Now, I'm not necessarily agreeing with this, but I'm just raising the opinion :3

[PS360WII]

Good point Mc Fadge and that does have some truth to it unfortunately. There are some diamonds in the rough that even Nintendo didn't make and there are plenty of pretty good titles as well but yes there is a lot of random crap thrown out there as well. However, if we look back on PS1/2 this is a common tale for the console that sells the most. It just takes some time for the tables to level off.

[BrotherNick]

Why don't you guys spend more money on hardcore games than the total in casual games? Maybe then you can convince the devs to make your games lol.

[Gue1]

because more than half of the population in the world is casual?

i can't believe people is actually agreeing with you BrotherNick. that is one of the most retarded comments on this article.

core gamers buy games that's why people called us core gamers in the first place. my mom wants a Wii, she hasn't care about video games until now. now imagine the millions of other mothers that are in the same position as mine. we can't compete with that...

-- another disagree. so everybody's a core gamer? core gamers are the ones buying all the Wii? don't make me laugh...

[BrotherNick]

I'm just saying, if you're really angry about it, why don't you do something about it, before you lose it. Buy those average hardcore games, go buy haze and genji and kane & lynch. ;)

[littletad]

Is remarkable though. Would we have ever been aware that games like Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton can actually entice even the most hardcore gamers? I doubt it. I absolutely love getting into these games... while I'm not playing Halo or MGS4. What we need to be complaining about is the direction by which Nintendo is really going. Getting people to play games from across the board was their first priority and tryout, now their vision is which demographic is more profitable. And that's casual.

[ChickeyCantor]

" Nintendo and what their doing to our industry."
That's the thing, the kinds like you were never "alone" in this industry.

They did not lost interest, If you are referring to good games.
THEY TAKE TIME TO MAKE.

GCN sold about 22million? And not all were bought by "core" gamers.
They lost that generation. Where were the "core" that were suppose to support them who are bashing them now?
If you count all the people who are bashing Nintendo about " they don't care about "realgamers" ", That amount would surpass GCN sell figures for sure.
Illogical is it not?

[Mini Mario]

"On top of that they have lost interest in us......REAL GAMERS.

F**k all this PS3 vs. 360 sh!t, we should all be against Nintendo and what their doing to our industry"

Like 'ps360WII' said .......

"If all three systems were the same how boring would that be>?"

So like it or not but competetion is a good thing. It determines when a consoles price will drop, what bundles they can give a away, what new things they can do to stay ahead of the pack, how often games get released, how often machines get released. How boring would it be if the only competetion were two identicle machines.

So basically what u are saying is ludarcris. Do u think about things before u post crap>?

Plus if any machine should leave the race it should be one of the two high powered machines that are ALMOST IDENTICLE. Theres like one or two games that are exclusive now...lol now thats really funny.

U guys complain about mario, zelda bla bla bla But hey at least they are EXCLUSIVE to nintendo. Thats what makes them nintendo. They have been around for over 20 years....thats why their always seems to be so many zelda, mario games. (the core mario games not sports spin offs)

How many GTA's will there b in 20 years>? How many GTA's have there been in 10 years>?

[sumfood4u]

He misses her Breast Milk an still a Cry Baby.

[Product]

"F**k all this PS3 vs. 360 sh!t, we should all be against Nintendo and what their doing to our industry."
What exactly are they doing to our industry?
funny i got disagrees from a question didnt know that was possible.

[nieto]

they are stealing sales from great games with crappy games.

that means less money to make games like Gear of War or Metal Gear and more to make games like Cooking Mama or Wii sport.

[poopsack]

encouraging devs to make minigame fest after mini game fest. obligating you to buy periferals to play new games, motion plus- it comes with wii sports resort but what about your friends? thats one wiimote ($50) one nunchuck ($20) and one motion plus attachment ($10 to $20)

[BrotherNick]

Are you telling me people make decisions between Carnival Games and Gears of War? That's nonsense.

[BrotherNick]

Lol, explain to me how the person who buys carnival games instead buys gears of war. Casual games are needed to make money this gen...you can see it, and you all are getting your usual games, it's just jealousy. Hehe, I am not the one who disagreed though. If you want to help hardcore gaming, buy those crappy ones like haze. I bet they'll make a casual game to recoup from their losses.

[PS360WII]

haha no that disagree proves you don't know what you are talking about. So you're telling me you sat in the gaming store with Gears in one hand and Carnival Games in the other saying 'Geez why can't I just buy both of these... well might as well pick up Carnival Games'

[BrotherNick]

I know, that comparison is goddamn hilarious. I'm giving him bubbles. We need more people like him.

Edit: How are they encouraging KnaveX, they're just selling what is selling on the wii. Nintendo is not like, "Make crappy games guys!".

[Gr81]

Without Nintendo's contribution to the games industry this gen gaming as a whole would be no where near the billions $$ worth of profits that its in. Take away Nintendo's % pie and gaming is in a financial recession. And people complaining about shovelware, marketleaders always have the most shovelware games, don't blame Nintendo for poor third party offereings blame um..the third parties? They were late to the train, things will/are getting better. I'm wondering what the next Wii hater slogan will be after Wii begins to receive AAA third party support?

[Gue1]

actually we should blame nintendo because they started the movement of casual games. before the Wii launch every company was betting on PS3 as the king in this gen again and there's some articles here (n4g) talking about that but then the Wii came and it made a lot of money with games that don't require a huge budget to make and a lot of more third party's fallowed.

the PS2 got casual games but not as much as the Wii and too say that thanks to the Wii the industry it is more profitable it is just plain stupid. what about the ps2 that has more than 100 million of consoles sold? more then the Wii right now.

[BrotherNick]

I think in general after people get tired of these games they'll go to more complex, if not it doesn't matter, it's not like they were going to get a 360 or ps3 instead. I think most of the anger is just buyer's remorse for the hardcore who thought they'd be getting hardcore games.

[Gue1]

i don't think that people would get tired of the Wii... core gamers are already tired of the Wii but casuals? that is going to be a long trip.

[BrotherNick]

How do we know...I bet the 360 price drop will bring some people casuals to the hardcore. I'm getting a 360 soon actually, I need some rpg lovin.

[Voiceofreason]

LOL think about it like this. PS3 owners are complaining because the Wii has casual games...Why? Well the ONLY logical reason is because they want those same games on PS3. They want casaul they just dont want to buy a Wii to get it.. I had to also LOL at the kid who thinks it was wrong of Nintendo to bring out a product people wanted over PS3.. Hey if you were stupid enough to think PS3 would lead anything with its price tag then you deserve to be burned.

[ChickeyCantor]

" they are stealing sales from great games with crappy games. "
Stealing? O no honey that's called business.

Also don't blame Nintendo for the shovelware rain that is caused by third party developers who did not took the Wii serious from the beginning.
But hey its feeding the industry with profits.
Thats actually healthy for your "core" games.
Did you know that?
More money means bigger projects for you =D?!

[nieto]

i don't hate nintendo, half of their games are on my list of best games ever i just hate the "Wii".

Wii = novelty, overprice, crappy games

[Mini Mario]

PPl should go and look at a target catalog of ps2 games.

Count how many crappy games there are.......well, im a psychic so im gonna tell u before u get the catalog........a BUCKET load...more than just a shovel load.

Why do ppl blame the wii for shovelware>? U must be blind or something because when i had a ps1 and ps2 i had to sort thru alot crap before i got my diamond in the rough at EBgames.

[jumboplay]

It's never been said better than it is here, regarding how kiddy the Wii is: http://www.tommyzor.com/ins... (warning: LONG)

[lowcarb]

If Nintendo ever decided to make the most powerful console then I would jump on board like there's no tomorrow. There's nothing I hate about them and kind of appreciate there focus on kids simply because I don't want my children playing on a PS3 or 360.

[Homicide]

I hate 90% of the games on the Wii. Thanks a lot 3rd party shovelware.

[qwertyuiopasdfghjkl]

The Wii is a toy.

The PS3 is an entertainment hub.

The 360 is an entertainment hub that breaks.

[forum_crawler]

Wii = toy.
PS3 = toy.
360 = toy.

That would be more accurate. The only difference is that the PS3 will play Blu-Rays, but you know what, I will take my Blu-Ray player (not a PS3) any day over the PS3 for my entertainment needs any day.

Sorry, but if you take a gaming console as anything other than a toy, then you are mistaken.

[NowGen]

yes, but my ps360 are toys that can crush that baby rattler toy of a wii.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Did he diss Resident Evil???

I agree with him otherwise, but Resident Evil ROCKS!!!

Nintendo has failed us as gamers, but they aren't in this to make games for games...they're in it to make games for consumers who will buy them and give the employees at Nintendo more money to feed their families...

Nintendo has never been a "gaming" company. They've always looked for the quickest way to make a buck. They started out making paper clips and got into gaming when they realized Atari wasn't doing CRAP with the industry. They knew they could steal the show. The same goes for the Wii. People like the plug 'n play concept, but plug 'n play never got it right. All Nintendo had to do was make the controller a bit more responsive and slap the names "Zelda" and "Mario" on everything...

GENIUS!!!

[deno]

Yeah nintendo has never been a real gaming company. Are you crazy, it's because of nintendo we had sega ,playstation and xbox. Nintendo has released most of the best games ever. Donkey kong, supermario, metroid, metal gear solid series on original nintendo. If it wasn't for nintendo metalgear series would have never made it to playstation and also finaly fantasy. Same goes for capcom games and konami games and rare games. Leon you like resident evil right? well if capcom never had a home on the original nintendo their probably would not have been a capcom company. In other words your resident evil game would not exist!!!!

[Jimmy the Greek]

i was never much of a fan of the poor dialog, story, or controls. I'll give RE credit for having pants wetting environments.

[Main_Street_Saint]

Nintendo Company Ltd. (任天堂株式会社, Nintendō Kabushiki kaisha?) is a multinational corporation headquartered in Kyoto, Japan founded on September 23, 1889[1] by Fusajiro Yamauchi to produce handmade hanafuda cards.[3] In the mid-twentieth century, the company tried several small niche businesses, such as a love hotel and a taxi company.[4] Over time, it became a video game company, growing into one of the most powerful in the industry and Japan’s third most valuable listed company with a market value of more than US$85 billion.[5] In 2007 Nintendo ranked 10th on the list of largest software companies in the world.[6] Aside from video games, Nintendo is also the majority owner of the Seattle Mariners, a Major League Baseball team in Seattle, Washington. According to Nintendo's Touch! Generations website, the name "Nintendo" translated from Japanese to English means "Leave luck to Heaven."[7] As of July 15, 2008, Nintendo has sold over 460 million hardware units and over 2.7 billion video games.[8]

--Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

At some point they may have did office supply stint but they have always made playing cards.

[Main_Street_Saint]

Nintendo Company Ltd. (任天堂株式会社, Nintendō Kabushiki kaisha?) is a multinational corporation headquartered in Kyoto, Japan founded on September 23, 1889[1] by Fusajiro Yamauchi to produce handmade hanafuda cards.[3] In the mid-twentieth century, the company tried several small niche businesses, such as a love hotel and a taxi company.[4] Over time, it became a video game company, growing into one of the most powerful in the industry and Japan’s third most valuable listed company with a market value of more than US$85 billion.[5] In 2007 Nintendo ranked 10th on the list of largest software companies in the world.[6] Aside from video games, Nintendo is also the majority owner of the Seattle Mariners, a Major League Baseball team in Seattle, Washington. According to Nintendo's Touch! Generations website, the name "Nintendo" translated from Japanese to English means "Leave luck to Heaven."[7] As of July 15, 2008, Nintendo has sold over 460 million hardware units and over 2.7 billion video games.[8]

--Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

At some point they may have did office supply stint but they have always made playing cards.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I have to admit, Wario Ware: Smooth Moves is one of the most fun games I have ever played.

I wish I still had my Wii sometimes, so I could play it.

[kingme71]

My kids go ape sh*t over Wario Smooth Moves. It's pretty neat some of the things you have to do with the Wiimote.

[Product]

"Their best games might be fun but take no real skill to play and win... I'm pointing at you Mario Kart with the blue shell and lightening pieces of ....."
hahah he must never go online and play or try to beat the ghosts.Mario Kart at its core is a very challenging game that if you dont master you will lose.You may get lucky sometimes but rarely ever does this happen online.

[Jimmy the Greek]

The ghosts only create individual competition and don't promote multi-player. It's playing against the computer and online that infuriates me about the punish-you-for-being-in-first items...

[ChickeyCantor]

If the Blue shell is bothering any one, then you were never a good Mario kart player.

If you play against people who are as good as you, the blue shell will be a "little" hinder, but not as much if you keep getting hit by every object.
Now most of the times im first when i race, and it only gets more interesting when you play against rivals.

[Si-Pie]

I agree with you sidar i to am mostly first place when playing! The blue shell doesnt annoy me on its own. Its only when I get hit by 4 (which has happened) in one race then being it slowed me down i get someone with 3 red shells that are fired at me with me being defenseless! I think mario kart does take skill to win. I have a 3 star ranking and if I wasnt skilled at it I wouldnt have it. Yes luck sometimes does come into it and yes I have bad luck i.e the 4 blue shells but even though I still came 3rd out of 12. The wii and nintendo I agree do suffer from alot of shovel ware but it does have its good games which are a laugh to play. if your a serious hardcore gamer yes I can see they wouldnt be happy with just a wii, thats why I have a 360 too but you cant deny how well the wii has sold and thats because it does appeal to casual gamers. I do think its due a price cut though!

[theusedfake]

oh thanks, jerk. lol

pretty funny though, i get pissed about
the blue shells too buddy.

[Product]

Funny how the one who wrote the article never played the n64 or gamecube.Its crazy to me when people criticize something they have never experienced fully.
nintendo games are fun.....its sad that people dont care unless there are guns and graphics.

[Gue1]

look who's talking, besides this it's a matter of perspectives.

if my comments are crap what would that means about yours? Lol get my point.
you're just hating because i'm talking bad about nintendo and as i just said in my deleted comment: "everything bad about nintendo it's nonsense".

your post just proves that i am correct again.

[BrotherNick]

Yes, in our own minds we are all correct, and unable to make mistakes.

[Jimmy the Greek]

I own both a N64 and Gamecube. It's only been lately that I've started hating Nintendo

[blackskimmer]

Why would anyone be against paying 250 dollars for 12 year old PC parts?? On top of that you get to play 8 year old games now with innacurate motion control! Its also fantastic for putting your DVD's on since it cant play them, and I really cant wait for the next round of plastic bullshit they put out, wii-fit, wii-zapper, wii-wheel, YES!

If your over 8 and bought a Wii, I feel sorry for you but then again your all part of the problem now arent you?

[Product]

"Why would anyone be against paying 250 dollars for 12 year old PC parts??"
thast funny because every console sold this gen you could say that too.
Go run an hd game on a new computer then play ps3 and tell me which one looks better.

[BrotherNick]

Haha so true...they're worlds apart.

[alle28]

Nintendo is not true gaming anymore

[ReubenSala]

I was going to buy the Wii the other day but I'd only have like 3 games for it, something Mario, something Zelda and possibly something Metroid. Other than, their third party games are terrible and make me sick. So instead I bought a SNES, and can't wait to play it soon as it gets here, at least that has games that don't suck.

[PS360WII]

You guys seem to paint a scary picture... least how I read into it. Sounds like in your world you want a $2000 gaming console that re-releases about 5 games every 3 months because that's what "real gamers" play.

Now don't say Wii started the casual gaming when that was around back in the atari days. Just back then those casual games turned into hardcore games later on. Plus like I said a bit back PS1 and PS2 had it's share of more shovelware than the Wii has.

[Allowen]

Ok ok that this generation is not the best from Nintendo to the fans and loyal hardcore games but still both DS/Wii have some real uber fun games that totaly destroys many PS3/PSP games.

I own both next gen console and portable vgs from Nintendo/Sony and I got to say that on the past 3 months so far I am having much more fun with my Wii and my Ps3 is gathering dust.

Maybe this happened to me since I did not like GTA4 and MGS4 for the Ps3 when a Zelda,MG and a Metroid Prime 3 totaly owns any(90%) Ps3 game.
Realy,I got a MGS4 and it is gor me not even half of what ppl says it is while most of the hardcore games on the Wii are eve better then what reviews says.

[Mini Mario]

I played GTA 4 all weekend and i came out really disapointed. I couldnt believe it. Mainly because all the fanboys on here hyped it so much i thought the graphics would blow me away....but they really didnt. I guess im just used to my much much more superior PC grahics.

[sajj316]

This is why I don't like the Wii ...

They make a system with Xbox-equivalent specs and a motion controller and create games with existing franchises

1. Motion controlled Mario
2. Motion controlled Zelda
3. Motion controlled Metroid

Sales are great ...

Wii Sports sells like crazy

Then they introduce Wii motion plus and Wii Resort. I wonder whats next

1. Motion+ controlled Mario
2. Motion+ controlled Zelda
3. Motion+ controlled Metroid

Then what? I agree that the Wii was fresh but for how long on that outdated hardware? It would have been great if the Wii had next gen system specs along with next gen controls.

The Wii does not cost $250.00 to make and it sure is NOT worth $250.00 to buy!

[ChickeyCantor]

"Then what?"
I bet you also said that in the first year of bashing the Wii.

"they already have mario/zelda/Metroid out, then what"
Something allong these lines.

I have never heard so much repetition in a generation >_>

[Product]

next gen controls?
i thought for a second you were being sarcastic,but ill agree with you motion and touch(good call) will be something they look into next gen.
Its funny actually because nowadays not one great selling phone doesnt come with a touch screen.

[sajj316]

yup, I said next gen controls. Motion is the next logical step in peripheral control. Many have tried, but Nintendo has succeeded in making it work. You will see motion and touch being a fixed aspect of the next generation of consoles.

[PS360WII]

Yes you were saying that motion controls were next gen just not the insides :)

The only problem I have is that in the Wii/DS section the only stories that get high comment volume are the ones saying how it's going down the tube/sells because it's cheap/damning the hardcore. Yes it doesn't have as big collection of 'kill you in the face' type games but it still has many games that are worthy of the long time gamer. Noticed I said long time gamer? That's because casual and hardcore are the same people!

In the end all that matters is what type of games you yourself want to play. So sure if you don't want to play the games found on Wii you won't like it. End of story but that doesn't mean it's killing the industry of games you enjoy for it's found somewhere else. Which is why there are three very competitive consoles out right now that feed the needs of many different type of gamers.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it :)

[kenshin22up]

Like Reggie said, why should core gamers be worried, you get Animal crossing. LOL

[CaptainHowdy]

for a NINTENDO topic!!!!! Just browsing, carry on.

[kesvalk]

another one of these Articles!?

i am too tired to read this one too...
i think i will just ignore this articles from now on...

[Duraji]

The major problem I have with the Wii is that it promised a gaming revolution that we'd all be excited for when playing the games. Instead, the games are simpler, watered down, obviously very cheap to make (don't tell me that Wii Music will cost more than six digits to make), and barely any actual lasting gameplay at all.

Yes, this "revolution" has ushered in the older folks and other nongamers, but the gamers are left out now.

At least the DS proved not to be gimmicky with the touch screen just a year or so after launch, while the Wii still hasn't convinced me that motion controls have made any of its games better. The best games on the system are GameCube ports and classic controller set-ups with little or no "revolutionary" control.

[PS360WII]

Well I can't look at FPS the same way after playing some on the Wii. I'm looking forward to the games coming out that'll use the balance board as well. Elebits was a quick game but gave me a feeling I was acutally playing in a 3D world. Zack & Wiki had me doing a lot of oddities to solve the lay of the land with motion controls. Plus you are right they brought in a crazy amount of new gamers. That's something of a revolution right there. Just how you look at it I suppose

[Gr81]

First off to ppl who believe Nintendo created "casual" games you must be very short sighted or..young. I'd like anyone to try to attempt to define hardcore or casual games. You can't; not in any definitive way atleast.

These articles are becoming more frequent and even less thought out. Again we have a person who hasn't owned a Nintendo system since the SNES but is going to tell you why he doesn't like Nintendo and the Wii. Some dude on a playstation fansite did the same thing last week didn't he?

Its quite simple, look at the DS, remember all of the things said about it early on? it is a gimmick, graphics suck (compared to psp, no games, casual crap, How many ppl claimed "PSP will destory the DS because..." fill in the blank. PSP got its ass kicked even with its multiple features and more powerful processor.
Now look at the Wii, is it not feeling like deja vu? It is destroying the HD consoles saleswise month in and month out, basically year in and year out now. People can b!tch and moan and complain about Nintendo all they want, but it doesn't change the fact that Wii is the new market leader and is the DS of the home consoles.

[Toixer]

They focus on different kinds of games. More party and fun like. I enjoyed the Game Cube last gen. But it was so sad, when they suddently stopped supporting the console too soon. Sony on the other hand still support the ps2. So that's what I really dislike about Nintendo.

[Mini Mario]

Nintendo stoped supporting it because people stopped buying it. Pretty simple math.

[ApocalypseShadow]

nintendo was NEVER a hardcore company to begin with.you can cry,b!tch and moan about nintendo not catering to you.but the truth WAS and IS in your faces the whole time.

i'm one of the few that started gaming when it all started.and that's not with NES.i started with a pong system and then atari.and went from there.those who are in their thirties like me.....

"tell me what was the biggest,BIGGEST games that took the world by storm?"

if you answered:

1)pac man-took the world by storm(tvs shows,lunch boxes,t-shirts,dances,etc.)it was bigger than halo ever was.

2)ms pac man-same thing.but not only that,ms pac man brought in "WOMEN" to play games even more.

3)tetris-anyone who remembers tetris blowing up will know what i'm talking about here.it was the rage and sold with every gameboy.major hit.

mario,sonic,zelda,dig dug.games like these were not hardcore.the hardcore kept playing to get the most points,but these games were not hardcore games.every major hit was a casual game that you could play and walk away.old people played,young people played.EVERYONE played.

it's the same now.you were never nintendo's target.sure they had what "YOU" considered harcore games,but in reality,they wanted simple games everyone could play.it's why they kept their systems simple.and then they would resell you the same tech.

GBA-is basically an SNES repackaged
gameboy color-is basically an NES repackaged
nintendo DS-basically a N64 repackaged
wii-yup,you guessed it,a gamecube repackaged

everything is new again in nintendo's eyes.just made smaller and a new way to play the same things.think of nintendo as the "DISNEY" of videogames.their target:

anyone that is young are want to feel "YOUNG" again.

and this is coming from a person who loves,contra,mega man,castlevania,gunstar heroes,DMC1,resident evil,street fighter,vf,bionic commando,,ninja gaiden,etc.but i also play casual games.

if you were old enough,you would see what WAS and IS happening.i've moved beyond nintendo.and yes,i believe sometimes they(nintendo) hold back the industry.but that's only through "MY" eyes because i grew up and want more than just simple games.i don't read "Cat in the Hat" anymore.i read things like "Of Mice and Men.",but i'll read "Cat in the Hat" to the young and remember when i was young when i read it.

accept what nintendo is which is the DISNEY of the game industry.either you LIKE it or MOVE along.because it was never about you.the target is young and feeling young and ease of play.

apocalypse..........

[dib8rman]

Last I checked the console industry got a nice punch in the chest back in the 1980's after the PC industry wiped it out. Because back then real gamers were PC gamers and kids played consoles; now those kids grow up and Nintendo is killing the industry by marketing towards kids?

I'd be upset that kids aren't the target demographic for Sony and Microsoft, without new consumers both of those companies will become undone, specially if Nintendo gobbles them up, then no matter what the Price drop the Xbox360 will never have the same mystic that the Nintendo platform has, us Master System and NES/SNES fans know exactly what mystic I'm talking about, heck even some PSX fans. (FF7 anyone?)

[Product]

funny you say that because thats how i really think of the wii.
i think it as the new NES or SNES,where gameplay and simple yet challenging games were what it was all about.
Yea we have shovelware but really if someone wants to see just shovelware thats fine by me,ill be looking at the wii games that matter or buying a vc game.

[ChickeyCantor]

I seriously hope the next wii is called Super-Wii XD
That would be nostalgic.

[Nugan]

Here we go again, another list of ho-hum, heard-it-yesterday complaints designed to spark an all but copy-pasted console war debate in the comments section.

People don't seem to realize that the point of writing an article--even in a personal blog--is to express your own unique perspective and add something to the conversation. Regurgitating ancient opinions in the most stylistically boring manner possible brings nothing to the debate. It just incites the same monotonous flame war.

And this is just as true of complaints against the PS3 ("no good exclusives, guyz") and 360 ("Red Ring of Death burning you up, lolz?") that have been repeated ad naseum as it of these tired complaints against the Wii.

[Sitdown]

a company that in many ways has returned to the roots of gaming? A company that is introducing "casual" individuals to the market...that can potentially turn into "hardcore" gamers. We hate on a company for being a business and making moves that is conducive to their business. I wonder if the writer was offered a job by Nintendo if he would turn it down.

[Wii60Fan]

Has to have the worst named blog ever. I will not even visit his site just on principal.

[Jimmy the Greek]

i thought about calling the blog "my little pony adventures" but i figured it would have been misleading

[MadMax]

If it werent for Nintendo most of you losers wouldnt have your Gears. Dumb article and dumb people. Get a grip!

[wiizy]

it takes a loser to come up with that title.. your ps3 and xbox are loosing so you hate anything nintendo... but innovation wins loser

[Jimmy the Greek]

i hate sony and if i could kick bill gates in the nuts i would. i hit nintendo this week because i think of them as a childhood friend who changed in the sideways baseball cap designer jeans wearing way...

[Dyingduck]

...with Nintendo, why can't this occur with M$ and SONY?

[pixelsword]

That is a marketing term used by corporations to label which type of sucker they are trying to sucker.

We are all just gamers. I love Resistance, Gears, Metroid, but if I'm at work, I'll play solitaire in a hot second. My ex-girlfriend can't play games to save her life, but she'll sit-down with me and play street fighter or tekken if we are having a good time.

The only thing that drives the direction of gaming is SALES. If Gears2 or Resistance2 Or Metroid: Samus Gets her Groove Back sells 1 billion, you can almost guarantee the next wave of games will be like the one that sold one billion; just like every gen of console got more sales with more power... and how PS3 and 360 (especially) are trying to be like the casual Wii by putting out more casual games.

The only difference between the Atari Generation and the Wii Generation is that Gamers are now old enough to be grandparents where the Atari Generation only had kids, few teen, and even fewer adults. There was probably one or two Grandparent gamers, but they probably also smoked their meds.

[TheMART]

Because so many PS3 tards troll the 360 news maybe?

The Wii isn't anybody's interest anymore. You don't see fans defending the system.

THe system is dead for real gamers.

[heylo]

"PS3 tards troll the 360 news"

thats because the 360 is a piece of sh!t and so is your comment

[ShawnCollier]

I lol at how this person forgets that Sony keeps releasing new PlayStation systems (PS2/PSP/PS3) SKU's, and they remove stuff instead of just being another color choice.

And I bet this person never played Super Mario Galaxy.

Can someone tell me how the heck this got approved?

[ptmidos]

The good old days where the games were 8 and 16 bit and the Nintendo 64 ruled as best console of its time.Now...its just not the same.

[The Milkman]

I came in the battle talking Xbox 36wii. But I knew I should have said PS360. If it came to sells I would have been right. But I just dont find the Wii worth buying especialy since the price drops in the Xbox 360.

I dont play my ps3 much either.... I'm hoping home will bring more entertainment because everytime I log on PSN i feel like Im in a dead land. Xbox 360 has always been my primary console since the release. The Wii only got alot of sales because it attracted that huge crowd of non-gamers and casual. Me as a hardcore gamer I dont want all the consoles to head that direction as an entire console. I do like Nintendo for keeping their own style of family friendly though. It's complicated its like a love and hate relationship lol.

[Product]

i think its interesting how many people say they hate Nintendo.i dont care for xbox or ps3 so i never really comment or even go over to thier sites.Interesting how sony or xbox fans dont do the same.Youll never see me go over to the xbox area and just comment so i can bash ms.To each his own

[Gr81]

For ppl who hate Nintendo so much I've never seen the same people frequent Wii news so often. Especially for the negative articles, but when the vgchartz sales report comes in these same ppl ignore the Wii and talk about "PS3 beat the 360 by 5 thousand Units!" or "360 beat PS3 by 5 thousand units!" Meanwhile Wii outsells both combined by 100k and we hear nothing. Occassionally when a game is announced that would be so called "core" here these guys are again to say how the screenshots suck, or the game will suck. Like you Product, I don't post on topics that I have no interest in.

[AWBrawler]

They even attack Facebook and Myspace nintendo groups. If you don't like my choice of games, oh well!

[NanoGeekTech]

They are a different animal this generation its all about the $$$ and they've found the secret..but hey thats life..the greenbacks rule..

Everyone screams about M$ being about $$$$ which they are...Nintendo is getting away with murder....Wii is more an accessory than a game console...

$hit I need to make a game on the Wii ......spend $189.00 to make it, sell it for $19.99 have a 1000% return......who's with me!!!!!!!

[ChickeyCantor]

It's always been about the money!

Because they suddenly found a gold mine does not mean they are suddenly "now" interested in money.
They are a Company for F*ck sakes, get real!

Sony and MS are not happy about their losses in terms of money.
Why the hell would they not care about money?

Seriously what kind of deluded brain do you people have?
Is it really that impossible to understand that?

Did you know that These low budges titles make huge amounts of profits?
With this money developers can take on bigger projects, expand their studio's Take bigger risks.
All this "cheap" made money is HEALTHY for the industry.
They already loose to much because of piracy, they are actually making money. This is a GOOD thing.
(seriously don't give me that BS about games not selling on the Wii, it's debunked like lots of times, and don't link sales to "ratings" since they are not relevant to the people who buy these kind of games)

[forum_crawler]

I challenge you to develop a fully featured game for under $200 and sell it.

[Mahr]

"There are a handful of good M rated games on Nintendo systems, emphasis necessary, but that doesn't mean they appeal to mature audiences. Look at their best selling and top rated games. They're mostly first party, rated E, sequels, and some are better on other consoles."

Of course: the audience that only buys mature games is dead weight.

"[The Wii is] Not alcohol friendly."

Most incorrect statement I've ever read.

Beer + Crowd + WarioWare Smooth Moves = Ridiculously Fun Times.

"I'm Greek so naturally I have a general distrust of Italians. "

Your honesty is refreshing.

"What is bad is the utter lack of immersion these games offer. Look at Wii Boxing, it's fun, takes some energy, but loses me when I remember I don't have fists floating a foot away from my body like Rayman."

I know what you mean. The other day, I was playing Mortal Kombat and it lost me when I remembered I'm not actually a ninja.

"Though it is innovative, it certainly isn't new."

Um, those words are synonyms.

"Rare tried to abolish this kid friendly persona with Conker's Bad Fur Day and Perfect Dark but Nintendo sold them to Microsoft, presumably out of spite."

The founders of Rare sold their majority stock to Microsoft. Nintendo really didn't have much of a say in the matter.

"It seems whenever Nintendo releases a first party title there are slews of people willing to purchase and defend it with reckless abandon"

So, you hate Nintendo games because other people like them? Um, okay.

"My name is Jimmy and I'm a recovering Nintendo fanboy."

There's your problem.

[Naked-Snake]

Wii is extremely fun........................... ..............

FOR THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES.

[dan88123]

Nintendo is horrible. They have Mario and Zelda, games that give gamers good memories, and innovative systems.

[matchgrade]

I'm not a habitual Nintendo basher but everything he says is just too true. Nintendo really does like to screw around with its customers with its big bag of gimmicks and regurgitated sequels, and all they ever do is eat it right up. I honestly don't remember them INNOVATING in any of their "flagship" franchises since Super Mario 64.

I bought a DS a year ago, thought it was cool at first, but now realize that it, like most other Nintendo consoles, lacks depth and is worth nothing in the long run. Might trade it in for a PS3 game or some oranges.

[forum_crawler]

So let me guess you really like MGS4 right? especially because it isn't a sequel right?

[ShawnCollier]

I take it you never played Super Mario Galaxy?

[SmokingMonkey]

SONY's mascot is now officially;

SACKBOY and SACKGIRL

That is something i love about SONY, they don't have a face like M$ and Nin do. They just have games for everyone. But Sackboy and Girl fit perfectly because of the DO anything you want nature of LBP.

<<<Italian descent, Romans built the western world, Cities like London and Paris were made by Romans, i don't hate Greeks, they made Rome's culture and birthed the Western world.

Funny, because Nintendo birthed the Gaming world and SONY built it up to what it is now, Consoles like PS1 and PS2 were made by SONY. XD

Egyptians built the ancient world like Atari built the ancient gaming world. Funny how evolution works.

[Product]

actually they promoted(in the day) crash to be their mascot.
I bet somebody below me will say something like "hey why does Nintendo keep milking franchises like Mario or Zelda"........ill tell you why because they sell.......just ask Konami with Castlevania and Metal Gear,
or Capcom with Resident Evil,Devil May Cry,Street Fighter and Megaman,
how bout Sony with its 8 Twisted Metals or Gran Turismos every console or Crash Bandicoots
How bout Square Enix with its Final Fantasy
Grand Theft Auto,Madden,Need for Speed,this list could go forever.......
or how bout the upcoming franchises of Gears,Halo,Killzone,God of War,etc.
The only reason why the upcoming franchises have not gone through more games is because the franchises arent 15 and 20 years old.......Franchises sell when they do the company milks it period..thats business.Dont blame Nintendo when every company goes with what works.

[SmokingMonkey]

then they cut em loose, to kiddy IMO. Funny; just not mature like SONY wants to lure hardcore gamers.

SackBoy&Girl fits so well because i've seen helghast sackboy's and nariko sackgirls, Snake SacKboy, Joker Sackboy (super f@ckin evil)

[TrevorPhillips]

Well at least Nintendo had resident evil 4, Zelda and many other good games on the console Nintendo is an enjoyable console love it

[thehitman]

TO NINTENDO HQ WE GO! But seriously Nintendo IS making a mockery of the gaming industry. They are 2 generations of gaming behind the rest of the world. They havent made a new idea in god knows how long. Mario milked Zelda milked I mean cmon every other game they come out with has Mario in it that in itself is pathetic. They need more games like brawl if they want to last the nxt 2 years. 100 remakes of Mario is not going to cut it.

[Jadedz]

I agree somewhat, but you gotta realize that when it comes to party games where the whole family can play, Nintendo is waaay at the top.

http://www.squidoo.com/doug...

[PirateThom]

If you haven't owned a SNES, you've missed out on the best console ever. What a shame.

[na2ru1]

Segaaa!

Mega Drive/Genesis ftw!

[kingnick]

I'm not a Nintendo hater but I simply don't like either the Wii or DS as first party Nintendo games haven't appealed to me since the N64 and third party support was dismal then and continues to be.

I had a Gamecube but I only bought it for Eternal Darkness and the Resident Evil games, there's simply nothing decent on the Wii that is dark fantasy/horror and is aimed at a more mature gamer (a remake of RE4 doesn't interest me especially since I have already passed in on GC and PC).

I really hope in future Nintendo have more luck with securing good third party titles because unless they change their focus they're never going to appeal to me but then I think they've found their target audience (casual gamers) and will run with it because it's more profitable than pumping out expensive hardcore games with high production values.

[ShawnCollier]

So you're saying "casual" games wouldn't have high production values, or a game that doesn't have hi-res graphics wouldn't either?

[Bladeslayer]

I still own chrono trigger with the box and super metroid i would of liked to own the game gamecube only for veiwtiful joe and resident evil4 but thats it.I'm a hardcore gamer and i'm really tired of seeing some F-ing plumer with A$$ crack and all going through pipe drains and crap and the whole idea of older people buying a Wii to get in shape go out and exercise for christ sake i'm not trying to sound like an A-hole but if you really think about it mostly everyone on this site grew up with games and games have come along way since Zaxxon or Phantasy Star for the Sms i mean thats our legacy i remember older people back then use to hate video games now they want to play a Wii just because its some kind of fad.How much shape can you actually get into than you can by actually lifting some weights?Nintendo is really screwed up at least Sega didn't censor their games.I remember the president of Nintendo saying he didn't really care about the graphical content of the Wii thats not a concern for them and about online capability either how backwards is that all I can say is Nintendo really let me down since after the Snes they really need to drop out of this race...

[na2ru1]

Get through ALL these years with the Gameboy? It bearly surpassed the Sega Gamegear with GBAdvanced in terms of hardware specs. Now thats definitely holding back.

Gamegear - amazing genesis level quality games
GB fat - black n green pixels. WTFFFF!!!!

And GBA had NO BACKLIGHT whilst mobile phones were surpassing it with 64,000 colours (twice as much) let alone having backlit screens. They remove the headphone jack from the GBA SP? WTF!!!!? Nintendo never took technology serious.

GBs were all to outdated every single time. and the games? pft my 16-bit genesis did a far better job delivering awesome visauls, awesome music and sound effect than the "32-bit" GBA pos.

The DS fat was hideous looking. Nintendo havent a clue how to keep things even if they acheived it previously. GBA SP sported sexy look but loses headphone jack. DS fat loses sexy look but gained enough buttons to compensate current gen demand (thats actualy f*cking amazing Ninty)

And wotsup with constant rehashes? Shouldnt it be so that you don't HAVE TO always rehash products. Finally perfected ur wonder with DS Lite after HOW MANY tries?

[Mini Mario]

"And wotsup with constant rehashes? Shouldnt it be so that you don't HAVE TO always rehash products. Finally perfected ur wonder with DS Lite after HOW MANY tries?"

hasnt sony brought out two different versions of the ps1, ps2, psp...and a million differnet ps3 versions>?

( sony brought out a smaller, better quailty ps1...called the psONE, plus all the different versions before that. they initally had really crap lasers.)

(The ps2 also has a ps2 thats have its original size. Plus the dvd players in the early mods used to stuff up and get stuck.)

(The psp was re released with a better battery, because the original one only lasted 2 hrs. I think maybe the screen was a bit bigger to, and also it came more compact...with different colours)

(The ps3 has already had a 20g model, 60 gig...that had backwards compatibility...a 40g model, and now an 80 gig...with out b/c)

......so who are u kidding mate>?

[AWBrawler]

Casuals and kids have always ruled the market.

Highest selling game ever = Mario

Highest selling Franchise ever = Pokémon

the Wii is not a threat to the market so stop saying it is. these FPS are the biggest threat. I can only imagine how pissed i'd be the day i turn on a Nintendo console and there was nothing but FPS to play.

[qohelet]

cool,
another retarded opinion article...

to all the whiners : shouldn't you all "real gamerz" be playing your n-th mature fps instead of b*tching over the internet about whose got the biggest?

[propheta]

This is pure nonsense and still it makes frontpage. Who approved this crapola?

[The Real Xan]

This post lists just a few reasons why I chose to sell my wii

[Naked-Snake]

Nintendo aren't risk takers they just look for the easiest way to make a quick buck, in the other hand look at Sony and MS, MS with it's early release for the 360 and Sony for the Blu-Ray and The Cell.

[dib8rman]

This may go over a few heads; if you don't like something, then don't buy it, others can decided if they don't like it either. When people find themselves with a steady income of money the decisions are made through a budget.

Grim truth is, we all get old and die, in fact the longer we live the more chance we have of dieing, in business terms disinterest is the same thing as death; should a consumer become disinterested then that consumer is dead. A lot of you guys in the PS2 and PSX were already dead to Nintendo, especially if you never bought a Nintendo console or never buy games on the Nintendo platforms. (Same thing applies for anything else you don't put your money to.)

But aside from the PS2 and Xbox gamers there are other people, moms, dads, grandpas, grandmas, workforce members, gym monkies and so on that have no interest in gaming, these people never put a dime in the industry outside of giving money to their son or daughter.

Now explain how grandma-buying Wiifit equates to one Gears of War staying on the shelf? How is grandma any less of a core gamer when she owns 12 games and enjoys playing the games when her grand children come by. Isn't it better than her thinking games rott your brain, or the grand children thinking that grandma is just an old bird?

If every game was Grim and Gritty then what would happen to the Millions who bought Wiifit, sounds like selfish brats just being selfish ^_^... Hardcore... more like childish, but then again Video games are toys and toys are for kids.

Simple conclusion, if you don't like it don't buy it, complaining about it just means your gut is pulling you into yourself and your insecurity is trying to gobble you up. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go play Tekken Dark Resurrection. =.=

[dro]

im never bying a nintendo product again...

PS360PSP FTW!!!!

I BOYCOUT ANYTHING NINTENDO....WII 2 CAN KISS MY A$$ AND THE DS/DS2 CAN SUCK MY D!"k (-_-)

HARDCORE GAMING FTW :)