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Infinite Amount of Concerns with the NX, PS4k, and Xbox 1.5

Poli Games hosts Dan and Joe talk about Call of Duty Infinite Warfare's
rocky announcement, Nintendo's money and NX troubles, PS4 Neo, Xbox 1.5,
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Poli_Games2949d ago

What are everyones thoughts about the Nintendo NX, PS4 Neo, and Xbox 1.5? Do you guys think that mid generational upgrades are the future of the industry?

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NapalmSanctuary2949d ago (Edited 2949d ago )

The NX isn't a midgen upgrade. The Wii U is only going to be a few months short of a proper life cycle when it releases. The others are on shaky ground. The PS4k and XB 1.5 are going to make game development more complicated and this gen is already having a hard time with bare release schedules. In contrast, NX is pretty well positioned to eat everyone's lunch if it is as dev friendly as the rumors suggest.

kneon2949d ago

Development for PS4K and Xb1.5 will be fairly straightforward. It's just a vastly simpler version of PC development in that there are two well known targets rather than thousands of possible combinations as on PC.

The NX on the other hand is likely to suffer the same fate as the Wii U. Most people just don't care about Nintendo anymore, and there is little they can do about that. It will take a lot to win the non-Nintendo crowd over, and it will take time as people will be wary about the NX becoming another Wii U.

EddieNX 2949d ago

Mid generational upgrades are silly. Should I skip the launch of gen 9 and wait for the gen 9.5 consoles???

Rude-ro2949d ago

Microsoft brings a vicious competitive tactic to the market. I am truly surprised they have not already released a new model. They do it with all of their other products. If Sony wants to stay significant, the PlayStation brand is its light. We all know Microsoft has a large amount of media in their pocket and they used it all last gen like a shiv against Sony. Play the best version only on Xbox advertisements, third party deals for exclusives or content, boasting sales numbers every month for the US etc etc...
Sony should be ready with a mid gen console because I think all of this hoopla is actually a game from Microsoft but, obviously third party games runs the market and comparing this gen to last gen, the best version of those games move more consoles.
Now, the ps4 is already more powerful and a "4K" console with a little more umph for the games would be easy to do but, however, the Xbox one is already showing its kink in the armor and Microsoft is not so great at supporting the lowest product on the totem poll. Look at all the ports to the pc... The games have issues because they are made for the Xbox one. Does Microsoft build for the Xbox one .5 and downgrade to the Xbox one or, does the .5 also get the port with a little better performance? Either way, one console negates the other.
Anyways, I am fine and I am pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft know their consumers enough to judge how much movement they would have.
Also, after last gen, it is very risky to try and be inventive with hardware for the sake of being inventive in the computer world. Sonys cell just did not do any favors for a mass market situation so, the only reason for newer console is to beef them up.
The other perk from creating a rotation is keeping all your games. No more worries about reverse compatible. Your library stays relevant continuously.

343_Guilty_Spark2949d ago

I still don't see how it's considered a mid gen upgrade if they launch 4 years from original launch.

RevXM2948d ago

Waste of time and resources.
I'd rather have a proper next gen system in a couple of years from now than a slighty more powerful version of the current boxes that were outdated long ago.

If the mid gen boxes means Im going to have to wait beyond 2018-2019 for PS5 or the next proper box Ill be most displeased...

Really logically we should have Ps5 in 2018, given that the cycle most generations have been 5 years from start of one to the next gen, and this gen is underpowered and 40% performance increase is nowhere close enough to where it needs to be.
At best the mid gen consoles are just premium current gen systems and not a means to keep this gen artificially alive. Also having two hardwares that developers must develop and optimize for is probably annoying for a lot of them. and dont get me started on all the graphics comparisons and bull that is going to spawn from having 2 Ps4's and one version that isnt properly optimized and so on. Keep it Simple for damns sake, so much for being developer friendly then.

S2Killinit2948d ago (Edited 2948d ago )

I think its a necessity of the times. Otherwise soon your iphone and tablet will have better graphics than your dedicated gaming console.

If it helps consoles survive im for it.

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Kreisen2949d ago (Edited 2949d ago )

If they want to change what consoles have always stood for then they have to go all the way. By that i mean things like my PS4 controller and headset should work just fine with PS5, backwards compatibily should be free etc.

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff21831d 19h ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan1d 5h ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin1d 3h ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_1d 2h ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan23h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff218321h ago(Edited 21h ago)

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad11h ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay870110h ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

MrNinosan5h ago

@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.

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just_looken5h ago

I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.

Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.

Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.

-Foxtrot1d 19h ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink1d 11h ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff218321h ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla1d 4h ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5231d 4h ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin1d 3h ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-641d 2h ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga1d ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay870114h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps1d 5h ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla1d 4h ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek22h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff218321h ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb1d 5h ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip1d 2h ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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Greetings from the newly minted CEO - Shams Jorjani

Operating under the username BigKahuna_AGS, Jorjani created a lengthy thread on the Helldivers subreddit to introduce himself to the community following his appointment as CEO in early May.

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Frostpunk 2 Dev Talks Creative Risks, Supply and Demand, and More

Game Rant speaks with Frostpunk 2 co-game director and design director Jakub Stokalski about everything 11 bit poured into the sequel.

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