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The Wii U gets discontinued? A personal take on the matter

There has been plenty of hearsay going on about the Wii U recently. Such as the rumor that Nintendo "might" discontinue the Wii U, and that the Wii U Legend of Zelda game will be released to the NX console instead. So this is my (David Lucas, The Gaming Ground) take on the matter.

iplay1up22983d ago (Edited 2983d ago )

Not going to happen for awhile! The Wii U has not even had a price cut yet, since it went from $349 to $299(Deluxe). Plus Nintendo announced Paper Mario. Nintendo is not going to discontinue a console they are still making games for! Derp!

Nintendo stated it is NOT true.

TGG_overlord2983d ago

Not for the last 12 months to come at least, but that´s my opinion on the matter. 299 USD? That´s a lot cheaper than the console price in EU. Well, unless they make the NX console backwards compatible that is.

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ruefrak2982d ago

Actually, Nintendo's statement was a bit more nuanced. They said the production was going to continue for the next quarter and for months after that. So technically, they could end production in December and their statement would still be true.

I don't think they can drop the price of it much further, and that's the problem. They made the system burdened with a really expensive controller that prohibits how low they can drop the price.

I think Nikkei was getting their info from Nintendo suppliers and it's completely possible that there are enough Wii Us in the chain already to last until the NX is fully available. By then, the hard core fans will have moved on.

AKR2982d ago (Edited 2982d ago )

I think one of the current reasons why the price hasn't dropped is because most of the bundles that are out right now offer 2 free games. That's a $120 value. So essentially, you're paying $179 for the hardware.

3-4-52982d ago

It will be discontinued in 2018-19

onemixedgrill2982d ago

It has not had another significant price cut because they (nintendo) probably calculated that it would not move significantly more units, and it would therefor result in that they would take a loss per product. The Wii U is, and since last year has been basically dead (after E3 2015). Paper mario, while it is a mario title, it does not look like a big hit title, and is probably a less expensive game to produce (in comparison to other a-tier nintendo titles).

Whether we like it or not, the Wii U is a failure as a consumer product.

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WrestlingNewsFan2982d ago

I do wonder if history repeats itself with Twilight Princess being the final Nintendo published Gamecube game, and now The Legend Of Zelda being the final one for Wii U.

TGG_overlord2982d ago

Could be, I thought about that this morning actually. I remember when I used to work in a retail store, people had the same thoughts back then (but with Twilight Princess).

PhoenixUp2982d ago

Are there actually people who think the Wii U will get globally discontinued before the Wii?

TGG_overlord2982d ago

Well, some obviously think like that. However, I don´t think that Nintendo will pull off an SEGA kind of move anytime soon (SEGA left the MD & X32 to dry in the sun while only focusing on the Saturn, which was an HUGE mistake).

PhoenixUp2982d ago

The Genesis/Mega Drive had lived for a full 6 years by the time the Saturn was released. The 32X was an add-on the was going to fail just for the concept for which it stood for. It released after a prior add-on the Sega CD, and right before the 5th gen started. No way it could've succeeded.

It's very unlikely Nintendo is going to discontinue a console that had been on the market for 4 years before a console that has currently been on the market for 10 years.

TGG_overlord2982d ago

Nintendo got the 16-bit market to themselves pretty much, and that was the mistake.

"SEGA’s greatest mistake of the 16-bit era wasn’t a peripheral, nor was it any game or advertising campaign. No, their greatest mistake was how the ended the generation. They launched the SEGA Saturn during a time when the Genesis was still enjoying some significant success."

PhoenixUp2982d ago (Edited 2982d ago )

There was no way the Genesis could've lasted the 4th generation as long. Donkey Kong Country's release in 1994 was the turning point of that generation that cemented SNES's position as the winner. Not to mention that newcomer Sony was launching the PlayStation in 1994 in Japan and the rest of the world in 1995.

What did you expect SEGA to do, wait out the rest of the 4th gen where Nintendo trounces them there while allowing Sony to get a headstart on them in the 5th gen? SEGA really had no choice but to launch the Saturn when it did.

Don't forget that Saturn actually succeeded in outselling PS1 in Japan from 1994 onwards until FFVII released in 1997. The real issue was just stealth launching the Saturn for the western market during E3 and the hardware that wasn't predominantly made for 3D games.

Simon_the_sorcerer2982d ago

Personally, I´m just going to wait for Nintendo´s official announcement of the NX system (specs, price, games, release date etc). As I want to know their plans for the Wii U in the future.

TGG_overlord2982d ago

Well, that´s what most of us are waiting for right now. As I have no wish to throw my money down the drain...

GordonKnight2982d ago (Edited 2982d ago )

@TGG

I don't understand your comment about no wish to throw your money down the drain...

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TGG_overlord2982d ago

@GordonKnight
I don´t own a Wii U right now, and "if" the NX console will be able to play Wii U games. Then I might skip the Wii U and buy a NX console instead.

GordonKnight2982d ago

You have waited over 3 years. Another 6 month should be a brees. I think the NX will be backwards compatible, but with only digital.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2981d ago

and when it's not. You wasted you time waiting instead of putting up with it and buy one and be a real gamer for once.

quent2982d ago

I just hope the NX(SNES2) will still be more a traditional console and not too much digital/mobile focused.

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Take-Two CEO Doesn’t Think AI Will Reduce Employment or Dev Costs; “Stupidest Thing” He’s Heard

Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick doesn't think AI will reduce employment or lower development costs, and calls it "stupidest thing" he's ever heard.

lodossrage4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They already have AI trained to do coding.......

How he thinks it's stupid is beyond me, Especially since we see it happening in real time.

CS71h ago

Company A has 300 employees and lays of 200 to replace them with AI to release the same quality game.

Company B has 300 employees and keeps all 300 but instead uses AI to release a game with dramatically larger scale, scope, complexity, short dev cycle etc.

Company B would release a dramatically better product by using humans + AI and consumers would buy the better game.

I actually agree with this concept.

Huey_My_D_Long1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is key facet. Its how the AI is used. It's actually is impressive as is and really would make an amazing addition to alot of people in their jobs, not just tech. It also has the potential for businesses to use to lay off large amounts of people, as much as they could to save money on labor. I hope too many companies don't go with the latter. But since usually companies are worried about bottom line over people...we will see some try and hopefully fail. But yeah, if its to help workers like in your company B scenario I'm totally down...Just scared Company A may be too enticing to some ceos and businesses.

Darkegg1h ago

Value of AI and value of humans will both be increased with human-AI complex. Each, by themselves, will not be independently better than the other. Whether AI will ever be independent from humans is the fear question of humans, ironically because of our doing. At this stage, most of the doing is because of humans, not because of AI. AI is doing exactly that by our design, until we have failed ourselves with an AI development that went awry. The biggest take is that humans have only ourselves to blame when things become wrong, and we have to decide what is the ultimate goal with AI we want to accomplish. It would take a person with high morals and high ethics to make right of AI. I would not want businessman to decide what AI should do or what capabilities it can have. AI should be in the hands of people with high moral fiber, or those operating on love, kindness, and compassion.

BlackOni40m ago

AI is SUPPOSED to be used as a tool, not a replacement. It's designed to do two important things artists can take advantage of immediately.

- Make the ideation/reference imaging process much quicker and easier (basically using it as a google search)
- Make mundane and time consuming tasks faster and easier so more time is spent on creation.

Unfortunately, what many have done is used it as a way to replace rather than supplement.

Number1TailzFan1h ago

You can already make your own SFX with text prompts now as well, of course it will lower development cost and time

1Victor1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

WARNING WARNING ‼️ SARCASM AHEAD
Sure Strauss and robots didn’t take jobs from car factories.
Edit:Sad thing is he believes it and unfortunately he won’t be replaced for a long time by AI

senorfartcushion3m ago(Edited 2m ago)

He doesn't, he's just lying. These people lay people off so they can get bonuses. If AI takes jobs, their bonus goes bigger and the workforce goes smaller.

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jambola3h ago

Ceo says stupid thing
Part 5837384

Zeref2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I think maybe sometimes we give people in these positions too much credit when it comes to intelligence.

romulus232h ago

As long as it doesn't effect his inflated executive salary or his ridiculous bonuses I'm sure he's fine with it.

RNTody1h ago

Hahaha yeah trust the CEO suit over the actual developers making the games. Good one.

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher2d ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d 23h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics1d 7h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher23h ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

crazyCoconuts19h ago

PS may push more kb support in the future to get more PC converts, we'll see.

Flewid63817h ago

As someone with a high end PC, I feel like the ease is on PS5. Too many PC games are a troubleshooting nightmare, which few people have the time for when all you want to do is pop in a game & play it.

Yui_Suzumiya10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I just use an Xbox controller on my laptop for everything 😆 .. I haven't used a keyboard / mouse combo for PC gaming since 1996

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LordoftheCritics22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I don't think you understand what I mean by the lack of m/kb support on PS.

Over a thousand titles have PS controller support on PC.

Not even 30 titles have m/kb support on PS5.

Once you are done with the single player title, you'll go back to playing your daily shooter/looter/mmo etc which the pc gamer has mastered with their mouse and keyboard.
Why would any pc gamer make the switch?

jznrpg14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

PC is secondary to PlayStation for them. Mouse and keyboard would affect development. Live service will have it but most single player games aren’t going to have it as PC is not the focus

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Fishy Fingers1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan1d 8h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens521d 8h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

porkChop20h ago

It just doesn't work that way though. Plenty of the best games ever made were never available on PC. That didn't make PC gamers buy consoles to play them. This kind of strategy has never worked in the past and it won't work now. It's fine for PS to hold their games back and release on PC later, but to think that will boost console sales is wishful thinking. All this will accomplish is some double dipping, which is obviously good for business.

JackBNimble19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

People aren't going to switch from pc to ps5, why would anyone do that for a game?
Most sony exclusives aren't all that to begin with, and pc has the option to upgrade what they want when they want it. Having access to some ps5 games, gamepass and steam.

Thinking this would happen is naive

outsider16241d 5h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus231d 2h ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

Yui_Suzumiya10h ago

Just like how I'm waiting for Alan Wake II to hit Steam 😆

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-Foxtrot1d 22h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows901d 5h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast1d 4h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake1d 5h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel19891d 4h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon1d 2h ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

badz14918h ago

@Walalon

Sony has been doing sales constantly on the PS Store nowadays.

jznrpg13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@Walalon Steam sales are basically the same as PS sales. I was going to buy a Steam Deck and I heard about these Steam sales but the games I was interested in were not any cheaper. Indie games were cheap and older AAA were cheap but the same can be said for PS store sales. I didn’t end up getting the Steam Deck as there weren’t any games that I wanted to play that wasn’t already on PS and prices aren’t much different

romulus231d 2h ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

jznrpg13h ago

Some of those people will consider getting a PS5 some wont. I was a PC gamer for a long time and I’m a console only gamer now. Everyone’s different.

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helicoptergirl1d 22h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan1d 22h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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