Xbox One Upcoming Driver Update Should Mean Great Things, Xbox OS Team Best In The World – Insider

"NeoGAF user and industry insider thuway revealed recently about how he's looking forward to the next update for the Xbox One’s OS in the coming weeks and that it 'should mean great things'."

[Irishguy95]

Be ****ing claim, but I don't really disagree. OS's by MS are always the best. They only compete with themselves and have their ups and downs, yet even at that their OS's are superior to their competitors. Lets just hope MS keep it up with the ****ing games this time

[2pacalypsenow]

they make a great PC OS but if it is the best team in the world why is the Xb1 OS a POS

[TearsOfARapper]

Because, frankly, both OS's at launch are POS. Both have their fair share of problems, but also potential.

[ThePope]

You own an Xbox One?

[P0werVR]

^

Because it is. It' some innovative stuff in that OS that has never been done before with those VMs.

[gaffyh]

The Xbox OS team is the best Xbox OS team in the world.

:)

[kickerz]

I like the xb1 OS, it's pretty neat. Looking forward to an update, hopefully they let me watch movies through USB... That's my main issues everything else is pretty sweet

[Docknoss]

You are oblivious to rational thought

[eferreira]

I just got an xbox one for christmas and I find it hard to navigate, not visually appealing and overall a mess. I miss the day of the blades

[JokesOnYou]

I think the OS is pretty impressive, love navigating with kinect but of course it's not perfect and we need some obvious things added in the next update like how about simply being able to see how much HD storage I have left. lol, how in the hell something so standard on any piece of electronics was omitted is just comical.

[nukeitall]

@2pac:

Why is the competitor re-using an existing OS instead of creating their own like say the PS4?

Point being, MS is the only company creating a full fledged new OS for their Xbox One. It is stable as hell, and have we forgotten how Sony's PS3 used a whopping 120 MB of RAM, only to be reduced to 48MB years later. MS Xbox 360 always had 32MB of RAM use, and do far more with less, like cross game chat and party chat.

So 48 MB RAM vs. 32 MB RAM with party chat and cross game chat.

Point being, XB1 is the first iteration, and it is darn good first iteration!

[Mystogan]

If by POS you mean Piece of Shit. I disagree.

It might be a Piece of Shit now but its still clearly less of a piece of shit than the PS4 UI. Microsoft always shines when it comes to OSs just you wait when they get this thing stable and start adding awesome features. The UI is already done.

[Haki1112]

For now the some features are missing from the OS just like the PS4 but man this OS is far from a POS. Also if people find it hard to navigate use the damn kinect! I only use my controller when I play games on the system.

[silenius]

So, If you buy an Xbox One you get the "Best OS experience"...
But what about games?

I would prefer an MS-DOS interface with awesome games rather than a spectacular OS with nothing to entertain me.

I know it's cynical thinking, but damn it...
as an Xbox 360 lover I'm still not sold to the idea of this "Xbox Juan". :/

[AndrewLB]

Even though it lacks in power, the Xbone has a great OS. You must be suffering from the condition commonly referred to as fanboyism if you think it's crap.

[TheGamingArt]

did you just refer to Windows as a superior OS... lolz

[Volkama]

What, you think it is so widely used because it is cheap?? :-/

[GodGinrai]

"did you just refer to Windows as a superior OS"

I would have to agree with him. I use windows 7 to run my DAW PC ( I work in the music industry). product and driver support form my midi gear and software instruments are second to none.

I also have a general use PC with a 560TI stuck in it and my steam account attached to it. Runs on windows 8. No complaints here, mate.

So speaking as somebody that both works and plays in windows OS..yes I agree with Irishguy *raises glass of guiness*

[Mikey32230]

What else is there?

OSX.. Linux distros?

Mobile OS's

[TheGamingArt]

Sorry, IMO any Unix system highly eclipses any Windows based system.

[TheGamingArt]

@Volkama, it's widely used because Bill Gates is a guinness when it comes to business strategy. No OS is widely used because it's 'superior' XD.

[gedapeleda]

*Tips fedora

[Mister_Dawg]

Let me guess.
You're a Linux snob?

[webeblazing]

im pretty sure people go with windows because companies support them more. everything i saw in windows 8 i seen years ago in Ubuntu but linux did it right. people go with the masses truthfully.

and the realness you are talking about companies that supporting windows why you think everyone so hyped about steamos. more support for linux.

[Eonjay]

No, it thrives because it has attached itself to the IBM architecture, the most off the shelf non propitiatory model in the industry. IBM succeeded because it didn't lock vendors out of making their own parts for its system. And most IBM PC's ship with Windows pre-installed.

[Rhythmattic]

As a response to realness.

I work In the Music/Post/Media world, and for me , Its OSX for me. My preference.

Both Logic & Protools are my go to Daw's...To point out , Logic OSX only..

As for Audio/Midi support, both OS's support a Plethora of devices, But again, like Logic, OSX is the platform Apogee natively supports...(e.g. Symphony etc ) , my choice of converters.

However, for gaming , at this point I can't go past Win7. Best OS MS has released....

My perspective.

I wish you well in your creative endeavours.

Happy New Year to All.

[Mystogan]

Linux is for nerds who like to tinker. MacOS is for people who are less intelligent than normal people. Windows is for every other human being on this earth.

[TheGamingArt]

@Mystogan

Any programmer that I've worked with that does not program in .NET or C# typically uses OSX (in very rare cases uses Linux), so it's funny how you make an arrogant false comment like that. The Android developers I know use Linux and will never even touch Windows machines for reasons that are obvious to people who dig into computer/OS architecture.

[dedicatedtogamers]

Interesting...

It'll be funny to see Xbox fans rush in here even though they've spent the last several months denouncing NeoGaf insiders like Thuway, Famousmortimer, and cBoat. And it'll be funny to see Xbox detractors rush in here and try to put down the leak.

FWIW, I prefer Windows 7 for OS. I work daily with Linux (Ubuntu/Scientific-6) and Mac OS yet I still prefer Windows 7. So I can give some credence to the claim that the OS devs are the best in the world.

[ZodTheRipper]

I somehow can't believe that you work with Linux and Mac but don't with Windows ....everybody I know has Windows at work because it's the best solution for business networks.

[dedicatedtogamers]

@ zod18

We have a dedicated Windows team, but I work on the Linux side. So while *I* don't work with Windows, my company does.

Windows has its ups and downs for business networks. If you're willing to do things exactly how Microsoft wants you to, then you're golden. So many problems with MS networks/servers can be solved by simply clicking a button.

On the other hand, if you have some custom stuff you want to do, then Windows is a nightmare. That's where Linux comes in.

[Saigon]

@dedicatedtogamers

I initially disagreed with your first argument because I believe OSX is the better OS but in reality its to each its own. You are so right about MS though. If you use MS for everything, to the T, the integration is great but as soon as you decide to step outside that box its close to a nightmare dealing with their tools. My company runs into that issue all the time. Most of our base software is MS specific or implied, however you want to look at it, but we have a lot of custom software that seem to cause massive issues every so often with our servers. Constant disconnections and fluctuating server speeds can give the best IT specialist a migraine.

Like I said before everyone has their own preference when it comes to OSs. At one point I liked Linux over Windows and at other times I liked Windows over everything. I think it truly depends on how the OS is implied for me. Right now I understand what MS was trying to do with W8 but I think it was just implied incorrectly.

[Automatic79]

Dam dude you can't quit trolling can you.

[mcstorm]

What I fond funny is the amount of people in the business industry who buy a mace run windows on it. Windows is the best and most used o's because it is open to everything and just like Io's of the mobile world everyone creates applications and drivers and hardware for it 1st and everyone else 2nd.

I tried to move away from windows a few years ago but everything was just to messy to get up and running and I want back to windows and I now have a 2012 essentials server as my media hub for home, a windows 8 laptop for work, a surface rt for home a Xbox one in my front room and a 360 in the back as well as a Xbox music pass and Skype as my messaging and web chat app I also have a lumia 925, and it all works very well together and better solution for my needs than anyone else overs out there at this moment in time.

[JokesOnYou]

Yeah dedicated it will take alot more than one positive micro article courtesy of sonys neogaf to make me think that site is anything less than a sony hive mind....hell and I dont need pro X1 news from them or any site to make me feel better about my purchase I just appreciate news whether negative or positive that doesn't have a strong fanboy odor attached to it. Same pattern make 1 pro micro statement/prediction so it somehow means all the rest of your BS rumors are true.

Yep these neogaf "insiders" are just as much full of it today as they were yesterday, for a long time actually.

[pyramidshead]

My thoughts exactly to be fair. It's interesting to see lots agreeing with Thuway now because it's positive about XB1.

Take the good and the bad, that's what makes following possible insiders interesting.

[XboxFun]

And yet Dedicated runs around this site baffled and angry that people call him DedicatedtoSony.

The only one rushing to all xbox news is you, the number one sony fanboy intent on trolling any xbox news..

[3-4-5]

So the Xbox OS team is the "best XB1 OS team "

or the best OS team ?

I'm sure they are the best "XB1 OS" team.....they are the ONLY XB1 OS team.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

OS's by Microsoft are always the best? How long, if at all, have you actually used Windows?

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Let's this be true so it can fixes flaws on XB1 Memory usuage! and let's just see i recommend

[JodyCones]

I met to disagree with you.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Driver update will hopefully also mean DX11.2 update as well, if so, we can expect great things to come from graphics soon on the X1. being able to store up to 6 GB of tiled textures when used in conjunction with DirectX 11.2 will be welcoming as Texture loading should be faster than PS4's 176gb bandwidth when that driver releases on PC and X1. Interestingly, for a normal forward renderer, 32 MB eSRAM is the exact amount of space necessary to store one 4x MSAA 32 bpp 1080p frame buffer meaning 1080p games should be the norm and up to 4x Anti Aliasing in frames after this Driver Update as well. Fingers Crossed, GAME ON!

[Kavorklestein]

DX support and optimization is THE reason why I like the XB1 the graphics capabilities on Xbox One will eventually be more than adequate for many games, IMO... if the greatness of the PC has taught us anything, let it be remembered that Direct X is one of the BIGGEST reasons why our games have graphically advanced as far as we have.
Even Devs that don't use Direct X, often use things like AA, Dynamic Lighting, and various other things that direct X has helped streamline and make relevant for years, if not more than a decade. I can't wait to see this generation get better and better than we expected for the XB1 AND PS4. and Of Course the PC too since I finally upgraded my ram to 16 GB. :)

[cfir]

@Kavorklestein
DirectX is nothing more than a set of libraries. It was created in an attempt to manage the multiple different graphics cards so that a developer could code once to a single standard and not worry about the hardware. It doesn't make graphics better. It makes it simpler/quicker to code (same as openGL), but is not as efficient as coding directly to the hardware. It hasn't advanced graphics, but has allowed smaller developers to create games faster.

[Pogmathoin]

This should be great news, but not here, maniacle wuzzies....

[andrewsqual]

"Great things", what does it add extra horsepower to the console becasue that is its number one massive problem right now and going forward is going to get worse.

[madestar]

I'm actually playing the best OS right now on the ps4

[frostypants]

"OS's by MS are always the best"

Dude...what? They have the biggest market share, but MS is known for being inconsistent at best. For every Windows 98, Windows XP, or Windows 7, there is a Windows ME, Windows Vista, or Windows 8. Don't confuse market share with OS quality.

As for console OS's, they have little in common with PC OS's. There's less variability to deal with. That said, people here are confusing user interface with the OS itself. The menu screen for the console isn't the OS.

[DarkKaine]

No they're not.
95, 98 (excluding SE), ME, and Vista all sucked.
Linux typically does a better job, the only reason why I'm on Windows is because I'm familiar with the environment and it has 3rd party support because everyone runs it.
It's like you said, there's just no competition.
Limited hardware acceleration on graphics card drivers pretty much kills it, and because the install base is so small there's no point developing for.

Hopefully steambox changes it up a bit.

[lifeisgamesok]

Driver updates are always a great thing

Performance is already great and will improve

Excited to see the unannounced games from 343, Press Play, Double Helix, Rare, Lionhead

[Deadpoolio]

Um 343 is Halo....there is no unannounced 343 game since they announced Halo 5, unless they're also making some kinect game, but chances are they are set to pump out a halo every 2 years if not sooner

[lifeisgamesok]

You're 100% wrong lol it's already been announced that they are working on another project besides Halo 5 for Xbox One

As for it being a Kinect game... You didn't learn from E3 yet I see

Wasn't Microsoft supposed to reveal a whole library of Kinect-only games? Keep dreaming

[christocolus]

@ lifesagame

Man cant wait.I always looked forward to new updates on my 360. Cant wait to get this for my xbx one. Ms truly did a great job with the 360 cant wait to see the improvements that will be made to the xbox one over its life time just like the 360.

Also i think im more hyped to see what rare and blacktusk have been working on. Phil says rare showed him some prototypes of games they were working on and he was amazed and with phil harrison and ken lob on board im expecting big things. 343 will do amazing things and blacktusk has been working closely with microsofts R&D,i need to know what they up to.

@deadpoolio

Dude you are so wrong

343 ,lionhead , turn 10 and rare have multiple unannounced projects. Phil spencer hinted it earlier. All ms inhouse devs including the new studios all have unannounced games underway. 343 is rumored to have 3 other titles outside halo5 in the works.

http://pixelenemy.com/343-i...

http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

Why would you claim lifesagames was wrong when you havent even done your research? And whats with you and kinect games? I like kinect actually but do you? I enjoyed kinect sports and dance central and im looking forward to kinect sports rivals and d4 on xbx one..

[XboxFun]

Love all the disagrees you got for putting Deadpoolio in his place. Or is because you are actually excited for what Xbox One has to offer?

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Please let it be for Mp3 playback. I need my custom soundtracks.

[GodGinrai]

Agreed. The music in forza 5 gets annoying after a while, so I hope they bring this feature back. I only ever used it in driving games but still..I want this feature back.

[Wikkid666]

Yes we want that... but drivers are how hardware interacts with the OS and software.

[likeaboss302]

Even Xbox Music integration would be welcome.

[n4rc]

Can't you snap Xbox music? I'm almost positive it will run in the background..

But I dont listen to music while gaming so haven't really looked into it

[likeaboss302]

Haven't tried yet. I'd rather not have to snap it and loose full screen. However, it would be great if I could pull in my driving playlists and have it stream in game.

[n4rc]

You can snap it to pick your song or playlist then minimize it again like parties..

Either way.. mp3 support is needed and will show up eventually

[kevnb]

"insider" eh?

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Well this is a nice rumor to read for the Xbox One. Let's watch the "no way" votes start to dominate because of that. Even if logically consoles get better with age.

Should be an interesting few weeks coming up here.

[Golden_Mud]

This is what made games not pass the 720p resolution , now that it's available , I think they'll pass it easily

[frostypants]

*smh*

[Golden_Mud]

smh

[johndoe11211]

What is the definition of a misleading title?:

This statement in the article: "the team working at Redmond were probably some of the best OS programmers in the world"

Turning to this statement in the headline of this post: "Xbox OS Team Best In The World".

[colonel179]

The Xbox OS is definitely not complete and it was rushed, so I would expect to improve a lot in the coming months. Hopefully the improvements are for making it easier and more intuitive.

[Mikefizzled]

That entire article didn't actually have any new content just that someone knows an update is inbound.

[Sm00thNinja]

If Sony had said this you'd all be flipping off the friggin wall lets be honest. Exciting news for Xbone fans the Xbone is 2 or 3 firmware updates away from being truly amazing

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Who are you talking to? lol you're in an Xbox article with people interested in the driver update for Xbox.

[Gamer666]

Yes, people would be flipping off the wall, because it is clear that Sony does not have a strong OS team. They took FreeBSD and heavily modified it for their needs.

If the article said MS has the best electronics hardware people in the world I would expect Sony fans to be flipping off the wall too.

MS has a competent hardware team, but nowhere near the competencies of Sony.

But, the article said neither. It simply stated something that is a known fact by anyone in the computing industry that knows anything about OSes.

[Sm00thNinja]

This comment made no sense to anyone with a functional cerebral cortex

[Onenyte]

Lol ,The CM Punk of OS's

[1nsomniac]

Haha he doesn't state that at all, to anybody who hasn't bothered to actually read the article he makes a simple generalizing statement full of "should's" & "probably's".

He doesn't make a single solid statement, another case of journalism gone bad.

[D-riders]

the ps4 os is better than the xbox one. ps4 jsut works for the gamer with tings that you dont even expect it to do. very simple and to the point

[vikingland1]

I have used both because I own both XB1 has the better OS. But it could be better.

[Mexxan]

'great things'..... Same old MS waffle they've spewing all year. It's why I sold my X1 and went solo next gen with the 4. Whether it's the OS or games, just hyperbole.

Funds are there for an X1 revival when I actually see performance from all aspects.

And before the fanboys start the retorts on how games are great already - check the smoke effects on Forza for the burning tyres - yup all the way from an old Mario Kart game.

[Vames]

'Great things'.....was actually spouted by an insider and not Microsoft! Did you read before posting? Or do you have a reading and understanding syndrome.

Furthermore, since we're on the subject of "great things." I've been hearing the term "greatness awaits" where the PS4 is concerned.....where is it? How long do you plan to wait?

[tudors]

I think the Xbox One is a amazing console but I find the OS which is based on freedom to move around quickly and smoothly while great in principle I also find myself feeling very limited for some reason, I don't feel in control, and everything is hard to find and located in odd places, I could make a list but those who have one will know what I mean, don't get me wrong I really like the Xbox One but I do like to keep things simple so while the PS4 OS may seem simple in comparison less is actually more in this case.

[purp13m0nk3y]

I'm sorry but as an Xbox1 owner the Xbox1 OS (or all three) is a POS. It's a huge step back from the 360 OS.

It's so bloated with crap I'll never use. Why oh why couldn't MS focus on a lean streamlined OS instead of this quasi Windows 8 crap.

The Windows 8 tile interface is a POS on a PC. And it's a crime against gamers on a game console.

Without useing the voice commands (which I hate with a passion) its so convoluted to navigate around.

Oh to all those who praise Windows 8 as a good OS!! What the hell are you smoking. The last half decent OS MS made was XP. If it wasn't for my Missus having to use my PC too, I'd use Linux and never purchase a MS product again.

[SLUG]

when are we getting the external hard drive update for xbox one i would like too no?

[bleedsoe9mm]

interesting he said driver not os update , what drivers is the question , people complained about lack of sound options , and the graphics driver i guess would be logical considering some 3rd party performance issues , might also be something for the bluray or HD to improve loading/install times . i guess its expected when they thru their first os in the trash 4 months before launch

[Pogue1906]

I'm a XB1'ner day 1'ner, my son(21), got a PS4 from some chic for Christmas. So i have a good look at both. The OS is better on XB1. He posted on his facebook page to not get the PS4 because it has too many bugs and he is thinking about taking it back and exchange for an XBOX. Someone posted a comment asking is his PS4 freezing also. We have Madden25 & NBA2K14 on both consoles. Both look better on XBOX. I'm trying to talk him out of exchanging it because i know they are going to fix the small issues he's having, and i like having both systems in the house. I can see first hand that xbox is better out the gate

[jessupj]

Your son's loss if he does and he's going to feel like a complete idiot in a few years.

[jay2]

Erm, surely if they were 'The best in the world', these issues would be non exsistance

[jacksjus]

Damn shame these writers can't mention the X1 without bringing the PS4 into the conversation. Smh!

Like what does the PS4 have to do with the OS update for the XOne?

[iNFAMOUZ1]

I love playing battlefield 4 while on the right side of the screen im streaming twitch or watching tv, everything feels together in one, I can even start my 360 from my one, so I'm never away from my late adopter friends, I can play halo 4 and be on the Internet or watching tv, it's all seamless, needs a few more updates, but it's pretty comfortable, love it, great job ms :) , btw I came back cause of the balance in this articles comments.

Update: skype in 1080p with my mom across the state has made our family stronger and happier, cause now we can all just use our voice to do everything fast, for example, my little sister wanted to ask our mom if her dress was good or whatever, and it was really fast, usually its a hassle. We are able to see ourselves talk for hours in perfect quality, Thank you ms, oh and the upload studio feels awesome, so many people coming closer than ever, 1000 friends is bomb!, really feels like a next generation live. All we need is halo 2 hd remake :P I wish. ..

[Mister_G]

Since the hardware in PS4 and X1 is almost identical surely any improved drivers would be used on both machines?

[jessupj]

If you're talking about architecture, yes.

If you're talking about power, no, not even close.

It would be nice to see who disagrees with this statement, so I know who disagrees with facts and logic so I can avoid wasting my time with them in the future.

[Vames]

You didn't even answer his question!

[Vames]

No. The hardware of both are identical where power is concerned. Remember, both use different GPU and different type of RAM, along with different operating systems. No driver update from one console will improve the other.

[Manic2014]

I think thuway and CBOAT stated before the current drivers for the xb1 were causing the resolution/development problems, hopefully they can step up the development of the games with the new upcoming drivers.

[TheKayle1]

What the news everyone in the IT world know ms have thebbest os devs around.. Theres no real competiton in that market.. Sadly..

[MrBrookwood09]

The only thing Windows is good for is playing games due to its more broad support over OSX. OSX destroys Windows in every way possible except for its app support. That my friend...is a fact.

[Kavorklestein]

Osx is good for simplistic college students who like to click a bunch of extra times to do stuff with the one mouse button, internet surfing, garage band, and.......hmmmmm.. what else? Oh. Yeah. Nothing.
I always have, and always will fail to see what else is so great about ALL Apple products. They may have invented some new things that are cool, but they don't pioneer half of half of half of the revolutionary things that PC's have produced, streamlined, allowed ever-growing compatibility, versatility, and upgrade-able parts that allow our technology to become truly advantageous and diversified since the dawn of Computing.

[gcolley]

That my friend...is an opinion.

[quenomamen]

"Should mean great things" for things behind the paywall.

[Stopher92]

Yep!

[NeoTribe]

Sorry but xbox ones cluttered windows 8 os is not that great at all. Lets not lie here.

[Kavorklestein]

Cluttered? Lol says the guy with 83 icons on his PC's desktop, right?

[Azzanation]

I use to hate Windows but once I invested into my own gaming PC years ago, I went with Windows XP (New) which was ok. I learnt how to use the OS then I upgraded to Windows 7 and now I am on Windows 8.1. Its been a great OS for decades and will continue to do so because that's MS strong point. They will poor most of there investments into that division. (And that's a lot of money)

@nextgengames

Who cares.. Sales means little, its just popularity. 1 Direction? Justin Bieber? iPhone? Minecraft? Both company's are doing well and are hitting there targets that's all that matters.

[bornsinner]

it's going to be a good future for the xbone... ps4 will enjoy their paid hacked, credit card robbed downtime online service with terrible games like knack, i bet there menus don't get any changes just like last gen

[strickers]

If it ain't broke. As Machinima said, PS4 menu works out of the box, unlike XB1.

[MasterCornholio]

I dont understand why there is so much hate for the PS4s OS. I had a PS4 since the 29th of November and while the OS is simple it works great. And I like to add thats its extremely fast as well plus the loading times are great when compared to the PS4.

[wheeler01]

Why is this news? Anyone can speculate about what Microsoft might do with next update!

[KillerByte23]

Well I have fount a website where Xbox One users can submit feedback and this is what UI improvements they want

Easier / Improved UI for accessing friends, achievements, messages and party chat quickly while in game

Show more than 6 achievements when viewing full screen achievements page

Inlcude auto sign-in without Kinect

No Loading bar on inital update. Screen appears to be frozen on green Xbox screen

Friends UI in the home screen between Home and Store

Settings button as a top level entry

Time played on each game/app and easily compare with friends

Ability to post achievements to Facebook/Twitter

Optimise Game installs (currently takes 30m - 1hr to install)

http://playerfeedback.net/x...

[MasterCornholio]

Hmm I thought Xbox fans hated Neogaff.

Well I think its great that Microsoft will release new drivers soon because the old ones caused a fair bit of issues for developers.