Xbox LIVE Server Problems Cause Achievements To Disappear

fury - 695 days 16 hours ago

M$ should refund the money to those who pay for this crappy online service. really, I dont understand why so many people pay for live when it's actually not THAT good. PSN then comes into my mind, it is lag free and it is free so where is the justfication for the 60$/year for xbox live? could anybody of the xbox fans make a statement and tell me why they are letting themselves being ripped-off?

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General Pinky - 695 days 15 hours ago

your achievements will not go...it is all store on the hard drive...if anything happens to the severs and they fix it then you can upload it again...(it is more like just loging into xbox live)
and everything is back
so you sony fanboys can cut this talk and go back on the PS3..or wait no games...still waiting for the AAA games

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chanto23 - 695 days 15 hours ago

Whats going on with microsoft's xbox 360??!!...its bad news after bad news, it reminds me when the PS3 first came out and got all that negative publicity...but its really weird whats happening right now...i bet there is something more serious than "too many new player jamming the servers" going on and they are not telling the truth. Xbox live has been around like for 5 years and i've never heard of something remotely similar happening before...

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gamesR4fun - 695 days 15 hours ago

another lawsuit lol

pretty bad for a pay service imo but how many peeps really care about achievement points?

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TheSadTruth - 695 days 15 hours ago

Achievements are stored on your hard drive.. it doesn't matter if they roll back the servers.. if he lost his achievement it has nothing to do with Xbox Live AT ALL

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If you google the guy:

http://www.google.com/searc...

You will see his only articles are Xbox 360 smear articles, so this might not even be true

Now anyways, before you little kids press disagree 400 times on my post, keep in mind glitches happen and who the hell cares about video game achievements enough to post an article about them? lmao

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IntelligentAj - 695 days 14 hours ago

Okay am I wrong or was Live the best online service until recently? I have lots of respect for Live but all i'm seeing are stories about live problems. What the hell is going on?

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player911 - 695 days 14 hours ago

The problems is that so many people joined xbox live over the recent holidays that wasn't expected. They got slammed with too many requests at once and it started getting bad. It wasn't until Christmas morning when everyone got their 360's and live service.

While it hasn't been perfect since Christmas, it is still fully functional. Online gaming is lag free, voice chat is clear. It was bad for a few days where you couldn't do hardly anything, but it was only a few days and is expected after the holidays. Any network getting that many people signing up, logging on, and hammering servers at once will cause a negative effect.

The only problem that still lingers is the messanger, which is only used to chat with PC MSN clients (not other gamers). But this isn't a big deal anyway.

Most of the reviews and "news stories" are just Sony Fanboys making a mountain out of an anthill (over dramatizing it).

I just got done playing 3 hours of Halo 3 online and voice chatting. I didn't have a single problem and everyone had good signal.

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wallace1000 - 695 days 11 hours ago

How come people are disagreeing with guys that are saying achievements are stored on the hard drive. That is true, maybe this 360 owner was just having a blond moment :-P

EDIT: Ah cool, so it is on the hard drive and on live too. Maybe not such a blond moment for the user then.

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hi6hli6ht - 695 days 4 hours ago

until u go online with the console. once u sign in, it goes through xbox live, i know this for a fact because i had my hard drive wiped and then recovered my gamertag from xbox live and had all my achievements still

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travelguy2k - 695 days ago

People that have a core 360 cannot get Achievments. As the core has no HDD it obviously cannot store achievments, unless, like email this info is stored on the Microsoft servers.

Logical thinking says that achievments are stored on the 360. But the fact that there are 360's with no HDD say this cannot be true.

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BLUR111 - 695 days 16 hours ago

xbox live better be fucn free, soon it should anyway besides it being so lousy but.. loosing achievments they better be getting on the ball. cuz i dont think many around the world of the ppl that just spent the money for a live card is too happy about this crap

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jaja1434 - 695 days 12 hours ago

Live is free...

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Nostradavis - 695 days 16 hours ago

I agree Twiz....this sucks for the people that bust their ass to get achievements. I would not want to have to do some of the things they make you do over again...

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aba - 695 days 14 hours ago

"Achievements are stored on your hard drive.. it doesn't matter if they roll back the servers.. if he lost his achievement it has nothing to do with Xbox Live AT ALL

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If you google the guy:

http://www.google.com/searc...

You will see his only articles are Xbox 360 smear articles, so this might not even be true

Now anyways, before you little kids press disagree 400 times on my post, keep in mind glitches happen and who the hell cares about video game achievements enough to post an article about them? lmao"

roll back the servers.. if he lost his achievement it has nothing to do with Xbox Live AT ALL

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If you google the guy:

http://www.google.com/searc...

EDIT: "but sony is way smater than microsoft.. ms is just greedy."

- Ok? Are you like 12 yrs old?

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BLUR111 - 695 days 13 hours ago

i agree i dont see how xbox online service has to do with loosing them cause there on the hard drive anyway achievements are nice cuz u have something to show for on ur games u beat or whatever. but sony is way smater than microsoft.. ms is just greedy.

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player911 - 695 days 14 hours ago

The only reason why PSN didn't take a hit Christmas was because no one bought that junk.

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Frankenberg - 695 days 15 hours ago

At least with MS you can talk to a human. I guess the reason Sony makes you email your problems in is that they probably speak Engrish.

Yes, I bought a PS3 and I have had problems with it.

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devilhunterx - 695 days 14 hours ago

Lots of people in America cant speak even english properly. Dont believe me? Just go Texas.

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Xemnas - 695 days 14 hours ago

Dude Rotfl i seen you on youtube lol

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ry-guy - 695 days 16 hours ago

Agreed. My achievements are unlocked and still there.

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AnSteRiX - 695 days 16 hours ago

THE ARE STORED ON YOUR HARD DRIVE AND IF U DO SOMETHIND DODGEY LIKE WITH AN IN BUILT HARD DRIVE KINDA THING THEN EVN IF THERS A PROBLEM IN UR CONSOLE U WILL GET UR PROFILE ACHIEVEMENS MESSED UP...BUT NOT IN 360 COZ ITS A EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE MEANS CARRY YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS WITH YOU ANYWHERE!!!!!!! I AGREE WITH U.;)

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Staircase - 695 days 16 hours ago

Hahaha. Awesome comment, bubbles.

I have to admit though, it does feel good to hear that little ding. =P

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gamesR4fun - 695 days 15 hours ago

bubbles ++

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OldGamer - 695 days 16 hours ago

I agree. Although I am a PS3 owner and can't stand MS for numerous reasons, it's a shame what's been going on with XBL lately. I hope they get it together soon, for the sake of all the gamers who have been getting screwed on their accounts and such.

I don't wish this on any XBox users and I certainly wouldn't want it to happen to me.

No jinxy my PSN.

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Staircase - 695 days 16 hours ago

On your HDD, I'm pretty sure. Downloaded game saves get you achievements, and before i had signed up for live i still had achievements.

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Twizlex - 695 days 15 hours ago

No, it's not kept on the hard drive. You can get achievements from game saves because the save shows you got so many kills or whatever is required to get the achievement, then getting one more kill gets you the achievement. The actual status of your achievements is kept on Microsoft's servers, which is why you can see you and your friends' status on xbox.com.

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Staircase - 695 days 15 hours ago

From Xbox.com:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g...
"Offline to Online
Your achievements are kept ready for Xbox Live®, even if you're not yet sporting broadband. As soon as you take the plunge, the achievements saved locally on the storage device (hard drive or memory unit) of your Xbox 360 console will be broadcast for the world to see, so you won't have to concern yourself with reaching those goals all over again."

And I was able to gain achievements before even connecting my 360 to the net.

I think it updates your online profile every time you sign into live.

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Twizlex - 695 days 12 hours ago

Well of course you can get achievements when you're not online. I'm not saying you have to be on Live to get achievements. I'm saying that the Xbox Live servers keep track of your achievements and whatnot. How else could you recover your gamertag on someone else's 360? It's all stored on the servers. Obviously your game data is stored on the hard drive, and that's what the achievement system checks to unlock achievements for you. If, however, your achievement doesn't get uploaded and registered on the servers, when you log into Live it's going to think you don't have it and therefore take it away from you. That's why unlocking another achievement will re-register the previous one that got lost - it's scanning the data on your hard drive, and then it finds that you SHOULD have that achievement, but you don't, so it gives it to you. That's how the achievement system works. If he wasn't online when it happened, he would probably still have it. The servers screwed it up by not properly registering the data.

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Lord Cheese - 694 days 20 hours ago

Its actually entirely the opposite to how you describe it. The golden "source" for the achievements attached to your gamer profile are local to the console (whether that is on the hdd or in some other local memory i dont know). Its pretty obvious this is the case, as otherwise it wouldnt be possible to unlock achievements while offline, then have your online profile updated when you connect to live. I personally have had a number of problems with my broadband connection, resulting in playing a lot of games (and unlocking achievements) while offline, but when i log in to live, my profile is updated with my newest unlocked achievements and gamer score.

The fact that the live servers are missing your achievement is irrellevant as it would update the next time you connect to the service. The only reason i can think of peoples online and offline profiles being out of sync is if that update is selective - i.e. only update those games that have a change in the number of unlocked achievements since the last time you logged in.

This is of course speculation on my part but makes far more sense as it does not therefore preclude those without consoles constantly connected to live functioning as they should.

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