Extreme Gore in Soldier of Fortune: Payback's New Footage

Twizlex - 786 days 21 hours ago

I've played the previous two SOF games, and I have to say that this really could go either way. The first game actually had a story and plot, while the second one... not so much. The first one was actually pretty decent, but the second one just ran with the "blow arms and legs off" gimmick, and even though it looked better graphically, it really wasn't that hot of a game.

The one thing I don't understand is the part in the preview where the guy says "The most unintentionally funny bit is the guy who keeps attacking after his leg and head have been blown off." I watched this three times to see what he's talking about and I never saw it. Am I blind or is this guy just making stuff up?

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Skerj - 786 days 21 hours ago

I played the first one on PC, the bastards kept shooting at me after only having one leg left. The 2nd one I played when it came out on the Dreamcast. ..and it killed my system. So now I'm scared of this one, but I must say damn that's gory.

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MK_Red - 787 days 8 hours ago

I understand what you say. Many gamers hated Manhunt and felt it got boring pretty fast while others loved the game and praised it's pacing, atmosphere and violence.

SOF:P doesn't seem to have great pacing or atmosphere of that game but as I've said before, I'm a gorehound and violent games are exactly my cup of tea.

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marinelife9 - 787 days 3 hours ago

Does it get old? Not really. I remember re-playing through levels of the original soldier of fortune just because it was so neat to shoot someone in the throat and they actually respond to it. You could shoot guns out of hands and they would cower or run away helplessly. You could shoot them in the foot or leg and then finish them with a head shot later.

Also only the more powerful guns actually took off limbs.

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narked - 787 days 4 hours ago

so you can enjoy the gore evennn more :P

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Mecha105 - 787 days 3 hours ago

durrrrr! :P

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MK_Red - 787 days 5 hours ago

Well, this game not being banned means that Jack Thompson and other idiot anti-gamers don't care for children and young playing violent games, they want to go for a famous game like GTA, Halo and Manhunt and get free attention and publicity from it.

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Badhabit007 - 787 days 3 hours ago

Yes, SOF:DH was fun and gorry. Graphics was pretty good for that time, and with the multiple hitting parts and pain reactions from your victims added a lot to the fun factor. But I remember clearly how dumb the AI was...

In this video, I do not understand the ragdoll effect, it's pretty strange the way the corpses moves after hits, it looks like it's too much.

Ciao!

Mart

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MK_Red - 787 days 5 hours ago

Good one. Mortal Kombat FPS.

"Finish him with your sniper"!

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narked - 787 days 4 hours ago

FATALITY !!!!!!
*grabs shotgun shovs it down enemys troat, click*

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vaan - 787 days 6 hours ago

But if you weren't, guess what.....
IT'S NOT REAL! IT'S A G A M E !!
Pixels on a screen, get over it.

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Fanboi - 787 days 5 hours ago

You sir, are...GAY!!

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Hatchetforce - 787 days 5 hours ago

With a name that would make Jack Thompson proud, perhaps you should be in church groveling through a hymn to his majesty rather than posting on an internet game forum.

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AngryHippo - 787 days 2 hours ago

....with a name like 'gamesblow' why are you posting on a games forum? And second of all just f-off and stop trying to morally police the gaming industry. Go preach somewhere else. Video games are video games, they are not real, they don't make people go around killing people, the kids that do that sort of stuff are mentally f'ed up before they even touch a video game. This game looks good, still work to do but promising, its good its not afraid to show some gore.

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Hatchetforce - 787 days 5 hours ago

You know what is unnecessary? Self righteous and self appointed society monitors that think (wrongly) they have some divine or moral designation to protect us from their version of evil. Guess what? Not your place. You take care of your kids and stop interfering in our lives by imposing your limits on what you believe we should and should not do.

I don't remember an election recently that endowed anyone with the glorious title of game god so they could decide for all of us what constitutes good gaming. Take Napleon's hand over there and go get yourself some help.

Activision isn't afraid of those fairies that believe Barbie's Horse Adventures should define gaming.

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Veritanimus - 787 days 2 hours ago

Well said. It almost seems like you copied and pasted an except from some athiest's rant on the errors of America but let me bring something to your attention.

The quote, "...stop interfering in our lives by imposing your limits on what you believe we should and should not do..." is hypocritical. You fail to see you do that yourself by continuing to support media that desensitizes the populace and blurs the lines between the current cultural concept of "right" and "wrong". The resulting effect is disasterous and is proven in historical records. Now, before you start ranting at me, realize that I never said whether this was a "good" or "bad" thing. All I'm saying is that your statement above is hypocritical and your argument fails.

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Hatchetforce - 786 days 23 hours ago

No I am not wrong because you fail to understand you can't legislate morality. You also seem to be quoting Jack Thompson and look how a site like Kotaku ripped him a new one when it comes to games and violence.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/th...

There isn't any hypocrisy in the comments at all. Period, end of argument on that. It exists in your perceptions because like many irresponsible people you think someone else (society) is to blame for the woes of children and in taking such a stand absolve the responsible - the parents and family. You want hypocrisy? There it is in spades.

You want society to be responsible for the way you raise your children. This is reminiscent of those parent trying to sue Alice Cooper because their children hung themself trying to duplicate his onstage antics. If that happens you are obviously not doing your job as a parent.

Expecting society to make things less available or even present simply because you believe you should be able to throw the less responsible to the masses, i.e. your children, and then get them back in a condition in which you choose is inexcusable. The parties not doing their job isn't the video game indstry. You know, the wones that actually fund the ESRB. Rather it is oppressive faschists that believe that some puritanical entertainment industry will solve their woes that are in fact generated by not properly dealing with their own little malcontent hellspawn.

You historical records are the same ones that claim Klebold and company were driven by video games to do their violence. Stupidity in it's highest form. What is proven is that an improper parent child relationship will have disasterous effects. You can continue to blame such ill effects on the industry if it makes you sleep better but you would be a liar to yourself.

Childern are exposed to such 'desensitizing effects' when parents choose not to be a superior influence and simply let their kids run helter skelter because they are too damn lazy to care for the little yardapes which they should not have produced in the first place.

If you are going to start indicting people begin with the parents then the rest of us will not have our freedoms torn asunder so some immmature parents can go on living their lives the way they did before they had the little brats. And guess what? They will still turn out to be worthless. It isn't the games, it's the parents. Until you accept that fact no public lynching of uber violent games will help you achieve the nirvana for children you erringly believe is everyone else's responsibility.

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deifen - 786 days 18 hours ago

By saying you can't legislate morality, you are essentially legislating morality! You are telling someone that they cannot do something, and that the action in question is wrong. so YOU ARE being a hypocrite. Its really not difficult to see this to be true.

I personally enjoy games like this, but I can see how they could be bad. Hell, If I build a game around the premise of recreating the holocaust, would it be wrong? It is, after all, only a game! What about a game which endorses enslaving africans? Is that not wrong? Try to think about issues before foaming at the mouth. It's ok for people to say that a violent game is wrong, you can't stop them from expressing their opinion. Whether that opinion is right or wrong must be tested against logic and good reasoning. try this sometime, you'll get farther in life, I guarantee it.

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Hatchetforce - 786 days 18 hours ago

No dummy, here is law 101. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. That is one of the first illustrations you are provided about freedom of speech. I am saying they can do whatever they want AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. NO HYPOCRISY DUMBASS. Preventing me from buying the games I enjoy and trying to prevent such violence in games so they don't have to do a better job as a parent is wrong. My actions to stop lazy parents and self righteous puritans from infringing on my rights isn't hypocrisy my definition challenged friend.

If they don't like those types of games they are free to forbid their child from having them. They are free to be the kind of role model that would make a child want to obey. They are free to be an effective parent. They are free. But they are not free to deprive me of a choice protected by law just so they can be a lazy ass.

You see they are free to raise their kids however they want but they can't legislate action that wrongly deprives me and millions of other gamers of someone elses freedom of speech. That freedom of speech is the dev team and publisher creating a work of art. If you don't like it take it up with the Supreme Court. They don't see any hypocrisy in such a point of view either.

And yes games are art. It is their right to do what they want within the law. Attempting to legislate or remove their right to produce a certain work and my right to buy it is wrong. It infringes on my rights and the producer's rights. Said intellectual property in no way infringes on the right of the anti-violence crowd because all they have to do is be a good parent and mind their kid's purchases. I watched a parent let a child buy a game 3 days ago in Gamestop and the parent had no idea what the kid was buying. Whose fault is that?

You can claim this study or that study blah blah blah but just as many say different. The real influencing factor is the home. Kotaku easily picked Jack Thompson apart and this is all he does.

You wouldn't know a hypocrite if one popped out of the toilet and bit you in the ass. You also do not understand the 1st Ammendment and the application of free speech.

This is far beyond legislating morality. Certain dunces like Jack Thompson want to act as censors and that is wrong. If you can't tell the difference between appointing yourself the censor of humanity in video games and deciding what people should see versus telling people they cannot infringe on your access to certain games then you are an imbecile.

There is no hypocrisy in telling someone they cannot stand between you and a lawful purchase versus the idiots that want to take everyone's right away TO CHOOSE. CHOOSE being the key word. To have a CHOICE. Something yoiu apparently have no ability to comprehend. Freedom to choose. Without at least two possible solutions one cannot choose. Try getting that GED next time and looking up the word hypcrisy while you are at it.

I am not legislating anyone else's morality. They are free to enforce that in their own housholds through the choices they make in life. They are free to choose what movies they go see or what games they buy, what god(s) they worship or don't. They have a choice. What people like you want is to stop the rest of us, the majority from having a choice. You don't want us to be able to buy such games at all. Or see such movies. Choice. It all comes down to choice.

No one is stopping the holy few from choosing AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. That isn't hypocrisy dummy it is freedom.

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Veritanimus - 786 days 2 hours ago

I am humored by your respect for Kotaku but it's also very sad that you think so highly of them...anyway that's not the argument.

I cannot believe your ignorance to understanding something as simple as a circular argument. You contradict yourself, present your argument with an arrogant tone, and are totally stubborn to the truth about your own argument. Seriously, open your eyes and read your own argument. You're presenting your case with brute force and contradictory statements. You sound just like Jack Thompson.

For your info, brute force arguments always fail. I apologize for thinking you were a worthy debater. Stop responding like Jack Thompson.

In light of your response, it's people like you, with so much rage inside your head that should not be allowed to play these games. Society and families everywhere do not want a person like you playing games that only fuel your rage. You are the perfect example of who shouldn't play these games.

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Hatchetforce - 785 days 14 hours ago

Do you even know who Jack Thompson is and what he does? No. Between your puritanical fits of stupidity and blind acts to save us from ourselves you ignore the fact that it is you that are acting like Jack Thompson attempting to save us from all of the wickedness in this evil world. Alas we are teh doomed! You also choose discount facts because you dislike the website from which they came. Tough luck pansy it doesn't alter the truth. It came from Kotaku and they were right. Out of the mouths of babes...

It is you that can't comprehend no circular argument exists here. I am taking nothing for granted. You fail (likely a habit of yours) you fail to understand Barker at all or the true nature of circulus in probando.

You call me unworthy to debate yet you continue to debate. As you will respond to this by name or through another account. Now there is a hypocrite. It is especially humorous since I am right and you are so far from it.

Your desire to call someone stubborn when they are actually just secure in the truth is typical of the lilly livered and irresponsible attitides that willingly blame the entire world for your ills. Boo hoo little boy, it isn't you fault. Bullshit.

So much of what happens to us is our own fault. Try standing up straight, hitching up your pants, growing a spine, taking responsibility for your own actions, and not blaming games or hollyweird because you or your kid turned out to be a malcontent. Being a coward and wanting society to change in order to protect you from your own lack of discipline and steadfastness in rearing your whelps is no way to grow to manhood.

Brute force arguements are labled as such because the truth of them is so pristine, so direct, that the weak have trouble seeing them as anything but barbaric assaults on the senses. Well aren't you all rolled in perfume. You should have stayed in ballet school.

Don't fool yourself that you know what is in my head or anyone elses. That is your own conceited nature attempting to comfort you against something you were not born to understand. Directness scares the weak and the cowardly. Always has, always will. Mostly because it mystifies them with it's deceptively simple and pure nature. It is a good thing the evolution of man wasn't left up to a bunch of emo vegetarians or else we would still be waiting on the wheel and fire as well.

The best part? I paid off my order of SOF today. Woohoo. Putting you on the Ignore list is another reason to celebrate. Now go raise you children be afraid of their own shadow so the first time they see actual violence they pee themselves and run away in hysterics. It is a good thing Leonidas had men to depend upon instead of all the Therons like yourself.

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Genki - 786 days 17 hours ago

"I am not a role model, I will not raise your children for you."

That's one of the problems with people today. It's entirely too easy to pawn off responsibility elsewhere and act like the victim. It all comes down to just being proactive about things. Find out what you can do first before knocking down someone else's door.

As far as who/what get's zeroed in on, it's all trendy, and foolishly at that. It used to be Marilyn Manson, then it was Bill Clinton, then Eminem, then games...it's ridiculous. If it were true or relevant, the focus wouldn't change so much. It lies at the heart of the problem...the individual.

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Genki - 786 days 14 hours ago

I agree with you though. I'll be keeping a thumb on my kids, that's for sure. Not even necessarily in a harsh way either, I'll just be sure to nurture them. When I do have to drop the hammer though, I'll do so. My offspring will most definitely have a sense of consequence about them.

Anyway, if people would just realize that they have the most presence in their childrens lives than anyone else's, maybe a difference could be made, but I guess it's easier to sit back, watch your kid stagnate and then cry about why everyone but themselves are doing everything wrong. It's ridiculous. It reminds me of the monday morning football coach. Then again, I guess all of us sports fans have a bit of that in us, but some more so thna others.

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Veritanimus - 786 days 2 hours ago

Spoken like a true mature adult. I agree with you.

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