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Developer says game is "not trying to be incredibly photo realistic".
Halo 3 developer Bungie has come out fighting amid some complaints that the blockbuster FPS, available in the UK now, is simply "Halo 2 in HD".
Speaking in an interview with Pro-G at the launch of the game in London's Waterloo IMAX cinema last night, Lee Wilson, cinematic designer at Bungie Studios said the team was delighted with the graphics in Halo 3.
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Bebop
- 819 days 3 hours ago
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1 - Its undeniably an awesome game - BUT IT REALLY IS HALO2 HD
That's the plain truth. Its no graphics whore -in fact GeOW out does it IMO.
But the combination of gameplay, storyline, past Halo following & MS hype make it big again. Its clearly just an evolutionary product of its predecessor & not revolutionary. That's why it is the last in the trilogy. Bungie realise they have done all they can with it.
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skillednutter
- 819 days 2 hours ago
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1.1 - But....
...Bungie have always said that Halo was aimed to look like a comic, that was the original Concept by the Artist's and in Halo 3 they have finally got their initial conception that was designed pre-halo.
This has been confirmed by the Original Concept Artists, Google knows all.
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bluebrad1974
- 819 days ago
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1.2 - I disagree
First, Halo 3 murders Halo 2 in the graphics department. The art style is the same and that's it. The graphics quality is made even more apparent when watching save films. Anyone that says Halo 3 is graphically bad either doesn't have the game or is simply a hater.
Calling Halo 3, Halo 2 HD is the dumbest thing I've heard in a good while.
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athlon770
- 819 days ago
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1.3 - No, Bebop is correct
You guys are being clouded by your bias.
This very game has been given 10 out of 10 at many if not all the review sites, yet once we get it into our hands, we are seeing yesterdays graphics. Games that look better are not given a 10 in graphics...what makes this game deserve it?
Yes, it is a beautiful game.
Yes, it does play very soothly. (for the most part, I have ran into a couple of stutters here and there)
No, I would not have given it a 10 out of 10. The review sites let me down and now I have to question all the games I did not purchase because "they" said it wasn't worth it.
I would give it a more modist 8.5
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tehcellownu
- 818 days 21 hours ago
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sorry but halo storyline sucks...gameplay is the best..the graphics isnt all the great
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Taker_129
- 818 days 21 hours ago
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1.6 - Halo 3 is Halo 2 HD
people are saying "oh it's the art style that makes it look that way". Wrong because Rachet and Clank: TOD is proof that you can still have a cartoony look and have an amazing looking game. Halo 3 is just not there graphically and it really hurt this game that could have been amazing. Bungie has been working on this game for years and it's ashame that ps3 launch title(Resistance) blows this away.
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bluebrad1974
- 818 days 20 hours ago
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1.7 - You delusional pricks look at these screens
Take a look at these pics and see if you can figure out which screenshot is Halo 2.
NOTE: All screens are gameplay.
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Gil
- 818 days 17 hours ago
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1.8 - @bluebrad
Uh, number 1 is from Halo 2. What do I win?
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JsonHenry
- 818 days 15 hours ago
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I personally feel that Halo 3 looks good, but it is NOT as good looking compared to other games on the market. Hell, even Perfect Dark Zero looks better I think. And it has that "comic" style to it also.
But it DOES look better than Halo 2 in HD. Even me, a self proclaimed Halo sceptic thinks it looks better than Halo 2 in HD.
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Gamer luv
- 818 days 5 hours ago
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Ok so we know that Halo 3 isnt the best looking game, but are you Sony fans still trying to tell us that theres no improvement between 2 and 3 ?
Because, there is.
What about the people who dont have HDTV's? If its Halo 2 HD then people who dont have HD wont notice any difference, right?
Its silly, Halo 3 is a big improvement from Halo 2, but it isnt as good as games they look as great as Gears or Timeshift or Haze etc.
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Antan
- 819 days 3 hours ago
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To many eye candy whores in the world today sadly. The sum of all parts are what make games great. In a similar way would Jaws of had the same impact without John Williams classic score? Im going to pick my copy of Halo up now and am very much looking forward to playing it. Played the 1st but not the second so i will probably read up on the 2nd unless one of you want to clear up what happened in the 2nd? hehe.
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joydestroy
- 819 days 3 hours ago
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LOLZ
seriously though, do the devs really need to defend this game?
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PumPum
- 819 days 3 hours ago
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3.1 - MS pays.
Its simply not possible that there is anything negative about Halo3.
sarcasm
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nobizlikesnowbiz
- 819 days 3 hours ago
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Weak sauce.
Some of the environments are simply jawdropping. For the scale of what Halo 3 is, I think the graphics are marvelous.
The only things that aren't impressive to me are the character models. They look pretty bland. But it's all realtime, and theres so much going on in such huge spaces, that it's easily forgotten.
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toughNAME
- 818 days 23 hours ago
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4.1 - agreed
to the people who have played the 4th (i tihnk) mission..the storm?
fvcking amazing
and the character models are bland, altohugh..the elites look soo much better than the humans
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DARK WITNESS
- 818 days 22 hours ago
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4.2 - i have to agree.
may be if you are playing it on a SD TV, ya maybe it does look like halo 2, but at full 720 or 1080, i just don't see how people can say it looks the same.
The sage on the ark with all the sand, that just did it for me. i can think of a lot more so called next gen games that look a lot worse.
i had a friend over, he is a big PS fan, but he wanted to see the game.
before i put it on i made him play the second to last stage in halo 2, just so he can get a feel for the story were MC left off.
upscale even he thought it still looked good, but when he saw halo 3 he was like the difference is amazing.
bungie have done well. how many dev's keep going for the same old dark, grey rundown building look....they are the one's with nothing new to show...no imagination.
if bungie and changed it all and gone for the photo real look there would be a lot more angry halo fans asking them why.
i think the game is beautiful, i had doubts with the beta but it really does look way better.
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SL1M DADDY
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5 - Meh
Yeah the graphics are nothing to write home about but whatever... The game is fun and it looks ok. It's no Bioshock but it still gets at least one thumbs up from me.
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Saint Sony
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It is funny how people think the NEXT-GEN is all about GFX, maybe it is, but to me it is more like experiencing incredible game play and superior AI and multiplayer mayhem or great storyline and action. There are some truly great looking games out that lack the game play totally. Halo3 is made of pure win what comes to the game itself. What comes to GFX, it might not look like Gears of War, but hey it is HALO not Gears.
ps. I bet most people here can't even watch old black and white movies anymore.
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DeadIIIRed
- 818 days 19 hours ago
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6.1 - Graphics determine a Next-Gen Console
If graphics aren't important then their would be no need to release new consoles would there? Sure it allows for a little more gameplay elements, but graphics has always driven consoles.
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idontcare
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this game looks bad and is boring
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TheMART at Xboxkings
- 819 days 2 hours ago
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Dude you smoked something or you aren't awake.
You were talking about the PS3. It's just added in the dictionary:
PS3 - synonym for: bad, boring
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idontcare
- 819 days 1 hour ago
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7.2 - lolol .. pi$$ed eh?
the game is soo lame .. i sold my 360 yesterday because i was so pi§§ed about it. i'm a huge halo fan but this game is the most overhyped piece of cr@p.
oh MARTY .. you totally want a PS3 .. i can feel it :-)
the last savior for the 360 failed to impress the masses ..
hahahahahahaha
i'll enjoy Lair, Warhawk and some of my new Wii games (got one for the 360) ..
PS3 FTW
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D3athTillDawn
- 818 days 11 hours ago
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7.3 - @ Idontcare
It's funny how you've sold your 360 yesterday like 10 times....sony droids...
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GoLeafsGo
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Be Owned.
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IRONMAN_X57
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9 - why is thst when games dont look good the developers cop out
"OH we dont want it to look real", idiot this is next gen, its about game and graphics. Give me a break
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SofaKingReetodded
- 819 days 1 hour ago
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9.1 - lol
that's exactly what came to mind, COPOUT
this isn't some third party run of the mill title for the 360, THIS IS IT"S SOLE REASON FOR EXISTENCE. IT"S FLAGSHIP TITLE.
how can there be any excuses for mediocre graphics?
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I don't think anybody is complaining about the art direction or the water effects. but the main issue about the graphics is really what's up with all the aliasing? There's aliasing left and right with jaggies running amuck. I wanna shoot at brutes, not jaggies!
And what kind of stupid company is going to basically say "oh well, you guys are complaining about graphics? well noooooooooo WE HERE AT BUNGIE think they are good, so they are good! Now shut up with the complaints because we like it. It doesn't matter if you don't, we do and that's all that matters"
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SuperSaiyan4
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11 - FFS!!!
Its not HALO 2 in HD what a load of BS.
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HeartlesskizZ
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"Believe"
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I'm sure you could have summarised that better
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athlon770
- 818 days 23 hours ago
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13.2 - Dang dude
All that hot air your a blow'n forced me to turn my air cond back on!
What, do you work for gamefreak or something, trying to justify why you played sheep and gave this game a 10?
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Violater
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13.3 - hush little baby
waaa waaaaa waaa!!!!
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nanometric
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Even if it doesn't have uber gfx, multiplayer makes up for it tenfold, at least thats what I could judge by vids... damn ppl in my country still play CS 1.6v
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15 - Sorry but IT IS Halo 2 in HD...its not a bad thing it just wont be as memorable as the other Halos....
gameplay and visually is 90% the same thing, damn i even swear i played an old map from Halo 2 last night...i was like WTF!!! LOL!!! still fun though till the stupid kids start finding ways to cheat...
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Capt CHAOS
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16 - Don't give a bit about all the negative bollocks..
I love the game and I'm satisfied..
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chanto23
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17 - Yeah i noticed those annoying jaggies too!!!!!!!!!!!!...
it reminded me of all those bad ports we have on the PS3...and for a 360 3rd generation game thats unacceptable, specially when we are talking about Microsoft's baby...
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P4KY B
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19 - The game looks F'ing amazing on my HTDV
It has its own style.
I'm so glad it doesn't look like Gears and COD4.
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bluebrad1974
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19.1 - Same here.
It's blatantly obvious that 90% of the folks in this comment section do not own Halo 3. The lighting in Sierra 117 is stunning to say the least, and that's the very first mission.
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razer
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19.2 - Agreed.
Yes, the graphics are not jaw dropping but they certainly aren't Halo 2 in HD. I play on my 61" at 720p and the game looks great. I've not noticed jaggies but I do notice some fairly flat looking ground textures. But things like the grass moving and if you brush up against bushes they move, the little stuff like that makes up for some of the flatness. The game felt like a Halo game and that's just what I wanted.
There are too many Unreal 3 engine games out and it is a nice change. Bungie certainly doesn't need to defend this game, the reviews are raving about it..
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Razer, dude you must be blind - there is jaggies all over the place just look at any straight line, yes lighting and most textures are amazing but the jaggies take away from the experience as they are VERY visible. Multiplayer is even worse - looks like PS2 game sometimes. Pretty lame to have such allising issues in first party AAA title that they claim has been honed to perfection.
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I'm glad that Bungie has the mind set of Gameplay should be > than Graphics. I'm definitely having much more fun with Halo 3 than any other FPS I have ever played before. :D
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22 - hahahaha
fanboys make me laugh, they jump all over games like killzone saying it looks crap and the usual halos 3 > killzone, 'ha look at the jaggies on ps3' etc etc.... and now halo is critisied for its graphics suddenly its all 'it isnt all about graphics' 'ok the graphics arent great but.... but...'
lets just except while halo is a great game its not everything it was hyped up to be, games never are, im suprised people still allow it to get to them. im my opinion halos down fall was its previous success, M$/bungie where to worried to change anything to much as they must have been worried about lossing their following. i personally now look forward to completely new IP's, its a new fresh experience that 'series' games just cant offer.
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Some do lack finesse...but not the Chief and the Arbiter.
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24 - The game sucks
Get over it.
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that your stupid worthless comment got 7 agree's continues to reaffirm that this site is full of dipshits!
If it sucks so much, why read this article and even comment?
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