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Sony's Demise, NPD Domination, and Jake Fights Back
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Two highly anticipated PS3 games have been released, Heavenly Sword and Lair, and to the surprise of many, only one scored decent while the other bombed. PX360 discusses what went wrong and asks if Sony can regain lost ground.
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devilsadvocate
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Demise??? lol!!!! Remember, that is like writing off a sprinter 10 meters into the 100 meter dash!!! They would be wise to not count them down and out yet. There is a long long way to go
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Indeed.
The PlayStation 3 is one of the hottest electronic items on the planet and that's definitely not uncool.
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Yep hottest electronic item to sit on the store shelves gathering dust.
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DarkArcani
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Just like the 360 in japan, sak500.
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UnasFortuna
- 830 days 14 hours ago
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1.5 - What dumb@ss writes this stuff??? Someone always trying to start a fanboy war.
I am by far no fanboy of either system, but neither system is going anywhere. I have all three and to be honest, the Wii and the 360 for now are gathering more dust. They all have their fun points and will be around for the life of their systems. Sony has great stuff as does the 360. It doesn't matter which system has sold more units...for if you were true gamers you would only care about what your favorite systems is offering you now and in the future and couldn't care less about the "competition." From a monetary standpoint... of course the 360 has sold more units (likewise with the CHEAPER Wii)... they are currently cheaper because they are now easier to manufacture. The same will be for the PS3 in time when components and technology manufacturing costs come down. Sony just needs to focus on the games right now (as well as beefing up their rapidly improving online portion). You guys are forgetting how much of a headstart MS had on Xbox live even before the 360 came out. There were plenty of games that were starting to come out with Live capability....not so with the PS2. Don't get me wrong...I love my xbox live for it does richly enhance gameplay and replayability... but I have high hopes for Sony now that I have been able to try for truly first venture into and Live-like realm. Sony has proven themselves many times over in the past as far as their adaptability and technological improvements which is why they were once kings of the Gaming World. I wouldn't count them down for a long time.... I have become a Sony fan like it or not...even though I hated the PS2.
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BLaZiN PRopHeT
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i knew it you are Amitpaul from GT. dude do you do this same stuff on every site?
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An Xbox 360 site writing about the PS3? Lol. This is so stupid.
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Bloodmask
- 830 days 20 hours ago
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4 - I laugh at these comments
Chances are that most ProSony people didn't even listen to the podcast. As it is quite long.
And just decided they didn't like the title of it. So they are complaining.
I realize I can't prove this 100% but I would say it is a strong theory.
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GunPants
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5 - heavenly sword is lame
i just rented it yesterday and i already beat it. 5 hours;
so much for boo-ray making the games longer. and whats even worst is the fighting is boring and just the same 3 guys over and over and over.
if any one hasn't played i'll explain, go to one room, kill 10 guys go to next room kill 15 guys go to the next room kill 12 guys, rinse and repeat for 5 hours. and the boss battles are WAY to long and point less.
5/10 and thats being nice cuz the visuals are good if you look past the frame rate issues.
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devilsadvocate
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I love how the completion time is coming down. I would bet you never played it because that dont sound like heavenly sword to me. What about the shooting parts, and the parts where you have to faff around shooting shields at levers etc.
The way it is going xbox owners will be nailing this game in 20 minutes by next week.
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trane07
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Just a damn trolling fanboy like always.
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I am with devilsadvocate. I don't believe you GunPants. How comes, that if the boss battles are too long and boring, and you can beat the game in 5 hours?
I bet, the net time is more then that, because there is no fast run thru mode. You have to beat up the crowd, you can't just ignore them. A 5 hour play sound like a run thru to me, IMO. If you don't want to play a game to enjoy but want to finish it as quick as possible, what's the point in playing at all ?
The environment is amazing, the shooting elements add a nice variety, the dialog cut scenes unique. How's that a 5/10 ?
nough said. go play Halo.
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dude first of all stop with all your lieing because one.. the game is more than 5hours even without dieing and you're the only xbot fanboy that i've heard that said it was lame..even your other fellow xbot boys agreed it's an awesome game so stop trying to cover up and not give credit where it's due. If you knew anything you would know that started making this game 4YEARS ago meaning they didnt even have the developer kits that are out now to help support them making this game into a 50gig game so do your research before you try to flame a game you have no idea about you idiot...PS3 rocks FTW
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devilsadvocate
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I read the summary that was written at the top of the page and responded to that. I am not complaining, I am stating an opinion. Why would I listen to a long podcast on a 360 site when I can just read the summary?
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GunPants
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i'm not a total noob it doesn't take me very long to get thought such a short game. btw ya the shooting parts were OK probly the best parts. and don't tell me you thought the bounce the shield around cr@p was any good, just another way for the devs to get more play time out of it.
ya the play time is not the biggest issue its the fact that it wasn't that fun while playing.
if this game was on 360 you sony guys would be saying how bad it is and saying its short cuz of the DVD well whats your excuse now that the 360 has great games like bioshock and ps3 gets this and warhawk. probly could put both those games on 1 DVD.
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7.1 - You obviously haven't even PLAYED the game.
The combat system is deep and visceral, the cutscenes are amazing, and really the only gripe that I've seen from reviewers is that the shooting sequences weren't very deep compared to the combat, and that the game can be beaten in 8 hours (10 for novices).
You remind me of EliteGamer when he said "I have Motorstorm. It's an OK game. Kind of fun, but it's too short. I beat it in 2 hours, so it's definitely a 7 for me." Of course, he thought there were only 8 races in the game, not 40 (and they are LONG races). You can't even beat the game unless you start getting first place in every race, which is damn hard after Tickets 10 and 11.
Seriously. Stop trying to fool us.
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yea cause bioshock was soooo long right..i rented bioshock because for mostly all FPS are short and there was no exception for this one..yea it's long if you do all the side missions which nobody ever does. My roommate and I both beat this game in no more than 10hours..Gears of War beat in 7-8hours and the story was hella dumb but yet it got good ratings hmm wonder why maybe because it was another shooter on the 360.When they start comparing the length of Gears to the length of halo 2 you know it's short. They only gave bioshock good ratings cause it another dumbass FPS along with 90% of all 360 games which i'm not buying another 360 game until they come out with a variety of different games like ME and LO and not just FPS. For right now i'll enjoy my HS and UT3 on my PS3 with FREE online play. PS3 rocks FTW
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If that game would be on the 360, I'd would give a rats a$$, because I do not comment on 360 games. And I am sure, there are a ton of good 360 games out there.
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(planetxbox360.com):HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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DarkArcani
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And what happens when your flagship Halo 3 comes out, what then? Killing off Halo might be one of the worst mistakes ever for the 360.
At least the PS3 will have awesome games all the way till the end of its life cycle. I'm still waiting for awesome games like God of War 3 and Twisted Metal to be announced. Man I love variety.
Sorry if you will still be playing Halo 3 till the 720 is released in about 2 years, then MS drops the 360 like an unwanted baby in a dumpster. Have fun with all that.
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trane07
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10 - a 360 only site writing about sony and the ps3?
Yeah. Ok. Hes right. We should listen to this podcast in the ps3 section because its VERY informative *end sarcasm* Why the hell would someone bother listen to a 360 only site about the ps3 as if its informative in any sort. Its a shame to see just exactly how far fanboys will go.
Like this is news in any sort of way.....
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Bloodmask
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You only prove me right. How do you know this isn't news if you didn't even listen to it.
Disagree button to the bottom right.
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trane07
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10.2 - You didn't have to tell me that.
I know where the disagree button is. Funny how you call others hypocrites, but fail to address how your dumbass has been in here trolling with anti-ps3/holy 360 crap since forever now.
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PimpHandHappy
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why is it you seem in love with gayness? Btw i wont hit disagree. Ignore works better u homo phobe sally...i would love to hear about all the AAA exclusives the 360 has had this last year!!! Please enlighten me......in fact just tell me what exclusives they have had since Gears.....i would really like to see this awesome list of games....i will check back at half time....
Its funny ppl ask if the PS3 can make up lost ground when its not even a year into its life!! I guess MS did the right thing in all their eyes in making a product that by all acounts is the most faulty consumer electronic in the history of such things. Thats why i see many of them buying more then one 360.....
The person that said he beat HS in 5 hours is a total fony. I killed hundreds of ppl in one room, that room being the fianl battle field. I didnt get stuck on many parts of HS and it took me 7 hours...My buddy beat Bio Shock in two days....13 hours.....If we want to talk about rentals bio shock is right there with HS....sorry but its true
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btw bloodmask you prove daily ur looking for bs on websites that are by name bias....They discuss what went wrong and if Sony can make up lost ground!!! lol all this on a 360 podcast
what a tool bag
and btw i spent maybe 10min bouncing sheilds to open doors and its something u will never see on a 360. 6axis was put to good use and it slowed down the game at just the right times.
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:) I had to get used to it. But then, on that one gate (2nd chapter) where you have to "pillars" left and right to open the door, I killed a whole battery of enemies from one side shooting shields across. That was kind a, eh, unique and experimental, but a lot of fun :) (not that you have to do it this way, you could climb up there and mash 'em).
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12 - one more thing
arrogant is telling ppl you have a 3% fail rate when in fact u know its more like 33%
or maybe u can look at the Anti-trust lawsuits as being brought on by very arrogant ppl..
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There are a lot of hypocrites on here. Everyone of you including me has wrote something negative about another system in your comment sections.
And given the way sony devs works despite a game bombing a second version will be made...that too will bomb.
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13.1 - assassyn360 what do you mean "the way sony devs work?"
360 devs do the same thing-what about viva pinata 2?
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i like how ur avitar pionts towards your own name
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Man WTF?!
Why was an 'article' from a 360 fansite voicing their opinion about the PS3 posted as news?!
Geez, you xbots are sad...don't you have anything better to do?
Pathetic...
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sak500
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Yes like ignoring fools like u .
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beavis4play
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i can only listen to your uninformed bs for so long. and why do you seem to always come into ps3 threads only to start sh1t? you have been ignored.
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15.3 - of course they got no things better to do
their xbox 360 is at a repair shop or they got bored of playin gears and bioshock all day
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Look at how the sony fanboys get so defensive. You can see that they are starting to fall apart. Heavenly Sword is a rental at best for only a 6-7 hour game. Stop trying to add more hours to it. And Gears of War is 8-10 hours and Bioshock is around 15 hours. Don't come on here trying to say "I beat Gears in 4 hours." You sony fanboys are pathetic, you go from laughing at Gears for 8-10 hours and now you say it's okay to have 7 hours of gameplay.
You can start to see that the sony boys are losing hope.
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Iv been playing HS for 8 hours and still not beat it, I think it will take me at least 10 hours so I suppose it depends on the person playing it.
I like how you all come here and attack the PS3. Its a great system and it cannot be denied. You all try and find fault with the PS3 and its games.. FFS GET A LIFE!!!! You say we are loosing hope? you are mistaken my friend, the PS3 life is just beginning!
Just accept that the PS3 has great games as does the 360.
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Demise LOL. Not a chance. 5million consoles shipped/sold is far from Demise. I suggest you look at what the 360 had sold 8 months after release, the PS3 is on par with that but if you take into account that the PS3 has was not released in Europe until March then I would safly say that the PS3 has surpassed 360 sales on the same timescale.
Lair, I cannot comment as I still have not played it.
Heavenly Sword on the other hand is an awesome game. It may not be a AAA but it still freaking rocks.
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DeZimatoR the same reason why 360 Blogs are posted about the Red Ring Of Death. To start a flame war it is as simple as that & Lightning the same can be said about you Sony Droids & leaving a System alone it works both ways not one but we all know that is never going to happen.
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the problem with your belief is simple: the RROD is a fact. and reporting facts is not starting a flame war. it's just relaying factual info. this article is nothing more than very subjective opinions from followers of microsoft.
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19 - First night how old are you?
did u read anything ppl have said....or did u just make up your own mind b4 sharing your insight in the PS3 and its owners? Where did someone say Gears (on this thread) was short and therefor a waste of money?
If HS is a rental at 7 hours then so is Bio Shock at 13! Both can be beat in a day or two!
I know anyone that has played HS or Warhawk or RFOM have not lost hope. We understand it takes time for a system to get games and we have had a glimpse into what the games will be like on a PS3.
I had u on ignore and you proved to me its where you belong...
peace little kid
make sure mommy cuts the crust of ur sandwich
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19.1 - "if HS is a rental at 7 hours then so is Bio Shock at 13! Both can be beat in a day or two! "
defending a 7 hour game with one that is almost double its size doesnt make your argument any stronger....in fact it makes you look like a child supporting his favorite game..which also nullifys your asking how old first knight it. ..you give someone the choice of paying for the short game or the longer one, I myself would pick bioshock if i owned both systems.....graphics are nice on hs but face it..we are paying too much for games these days and 7-8 hours wont cut it.
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i beat resistance in jan. but am still playing it today. it's that good. still playing motorstorm and ninja gaiden sigma as well. for 10 months in, the ps3 is doing pretty good.
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20 - sorry bloodmask
you won't win any money this month with crappy articles.
general mart would say,"this article is not good enough to bash ps3.""you need to do better my lieutenants."
all these ps3 games coming out are proving you wrong bloodmask about cell.seems optimized for games to me.you and people like you can't stop the train that is coming your way.halo3 will sell well,but it won't help system sales skyrocket.casuals won't get it.
soon,you wil be telling us why microsoft doesn't have to be worried about being in second place when nintendo passes them.because their(MS) 2008 lineup will put them back on top............um.....yeah.... .
demise.......when sony sold 102 million ps1s(and making profit on psn with ps1 games).sold 119+ ps2s(and making profit) and climbing.sells 25+ million psps(and making profit) in a nintendo controlled portable market when all other portables have failed.10 months and the fanboys are fearing "100 million threepeat."
........................mag lev super train..................
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But the Wii is in a different category then the xbox and ps3...this next gen war is between the next gen...dont you agree or since the wii is beating the xbox you decide it is on par with both systems? The cheaper console will always win out...when the ps3 is 400 bucks as rumors state there will be a change in sales im sure. But until then the Wii will dominate.
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21 - HarryEtTubMan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your Dumb
The xbox 360 has been out for 2 years and only sold 11 million consoles.
So your going to compare the ps3 numbers to the xbox. The ps3 has been out for almost a year now and is just now hitting 4 million. so on average it should be around 8 million consoles in 2 years. Hell i'll even give them an extra million because i'm feeling generous. So 9 million consoles.
Looks like your down 2 million buddy. Not to mention you can get an xbox 360 for 279 and still have to pay 500 for a ps3. Well that sucks.
I own both consoles, and to be quite honest the ps3 has potential, it's just been priced way to high, doesn't have a very good online feel, and well throws a bunch of hipe into the air and doesn't deliver on much of it at all.
But then again the ps3 hasn't broken on me like the 360 did, although it only broke once, and has been perfect from that point forward. (i bought the first generation of them, about 5 days after the launch)
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