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[UPDATE] Forza 2 - Crashes (hardware)
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A response has been posted by Christian "Squido" Owens which is the Turn 10 Test Manager. Essentially what is said is Forza 2 does not cause hardware failure, and if you're having hardware problems follow troubleshooting procedures for those problems. Included in these hardware problems are the repeated freezing or crashing many have been reporting.
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Crazyglues
- 923 days 20 hours ago
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1 - Does it really cause your 360 to crash - well yes, and No. but surely Maybe.
For one games really don't cause problems for the system unless some piece of code has a serious error - and this is usually weeded out in the beta testing... and Highly unlikely.
However - A game can be the cause of your systems death, because some games make the system run harder then others and if your system is close to overheating then yes, this game will push it over the top.
Especially if you play for a long period.
Gears of War is also a system pusher, simply because it tends to make the CPU and graphics card scream - causing serious heat. Another game that causes serious heat, PGR3, when walking around the garage looking at your cars.
So does the game really damage your 360 - well yes and no - No if your system is well ventilated an receives cool air during game play.
Yes if your system is close to death and is just waiting for that one game that has the power to keep the 360 running hot - yes this is that game. (Even if no one else will tell you the truth, you can't say I didn't just tell you it).
-Don't hate the messenger, hate the message.
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HokieFan
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It sounds silly, but I do have two friends who had launch 360's working perfectly until Gears of War. Both got the rings a couple of hours into that game. There might be some truth to the game pushing the system to overheat. Never thought that software could actually break the hardware.
Of course, I've since yelled at both of them since they had their 360 in very tight areas. My well ventilated system is working beautifully after many hours on Gears as well as Forza.
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ChronoTrigger87
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1.2 - bubble for you
i like the explaination. bubble4u.
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Crazyglues
- 923 days 18 hours ago
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1.3 - Thanks
Thank you I appreciate it..... I like bubbles. ..LoL
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duckman2470
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1.4 - Games dont break systems
Games Dont break systems, The 360 is capable of running exactly what the developers are createing and programing. The problem is the 360 was not designed correctly, Its a lemon design. To be put in laymans terms, The 360 parts (GPU, CPU ,Memory etc..) Can handle the games however because of the Faulty 360 Design and cooling the system overheats just like it always has and Bricks. Again The componets are doing there job well but the root cause is the very poor cooling design in the 360.
Example: What happens when you attempt to run a High end game on a PC that does not have the minimum Requirments ( game requires a Pentium4 3Ghz CPU,512MB system Memory and a 256MB video card But instead you install it on a Pentium3 2GHZ CPU,256mb system memory with a 128MB video card) The PC WONT break or burn up the only thing that would happen is the game would run slower, not look as good and lag. IT WOULD NOT OVERHEAT AND BREAK like the 360 does.
Why dont a PC System cook when you push it beyond what it can handle "Because each part (CPU, Videocard etc..) was designed correctly, Its heatsinks, fans etc where designed and tested to keep that part within its Heating specs.
Unfortunatly the same can not be said for Microsofts xbox 360 as it was thrown together in a hurry with proper cooling overlooked all in a effort to save a few more dollars in manufactureing.
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tehcellownu
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xbots will probaly be scared to played forza especially if they got the 3 redlights already..i know for sure games do brick the 360...but im glad micrsoft is not doin anythin..because it the long run its goin to hurt them badly..
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gta_cb
- 922 days 18 hours ago
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fanboy, get a better life.... or maybe just try getting a life.
i play Forza Motorsport 2 alot, and i havnt had any problems with it.
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P4KY B
- 923 days 20 hours ago
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3 - Seroius question here
Do more 360's break in warmer countries?
I live in Scotland. Its never warm here. I dont know anyone who had the 3 ring except 1 friend who tried to mod his.
Are 360's indestructible in Norway?
Does the 3 rings happen more in places like Texas or Spain. (in houses with no A/C)
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HokieFan
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I kinda doubt it since most 360's would be in climate controlled houses. I would sooner think that it has more to do with which countries got the first bad batches of the system. Norway might not have received many of the original systems that seem to have most of the problems. I don't know anyone who had a system break if they bought it after the first few months.
EDIT: I guess I was just trying to say that generally if people can afford to drop $400+ for a video game system, they probably have A/C if they need it. Obviously in Scotland (or Norway) they don't have much need for A/C.
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P4KY B
- 923 days 19 hours ago
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3.2 - @3.1
'most 360's would be in climate controlled houses' LOL
Maybe in the US but not scotland i've never heard of anyone who has A/C here.
But i get your point.
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Dlacy13g
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3.3 - @ P4KY B
Well.by default I think your houses are in climate control. I mean honestly...does the weather ever change there? Overcast and rain in the forecast for the next...millenium! ;) jk
really though I think it could be an issue if you live in a hot area and you do nothing to keep your equipment cool. i.e. so if you live in a desert area...dont put your box inside a closed cabinet.
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M4RK1988
- 923 days 19 hours ago
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4 - USB Fans?
Do USB fans work in the 360's USB ports?
Might stick one behind my 360.
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Forza works fine on mine
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Ignorant Fanboy
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7 - Mine locked up twice,
After about 4 hours of straight Forza, my screen froze.
I hit the guide button, went to the dashboard, rebooted forza and played another 4 hours.
A week later this happened again. But Im back in the race in less than a minute so its no big deal.
No hardware issues here on a launch console.
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PC Gaming Refugee
- 923 days 6 hours ago
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7.1 - I read your comment history via your profile
I doubt you even have a Xbox 360.
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power of Green
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It doesnt cause problems thats why the only people filling these Forza crash threads are angry sony fanboys looking to bash and why no 360 fans are gathering complaining.
#31.1 don't be an idiot "most 360's would be in climate controlled houses", even if that were true(which it isn't) there would still be units at risk by locations and sheer numbers its only common sense that warmer climates will put 360's at rist you keep it cool LIKE THE MANUAL SAYS TO! IT WILL BE FINE, THE MANUAL EVEN GIVES YOU A TEMPETURE RANGE TO KEEP THE 360 FOR OPERATION YOU'LL NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM
This is whats happening.
* Storing the 360 in cubbys or entertainment centers with poor air flow(use open TV stand.
* Smoking cigs and Pot which leaves smothering residue on hardware thus killing the 360(example turning things yellow/brown and pot hot boxing which covers everything in a smothering coat aswell. Had a person on my friends list that smokes marry jane her 360 broke and MS told her not to smoke because whatever she smoked left a layer of residue like a layer of plastic not the first time i heard Crazzy use of pot is lethal to the 360 open a window if you must smoke as if thats going to happen though).
* Dusty house with dust covering the hardware blocking cool air in a already limited air flow designed 360(shape)( dust your house if living in a dusty area use a vacume cleaner and vacume out the vents and tray opening).
* Hot House(cool it down if you can)
* Hot climate( cool it down if you can or limit use you live in great outside weather)
* Laying on floor or anywhere you want being dumb adults or careless kids( do not lay on rug putting toys pizza boxs and clothing on the 360)
**** Huge chunk of 360 owners probably have all of the above conditions. lol All divices have their own operation standard to operate properly to say it should operate like something else is moronic at best.CRT's can operate with humidifiers while LCD's can not, should you run a LCD with a humidifier pressent NO! should you compare and complain it should be like the CRT NO! but only if you must.
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HokieFan
- 923 days 13 hours ago
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8.1 - Excuse Me?
"don't be an idiot "most 360's would be in climate controlled houses", even if that were true(which it isn't)"
Why would you call me an idiot? If you disagree with me, calmly explain your point of view. Why the name calling? I used to think you were just bold enough to say what a lot of 360 owners were thinking, now I agree with the Sony fans...you're just an a$$.
By the way, how many people do you know with 360's that put them in their treehouse? Did you even read my comment? Or the comment I was responding to? Or do you just pick some random line in comment somewhere and start throwing insults? Why am I an idiot for assuming that people who have enough disposable income to buy a 360 probably also have enough to have A/C? Is that really an absurd statement?
I was just trying to say that perhaps 360's breaking less in Scotland had less to do with climate and more to do with Microsoft's shipping patterns. That makes me an idiot?
I think it's idiotic to completely dismiss my point (that I admitted is a guess) by stating something as fact ("even if that were true(which it isn't)") without any proof. Get off your high horse. I'm sorry to tell you this, but you do NOT know everything.
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benny o klaatt
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yep i can vouch for the pot smoking destroying 360's lol on my third now but as long as they replace for free with a free face plate and a free months sub i can afford the stuff lol.
my setup. excuse the crappy camera
oh yeah your pot smoking lady friend sounds cool, can i have her gamertag lol
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Bullseye
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9 - Well, the reason was obvious
but its still nice to have it confirmed.
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hmmm im not a technical genious but a day before the froza 2 game came out i got my xbox 360 back *and this is my third XBOX!!* its brand new and when i got forza i played it for a while until about 2 weeks later it started freezing up the game some of the tracks looked like they were about to freakin idk what to call it but its like the damn screen was turning black and some track were perfectly fine but ..Tsukuba, Sebring, and parts of laguna Seca were all like i can see through weird shyt if u ask me and even so it freezes the game all my other games i have i tested dont do that only forza 2 so far soo right now its at the bottom of the pile bc i really do NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! want to go on to my 4TH FUKIN SYSTEM! call me crazy if u want but if your still on your 1st one you couldnt possibly understand how fukin frustrating it is!!
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