Forza 3: No weather, night or rally racing

Raiinstorm81 - 182 days 7 hours ago

It looks like a great racing game for xbox but GT is and has always been in another league.

I always thought the compairisons were stupid but hey Turn 10 asked for it. Maybe they will learn to just focus on their own game and not the competitors.

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The Xbox Empire - 182 days 7 hours ago

Forza isn't GT and GT isn't Forza. Forza might not have rally and night racing but it will have many things and features GT5 won't have. They aren't trying to make the exact same game. lol

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Hellsvacancy - 182 days 7 hours ago

But wot can Forza add that Gt hasnt already got? drink drivin perhaps

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green - 182 days 7 hours ago

fully detailed vehicle undercarriage for cars and introduction of not just damage but full vehicle roll overs.

-Full vehicle engine,drivetrain,gearbox,igni tion,engine block and tires swap.Option to add superchargers,turbochargers or take it out to reduce weight.And also the freedom to tune even further each and every single aspect of the car from camber,tire pressure,roll bars,gear ratios,ride height,aerodynamics,springs,da mpers,braking pressure and differentials.

-Partnership with every major tire manufacturer from Pirelli,Avon,Yokohama,Bridgest one and Michelin to get fully detailed "Tire Flexing" data from them.(The 1st in a console racing game).

-Car paint customization and 2 auction houses for Cars/tuning and paint.

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Major_Tom - 182 days 7 hours ago

And yet the cars don't control nearly anything like their real life counter-parts.

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The Xbox Empire - 182 days 7 hours ago

Does GT have an online auction house with every motorsport part you could ever dream of? Customization of everything is a huge part of Forza and GT doesnt have anything remotely close. Car roll over and realistic damage that Forza has had since the first game? Tire flex which actually effects how the cars drive and the physics? Le mans 24 hour race in France? Rewind features if you mess up?

Turn 10 hasn't announced all the features yet(it was just announced at E3)...and specifically all the online/online trading features, there will be more. It's safe to say both will have features that the other game won't, it's 2 different teams making 2 different games.

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Blogs4Fanboyzz - 182 days 7 hours ago

well said have a bubble.

hells vacancy: see the comment from green....plus in forza, you cant be in last place and ride every single car on a corner and end up in first place....just like you can in the real driving sim that is GT.

thas rite, its sooo much like real life. i always see the same thing happening in races. a car steams at full speed upto a corner, and just rides every other car into first place. heck, i even do it on the way to work when those pesky peons aint driving fast enough and i'm going to be late.

bottom line, forza and gt have turned into the new battleground for this ongoing nerd-war! i'm fortunate enough to have both consoles, and intend to buy both games. both look stunning, and both will be great without a doubt.

cant we just leave it at that?

quick kids, hit the disagree button, it's great when you do.

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Hellsvacancy - 182 days 7 hours ago

But all that bollocks would probably require a 3rd a disk :-P

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The Xbox Empire - 182 days 7 hours ago

"And yet the cars don't control nearly anything like their real life counter-parts. "

Says who? Is that why Forza is the higher rated Racing sim since becoming a franchise? Faulty and make believe opinions don't matter.

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ThanatosDMC - 182 days 7 hours ago

I think people are talking about when a car in Forza 3 drove on grass at full speed without any problems especially a spinout when it was turning.

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Raiinstorm81 - 182 days 7 hours ago

No no no

Forza'S TWO games are not higher rated than the entire GT series. We are on Forza 3 and the series has yet to reach GT2 car count i think it matched GT1 car count though. I like Forza customization but detailed undercarrage dosent draw me in, the real driving does and IMHO GT offers more like three games in one more. NASCAR, RALLY, REG Sim Racing. With the feature on forza to rewind if you lose or mess up during a race takes Sim out of the game.

@ major tom - you beat me to it i hate the rewind idea in forza and madden thats not simulation.

@ green - if you think GRASS will stop a car going over 100 MPH you are crazy. You may spin out but not everytime you touch grass and you do spin out in the grass on GT if you dont know what you are doing. All of which is REAL. i could see if it was MUD.

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green - 182 days 7 hours ago

You can not drive a car across a field in Forza if you want to win a race.The car will either spin off or grind to a halt.But in GT5P,driving across the field and bumping into your opponents gives you an edge. http://www.gametrailers.com...

EDIT:@ Simonsaysbuyps3: I have played GT5p extensively that is why i know what i am talking about.That track is the Suzuka Circuit and in Gt5p you can just cut across the grass in the final S-curve to gain an advantage.That is a complete impossibility in Forza and taking that corner at any thing less than 70% efficiency can cost you up to a second when playing online, be it with all driving aids turned off or on.

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Major_Tom - 182 days 7 hours ago

Yah, On a straight away, you lose speed by nearly half and in the final iteration damage has been added as a penalty for the rough stuff.

Your definition of 'driving across a field' is definitely exaggerated.

Edit: YA okay 'Green' that's why you can ski over the grass and sand in Forza right because it's so realistic. Please.

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Natsu X FairyTail - 182 days 7 hours ago

NNNW wrote in a comment at the bottom

"I don't have much interest in racing games but..
I watched the developers' diary video thru the link and they mention a lot about tires and how they are affected by the weather, exhaust etc. Why would they talk so much about the weather/tires if there is "no weather" in the game?"

he does make a point there.

lets not judge the game ok.

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SimonSaysBuyPs3 - 182 days 6 hours ago

that trailers not in pro physic, and any way, trust me, I am a GT fan, I would know, you do slow down realistically in GT5p when you go wide on the grass, the sand is the real killer.

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edgeofblade - 182 days 6 hours ago

"Better"

Why are we still obsessing over the minor details like this? Is it that important to stick a "Best" label on something?

Oh that's right. You're insecure children... I keep forgetting...

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Raiinstorm81 - 182 days 6 hours ago

GT1 - night racing
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GT2 - Rally

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GT3 - weather

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

These are not new features

@ Disagreeing Fanboys

I guess its true, the Truth does Hurt

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Greywulf - 182 days 6 hours ago

- Painting
- engine swaps
- Tire flexing

Forza3 is NOT the first console game to include Tire Flex.. Need for speed shift already has it. They hired the programmer from the best PC rally racer to program for the title as well.

Who do you think started partnerships with tire companies in the first place? It wasn't forza.

Pretending that undercarriage modeling has anything to do with a driving simulator is just pedestrian.

Forza3 lacks any changes from Forza2 outside of cosmetics.

No weather
8 cars
No pit animations
No light cycles
No Rally
No Nascar

And the cars all look plastic because they don't reflect the track. Like GT does.

Forza3 is an arcade game at this point, with features like REWINDING AND FLIPPING OVER! lol. The Gotham kids should love this!

@ La Chance

Inferior products don't take long to make. hence the no new upgrades in forza3 outside of using hdri to light unrealistic looking vehicles that roll over and rewind.

F4 will probably be out in a few months like L4D with a brand new 60.00 price tag.

Definitive racer has 0 features & A psp game has more vehicles. lol.

lol @ 8 cars on nuburgring or lesarthe.. talk about not enough to even keep it competitive.

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SimonSaysBuyPs3 - 182 days 6 hours ago

Yes true, you can use the first corner on suzuka as a shortcut, it came in hand for the F40 race near the end.
I dont know if that is realistc or not. Anyway the point is, try and excelerate out of grass, in any GT, and see how much impact it has on the drivers throttle response. crashing to a halt in GT, is bad.

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XboxUltimateAlliance - 182 days 6 hours ago

lol Rainstorm do you want some kind of prize or something.

Foza isn't GT.

They don't have all the same features. Has GT has full damage, car rollover, full vehicle engine,drivetrain,gearbox,igni tion,engine block and tires swap.Option to add superchargers,turbochargers or take it out to reduce weight.And also the freedom to tune even further each and every single aspect of the car from camber,tire pressure,roll bars,gear ratios,ride height,aerodynamics,springs,da mpers,braking pressure and differentials.(Thanks Green)

How about an auction house to trade parts and awesome paint jobs you know you couldnt make on your own? You cant even do paint customization in GT, much less autotunning, body kits and everything else.

Does GT have a tire sweel system that makes the cars behave in a realistic nature around curves and it you go off balance?

There are many more features to be announced for forza3, its still months away and we already know all these things.

Forza isnt GT, they aren't going to go do the exact same things.

So whats your point? You have none, do you?

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Greywulf - 182 days 6 hours ago

full damage - Yes - gt5
car rollover - No most arcade games have this though, not most sims
full vehicle engine - no
drivetrain - yes
gearbox - yes
igni tion - Yes
engine block -no
tires swap - yes
Option to add superchargers,turbochargers - yes
reduce weight -yes
And also the freedom to tune even further each and every single aspect of the car from
camber -yes
tire pressure -yes
roll bars - yes
gear ratios - yes
ride height - yes
aerodynamics - yes
springs -yes
dampers -yes
braking pressure -yes
differentials -yes

Thats the problem here, you guys have no idea what you're talking about.

How many Forza2 racers have turned professional? None.

how many cars have Turn10 made?none.

How many times has ferrari debuted their new vehicles in forza3? none.

What systems for the Nissan GTR has turn10 been asked to do?None.

Again, Forza3 has nothing but cosmetic changes.. Forza2 allegedly had a dynamic tire model, yet the games physics were 100% terrible. If you want to pretend otherwise compare f3 replays to f2.. tell me f2's cars aren't gliding around the world. Thats the best thing about f3, it shows how terrible and beneath gt5p f2 was physically and graphically.

Just stop. Swapping an engine is a great feature to have, as are a few others that forza have. But they don't matter when the games physics aren't realistic. And they will more than likely be added to GT5. Which is creaming f3 when it comes to features.

Is forza3 better because of 5 features? lol. Please.

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Raiinstorm81 - 182 days 5 hours ago

Majority of the features you just named was in GT1. Yes Forza has features that GT wont have, will it make it a better game? i love the customization and auction house though

Although Turn 10 has had a steady stream of pot shots at PD, yet you cant match GT's car count or have basic features that has become a staple of GT years ago. Turn 10 said "they have the racing sim crown because GT didnt show up" well they dont have to show up Forza has yet to surpass previous GT games in many ways.

I know they wont both be the same but dont try to defend the fact that a car can flip over with a detailed undercarrage but it cant have a night racing stage. Even MIDNIGHT club had day racing. Its called game evolution but im sure you arent used to that.

@ sox fan

I prefer GT4 less cars means less replayability especially when neither of those GT games were online. But the difference is small in ratings all of the games were rated fairly high, GT2 was rated high and it had 600 cars. This is why we are still waiting for GT because they dont want to start off with a 150 car count GT this gen like on PS1 and PS2.

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soxfan2005 - 182 days 5 hours ago

"Definitive racer has 0 features & A psp game has more vehicles. lol."

"We are on Forza 3 and the series has yet to reach GT2 car count i think it matched GT1 car count"

That's why GT3, with 150 cars, is much higher rated than GT4, with 800 cars. You guys just don't get it, it's about the quality of the racing, not number of cars in the game. But, if quantity is more important to you than quality, that's your choice.

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Blogs4Fanboyzz - 182 days 5 hours ago

do you work for polophony digital? because you're trying to hard my friend.

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JOLLY1 - 182 days 5 hours ago

I am so glad that Turn 10 is stinking to the 360 calculations per second. It is nice to know that there is a calculation being done every couple of inches, not every couple of feel like most other sims.

*EDIT* Sorry I am not quite like you grey. Trust me, I'd take the physics in Forza over gt anyday. I used to be a very big supporter of gt, then I played Forza 1. There is a huge difference. Maybe when you get a car some day, you will notice the difference.

You should really post some pics of your car. Ah... willow springs, the official track used when people want to pretend that they race. You're funny.

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Greywulf - 182 days 5 hours ago

Im trying too hard. Thats the "buh buh well I have nothing to say" response by the way.

I know you guys love to live in denial. Which you can continue to do.Im just shocked that people didn't know you could do all of that in GT.

@jolly

You're glad Turn10 is making a game for the 360.. no matter how bad the physics are, like f2.. you'll still love it :). Nothing wrong with that either. And when Turn10 comes out and says for F4 that "ok ok THIS time we REALLY nailed the physics" You will throw f3 under the bus and pretend f4 is the best sim on consoles ever :) The best thing that could happen to the forza franchise, is F3 highlighting how bad F2 was.

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Jolly, my stillen g35 coupe says other wise. As do my track days at Willow Springs.

Please just stop. Its clear why you LOVE forza, its because you like to live in fantasy worlds of physics to where your lap times in the games reflect no lap times on real courses in the world, at all.You can't even use a real steering wheel with/FFB forza, and you STILL cant until october.

How about you and I race IRL :) I'd love to take your pinkslip. Or just your dignity :)

edit:

more dodging from jolly :), denial is hilarious.

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darkride66 - 182 days 5 hours ago

His account is only an hour old, he's openly admitted it's a duplicate account and he's already started belittling other members on these forums for their opinions. I don't think that account is going to be around for long.

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xwabbit - 182 days 5 hours ago

Y are people talking about GT5 here ? Let the 360 only owners have half the game GT5 will be, but its something. No need to bring it up cus some will get mad and start disagreeing with facts, with their multiple accounts which i see they keep making.

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Greywulf - 182 days 5 hours ago

its hard to keep up with you guys.. since the 360 has had nothing but underwhelming releases outside of Gears & Fable since 2008. So scores matter now? Scores used to matter when people aren't getting fired for lying about reviews.

I mean, I thought prototype was better than infamous even though it flopped with scores?

Uncharted & Ratchet are better games than most of the 360's entire lineup with a score of 89 and below. I mean even though Banjo Flopped, wasn't there still a die hard community? lol.

Scores wont create more cars on track for F3, night/weather, Rally, or a better realistic simulation.

edit:

Damage control??? No im just pointing out the gigantic failure of 360 games to score well since fable2. Velvet Assasin, race pro, ninja blade, banjo kazooie, and whatever else wasn't AAA. And how it doesn't seem to matter that PS3 games score higher, until well.. it "matters" :) then scores are some how some pillar of quality? Im in the boat that scores don't matter, because of how busted the system is, but when the PS3 is in the lead with scores.. it gets no credit. Just when its behind.

edit @ jolly

IRl = In real life... not the irl series. its Internet jargon, like "LOL","TTYL& ;amp ;quo t;,"BRB". I know you can't dispute what I said about forzas unrealistic physics/hotlaps/feedback, so its good to see you want to pretend you know something about cars using the wikipedia & google. --which is why this is pointless but ill play along--

You can't dispute any of what I've said about Forza, so you're on a mission to try to discredit my track days and my vehicle? Well.. have at it.. I'm here :) its a 03 coupe w/sports package, and thats just my track car. I drive a 08 rs4 as my dd.

As Walter Sobchak so eloquently put it.. you're out of your element .... jolly.

I know you just have a wrx. And i'd spank you any day of the week.

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JOLLY1 - 182 days 5 hours ago

I would love to know what # you are. How is Danica? I hear she can be a hot head. You are really funny grey. Which year g35 do you have? I have some questions for you regarding whatever year you have. Yes I know a poop-ton about cars. I really can't wait to hear back from you. This will be fun. I would really like to see you in the rear view of the STi.

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na2ru1 - 182 days 4 hours ago

not the competition and that's what Polyphony are setting out to do.

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evrfighter - 182 days 4 hours ago

"car rollover - No most arcade games have this though, not most sims "

no eyebrows are raised when you read that?

car rollover's are either

A) Realistic
or
B) Unrealistic

One or the other. A "True" sim would include this would it not?

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 182 days 4 hours ago

GT3 had more than 500 cars. not 150. the reason why GT3 was rated higher than GT4 was because there was no big change, other than the fact that it had more cars and more tracks than GT3, and of course physics changes. just like how GT1 scored higher than GT2.

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SL1M DADDY - 182 days 4 hours ago

What a joke! I was at least expecting that with two DVD's and only 400 vehicles that they could at least toss in a night driving level or some dirt tracks. And this is supposed to compete with GT? Really?

@ La Chance - Oh so when you cannot compete on your sales data you bring up meta scores? Just another pathetic excuse for lack of features...

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Greywulf - 182 days 4 hours ago

You don't hit a wall in an r8 and roll over. The arcade setup in forza3 has vehicles rolling over at a simple wall collision.Its very rare to roll over a vehicle, and when it happens its the end of the race. Its not realistically simulated at all-- it looks cool, but not really.. realistic.

Most true PC sims don't have vehicles rolling over. Because its like simulating a freak accident.

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WEL - 182 days 3 hours ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Polyphony Digital is so great that they not just made the dashboard for the newer GT-R, they even designed an entire car for real life!

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pixelsword - 182 days 3 hours ago

"customization" is not the focus here; The driving (where the word "simulation" applies) and "realistic car ownership" is key, not anything else; where the GT series is king.

Although you *can* -in reality- custom-build your Lamborghini with all sorts of custom parts, -in reality- very few people ever do steer away from the original colour and build of the cars. When a woman has a very beautiful face, a woman rarely pierces and tats it up because she wants the world to know that she is a beautiful woman. To make a parallel, person who has a Lamborghini rarely goes bananas with the customization to the point that people have to take a good look to see what kind of car they drive, because they want the world to know it's a Lamborghini... with it's almost stereotypical yellow, red, or grey colour.

Now, DON'T get me wrong, I'm not in any way trying to justify why GT doesn't have the myriad of options for customization, but people have to realize that GT is for car buffs, not people who aren't car buffs. Look at Jay Lenno; he is an avid car collector, he doesn't trick-out any of his cars, although he (if anyone who collects cars) can: because car collectors want a pristine replica of the car when it rolls off of the assembly line. Gran Turismo basically caters to the same mindset a car collector would have, making such options unnecessary.

Although, I might add, I wouldn't be offended if they did add such pomp; as I am not a car collector, avid or otherwise.

:P

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cmrbe - 182 days 2 hours ago

Froza 3 is now only catching up to what GT have done last gen on the PS2. GT has moved on from the shiny/glossy plastic car models with photo realistic car models and lighting.

Physics wise Froza 3 is a joke.

Well at least its on two DVD's. Something that it can be proud of equaling with GT last gen lol!.

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Sarcasm - 182 days 2 hours ago

"THE DEFINITIVE RACING GAME OF THIS GENERATION."

"No weather, night racing, or rally in the game."

LMAO

Still getting it though. But the more they talk about the game, the more apparent that guy at Turn 10 is an idiot.

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Sarcasm - 182 days 2 hours ago

"You don't hit a wall in an r8 and roll over. The arcade setup in forza3 has vehicles rolling over at a simple wall collision.Its very rare to roll over a vehicle, and when it happens its the end of the race. Its not realistically simulated at all-- it looks cool, but not really.. realistic."

Forget about the roll over. The video in Forza 3 shows the guy going 90mph out into the grass, slides and hits the wall on the passenger side. Yet the car tips to the left and he keeps going full speed on the grass. That's some serious Daytona USA physics right there.

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The realness - 182 days 2 hours ago

now your just making stuff up. i dont recall skiing across the grass in forza 2. If you think GT is more realistic than forza ,then you clearly have never driven a car , much less a performance car...

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GUNS N SWORDS - 182 days 1 hour ago

"Forza 3: No weather, night or rally racing"

.......now tell me that those options can't be applied as DLC, and turn 10 already said that forza3's getting a lot of DLC.

"Sorry Turn 10 be quiet next time
GT1 - night racing
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GT2 - Rally

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GT3 - weather

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

These are not new features"

GT's finally getting car damage....you think that's a new feature, EVERY racing game this generation had that.

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PshycoNinja - 182 days ago

"Also included for the first time will be dynamic weather changes and damage modeling. Night races will return from previous Gran Turismogames. Full licenses from WRC and NASCAR will also be featured."

edit- @GUNS N SWORDS
main wording, THIS GEN, GT5 is the first full fledged GT THIS GEN!

edit 2- @GUNS N SWORDS

Sorry but I dont feel like paying for features that should have been in the game already.

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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 182 days ago

(PshycoNinja)

your just trying to spin this around,

what's cheaper for a 360 gamer selling their 360's to find them selves short of picking up a ps3 with GT5 OR, going to a bestbuy or a game store and picking up a copy of forza3?

and most of all, for the people who don't own either console, what's cheaper,

out right buying a ps3 and getting GT5 or getting a 360 with forza3 and paying $5 to $10 extra for more content?

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tootiFrooti - 182 days ago

" bububu.........RARRRGH MY GT 5 IS BETTER THAN YOUR FORZA 3!! I MUST DEFEND GT5's HONOR ON N4G RIGHT NOW IN THIS FORZA 3 NEWS PIECE! I MUST PROVE GT5's SUPERIORITY TO ALL FORZA FANS! I WILL DEFEND YOUR HONOR GT5!!!" - sentiments of a meaningless internet fanboy

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PshycoNinja - 181 days 23 hours ago

How am I spinning this?

Iam not asking for 360 gamers to go buy a PS3 and GT5. Its just all these 360 Fanboys are saying theres not certain feats in GT5 when most of the feats they are talking about are in GT5P. By all means if you only have a 360 then buy F3. All I'm trying to do is clear up any confusion with GT5.

P.S. and yes I do disagree with Turn 10's statement about them being the "definative" racing SIM.

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Nelson M - 181 days 13 hours ago

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 182 days 6 hours ago

...because i need 4 Wheels to drive the Cars in this Game!!! ;-D

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WEL - 182 days 3 hours ago

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Polyphony Digital is so great that they not just made the dashboard of the newer GT-R, they even designed an entire car for real life!

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Tony Scarboni - 182 days ago

I mean, c'mon, I don't expect you to be as awesome as GT and include WRC, but no weather, no day and night!? Those things have pretty much been staples for racing sims since the beginning of this gen! Blur and Shift both have those things!

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Stubacca - 181 days 23 hours ago

People are actually comparing Forza to GT??? When in the hell did Forza get that good?

Forza has always looked garbage. Gran Turismo is the ultimate racing sim. Nothing else comes close.

I'm starting to wonder if the bots may have brain damage. Maybe another side-effect of dodgy hardware?

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Bill Gates - 181 days 21 hours ago

AAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH.... ...wait just give me a second.......AAHAHAAHHAAHHHAAH HHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAA

BABOONS GET OWNED YET AGAIN.....AHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AAHHA

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jBat17 - 181 days 16 hours ago

what? at least have some night racing. and capped at 8 cars on track? is this a psOne game? well, it looks like one, graphically, compared to GT5

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DJ - 182 days 6 hours ago

No need to attack 360 owners. Blame MS.

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dustgavin - 182 days 5 hours ago

Hopefully, that helps you feel better about Forza being the gimped game with lackluster features.

You get what you pay for. Ps3 games are continuing to push the envelope while 360 games are having to cut features due to technical limitations of the system.

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talltony - 182 days 4 hours ago

fanboy comment much??
So you feel obligated to diss the ps3 when a article like this comes out? ironic.
Their is no night or rain effects in forza 3 which is absolutely no excuse for. If you like racing games then this really really sux!

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Insomnia_84 - 182 days 3 hours ago

Most Retarded Comment Of The Year

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Nelson M - 181 days 13 hours ago

Speakin outa his Ass Again !!!

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Thet3 - 181 days 10 hours ago

They dont even have definitive weather! lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wiimaniac - 182 days 5 hours ago

Meta Score:

http://www.metacritic.com/s...
1. Xbox: Forza Motorsport (2005) [92]
2. Xbox 360: Forza Motorsport 2 (2007) [90]

vs

http://www.metacritic.com/s...
1. Playstation: Gran Turismo (1998) [96]
2. Playstation: Gran Turismo 2 (1999) [93]
3. Playstation 2: Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec (2001) [95]
4. Playstation 2: Gran Turismo 4 (2005) [89]
5. Playstation 3: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (2008) [80] <--- This one is just a demo
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GT5:P vs Forza 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gameplay of GT5:Prologue:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gran Turismo 5 trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gran Turismo 5 will have Rally, Nascar, Drifting and Circuit races with fantastic visuals and lots of cars, plus, everything this article says that Forza 3 will not have... The poor Forza 3 is limited to DVD-9 and crappy visuals. Enjoy your arcade sim while I enjoy the real driving simulator. =D

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Wiimaniac - 182 days 5 hours ago

Double post? WTF? Nooooooooo my last bubble!!!!

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Insomnia_84 - 182 days 3 hours ago

Seriously man, STFU!!

Every single comment from you is just retarded and lacks knowledge.

STFU

PLEASE!

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zag - 181 days 18 hours ago

Sure I can tell you why GT is better than Forza.

GT has always been about simulating how a car handles in real life, a lot of people complain bitterly about the Lic tests in GT, that's because they don't understand how to drive a racing line in real life so try to apply their basic driving skills to something that isn't about basic driving skills but racing skills.

A lot of Euro racing drivers and euro training centres use GT to show skills and practise tracks and lines on and then goto the car and then apply those lines in real life, The times you get on a track in GT you can get in real life on the same track and I mean driving properly not smashing into stuff along the way.

You'll note that I said Euorpe and not USA as there's no real racing scene in the US it's pretty much just Nascar and a few other things going on where as in Europe it has a huge amount of different types of racing going on at all times of the year.

Forza's major problem is that it's never really been about a sim but something on the 360 to just complete with GT, where as GT hasn't been about competeing with Forza, But trying to simulate real life so it's competeing with that.

In terms of tuning, GT has always had car parts, this is because you can only change car parts in real life (tuning is something comletely different) changing parts on a car will either increase or decrase the overall power of the engine, I've not seen what the tuning is in Forza but from your reply I get the impression it's done via numbers which wouldn't be correct tuning of a car.

Wheather means nothing as you can't do anything about wheather but simply deal with it.

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Murderdolls - 181 days 12 hours ago

So the latest GT game scored lower out of all other actual GT games and all Forza games? Not looking too good.

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Murderdolls - 181 days 12 hours ago

Says Mac guy.

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Nelson M - 181 days 12 hours ago

Is in a Purple Eyeliner Mood Today

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Murderdolls - 181 days 12 hours ago

Nelsongoth

Recycles the same tired joke in every thread.

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dem0n - 182 days 4 hours ago

Wow, for someone named Wiimaniac, you sure use "crappy visuals" lightly. Think for a second.

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infekt - 181 days 20 hours ago

Sick videos! The GT5 vs Forza3 video is epic. Polyphony is crazy hot.

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Dacapn - 182 days 4 hours ago

Lol even as it stumbles across the finish line. This game is just funny to me now. I didn't have anything against this game till the devs started shooting their mouths and the fanboys jumped on the bandwagon.

Customization! We've got so many different weather tires to choose from!!! No weather in the game LMAO. This is just hilarious. Maybe now they'll concentrate on making their games instead of commenting on others.

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nycredude - 182 days 2 hours ago

Psturd sounds like the only bitter ones here are the xbox 360 (turn 10 and Forza) fanb0ys. Not trying to bash but anyone still think Forza is the definitive racing sim is really, really delusional and totally buying into the BS hype. I find it funny that ps3 fans get ridiculed for hyping games yet it's perfectly fine for xbox fans to do the same. Double-standard much.

That being said the developers should have never opened their mouths about GT5 and should have just concentrated on their own game. Now they have to put up or look retarted, like they are starting to do now with this news.

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Deadman64 - 181 days 23 hours ago

Yet it makes more and more money than the PS3 everyday, funny how that works huh?

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rodrz34 - 181 days 22 hours ago

sales sales I play my sales on my 360

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Deadman64 - 181 days 21 hours ago

Hmm...well which company do you think will throw more funds into their next gen console, a company that did awful this gen, or a company that made a profit?

So yeah, sales do affect us, and thus what you play is a related to how well sales are for the console/ a previous installment of a game.

Thanks.

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dustgavin - 181 days 17 hours ago

Sony has been in the console business far longer than Microsoft. Sony has always supported every system it has released while Microsoft ditched the first xbox after 3-4 years to rush out the half-baked 360.

Enjoy your outdated console.

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KionicWarlord222 - 182 days 2 hours ago

Exactly.

This games a must buy.

With all the features from forza 2 updated including customization,auction house its bound to be fun.

Im looking forward to the video editor a lot.

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