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How Microsoft Can Make Their Next Xbox Better

With news that Microsoft may be releasing a new Xbox in 2010/2011, Terminal Gamer takes a look at what is wrong with the 360 and what Microsoft can do to make the new Xbox a superior system.
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Published: 161 days 4 hours ago | Article | Xbox 360
 
 

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Syronicus - 161 days 4 hours ago
1 - Here are my two ways to make the 360 better...
Make it reliable and make the online free. Boom! You got a box that rox. I see they have been improving its reliability but they got to hit that Live fee and get on board with the free gaming online.

---> IMHO of course.
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randomwiz - 161 days 4 hours ago
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I'm sure they learned their lesson. They WILL make it more reliable.
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Natsu X FairyTail - 161 days 4 hours ago
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let's hope they do because if they dont the outrage will be BIG!
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Syronicus - 161 days 4 hours ago
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I certainly hope they do. I want to be there at launch to pick up the next Xbox but have to admit that after 5 of these 360's I am a bit sceptical. It's never fun to have a defunct console.
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cereal_killa - 161 days 4 hours ago
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Lets hope they did randomwiz but I think you'll find that M$ might be in that "Why fix something no one is complaining about because they still buy anything we put out" attitude. I really hope they put allot of time in R&D before releasing the next Xbox system and allot less time worrying about when Sony or Nintendo is releasing there's, being the 1st one out to the market doesn't always mean it's the right thing to do.
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dericb11 - 161 days 4 hours ago
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Add Blu-ray and make hard drives a standard. So make a PS3 basically.
Why do so many people say they don't want the system if they want everything that is made of. Get a PS3 and save yourself the complaints.
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Raiinstorm81 - 161 days 3 hours ago
1.6 - Free Online Gaming
Thats number 1, charge for extra features but just let people play games online free. Actually reliability IS number 1.

On another note unless the economy changes, 2010 wont be the year of a new Xbox. I know die hard xbox gamers who are not ready to go plop down another 400 or so bucks on a new console. Im sure the die hard xbox fanboys will disagree but if the PS3 is expensive at 400 then we are not ready for a new console launch. Especially a year after the launch of NATAL. If NATAL is a t best 100 dollars, then a year later new console time at 400 bucks i doubt it.
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NOOBKILLA - 161 days 3 hours ago
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Well since I am a graphics whore, I would love to see the next Xbox have at least 6 gigs of RAM and a powerful video card to enable games to be developed at a native 1920 x 1080p.

The up-scaled stuff now is "just ok" but I think graphically, games would be taking to the next level just with that. Just imagine what Gears of War 3 would look like at native 1920 x 1080p!!!!!
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Raf1k1 - 161 days 3 hours ago
1.8 - NOOBKILLA
Isn't full 1080p a little too wide? Wouldn't that mean you'd have black bars at the top and bottom of the TV?

I'd prefer to have 1080p where the image fills the screen TBH.

edit: seems I was wrong lol. Someone mentioned the difference between 1080p and Full HD before and the image seemed much wider than 1080p. I guess I got confused.

edit2: does anyone know what the actual resolutions are for 1080p and Full 1080p? I'm a little confused about the whole thing :S
edit3: well maybe not 1080p since we all know that one lol

edit4: ThanatosDMC I agree with you but what's that vid got to do with it?
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Serg - 161 days 3 hours ago
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30 million people basicly told them rushing out a console is alright, fix it 10 times and we will still love you MS...

This is the exact reason why I will never buy a 360, it's like bending over your customer values and let MS in for a ride.

As long as people support such a sorry excuse of hardware manufacturing, they see no reason to fix it, why do you think it took them 3 years to take on the RROD (Not including the other flaws the hardware has)? (To my knowledge it still isn't fixed) They don't care, people buy the 360 regardles. Many people even own two 360s just to have a bridge system until the other one is back from repairs.

And now we have people who just can't figure out why people hate MS so much. Google Windows 95, 98, ME and see for yourself where the hate train took off, took a stop at XP, then took off again with Vista and the 360.

That said I wouldn't buy something as simple as a toaster for 20 euros with 33% failure rate, even if it would have a 5 year warranty, let alone a console for 300 euros (Who would want the arcade?).
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ThanatosDMC - 161 days 3 hours ago
1.10 - @ Raf1k1
I agree. I wish my Bluray movies fill the whole screen. I hate the black bars. Zoom and whatever other function clips the movie though, which sucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Blogs4Fanboyzz - 161 days 3 hours ago
1.11 - personally ive not had rrod
but i know people who have...some thorough testing should be done first me thinks.

second, i dont want sh!tty motion controls to take priority ove the more hardcore games! and thats something i dont want sony to do either.

imo, if microsoft come to the market first with a console thats powerful, caters for the hardcore and has motion support like the wii.

then i think it will be a bloodbath! and microsoft will dominate the next-gen with a console like that. but so could sony if they had the same thing....next-gen, i truely believe it will be all about getting to the market first.

oh by the way, i just paid for another year of live today no problem. i have a ps3 which i play on-line. the psn is good for something thats free without a doubt! but it aint as good as live! i aint interested in fanboy flamewar thats took place in the thread thats hovering at the top of the page.

i paid 33 euros for 12months on ebay(roughly $33 or £28), and it is well worth the money. if you disagree, or think that the psn is better or equal, thats upto you. coz imo it aint upto the standard of live, and is probably tens of millions of dollars in investment, and a couple of years behind.

still, the psn does exactly what is says on the tin, and is solid for a free service!!
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darkride66 - 161 days 3 hours ago
1.12 - The 360 would still me my main console if it weren't for RROD.
I really like my 360. I like the interface, I liked the controllers (despite the D-pad issues). I liked achievements and still like them more than trophies. But after 4 consoles I had no choice but to switch. There was no sense in supporting a system that I can't play, no reason to buy a library of games if you don't know if you'll be able to play them a week later.

I sat with my pre-ordered copy of Halo 3 (Halo being one of my favorite console franchises), stuck with it for a month waiting for another console to come back from Microsoft, and to add insult to injury Microsoft made me fight to get my money back when the extended the warranty but didn't think I deserved to get my $340 I spent on repairs back. I wonder how many others they just tried to keep that money, like they did with me. The hours lost on the phone with them, the months without a console, the mounting frustration. That'll change a man's gaming habits, let me tell you.

And it's left me gun shy for the next console. I'm an early adopter, I bought all 3 of the last systems day one when they were released. That's not going to happen with Microsoft ever again.
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edgeofblade - 161 days 3 hours ago
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I'm a forgiving gamer. I'll let Microsoft replace my 360 as many times as they care to. And the second they stop... they lose me.

But if they screw up on another generation, they will have a hard time getting me back.
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Serg - 161 days 3 hours ago
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Uhm, to the guys who don't know what 1080p is...

1080p or FullHD is a pixel resolution, namely 1920x1080. What you are talking about is aspect ratio. The former standard was 4:3 and movies were 16:9, means the movies were wider than the screen that's why it had black stripes on top and bottom. Todays LCD and Plasma TVs have an aspect ratio of 16:9, black stripes vanished. But people started to miss those stripes, they were an indicator for movies or something, think of something stupid here (yes people are stupid). Now the movie industry switched gears to 2.39:1 to bring back the "beloved" black stripes.

It has absolutely nothing to do with 1080p, BluRay, anything. It is just the silly mainstream crowd complaining about stupid things.
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Chrisny85 - 161 days 2 hours ago
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they can ask sony to manufacture it =o lol jkjk

dual graphics so we can maintain 100 fps with aa
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cereal_killa - 161 days 2 hours ago
1.21 - I'm a forgiving gamer. I'll let Microsoft replace my 360 as many times as they care to. And the second they stop... they lose me.
Wow edge I can't believe that someone would continue to support a company just because they fix it for free how is this going to teach M$ anything this just tells them that they're enough stupid people out there that will still buy our crap just because we'll fix it. We the gamers must stop allowing this sort of crap to happen this should have been slammed on to M$ 3yrs ago and they should have been taught a lesson. I laugh my A$$ off at all these fanboys I see on here who will doing anything for M$/Sony no matter what just to claim they have the best system and when I see people close there eye or turn the other way just because the company fixes something that should never been as bad in the 1st place just kills me. I had RROD once and if I get it again I'm done with there consoles fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me!!!
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stewgart - 161 days 2 hours ago
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why are people critisizing darkride for stating fact and his opinion? He even said that the 360 would be his main console. You kids need to grow up and stop pretending you enjoy paying for live and you accept unreliable hardware just because it is from your beloved company. You just can't accept an honset and perfectly valid discussion without accusing someone of being a fanboy.
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Megatron08 - 161 days 1 hour ago
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1st off there has been no news at all about when the next xbox will be out.

At one point MS did say around 2011/2012. With all the revamps coming to XBL and Natal I doubt that is still their target date.

There be no way around a standard HDD for the next systems. I think putting games on flash memory sticks be the way to go next gen. You cant damage them (unless you try) and it allow devs to only pay for as much storage as they need. Plus the price has really come down on these and will more so in the next few years. Plus you wont have the issues with load times you have with blu ray or even dvds. Other that MS just needs to keep doin what they are doing
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IdleLeeSiuLung - 161 days ago
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The way I see, MS pledged to fix any console afflicted with RROD for 3 years. They have done right by my book. That is an attempt to fix a problem and just imagine how much this is costing MS. Nobody in their right mind considers this a proper business model.

How can Xbox be better next? I'm expecting the usual, more horsepower overall and perhaps blu-ray (or equivalent large capacity format). However, I want to see something new and unique. Natal is a first step towards this, but what else revolutionary can they bring to the table?

Otherwise, it is just the same games with better graphics. A sleeker and faster dashboard would be welcome, but the current one is pretty darn good.
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locos85 - 160 days 23 hours ago
1.28 - @ Syronicus
So you went through 5 xbox 360's and you are still willing to give Microsoft money on day 1?


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likedamaster - 160 days 20 hours ago
1.29 - Besides the obvious trolling by Darkride & company here's a more intelligent opinion...
Enjoy.

http://www.extremetech.com/...
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Syronicus - 160 days 9 hours ago
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No, I did not buy 5 360's, that would be stupid. I had an in-store warranty that I used to trade the bad ones in and get a new one every time.
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SaiyanFury - 160 days 9 hours ago
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There are 3 key factors to address. First is the reliability. They can't rush a console with reliability issues out to beat the competition. A 30%+ failure rate is unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination. The other is pay-to-access online. It doesn't work when your direct competition offers the same features for free. Sure, the PS Network doesn't have cross game chat, but save that feature, Sony's PSN is free. No other money is needed to play games online. The third is a mandatory hard drive. Many developers love the PS3 because every system has a mandatory HDD. You can argue Sony for the various models and bundles, but every model has a generic HDD that can be replaced by a larger model for cheap. With the 360, you need to buy their HDD bundles for inflated prices and it's just not good for the consumer. My own fourth point is that the next system needs wireless connectivity needs to be included in the box. Shyte, even the Wii has wireless connectivity, as well as the DS and PSP. It's a cheap function that MS charges 100 dollars for with the current console. Some people might agree, but all said is true. I love my 360 for it's games that cannot be had anywhere else, but those features keep me from updating it.
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Godmars290 - 161 days 4 hours ago
2 - Don't rush it to market to needlessly beat the compitition to release?
Don't use cheap, incompetent contractors? Do more quality control testing? Don't treat hardware like software which can't be as easily "patched" after its out on market?

Hopefully MS knows better now. Hopefully.
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KionicWarlord222 - 161 days 4 hours ago
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Or they could just make it like the first xbox.
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Syronicus - 161 days 4 hours ago
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As long as they don't use the same folks that made that cord that started the original Xbox on fire. Just stay away from that and they would have a hit.

Make it as reliable as the first Xbox but make it scream like the 360 or better. Man that would be a great deal.
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Natsu X FairyTail - 161 days 4 hours ago
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agreed with all of you guys.

taking more time is always better.
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Blowstuffup - 161 days 3 hours ago
2.4 - Right on
The games and online are outstanding. The reliability was the only thing that kept me from getting one when they first came out. The one that I have lit up with those nifty red lights this past week. I redid the thermal paste & heatsinks, and slapped it into a modded case for maximum cooling and we're good to go now, but it's sad that I even had to do this. I'll probably wait at least 2 years after their next version comes out to see what complaints rise to the surface...
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TerminalGamer - 161 days 4 hours ago
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Xbox live should definitely be made free. I may have to add that to the article!
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Raf1k1 - 161 days 3 hours ago
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that and a better D-pad maybe?

I love the 360 controller but a lot of people don't seem too keen on the D-pad. I've also got this problem where when I'm playing a racing game, the car keeps slowly moving to the left (or was it right?). The manager at my local Game store has the same problem with hers. Something to do with the analogue stick I think.
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KionicWarlord222 - 161 days 4 hours ago
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Microsoft should just make it like first xbox . RROD was there only main problem this generation.
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Vx_ - 161 days 4 hours ago
5 - fix da RROD
and have more Xbox-ONLY- exclusive :|
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Doletskaya - 161 days 3 hours ago
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just don't make it break within one year or two.
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Mike134nl - 161 days 3 hours ago
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One thing they also need to address is the noise the xbox 360 makes.
By using a more silent disc player and something like a ionic cooling mechanism.

About blue ray it they will need a better format for their games (especially 3d games) but I doubt they will got for blue ray.
Since it is Microsoft it is more likely they will go for the holographic disc if it is still on track for mass production in 2011/2012.

Also wouldn't be a bad thing if they lowered the energy consumption.
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Serg - 161 days 1 hour ago
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You mean HVD? Holographic Versatile Disc? I don't know why you think MS would discard BluRay, I assume it's because BluRay is associated with Sony a lot.

Well, too bad Sony has it's hands on HVD as well.
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Mike134nl - 161 days 3 hours ago
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only if they buy the ps3 brand ~_^

Gues they will need to use a number higher than 4 for their next box
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ThanatosDMC - 161 days 3 hours ago
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A stripped PS3 inside a different container and call it xbox360next?
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NexGen - 161 days 3 hours ago
10 - Arcade console
If people bought the arcade with no HDD, they shouldn't plan on DLC. If you want DLC, you need a HDD. This isn't a dev problem, its the consumer's problem. Simply eliminate access to a game using DLC content if the online player doesn't have the DLC. Supporting a HDD free gaming experience only holds everyone else back, if devs are truly withholding content because a tiny part of the user base lacks a hard drive. It's kinda like "oh no, 2% of users can't get the DLC...therefore we should deny access to this content to everyone!"

I also don't get who says DLC has to have a price on it? Koei released a ton of new, and free, content for Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2, and DW6 Empires.

Lazy developer excuses should never be taken as 100% true
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Ninji - 161 days 3 hours ago
11 - Such a simple question.
They shouldn't rush the next Xbox this time and they should get more 1st party games that I can't already play on PC.
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