Metro 2033 (Consoles, P.C.) Might Equal Crysis (P.C.) Visually

JsonHenry - 166 days 21 hours ago

Meh. While it may look good, ANYONE that knows a thing or two about what is under the hood of the consoles know it is a physical impossibility for any current console to pull it off as stated.

However, through clever art style and level design you can achieve the same "wow" factor that Crysis had.

I don't really care if it is pushing the same amount of polys and high rez textures as crysis as long as the game is polished and well done.

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gambare - 166 days 21 hours ago

gameplay of the PC version...

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Jhun - 166 days 20 hours ago

Correct my ignorance if I'm wrong but why are we debating the CryEngine2 when the CryEngine3 is not far from release?

Anyways, screw all this crap Pokemon graphics FTW.

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Pandamobile - 166 days 19 hours ago

Because CryEngine 2 on PC looks better than CryEngine 3 on consoles (in case you didn't already know)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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DaTruth - 166 days 17 hours ago

Who cares; We know it won't be rendering 50k's of island all at once and won't have full destructability where you blow up a house from 25k away and later in the game, you pass the house and it's still destroyed!
Maybe more like stupid Farcry, where you kill five guys at a checkpoint, return five minutes later and the same guys are back in the exact same place. In one mission I had to fight the same guys 4 times in ten minutes!

Crysis is far more than graphics, they just should have focused a little more on gameplay from what I've heard!

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Pandamobile - 166 days 12 hours ago

Why don't you play it for yourself before you judge the game play.

Everything about Crysis is just top notch.

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Nice - 166 days 22 hours ago

Read the article before commenting acc to it the polygon count on a character's head in Crysis is 3k and in this game its close to that figure...so it MIGHT be visually stimulating like Crysis, the game is not jungle based to compare gameplay mechanics like Haze was pitted unnecessarily...Haze never looked as good as crysis...As a matter of fact I hate it when ppl compare Far Cry 2 and Crysis as well all jungle games are not the same..

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Syronicus - 166 days 22 hours ago

People hyped Haze to be a the Crysis of consoles before Haze was in the Alpha stages. Obviously, before it hit store shelves they had to dumb it down due to performance issues with the game engine used. So with this game I will say the same thing, don't hype it up before the retail product hits the shelves or you could look equally as stupid as the idiots that hyped Haze up before it was released.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see all of this come to fruition but I refuse to be one of those people that hype a game they know little about just because of a few headshots and poly counts.

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FantasyStar - 166 days 21 hours ago

Hype kills games. This "Metro 2033" is no different. Until it's in my hands and on my PC, it doesn't exist.

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nycredude - 166 days 21 hours ago

I don't remember anyone in the media hyping Haze up to be graphically equal or even comparable to Crysis. If you can please post some links so I can read them. The only people hyping Haze up were the fanb0ys.

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10 Steps Back - 166 days 21 hours ago

Yeah hype really can make or break any game and nycredude I found one... but only one

http://playstation.joystiq....

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DaTruth - 166 days 17 hours ago

I also don't recall anyone comparing Crysis to Haze! I just remember fanboys like Nasim saying "Wait till teh Haze is released, 360 is gonna be teh dust". But back in those days this was a haven for 360 fanboys (which was anyone who couldn't afford a $600 Ps3 and was mad about it); The fanboys were just looking for something to grasp onto to fight the constant barrage of PS3 hate!

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raztad - 166 days 21 hours ago

Raw processing power is NOT the problem in fact The Cell is more powerful than most CPUs out there. The real bottleneck is RAM availability and in some way GPU prowess.

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cgoodno - 166 days 21 hours ago

For a PC, raw processing process is very important because it's running more than just a game. You need the faster processing speed on both the chipset and the RAM, but you also need more processing power to handle more applications in tandem.

The primary element that PCs have over consoles are the GPU, though, which means they can render higher textures and particle effects faster than consoles, and most recent GPUs can also handle AI processing.

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Ju - 166 days 21 hours ago

You hardly have anything running beside a game when you play. This CPU argument is mood. If - it might have timing issues, because the OS does not go to sleep and any background process (or IRQs) can take away the CPU at any time (but that adds to timing and latency and not how fast a game runs). Windows is no realtime OS, either.

The GPU argument might be correct, and the main reason is, that it would not work any other way. GPUs use a well defined abstracted interface (OpenGL or/and DX) and thus make PCs scalable (which is very important in such a dynamic market).

But, a console is different. GPUs are fixed functions, the OS is way closer to the metal then on PCs. The GPU is underpowered compared to top of the line PC GPUs. And that's why on a console you need to go different routes. If the GPU is not fast enough you need to squeeze that out somewhere else. I tend to believe the CELL gives you resources to do that. Moving the pipeline closer to the CPU (that's already done, particles were always close to the SPUs), vertex optimization, even texture pre-processing and all can all take away load from the GPU. Cells SPUs are vector monsters which can very much support the GPU a lot. It has a reason why they built it that way, because they knew the HW when designed had to survive a couple of years, while PC tech will continue to evolve.

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DaTruth - 166 days 17 hours ago

You just explained exactly why PS3 has the edge against the 360; Good job! To bad skulls become 8 times as thick when justifying a purchase and this information will never penetrate. It will just be counteracted by "Teh multiplats".

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evrfighter - 166 days 15 hours ago

Actually Ju just explained why it's just better to own a pc...

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Jonelo - 166 days 21 hours ago

http://i4.photobucket.com/a...

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N4PS3G - 166 days 21 hours ago

see i was right ..it was a 360 logo after all ..thanks for the bigger picture

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 166 days 21 hours ago

Metro 2033 The Last Refuge that's exclusive to PS3 but i don't care the game isn't on my radar

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JayX666 - 166 days 20 hours ago

Stop using google translator please, your attempt of creating an argument in fragmented english is jarring.

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Pandamobile - 166 days 19 hours ago

Well, let's see.

* Real Time Lighting and Dynamic Soft Shadows:
CryENGINE® 2 features natural looking light sources, and creates soft shadows that dynamically respond to natural movements. It includes high-resolution, perspective correct and volumetric smooth-shadow implementations.

* Volumetric, Layer and View Distance Fogging:
Create clouds or fog banks which can hug the ground and realistically reduce both visibility and contrast, and properly interact with both dynamic lights and shadows, add depth and dimension to a landscape by reducing scene contrast and clarity for distant landmarks

* Terrain 2.5D Ambient Occlusion Maps:
On a per pixel level, approximates the amount of ambient (fill) light reaching an object (static or dynamic) depending on the amount of ambient occlusion created by the surrounding foliage and structures.

* Normal Maps and Parallax Occlusion Maps:
Normal maps are used to project the contour details of a highly detailed object onto a low polygon model by using a high frequency compressed (3DC/BC5) texture in place of the polygon's surface normal in lighting calculations. CryEngine2 also supports parallax occlusion mapping to give a greater sense of depth to a surface texture applied to a polygon, such as could be used to realistically emphasize the relief surface structure of a brick wall, for example.

* Screen Space Ambient Occlusion:
Provides a real time simulation of ambient light occlusion, so that the amount of ambient (fill) light which is applied when two surfaces that meet at an angle is reduced in order to simulate the natural darkening of edges and corners that happens in this case in the natural world, both indoors and out. By limiting the calculations to only the space within the current view frustum, a significant performance benefit is realized while still allowing for a very high quality result.

* Subsurface Scattering:
Simulates the diffusion and diffraction of light transmitted through translucent objects, like ice and jade; it can also be used to create natural looking skin or vegetation.

* Eye Adaptation & High Dynamic Range (HDR) Lighting:
Eye Adaptation is used to simulate the human eye's adaptation to sudden or extreme changes in lighting conditions, like dark indoor environments suddenly transitioning to bright sunny outdoor environments, while HDR allows scenes with extreme brightness and contrast ranges to be more realistically rendered.

* Motion Blur & Depth of Field:
Motion Blur is used to simulate the visual effect of using a slow shutter speed when tracking fast moving objects or making quick camera movements. Blur can be applied both to individual objects (object based motion blur), and/or to an entire scene (screen based motion blur), while Depth of Field can be used to focus the viewer's eye on a nearby object while subtly blurring objects in front or behind the point of focus.

* Light Beams & Shafts:
These are used to create visually stunning light beams and shadows when light intersects with solid or highly detailed geometry, and can generate 'godray' effects under water.

* High Quality 3D Ocean Technology:
Dynamically modifies the ocean surface based on wind and wave direction, generating shoreline soft-clipping breakers automatically where the ocean meets the shore, depending on the shoreline contour and ocean depth, while our caustic simulation creates realistic looking moving shadows and highlights in underwater environments.

* Advanced Shader Technology:
A script system used to combine textures and math in different ways to create unique effects such as cloaked, wet, muddy, and/or frozen surfaces which can be layered together and combined with more basic shaders such as metallic and glassy and other visual effects. Supports real time per-pixel lighting, bumpy reflections, refractions, volumetric glow effects, animated textures, transparent computer displays, windows, bullet holes, and shinny surfaces. Included are many unique new shaders which take advantage of the efficiencies of the unified shader architecture of DirectX 10.

* Terrain LOD Management Feature:
This feature allows optimal usage of CPU and memory to display closer objects and terrain at a fine level of detail while enabling long view distances of over 8 kilometers.

Not to mention the ridiculous size of the game's textures (1024 x 1024 grass and dirt textures)

So yeah.

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Pandamobile - 166 days 18 hours ago

And?

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cyclindk - 166 days 12 hours ago

And... so did you read some of the statements in the article? The "and" shouldn't be necessary unless you're looking for some way to tout Crysis some more, a game, that when released, required much more expensive hardware to play at it's maximum than one would have to pay for any console...

I'd like to see a PC with comparable memory and processing power produce graphics like Killzone 2... I haven't seen one. If you had a PC with such "limitations" you would have to play most games on the lowest settings.

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Pandamobile - 166 days 12 hours ago

The game requires so much power because it's rendering a gigantic island, a ridiculous amount of textures, fullscreen and per-object motion blur, and a metric sh1t-ton of high quality shaders.

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OtherWhiteMeat - 166 days 15 hours ago

Wasn't Bioshock a Xbox exclusive???? Since this game is going multi platform doesn't mean it's going to be any good.Making games for all 3 consoles is the best way for success. Just be happy your getting it.

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clixx33 - 166 days 21 hours ago

Yeah seems like it. I don't think they could get that power on the 360. :P And it's weird that for once it's Ps3 and PC exclusive instead of Xbox and PC exclusive. This has peaked my interest. 0.0

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N4PS3G - 166 days 21 hours ago

@Clixx33

well if you go tho the site and check on the news..there's an ad and i think i can see the xbox 360 logo at the bottom left

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uplo...

but you know ..thats just me

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GiantEnemyCrab - 166 days 17 hours ago

It's 360/PC/PS3. This is well known and Official Xbox Magazine even have a nice article and story about the game. No release date or even window that I know of.

From what I've seen so far nothing is screaming Crysis level graphics.

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Barragan - 166 days 20 hours ago

still trying to figure out what people keep saying its hard for ps3 for when ps3 has games that have erased it already

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MGOelite - 166 days 20 hours ago

hes right though? some of the water in uncharted 1 and some texture in killzone 2 do rival crysis?

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Pandamobile - 166 days 19 hours ago

Hahaha...

Killzone 2 has crappy textures. The PS3 can only render a couple hundred MB of textures, shaders and geometry at once due to its severe lack of VRAM (256 MB compared to the standard of PC graphics cards that range from 512 MB to 2 GB.

I'd say the ugliest part of KZ2 is its textures.

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Gamer_Politics - 166 days 19 hours ago

are you stupid?i havent any console game that can match Crysis on high settings...

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Pandamobile - 166 days 19 hours ago

Yeah, let alone DirectX 10 very high settings...

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