Bungie - A One-Trick Pony?

Chuk_Chuk - 166 days 17 hours ago

because they know halo will sell. maybe thats why they don't move from their comfort zone.

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jessehaysfl - 166 days 17 hours ago

I hate halo, the control, the art style, the animation.
I hate halo.

However even if bungie is a "one trick pony" Bungie has still out sold almost every other developer with the exception of maybe nintendo.

So if Bungie is a one trick pony, then they pulled off the best trick in history and if we were scoring said trick based on sales then bungie gets about 25 million points.

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AKNAA - 166 days 17 hours ago

So their kinda like a hot wife that over time got way To comfortable with herself to the point where she is now just lazy and not as attractive as she use to be?!?!...

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The Master Chief - 166 days 16 hours ago

Why would Bungie want to stop making the most popular FPS in the world to something that won't be even half as popular?

Bungie became independent and have said they will be taking new chances with the Halo franchise. I don't think they are stupid enough to just give the Halo franchise away. Someone else can make the RTS/Rpg's/whatever else will come....Bungie should make the FPS.

Insomniac has made tons of Ratchet games and aren't even 1/8th as popular as Halo and they keep churning them out. Most franchises can't get Ratchets recognition, much less Halo.

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Chuk_Chuk - 166 days 16 hours ago

maybe because FPSs are more popular than action and adventure games

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snipermk0 - 166 days 16 hours ago

ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system.

EDIT: Why the disagrees? Damn fanboys and their short sight! Atleast grow a pair and try to prove me wrong instead of phantom disagrees.

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Tony P - 166 days 16 hours ago

"Maxed out potential"? How insulting to the developers.

Halo is one of the most popular and highest selling games in history. Very few games join that exclusive club. Bungie could try a few new IPs, but most devs would probably kill for a golden egg like Halo.

Brings to mind Blizzard. They haven't churned out anything but Warcraft related material since 2002. Four of those years were dedicated solely to WoW. They've only just recently announced new sequels. Were they just out of ideas for those years? Of course not.

There's nothing wrong with banking on your successes. It's a sound plan and probably here to stay while in the thick of recession. That doesn't mean that Bungie are stagnant. And even though they're producing more under the banner of Halo, these newer titles are still evolving.

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Headshot81 - 166 days 15 hours ago

I don't think they're going to pull it off this time, COD:MW2 is the new Halo, that franchise is growing fast, and across all platforms. Im not a big COD fan,i don't hate it, but i can't deny their talent. Almost every gamer i know has already made up their mind on buying the game. HALO WHO????????

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The Master Chief - 166 days 15 hours ago

"ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system."

ermmmm, actually the Halo series has sold more than the Half Life series. Go find proof, you wont be able to because Halo has sold more than Half life as a franchise.

Also, I own Xbox 360, PC, DS and Wii. It's not really your buisness what I play. And no I don't play Playstation.

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Raf1k1 - 166 days 15 hours ago

didn't Bungie make the Oni game?

Would be nice if they'd make a sequal. I loved that game

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LostProphet - 166 days 14 hours ago

Before this little fanboy fight goes on any longer...

Halo Series = 24.8 million copies worldwide
Half-Life Series = 29.8 million copies sold worldwide EXCLUDING Steam sales

Half life 2 sold over 6.5 million copies on steam which pushes the total sales over 35 mil, take into account how much the episodes and half life 1 sold online your probably pushing 50 million

End.Of.Argument

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SuperM - 166 days 14 hours ago

You are all wrong. The most popular first person shooter is by far Call of Duty.

I find it amusing how many people always mention bungie as one of the top 5 devlopers in the world. Among all the talented devs out there, Bungie has not proven their worth on such a list. They have been riding a wave of hype and advertisement from MS and with the help of a rabbid fanbase that would buy their game even if it was called halo: turd, they have become successful. But aside from Halo1 they have yet to make a classic title. Since then its gone downwards and by the looks of it Halo ODST will be the bottom of the pit so far. 60$ for a 5 hour expansion? no thanks. Still a smart move though, because the fanbase will buy it and they will cash in millions.

But seriously, Bungie does not belong on a list of legendary developers like Valve, Blizzard, Naughty Dog, Infinity Ward, Rockstar North, etc.

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LostProphet - 166 days 14 hours ago

Call of duty series = 35 million (11 of which is cod5)

Can't you people use google?

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Mike134nl - 166 days 13 hours ago

If they can only do one trick, It is still a damn good trick.
But guess it would be nice to see if they can do other tricks, since their their first trick sold millions their other tricks might pale before halo.

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menoyou - 166 days 11 hours ago

Bungie is a mediocre developer of generic games. Nothing they do is polished and none of their products stand out. The only reason people think they're good is because Microsoft spends more money marketing Halo than they will ever receive in profit from its sales.

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scissor_runner - 166 days 10 hours ago

jessehaysfl I agree yet I loved halo's concept and art in the beginning. What we currently call halo is far from what it should have been yet other games have come out to fill that gap so I'm not mad. Halo is horrible half baked potential though. Some times I even wonder if epic could do a better job GASP!

Hey but the funny thing is most developers are one trick ponies simply because games take way too much effort to make now because of HD. These are not comics these are games trying to past the selves off and TV shows or movies.

If Kojima doesn't make zone of enders then he too will be a one trick pony. Hell he even has snatchers to fall back on WTF man! Oh well I guess blogs trying to be web sites must complain about some thing.

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Shepherd 214 - 166 days 6 hours ago

Funny how Kojima never makes anything different than MGS either, but no one notices that because Halo destroys sales charts and MGS doesnt.

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mfwahwah - 166 days 5 hours ago

@1.18

Kojima puts more effort into MGS. And MGS isn't popular because it's popular. It's popular because it's quality. And yes that's just my opinion of Halo there. Deal with it.

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iHEARTboobs - 166 days 4 hours ago

It can seem that way but it's hard to do something else when there's more money staring you in the face. I thought we were going to start seeing something new from Bungie (since I thought ODST was their last Halo) but I guess we wont for a while. Either way, they have skill, but I think we could do with a different game in between all the Halo's.

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TheReaper42 - 165 days 18 hours ago

Geoff of GT said that HALO is a one trick pony, right after that he said "ouch."

http://www.gametrailers.com...

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barom - 165 days 17 hours ago

MGS4 was and is a total make over. He stepped out of his comfort zone and made arguably the best stealth game out there. In addition to that he made Zone Of Enders (after MGS2 I believe) which got high remarks and before that he made Policenauts and Snatcher, which also has been praised.

If Bungie would do even a tenth of what Kojima does, I would have at least some respect for them. But instead they go intendepent to do what? Not just one but two more Halo games? How much sense does that make? Either Microsoft won't approve their projects or they just don't have that capability or possibly just scared that they might in fact be a one-trick pony.

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swingingape - 165 days 6 hours ago

Halo is so overrated. COD is much better series and more innovative too

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Shepherd 214 - 164 days 4 hours ago

Bungie also made Myth, Oni, Marathon, and Pathways into Darkness, all of which received critical praise as well. What of it? Kojima didnt step out of his comfort zone because MGS 4 only expands on the core principles that made the first 3 MGS's, just like Bungie does with Halo. And also, MGS 3 was better than your "perfect" MGS 4. Thats what i think of it. Deal with it. MGS 3 had more gameplay and a better balance of cutscenes, where as MGS 4 is mainly cutscenes.

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GrieverSoul - 166 days 16 hours ago

You clearly dont have a PS3! Otherwise that list would be twice as big!

Also, where´s Modern Warfare 2?! ;)

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Cajun Chicken - 166 days 17 hours ago

Be fair, Kojima did take a break with both Zone of the Enders games. Bungie haven't produced anything but a Halo game since about 2002 onwards.

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peeps - 166 days 17 hours ago

yep. although when you think about Kojima Productions you think of MGS, you also gotta remember he's done ZoE and has done MGS games on many formats + he's gonna be helping out with the new castlevania.

I really do hope Bungie try something new. fans praise them for making fps mainstream on consoles, but that happened years ago now, i want something new. perhaps they will really blow us away with Halo: Reach, and i am excited for it. But i can't help thinkin that i wish they would try something new. They seem to comfortable sticking with halo simply cus they know it will sell

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The Master Chief - 166 days 17 hours ago

Kojima are one of the few, and literally VERY few developers on the level of Bungie. Metal Gear is their one trick pony also... look at Metal Gear Rising....they are still changing it up within the franchise and I think Bungie will with Halo: Reach also.

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KKanjiAnkh - 166 days 16 hours ago

Kojima Productions

Metal Gear
Snatcher
Boktai
Zone of the Enders

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The Master Chief - 166 days 15 hours ago

lol Nasim your so jealous of anything Halo/Xbox/Microsoft.

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JohnnyBadfinger - 166 days 15 hours ago

Oni
Myth
Marathon
Halo

Who says their a one trick pony???
i just gave you 4, just like KKanjiAnkh did for those Asain game developers Kojima or whatever they called.

PS.
feel free to disagree (im talking to you PS3 fanboys) but Metal Gear Solid is top shelf crap, but strangely still the second best thing on PS3 behind Grand Turismo.
I don't understand why Microsoft would want a hopelessly bad and dull game like MGS, I would rather play Killzone 2 (mean that as an insult).

And watch the BUBBLES disappear, and the Disagrees Rise.
But remember every disagree represents the number of PS3 trolls on N4G

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Cenobia - 166 days 13 hours ago

lol.

You're kind of an idiot aren't you?

There is no way you could be that big a hypocrite and not know it. At least I hope there isn't.

Also, you come off as slightly racist, looking down on "Asains" and all.

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PLAYSTATIONGENRATION - 166 days 12 hours ago

Zone of Enders is the shiznit.......

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pippoppow - 166 days 16 hours ago

Would love to play a new Myth game but they sold the rights to another company who made Myth 3 chich sucked. Maybe they can come out with a spiritual successor at the least or maybe get those rights back. Would be nice to see updated explosion effects (OOPS) some terrain deformation and more RPG elements. They would also need to get the same narrator if possible with a similar story telling style. Myth 1+2 are great classic PC games. Would love to see Myth along with X-com franchises revived. To dream......

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mastiffchild - 166 days 11 hours ago

While Halo continues to dwarf the company that makes it Bungie are kind of tied to it whether they like it or not.

Still, it's way too presumptuous, and bordering on insulting to call them a one trick pony-they made other games before , which, in some cases imo, are better than some of the Halo games even if sales don't show that. They're a very talented dev team but don't have the chance to really stretch that muscle right now but making huge selling Halo franchise games still puts cash in the bank so, and I expect this is theur plan, they can expand and do ALL the projects they wish to in future. Only if those games fall on their faces both critically and at retail will people be able to call them one trick ponies.

While I felt ODST could(from what we know anyway)be far more of a change from regular Halo I do understand why they might bot wish to co yoo far when what they have works and sells like hot cakes. Who knows though-maybe Reach will be a big departure for the Halo universe/gameplay, perhaps there are surprises to come with ODST yet to be shown.

Whatever, ODST and Reach will both retail well and to jibe at a company just for looking after the game series that could decide how CREATIVE they CAN be in the future is unfair.

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AKNAA - 166 days 16 hours ago

Look at Capcom. They could have just stuck with street fighter, but with all their creativity, they went off to making mega man, power stone, resident evil, devil may cry, omnimusa, lost planet, dark void , dead rising and a few more I can't remember now...
So I'd say bungie has a lack of creativity if anything. All I see is a FPS part#1,2,3,3 1/2,4...

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swingingape - 165 days 4 hours ago

Lot of devs have a few franchises coexisting... Bungie is just being overly cautious and they desperately need something new to prove their relevance

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peeps - 166 days 16 hours ago

perhaps halo fans would disagree (i personally loved 2 and am a bit meh about 3/ODST) but i'd like to see a darker more 'mature' halo game

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SaberEdge - 166 days 16 hours ago

Making one of the best FPS games on consoles.

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PirateThom - 166 days 16 hours ago

Bungie made Goldeneye?

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snipermk0 - 166 days 16 hours ago

LOL... bubbles to you buddy!

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The Master Chief - 166 days 15 hours ago

ha! Guerrilla games had 4 years to make Killzone 2 and couldn't score as well as Halo 3 in reviews.

Wait for Halo: Reach. :)

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snipermk0 - 166 days 5 hours ago

it would prolly be a good time for you to STFU since you got pwned in the gamer zone when you were proved Half life sold more than gaylo.. ROFL

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Thet3 - 166 days 10 hours ago

Cryteck said they are workin on a secret Rpg title!!!

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snipermk0 - 166 days 1 hour ago

Crytek developed Far Cry, Crysis and the upcoming Obsedian's Edge. How are they a one trick pony? Bungie seems to be the only candidate.

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Deadman64 - 166 days 2 hours ago

lol i know right.

And who said Halo: Reach is going to be a FPS? I mean it likely will be, but it could be anything at this point.

And I love that all the sony fanboys have been likely obsessing over Halo: Reach in the past week more than any of their own games...

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AngryTypingGuy - 166 days 2 hours ago

I read that it will be a FPS. I sure as hell hope it is. I love both first and third person shooters.

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