Why Infinite Undiscovery Remains Undiscovered

SnukaTheMan - 223 days 7 hours ago

very deep with the weapon creation and food. I loved the game myself.

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Eddie20101 - 223 days 5 hours ago

Good RPG On the Wrong console, different kind of gamers on the Xbox 360. Most on the Xbox 360 prefer Western type RPG'S over Japanese ones, especially Xbox 360 gamers anywhere outside of Japan.

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Kushan - 223 days 4 hours ago

I hated it. I really hated it. I got all the way on to disk 2 and just hated how "cheap" it felt.
The first warning flag was the pointless "lets turn out ALL the lights and force you to fight your way through completely dark areas". That was just poor game design and the lights that followed you were nearly useless.
Then the endless backtracking. I swear, that desert bit was just tedius. Hey, lets run all the way from one side of this big, baron desert to the other. Oh what's this? People? Well lets escort them back!
Nearly there now and oh wait, someone's got lost. Time to backtrack AGAIN to find them....
Yey we found them, now we can get the people to where they need to be. Now that this is done, we can finally get on with our quest....on the other side of the big baron desert...

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SpoonyRedMage - 223 days 3 hours ago

Oh I agree with that there Kushan. I ended up going through the dark bits without using the lights and the desert was annoying, mainly because it's suddenyl overpopulated with monsters and you have those twins with you(who are useless).

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DrRobotnik - 222 days 21 hours ago

I think this rpg was just rushed out the door. It was put together all wrong. And I still think it was released on the wrong system.

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Redempteur - 223 days 1 hour ago

tri-ace know how to make action rpgs
IU is far from being perfect ... but doesnot deserve a 68% metacritic score

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UltimateIdiot911 - 223 days 5 hours ago

I agree, I don't feel like importing Demon Soul but I can't get my gf who's studying abroad to get me a copy. =[

I have to say JRPG do a lot better on PS3 as that's where more of the JRPG fans are.

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zlatko - 223 days 3 hours ago

I have Demon's Souls and it's my first venture into bothering to import a game. The result? Best JRPG on PS3 for sure. It's unique, challenging, and filled with tons of quality in every nook and cranny.

Its story is told in a bit sprace way and the game like everyone has said is very difficult if you aren't used to having to evade and block often to life. That's about all you could say is "bad", about this game which is well nothing to me.

Lost Odyssey was also a great JRPG this console generation. As was Valkyria Chronicles. The rest have had hit and miss features, but nothing I'd recommend for anyone to run out and play.

All 3 of these you could try and play now if you have the hardware, but the big issue is none of these 3 enter my top 10 of best RPGs let alone best games of all time. They are 100% worth your time and cash this console generation, but don't expect them to make you feel like you did after the completion of your favorite Final Fantasy, Chrono, Lunar, Grandia, Legend of Dragoon, etc etc etc. The games for JRPGs this generation so far aren't of that caliber, but at least these 3 games are hella close and hopefully real soon we'll see a same level of quality and the eventual surpassing of last gen.

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ButterToast - 222 days 20 hours ago

I just got my copy of Demons souls on Thursday. F'ing amazing! Feels a lot like Diablo, but dare I say better. Was my first import too. the only other game I might import is Siren since I really want a hard copy.

Demons Souls + Valkyria Chronicles = RPG fix satisfied

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Kamikaze135 - 223 days 10 hours ago

Small brain? Your grammar is horrible and I have a small brain? Lmao, Sure why not. Anyway, I couldn't care less if you enjoyed the game or not, I'm just posting what the most likely cause is. Also, reviews don't mean anything. A lot of games generate mediocre to low reviews, yet they sell well.

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rhood022 - 223 days 10 hours ago

@ps3d0

Apparently you can't read either. Kamikaze didn't say that the 360 was primarily a shooter console--but that the original xbox was.

The flow of logic is that the people who had an Xbox and migrated over to the 360 were interested in what the original did best--shooters. THAT is why JRPGs don't sell and the Halos' and Gears of Wars and CODs dominate the console's play time.

Sure, the 360 has done a better job of diversifying itself in terms of games, but the fact remains (despite the disagrees) that a certain type of games sell better on the console than others.
Likewise, it is a fact that the RPGs, despite the abundance of titles, have sold better on the PS3 simply because the Playstation brand is so closely associated with that particular genre.

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Sarcasm - 223 days 8 hours ago

PS3D0 is most likely just a 15 year old, so don't bother with him.

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siyrobbo - 223 days 7 hours ago

I think this gen MS has been trying to diversify and get away from the FPS only image. Trouble is they still haven't found there place, kind of a jack of all trades master of none sort of situation.

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The Great Melon - 223 days 6 hours ago

Even though I am a frequent of N4G and own every console, the xbox 360 still in my mind remains the "shooter system." It's a stigma that I don't think it will ever shake off regardless of what games it has to offer. Whether or not that is a good or bad thing, I don't know. All I can say is that they do good job of promoting the hardcore games and they have given themselves a strong image in that respect.

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Aloren - 223 days 5 hours ago

Quite a cliché.... JRPGs generally don't sell that bad on 360, even infinitre Undiscovery sold almost half a million copies... that's actually more than Valkyria Chronicles. They didn't all sell well (Eternal Sonata, Vesperia...), but Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and last Remnant also sold reasonably well, so it's not like the 360 audience can't appreciate JRPGs.

IMO the main problem with JRPGs this gen is not that they are on 360, since they don't really sell better on PS3 (except in japan, obviously...); it's that WRPGs are on average better, and therefore sell better. Oblivion, Fallout 3, mass effect, and fable 2 all reached the 2 million mark on 360, not so bad .

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kevnb - 222 days 16 hours ago

don't pretend like it would have, outside of japan jrpgs not named final fantasy struggle... and even in japan it wouldn't have set the world on fire.

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Canary - 223 days 10 hours ago

They're both fairly bad, but IUD is worse than Last Remnant by a fair margin.

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caladbolg777 - 223 days 10 hours ago

I find it very hard to believe that IUD could be worse than TLR. The Last Remnant is abysmal. It's easily on the Top5 list of worst RPGs of this generation.

This review does pique my interest in picking up Infinite Undiscovery and giving it a go. However, I'm a little worried that the author may be overly praising the game in an attempt to justify his purchases. Case in point, "I wanted to give Infinite Undiscovery a shot. It was one of the reasons I wanted a 360, actually." Ya know, like maybe he heard about an upcoming JRPG called Infinite Undiscovery, purchased a 360 to play it, and is just now declaring that the game is just a pinch more awesome than it actually is in order to justify the purchase to himself.

I may be wrong. The review just gave me that vibe.

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Soda Popinsky - 223 days 10 hours ago

PS3
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice - 0.21 million
Valkyria Chronicles - 0.40 million

360
The Last Remnant - 0.55 million
Infinite Undiscovery - 0.45 million

You were saying? Even the crappiest of 360 JRPGs outsell the cream of the crop on the PS3. Also take into account that the 360 only has 1/3 of the PS3's installbase in Japan. And the fact that they had to re-release Valkyria Chronicles because it had such extremely poor sales.

"Less than a year after Valkyria Chronicles was released in Japan it's joining Sony's PlayStation 3 The Best collection. The yellow striped re-release goes for 3,990 yen ($43) which means its half off. Valkyria Chronicles originally went on sale for 7,980 yen ($88) when it came out last April."

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

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Soda Popinsky - 223 days 8 hours ago

Nope. I'm just replying to Becko who tries to make it sound like PS3 JRPGs are doing better than 360 JRPGs. When in fact none of the JRPGs this gen have been that succesful. WRPGs like Oblivion, Mass Effect, Fallout 3 and Fable have had much more commercial success.

How come you attack me instead of Becko, when he was the one who brought up sales to begin with?

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siyrobbo - 223 days 7 hours ago

soda, you should know by now that only PS3 owners are allowed to mention sales, you should have known better

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Power_of_Black - 223 days 7 hours ago

@siyrobbo , I actuall own both console but more of a pc gamer myself.

@ Soda Popinsky . HO my i am actually agreeing with you??

Listen its not so much this comment or the actuall reply you did or to whom this time.
ITS overall my friend. Everytime i read your comment its about defending the 360 and bashing the ps3 with number and link . I mean come on man ..

I think that right now if you only own the 360 i can definitely see why you have so much free time on your hand, to waste all your energy and time on trolling around here you probably got nothing better to do.

Me well .. i a working a night shift tonight and its quiet so yeah i am bored and trolling LOL ..

Sorry bout the "Go to hell" thing Soda .. just getting tired of reading about sales and not about gaming around here.

Ps : i would like to chat more but i got some xboxfangirl panties in a bunch with my name(created it to make fun of POG ) and i don't feel like creating Mutliple fake accounts just to get back some bubbles back like some of you.. ( you know who you are )

( hit me for bubble people :P )

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Chris399 - 223 days 6 hours ago

What about White knight Chronicles?

It curb stomped every JRPG released so far and has only been sold in ONE TERRITORY. It's also published by Sony and developed by Level 5, who basically loathe MS so you won't be seeing it on a 360 anytime soon.

And you seem to have conveniently forgotten about Demon's Souls. An interesting little underdog that - despite massive underestimation/ under shipment of demand- over charted Star Ocean 4 in Japan (check the Media Create software sales, after 3 weeks SO4 was almost dead off the list and Demon's Souls, released weeks previous to SO4 was STILL ranking higher). Copies of the game are on backorder at every major retailer STILL.

And considering the 360s lead over the PS3 in terms of user-base and the advertising that went into these 360 "exclusive" games (many of which are migrating over to the PS3, not the other way around), selling 400-500K worth of something really isn't that impressive. That's why the slew of JRPG announcements for the PS3 lately. And the ports.

And since you're pulling figures from VGchartz. Let's look at the most telling tale to date:

http://vgchartz.com/games/g...

Star Ocean 4. A major, exclusive (well it's about as "exclusive" as Vesperia, and we all know what happened there) JRPG. It's not even at 400K yet. Sold next to nothing in America and I highly doubt that Europe's release will push it past 500K.

P.S. And more relative to the article. IUD was a mess, with some of the worst (most annoying) voice acting to date. I played through a good 8 hours of that game before canning it. And this reasoning that gamers just need to "play it till it improves" is ridiculous. A good game, one that is captivating and well designed get's you from the start. Everything about IUD and Last Remnant for that matter was mediocre, and the technical issues in both titles didn't help. You want a solid, old-school JRPG play Lost Odyssey. Clocked almost 100 hours into that title, most fun I've had on my 360.

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Halo3 MLG Pro - 223 days 6 hours ago

You are talking to the wrong guy. It was your fellow sony fan that brought up the sales argument.

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Baka-akaB - 223 days 3 hours ago

First of all ... no one should expect a tactical rpg to perform as well or better in sales than big jrpgs unless from the following series : Final fantasy tactics , super robot taisen .

What it accomplished is a little miracle , thought with the help of the re-release and the anime serie .
I always disagreed with people saying it sold poorly before those . it did well given the genre . And never did Sega complains about it neither .
It's just the overall sentiment that it should have performed better given it's quality and raving critics , wich is true .

Sega released the game again because of the anime , wich is a smart move .

Anyway popinsky in his massive attempt to spin the fiasco , of course forgot games like White knight chronicles or demon souls (btw innacurate figures from vgchartz and wich dont even includes the asian version) , who already or are already outperforming 360 jrpgs ..

He also forgot that even the pretty good Vesperia as been outsold by a portable tales spin off ... something i believe unseen before . The game is also so far , though it could change , selling lower than the least favorite main title of the franchise : Tales of legendia .

I also again find ludicrous to pit big jrpg against tactical rpgs (again valkyria , and disgaea 3) , a definitive , on each generation , sub genre of the genre in sales .

At last people developped enough on So4 from once a million selling franchise ... struggling to get beyond 400k...

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kevnb - 222 days 16 hours ago

only one star ocean sold past 1 million, and it was on a console with a user base of 120 million. Not to mention that star ocean 3 was simply the best in the series by far. Next you will tell me that the tales games will do better on ps3... even though the only tales game that sold over a million was oddly enough on gamecube. Don't believe me? Just look how awesome eternal sonata sold on ps3 lol, (bad game by the way). Anyway, Im actually a ps3 supporter but thought I would point out the obvious that nobody seems to want to see. Its almost like they myth that games are shorter now...

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Argento-Nox - 222 days 15 hours ago

Technically, the PS2 is still the RPG king, even this gen so far. Everyone assumes that JRPG's do poorly in N.A, yet about every Shin Megami Tensei game for the PS2, has done well for sales. Persona 3/FES/4 have each done approximately 200K in North America with a global average total of 500K each. This is better than most JRPG's on the 360 and PS3.

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usin420 - 222 days 18 hours ago

Same here, but square enix has been quiet lately about the PS3 version. I'd like to know if it's ever gonna come out, but they seem to dodge the question every time they are asked about when the PS3 version is going to come out.

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SpoonyRedMage - 222 days 18 hours ago

I think you mean The Last Remnant because Infinite Undiscovery hasn't had a chance of being on the PS3 for a loooong time and it has nothing to do with SE. It's more to do with the fact that MS owns the IP and funded the game and was going to publish it(until SE offered to).

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usin420 - 222 days 18 hours ago

Yea, your right. I was just reading through the comments and got confused. It would have also helped if I actually read the article. Oh well, ignorance is bliss.

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kaveti6616 - 223 days 9 hours ago

Don't deny it. I've read many a comment posted by your sorry ass. IUD may be a bad game. May be crap, who knows? But my take on this is A.) You never played it and bash it because its 360 exclusive, B.) You have played it and it's not as crap as you say, but you wouldn't admit it even if we put your pelvic thrust action out of commission, or C.) You did play it and didn't like it and were pleased that it was a failure so you can bash the 360 and Square Enix some more.

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PELVIC THRUST ACTION - 223 days 8 hours ago

I love how you swear and attack me, instead of looking at the actual game itself. Do you not realize how much of a crap fest IU is? Or that I actually owned a 360 before I got a PS3? Or that Tri Ace has been on the downturn since Star Ocean 3 on the PS2? Apparently not as you love to cling to Square/Tri Aces former greatness which has dimmed quite a bit this generation where they are only truly revered by their die hard fans. And the fact that I actually praise tales of vesperia and lost odyssey mean nothing as they're actually games worth playing? You need to wake up and stop worshipping a company that hasn't produced anything worthwhile on home consoles in quite a while.

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kaveti6616 - 222 days 22 hours ago

It's one thing to casually say that you played IUD and it sucked ass. It's hard to respect your opinion in any matter when you basically bash the 360 and any RPG that comes out on it all the time, fanboy. I think I remember you calling Mass Effect garbage as well for all its tech issues. And yet, thank god I didn't trust your opinion because I bought it and played it and I didn't suffer enough issues to render it unplayable. So if you're gonna say a game sucks then say a game sucks for you. But the guy who wrote this article made some good points about IUD and you just made a baseless criticism about the game without any evidence. No one is going to get anything constructive from your posts. You might as well write, "This game sucks donkey balls" and be on your way.

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Labwarriorbot - 223 days 1 hour ago

Its a shiatty game meant for the Japanese adience, and its on an even shiattier console that has no future in Japan.

Its so simple. Why even ask the question, xbots.

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