360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake

GWAVE - 310 days 9 hours ago

My question is this: where's the proof? "Teh cell" has been proving itself since the days of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, and so forth. Alan Wake is little more than a tech demo right now, and it's optimized to run on PC, anyway. What a silly headline and even sillier article.

Slam "disagree" all you kids want, but instead of spending the time hitting disagree, why don't you spend the time linking some footage of the game running on the 360, or footage that's newer than 2006 for that matter?

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AclayPS3 - 310 days 9 hours ago

LOL, from the little that has been shown of Alan Wake everything has been from the PC version. No one even knows how good the 360 version will even look.

Heavy Rain's screenshots look just as good as the Alan Wake PC screenshots. It's more like "PS3's Cell Processor Power Challenges PC version of Alan Wake."

Until Remedy actually attends a Game Convention and shows off the 360 version of Alan Wake or until they reveal more info for the 360 version, not much can be said about the 360 "challenging the PS3's power" unless there's more proof.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 310 days 8 hours ago

I don't know much about Alan Wake, but Gears of War 2 looked amazing to me. So did KZ2. At the end of the day, reality is that the differences is really minimal... and that game play prevails.

Just take a look at online stats, Halo 3 is still among the top 5 games played on Live over a year later. So is CoD 4!

Ask those people if they cared that Gears 2 is among the best looking game on 360... nope, they are playing Halo 3/CoD4.

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drewdrakes - 310 days 7 hours ago

After 30 minutes graphics dont matter to me. It could be cell shaded for all I care. Crackdown looked nice because of its partial cell shading.

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Powertesties - 310 days 7 hours ago

Did you know that the Cell CPU and the 360 CPU are equals power wise?

Oh yes, it is true according to the director of both CPU's at IBM.

Might be hard to stomach.

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Sarcasm - 310 days 7 hours ago

Pretty bold claims considering nobody's seen the 360 version. And not to mention the latest trailer has some average character animations even for a high end PC.

Anybody want to see some super insane fluid life-like animations? See Exhibit "God of War III"

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whitto - 310 days 7 hours ago

Maybe, but the PS3 has 7 SPU's aswell as the main CPU, the 360, doesnt.

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Lifendz - 310 days 7 hours ago

Heavy Rain has been displayed at length and we still have nothing on Alan Wake other than hopes and speculation.

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Jinxstar - 310 days 7 hours ago

@ Drewdrakes

High Rez Crackdown Screens

http://punchbutton.beloblog...

http://nukoda.com/wp-conten...

looks ok. Now look at these

http://talkplaystation.com/...

http://www.dailygame.net/ne...

Big difference imo... Thats what you get when you go PS3 exclusive openworld game...

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kevoncox - 310 days 6 hours ago

There is nothing I have seen of Alan Wake that tells me it's an amazing game. It doesn't even look that good. Why is everyone so hyped about this game? Its all potential!

Moving on. Most of the PS3 "graphical power" stem from the ability of Sony's developers. They are very talanted and very stylized. Give the 360 same developers and they will make the 360 dance in ways you have never seen. Unfortunatly, we will never know because all the amazing games are PS3 exclusive...

However, i find it not coicendence that a game like FF13 was once thought unattainable on the 360 and now it's multiplat it's seen as no big deal. I honestly, believe that the 360 can do a game like Killzone but they will have to reprogram. Developers are the driving forces in the industry this gen, not the machines themselves.

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Rapture333 - 310 days 6 hours ago

Watching this demo I thought it was beautiful, I was surprised to see it wasn't on the PC! Until of course, I came here and learned it was. That's a sale!

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marinelife9 - 310 days 6 hours ago

Hip Hop must have forgotten that was PC footage.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 310 days 6 hours ago

Jinxster: Did you just compare a 2.5 year old game to a game that isn't even out yet?

Crackdown was a top notch game to many and one of the most fun sandbox games this gen. When I look at Infamous I see a Crackdown clone with lightening. I don't know much about the game itself so I base this just off gameplay videos.

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Amanosenpai - 310 days 6 hours ago

;)

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mpmaley - 310 days 6 hours ago

EXACTLY @ PC Version.

I don't think we've actually seen non PC pics.

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Xi - 310 days 6 hours ago

IMO crackdown looks as good.

http://media.herald-dispatc...

not to mention, you're comparing a 2.5 year old game with one that isn't even released yet.

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zlatko - 310 days 6 hours ago

Alan Wake from what we have seen and told about it, which isn't much, seems...fail like. It's going to take an elaborate amount of new details, in game footage, a demo on marketplace, and an unprecidented amount of marketing to make me think differently.

I'm all for games surprising me to turn out great when I thought it would be nothing great, but it generally takes a demo at the LEAST for that encouragement to occur. Perfect example is Tom Clancy's HAWX.

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xwabbit - 310 days 5 hours ago

Powertesties how can having 2 CPU's be the same as having 7 ?

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Diugu - 310 days 5 hours ago

Its weird to say things like those when you know nothing about the game.

Hard to understand the way these lunatics think hehehe

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Xi - 310 days 5 hours ago

it's 3 cpus each with 2 cores (6cores total) which are hyperthreaded.

compared to 9 spe's (cores) with 1 dedicated to os functions and 2 dedicated to overflow.

however, most graphics functions are done by the gpu.

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40cal - 310 days 5 hours ago

Show and prove time ladies and gentlemen.

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vdesai - 310 days 4 hours ago

I bet you don't game on PC if you did then you would not have made such a dire mistake. "3 CPU each with 2 cores" No its a Xenon with one CPU that is 3 cores. Each core can handle two hardware threads which is NOT the same as 6 cores or processors. The single PPE in the PS3 is also single threaded while the seven SPEs are single threaded giving developers the freedom to work with up to 8 threads.

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RonRico - 310 days 4 hours ago

I'm glad u brought up Heavenly Sword. I just beat that last night. Although it is kind of short, what an awesome game. And the graphics are sweet! Amazing for a close-to-launch title.

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pain777pas - 310 days 3 hours ago

I'd like to see the proof of this. I have a feeling this is BS but I hope its true.

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BiG_LU - 310 days 2 hours ago

This guy must be on drugs cuz to this game surpass Killzone 2 lol, give me a brake and for those that think I'm a fan, I don't think so, I love games and that's why I have both system but u r welcome to send me a friend request in the 360.
I said that cuz this is my opinion, don't want to get problem from fanboys but I don't see the good thing about this game, it might be a good game but graphically for me is ight but nothing out of the line, so just wait and enjoy ur game and that's about it.

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freddukes - 310 days ago

Okay... A CPU generally acquries info from both northbridge and southbridge and "calculates" the queries and sends back the results... In lamest terms, it does a bit of rendering, but the GPU does most of the rendering... Comparing a pre-rendered video to a video which renders on the fly in terms of CPU power is similar to comparing a DVD against a Game in terms of CPU power... If he's asking this, then he should be asking "Look at the quality of [insert optical disk drive here], they're FAR better than rendered images from games". It's basically the same thing...

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AnttiApina - 310 days ago

Killzone 2 = narrow shooter
Heavy Rain = a little bit open world game
Alan Wake = SANBOX GAME!

See the difference? We can't compare these graphics!

Oh and I am waiting to see some footage soon. After all, they stated that 360 version is looking really good.

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whitto - 309 days 21 hours ago

First of all, stop hyping Alan Wake!!

You dont even know what the 360 version will look like since everything they have showed has been running on high-end PC's !!

Why would they show the version that wont look as good as the game can, ofcourse they will demo the game on a PC.

Second, Infamous is a Sandbox game and look at them graphics!!

http://image.com.com/gamesp...

http://uk.gamespot.com/page...

http://uk.gamespot.com/page...

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SL1M DADDY - 309 days 20 hours ago

"who's e-penis is bigger" argument... Sorry, but who the flock cares? The Cell has been proven to generate great graphics when coupled with the GPU int he PS3. The 360 has had some good looking games but all of a sudden, Killzone 2 hits and now we hear 360 fanboys talk graphics when for the last year they have touted game play and the number of games they have in their library. Well, I have both systems and the PS3 is the prettiest, and the 360 has the highest quantity. So ask yourself, do you want quality? Or Quantity? Best of both worlds here.

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edgeofblade - 309 days 15 hours ago

How is the tech demoy proof any different from Killzone 2 or ayny other PS3 game? I'm not going to be singing it's praises until I see something more concrete, that's for sure, but that ugly Sony-Microsoft double-standard is rearing it's head again.

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olivia - 309 days 14 hours ago

LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
lol lmao 3 plus years and the best the 360 as is gears 1 and 2 with way easier to develop for system
lmao ,funny how 2 days till killzone 2 goes world wide sh*t news like this pops up?

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kewlkat007 - 305 days 18 hours ago

what is Infamous coming out?

Again devs are not created equal, why don't we have infamous devs or whatever game people choose as ammo develop a game on the competitors console.

Comparing games you'll never see on one or the other is useless..

Different devs have different skills and make different products with the hardware given to them.

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Parapraxis - 310 days 9 hours ago

This "article" is actually by HyDRo1X , a lot of stories from HHG.com are posted by him.
That being said, he is following HHG's lead in using titles to sensationalize the story to garner more hits.
I dislike this concept.

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ThatCanadianguy420 - 310 days 8 hours ago

"HHG" Is actually a very nice guy.I didn't mind when he did his little shows every sunday..Even tho he got most of his info from right here on N4G..

But now with all these pure flame-bait "articles" formed just to cater to the N4G community and fan the flames of hate even more,it's getting out of hand now.It needs to stop.

The irony is,he talks about other game journalists useing flame-bait stories to get hits to their site..while he does it worse then anyone i've ever seen..

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Parapraxis - 310 days 7 hours ago

ThatCanadianguy420 - "he talks about other game journalists useing flame-bait stories to get hits to their site..while he does it worse then anyone i've ever seen.. "

Hey, go look at some headlines from Analogue Hype. IMO the site that does it the most, they even bragged about using titles to get hits over at the Bitbag forums.

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Jazz4108 - 310 days 3 hours ago

you mean only if it does not benefit you?

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Parapraxis - 310 days 9 hours ago

currently, zero. As it's vaporware.

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BGDad - 310 days 6 hours ago

Second DX10 is a joke... Years later you can still do basically the same thing on Dx9.

Third I remember all of you saying Killzone trailer wasnt possible but now every game can achieve this? WTF ever Alan Wake will be average at best and who the heck is buying it for the 360 anyhow which really makes this more of a PC vs Killzone 2 because i guarentee Killzone 2 will look better than the 360 version of Alan Wake but if not who cares, as Alan Wake is nothing more then a single player game so whats the point.

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 309 days 19 hours ago

"360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake"
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"Sony Cell and 360 CPU are Equals"
;-D ;-D ;-D

Top 2 Article/Stories on this site!!! ;-D
Pathetic really, oh well they both made me Laugh out Loud!!! ;-D

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olivia - 309 days 15 hours ago

lol lmao 3 plus years and the best the 360 as is gears 1 and 2 with way easier to develop for system
lmao.funny how just two days till killzone 2 gets release world wide sh*t news like this comes up?

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Deadman64 - 309 days 14 hours ago

is it really killzone week? I honestly wouldn't know. Haven't heard anything about it

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borgome - 309 days 11 hours ago

Don't you mean the articles made you R.O.R. (Raf out Roud)

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kevinberger - 309 days 7 hours ago

Let it go!!!! Does it really come down to graphics or cell power? How many people have a 47 inch 1080P TV to take advantage? It comes down to games, the PS2 had superior games and was the superior system. And as an owner of both a 360 and PS3, the 360 is currently superior.
Sorry but I play it more, and the majority of third party games play better (I like the controller, and for you graphics whores they are superior). I am a huge fan of Uncharted and am purchasing KZ2, which will kick ass, but Gears annilihates Resistance and Fable II is just plain awesome. So both systems are great, it is just that the 360 is better right now, and Alan Wake will be a great game

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rucky - 310 days 9 hours ago

Noby Noby Boy already killed all those games graphically.

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Beg For Mercy - 310 days 9 hours ago

you cant be serious can you, have you forgot about heavy rain uncharted 2 team icos game god of war 3 god dude you are so delusional, wake up already you gotta ps3 you should know the difference in graphics quality between 360 and ps3, i tryed to go back and play world at war online on 360 and almost couldn't because i thought it was so damn ugly, cause i played the killzone2 demo a lot, and keep praying that lost planet 2 looks better than killzone just like resident evil 5 suppose to right.

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rucky - 310 days 9 hours ago

At least my joke was better than yours

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Lou-Cipher - 310 days 7 hours ago

None of those games will be able to top Wipeout HD,and Wipeout HD is only a PSN title, so what makes you think they will be able to top:

Uncharted 1&2 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Little Big Planet (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Flower (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Motorstorm 1&2 (Only Gears 2 looks better)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Gran Turismo 5 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
God of War III (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Heavy Rain (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Wardevil Enigma (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Killzone 2 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Ratchet & Clank 1&2 (Only Gears 2 looks better)
MLB 08: The Show (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
MLB 09: The Show (No exclusive on 360 looks better)

Sorry to disappoint you but, the 360 is always going to lack Audio & Visual Quality, when compared to the PS3.

There are better ways (and more believable ways) to defend the 360, because to try and make believe that the 360s graphics are on par with the PS3s graphics is just plain silly.

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I_Luv_2_Game - 310 days 7 hours ago

i can't believe that u let yourself make that comment.. fanboys are going extreme..

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GiantEnemyCrab - 310 days 6 hours ago

Lou-Cipher: Your post gave me a good laugh. Nothing on 360 looks as good as Flower?? GT5P looks better than any 360 exclusive? Wow! What kind of TV do you own? Is it even HD? Several of those games you list aren't even out and all you've seen/heard is what has been spoonfed by the dev's and journalists.

As a PS3 owner I'm not buying that bullsh*t. KZ2 and MGS4 are graphic powerhouses that the 360 needs to rise to the challenge but the rest of that list is all PS3 propoganda from a droid who obviously has not played a 360 to even make the comparison.

Much like this article, which we haven't seen enough of Alan Wake to say if it challenges the PS3 cell processor or not. I am personally more looking forward to see what RAGE looks like. They are using "megatextures" as they call them and I think that game might be setting a new graphic bar on consoles.

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xbollox - 310 days 6 hours ago

what a big load of xbollox!

dynamic lighting is easy when you just have 3 or 4 lights but show me 80 lights? nah, for that, you need killzone 2.

it is easy to do a flashy physics demo when you only have 1 character and a simple scenery in the background.

in killzone 2, you have whole building collapsing and physics applied to thousands of debris and sparkles **while** having dozens of characters and weapons, you know like in a real game.

yet another load of propaganda bullsh!t for ignorant losers

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DNAgent - 310 days 4 hours ago

Huh? Where was your joke?

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rbrtchng - 310 days 2 hours ago

You've never played any of those games have you..

Speaking from experience, Splinter Cell on the 360 was the slowest, worst frame rate, worst pop-in game in a long time.

And Ferrari is a racing game you idiot lol. And even so, KZ2 kills that game.

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SWANN - 309 days 11 hours ago

Man, Please stop the free-basing!

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 310 days 8 hours ago

HAHA you are so blinded from MS that you go as far as claiming that small tiny pic as photo-real looking? HAHA I could search for a 3d turd on google images, shrink it, and stretch it like the pic you posted and it would look just as "real" like you claim. lol. What a joke post. Do you actually read what you write?

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mrdxpr2 - 310 days 6 hours ago

why dis how old are u 12 cause u sure make a statement like one ... stop trying to make your point proven u got nothing aint nothing on 360 gona be graphicaly better then ps3 ok soo just sit back and enjoy playing your half as$ games ok :)

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Lou-Cipher - 310 days 4 hours ago

PSN: Lou-Cipher
Xbox Live: SuperiorMindset

Sony 52 inch XBR4 1080p 120Hz TV With HDMI cable
PS3 Launch 60gig 43 retail games & 29 PSN games
Xbox 360 Elite / 5 retail games & 1 XBLA game (GTA TLAD) roomate has more games on his 360.

Yes Flower & GT5 Prologue looks better than Gears 2, but Gears2 is more impressive than Flower, due to all of the action going on in the background, but if you want to talk about the amount of stuff that is happening on screen, then Heavenly Sword tops Gears 2 in that category.

Flower tops Gears 2 in pure visuals ,but not in overall stuff on screen.

The only games I have not seen, that I previously listed is: Gran Turismo 5 & Ratchet & Clank FTOD 2, and I think it is fair to say that GT 5 will top GT5P in the graphics department(same can be said about R&C FToD2, and since GT5P looks better then Gears 2, I think it is OK to assume that GT5 will look better than any thing on the 360 so far, or in the near future.

I do agree about rage, and what it might become visually.

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WickedSick - 310 days 3 hours ago

LMFAO Whydick! Are you seriously that desperate to defend a pathetic game like Asslan Wait that you have to embarrass yourself as well as making you look real stupid at the same time.. Your hopeless bot! Real hopeless!

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Max Power - 310 days 7 hours ago

its because of its title, and they know it, that is why they do it.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 310 days 6 hours ago

Oh thank you! I needed a droid to tell me how my 360 can't run something.

I think the flaming you are doing needs to be directed at the engines running these games and not on the hardware.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 310 days 6 hours ago

Yes...because YOU have more knowledge of how powerful "your" 360 is.

The 360 simply doesn't have the processing power to do all of that without at least some sacrifice.

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silverchode - 310 days 6 hours ago

why so paranoid?

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Belasco - 310 days 6 hours ago

is multi core, moron.

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floppyfeet - 310 days 6 hours ago

a generation built on autistic sony fans

The xbox 360 has 3 cores running at 3.2 ghz noob.

Thats faster then the ps3's cell

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 310 days 6 hours ago

Three tortoises next to each other running still aren't going to catch up to the one hare in front of them.

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nycredude - 308 days 1 hour ago

You are even more of a moron than him cause you called him out on his mistake and proceeded to make the same mistake.

"Thats faster then the ps3's cell"

Maybe you should do some research before you comment and call someone out.

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Ken92JP - 310 days 6 hours ago

Why dis = dumbass

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Nelson M - 309 days 18 hours ago

You saw me run for cover when i heard the name Alan Wake

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