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Banjo and Kazooie in 'For HD Eyes Only'

Kombo writes: Congratulations, Rare. You've just lost a customer.

Word has gotten around that the demo of Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is rather hard to read on a standard-definition TV. As such, there have been complaints about it in places such as the NeoGAF forums, and as such, Rare Community Manager George K. told everyone that they were looking into the text issue for the retail version of the game. So that was good. Until this came back...

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jay2 - 428 days 14 hours ago

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People who struggle to read the text in SD need to ware glasses, I'v tried and could with no prblem.

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OgTheClever - 428 days 12 hours ago

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It's actually impossible in LBP to read the number of people currently playing on each level in the cool section, on an SDTV, however close to the screen you are - and I do wear glasses.

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robotnik - 428 days 3 hours ago

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Dead Rising had that problem too.

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gaffyh - 428 days 2 hours ago

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Everyone should buy a HDTV anyway, when you watch something in HD and compare it to SD you'll realise how awesome HD actually is.

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Capt CHAOS - 427 days 20 hours ago

1.4 - Well, I just hope this works well on my b&w crt tv.

Mind you, it's one of those big ones.. 26" I think..

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Rob0g0rilla - 428 days 13 hours ago

2 - Just like Dead Rising

Time to upgrade. HDTVs are getting cheaper and cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Vizio...

A lot better then what it cost 3 years ago. There's even more cheaper then that and around the holidays the prices will come down even more.

PS3 and 360 game are optimized to play in HD. Some actually suffer when played in SD. If you can spend 200 or 400 dollars on a PS3 or 360 and buy 60 dollar games then come on. Might as well stick to a PS2 if you don't plan on playing them in HD.

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LBD_Nytetrayn - 428 days 13 hours ago

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Not that cheap. Feel free to donate, though, since you've clearly got enough money to talk.

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stiggs - 428 days 12 hours ago

2.2 - LDB_Nytetrayn, stop complaining.

I have 3 HDTV sets. I also have a Master's Degree and a 50 hr./week job. It's interesting that you complain about the cost of your hobby yet you are willing to ask for a gift to support that hobby from a total stranger. That paints a pretty vivid picture of someone who's petty and self entitled. Sorry, but I'll stick to donating to worthy charities.

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LBD_Nytetrayn - 428 days 12 hours ago

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Oh, bugger off. I was clearly being facetious, and don't even try to hide behind the "it's the internet, I can't tell" excuse. I'm not looking for a handout, but I can't just decide to say "Oh, I think I'll go buy an HDTV today, for lack of anything else to spend all my money on."

No, like many others, I have bills and things to pay, and an HDTV just doesn't fit into my list of priorities right now, especially not with the economy in the state it's in.

I'll gladly buy an HDTV once I can afford it, but in the meantime, it would be nice if Microsoft would show a little more consideration for those who love this hobby, but can't afford such luxuries just to keep playing in it. If they want to be that elitist about it, then maybe the damn thing shouldn't work on SDTVs at all. Problem solved.

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Why o why - 428 days 11 hours ago

2.4 - stiggs

let me guess, you own an XBOX ELITE right?

im kidding but ill spend 1oo quid on games a moth yet i would never pay the .00000000004 pence a day (whatever it is) for xbox live. Ill admit that hdtvs and next gen consoles do go hand in hand but not everybody is as organised, fortunate or stupid with their cash as the rest of us.

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JoySticksFTW - 428 days 4 hours ago

2.5 - Hi Stiggs,

I have a pretty good set-up too, but I don't go rubbing it in other gamers' faces, you arrogant arse

I hope you slip and fall, bang your head, and become an even bigger retard than you are now - Mr Masters Degree

You and Da Man have fun watcing your three hdtv's ;)

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Kyur4ThePain - 428 days 13 hours ago

3 - WTF

You bought an HD console, buy an HDTV.

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Kigmal - 428 days 13 hours ago

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Bubbles for you. "oh but I can't afford it" bullsh*t. you got money to buy games buy an HDTV their not that expensive anymore.

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LastDance - 428 days 13 hours ago

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haha...logic is a virtue guys;)....learn it.

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LBD_Nytetrayn - 428 days 12 hours ago

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1) It was a gift, so no, I didn't even buy it. A friend upgraded his 360, and gave his old one to me.

2) I really can't afford to just go and spend $400 like that.

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BWS1982 - 428 days 12 hours ago

3.4 - I like how some of the people think it's

a matter of hard work=lots of money. Yes, most of the time, it does. I'm an exception, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I have severe Crohns disease, and my life came tumbling around me in pieces, I can't even work and I'm disability until they can figure out how to treat me. I'm not looking for pity, so don't go there, I'm pointing out that when someone loses their income and they have an expertise and good capacity to earn, it's not always "stupid lazy people" that should exit your naive mouths.

I could afford an HDTV 2 years ago when I was healthy, the day after Thanksgiving, got one for $200, but what I'm saying is I've been on both sides of the fence. Try to consider the many shades of gray in this world, please.

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Milo Garret - 428 days 10 hours ago

3.5 - ^

Don't bother man, kids won't understand untill they actually have to live without the support of their parents and start paying their own sh!t.

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jspc1989 - 428 days ago

3.6 - anyone self centred enough

to turn around and say ''you have a hd console you shud have brought a hdtv'' needs to take their head out from where the sun doesn't shine.

I myself do have one, but i completely understand everyone who doesnt. Yes they have gotten alot cheaper but theyre stil comparatively very expensive. An average 32" inch costs around £200-300 here in the UK for a 720p. And im sorry but if there are people on this website who really genuinly think that isnt expensive to someone who maybe has a mortgage, a car, and family to feed then they need a wake up call.

The day this website starts getting personal about other peoples financial statuses is the day i seriously consider leaving.

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cheapndirty - 427 days 20 hours ago

3.7 - Snobs

There are many people that get into next gen gaming and choose not to or can not buy an HDTV. Maybe they have other pressing things to use their money on. Maybe they do not want to spend it just yet. The console makers are aware that people still use SDTV. How else can you explain that the ps3 includes composite cables?

I have been very fortunate to be able to have the extra money to buy an HDTV projector and plasma tv, but that does not qualify me (nor anyone else) to look down or belittle others that can not or will not.

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BWS1982 - 427 days 16 hours ago

3.8 - One good point:

I went to my first gastroenterologist specialist's office in June at Rush University, that bill alone, for ONE appointment (an office visit because my old GI doc couldn't treat me anymore), was more than you can get a PS3 and a game for right now. They billed that appointment $495 dollars. Money doesn't stretch, it rips.

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beavis4play - 428 days 13 hours ago

4 - maybe i'm missing something.....

what's the big deal? isn't what is shown in text being said by characters? it isn't necessary to read the text is it? but if it's necessary to read the text, then bit mistake by rare.

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GiantEnemyLobster - 428 days 13 hours ago

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Banjo uses its trademark'd mumbling instead of voice acting. Voice acting would ruin it, think if a Zelda game had voice acting. eww.

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LBD_Nytetrayn - 428 days 12 hours ago

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As noted, they do the mumbling thing. If everything written was also spoken, that would be less of a problem. Unless, of course, you're deaf or hard of hearing. But I'm not going to go into that, except to say I definitely sympathize.

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Milo Garret - 428 days 10 hours ago

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Yes, forcing people to read is always a mistake.

(sarcasm?)

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Cheeseknight28 - 428 days 13 hours ago

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This article really ticks me off... for example:

"If they can't be bothered to make the text legible, I can't be bothered to turn over 40 bucks for it. Which is too bad-- besides wanting to play the game, probably more than anything else on Xbox 360 this holiday season"

If you really wanted to play BK more than anything else this year, then you wouldn't care that much about the text. I'm sorry, but I can't see it being that big of a problem. The conversations are meaningless.

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LBD_Nytetrayn - 428 days 12 hours ago

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Never said I wanted to play it more than anything this year... just anything on Xbox 360.

My understanding is that there are some tutorials in the game as well that have to be read, which could make things difficult.

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meepmoopmeep - 428 days 13 hours ago

6 - soooo...

Banjo is an RPG with a lot of dialogue to read?

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GVON - 428 days 13 hours ago

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no. but they used to have really funny scripts,also with the cheapest 360 being aimed at consumers who may not have the money for a big HDTV,this would be a disappointment to a young kid who just got one for his room and can't read what to do in the game.

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meepmoopmeep - 428 days 12 hours ago

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yeah, i guess, i'm sure Rare will fix it before release.
has it gone gold yet?

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GVON - 428 days 12 hours ago

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I don't know when the game is out but I would guess it has.

I think from reading the rare dudes post, that to patch this they would have to redo all the text used in the game (in every language)in SD,then send that out in a patch,so it's not a quick fix

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Software_Lover - 428 days 13 hours ago

7 - Is today national Cry like a biyotch day

Resistance 2 reviews. I cant read. Get hooked on phonics then and call it a day. People cry about everything. The game is 40.00. I guess they did the fans a dis-service there also.

I dont even want the game and people are getting on my nerves, LOL.

But in a small way I can understand where he's coming from. But in another way I cant. If reading the text is that important, and you dont have the money for a decent HDTV, go out and buy the vga cord for the 360 and use your pc monitor.

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tatotiburon - 428 days 13 hours ago

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GTA san andreas had the same problem in the original xbox, this isn't new now with HD consoles.

So what are the options?, stop playing HD consoles in SD tv's, they are only for the wii. Yes i know, LCD or Plasma aren't cheap, so buy a freaking Xbox to VGA adapter and play you xbox 360 games in a pc display with better resoluttion.

http://www.amazon.com/Micro...

Only us$20

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ugabugaz - 428 days 13 hours ago

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There's a problem with that, no sound!

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tatotiburon - 428 days 13 hours ago

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are you blind?, can't you see the red and white cable?

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SoulKillah - 428 days 13 hours ago

9 - i hate it how

some devs make their games WideScreen only :(

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thor - 428 days 13 hours ago

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I hate(d) it how some games would not run in widescreen on a widescreen SDTV!

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Bathyj - 428 days 11 hours ago

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I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M YELLING!!!

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Milo Garret - 428 days 10 hours ago

9.3 - ^

HAHA!

Ohh, anchorman flashback!

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thor - 428 days 13 hours ago

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If they made all the text bigger so you could read it (I've had games that have had this problem) there wouldn't be so much reason to get an HDTV. Not being able to see the text sharply was one of the reasons I got an HDTV. Yes it looks great, but I do get a kind of "emperor's new clothes" vibe about the whole thing. Especially when I need to actually look closely to see the difference between SD and HD on a film. Most of the time I'm paying attention to what's happening ON the screen rather than analysing the picture quality.

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OOG - 428 days 12 hours ago

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sounds like dead rising when that came out....didnt know what I was doing... lol

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iggypop123 - 428 days 12 hours ago

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just patch everything already

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saphiron - 428 days 11 hours ago

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to bad for those with a SD TV looking forward to Banjo driving minigames.

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Bathyj - 428 days 11 hours ago

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If you're gonna have an HD console, you really should have a HDTV. If not, get a Wii.

And I certainly hope non of you guys with SDTV's are the ones whining in these graphics comparison videos that keep coming up, because if you dont have an HDTV your picture looks like crap anyway.

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anubis12 - 428 days 11 hours ago

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screw the sd people....its time for a change...if not stick with the ps2 with the rest of the minority

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ElementX - 428 days 11 hours ago

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LOL. All you people with SDTVs get a credit card. You can go to Best Buy and pay no interest for a year. If your credit is so bad that you can't get a Best Buy card, maybe you shouldn't be gaming, you should be paying your bills. I've had an HDTV for 5 years. I bought a 34" Sony Trinitron CRT!!!!! TV, it weighs 200lbs according to the manual, but hey, I could afford one when I was 23yo. It's a great tv, sure it's only 1080i, however I've been gaming in HD for 5 years. Remember Soul Caliber 2? Yeah, I played it in 720p on the ORIGINAL Xbox. Best thing about CRTs? NO pixelization during movie explosions! I went to Best Buy a month ago and they're showing demos of movies with lots of explosions and current LCDs and even Plasmas have pixelization during heavy action sequences. Anyway, I'm drinking and I digress, but I love my TV.

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Bathyj - 428 days 10 hours ago

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Not on BluRay explosions.

Maybe this will help the penny drop for some people, When you have an HDTV, you tend to want HD content to watch on it.

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sertz - 428 days 9 hours ago

17 - overreacting...

the text honestly isnt all that bad. i mean i have an SDTV in the living room and a small 26" HDTV my room, and obviously the HDTV is much clearer and easier to read, but its not bad on the SDTV. perfectly legible. i think Rare handled that situation very well, and very fairly. would it have been better if they had ignored it and not responded at all? be thankful that they are even replying to you. i thought capcom handled this situation MUCH worse with dead rising.

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PS360WiiRocks - 428 days 7 hours ago

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seriously? I couldn't IMAGINE playing my PS3/X360 without HDTV, I never have, it's the first thing I bought after the console and I was 18. I'd rather have a PS2 than a non-HDTV and either system. Sorry to people who don't have a HDTV, I understand they're expensive.

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Wit_wolfy - 428 days 7 hours ago

19 - This is childish

everybody knows X360 and PS3 was ment for HD and obviously games will be aimed more to the HD side of things , cause people demand higher graphics and higher frame rates, now that its happening you crap in your pants cause your puny SD tv cant handle the standard resolution. This is am expensive Hobby. I also recently had a SDtv and went and bought a Full HD LCD on credit c'mon if a minnimum wage every day guy can do it so can you.

Why play a game on its lowest resolution when its ment for greater qaulity if you dissagree then switch back to PS2. Some customers dont know what they want

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Jenzo - 428 days 6 hours ago

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Don't care if it's hard to read. I want this game NOW!

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Bots Of A Feather Flop Together - 428 days 13 hours ago

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I'll stick with my N64 copy of Banjo

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GiantEnemyLobster - 428 days 13 hours ago

1.1 - Don't worry no customers are lost (except dumb Kombo of course)

Us Xbox 360 owners all own an HDTV, since we still had plenty of money left over after buying our 360s.

Poor PStards are broke or in debt after spending 599 US dollars on their patchstation 3 that they can't afford an HDTV so they have to borrow their grandma's 1970 tube TV

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PoSTedUP - 428 days 13 hours ago

1.2 - hey!

i LIKE my tube t.v. thank you very much >: 0. dont be dissin the tube man. XD

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0verdrive - 428 days 13 hours ago

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lol lobster, you must have like a 19" hdtv, because thats probably all your going to get from ALL that money you saved by buying an xbox. oh wait, thats right, 17" 480p kuz of xbox live? oh yeah, how about that wifi...or maybe you just go over to your neighbors house to play.

seriously, though. that saving money on xbox argument is so old.

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The Unwanted Truth - 428 days 13 hours ago

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The Xbox 360 is still cheaper than the PS3, despite your claims.

Xbox 360 Arcade model: $199.99
+ 5 Arcade games, 1 Wireless Controller, 2 Games bundled with it, LIVE trials
Xbox LIVE 13 months: $49.99
20GB + 3 months of LIVE: $29.99
Gears of War 2: $59.99
Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts: $39.99

To the grand total of $379.95 + individual tax, you get an Xbox 360, 16 months of LIVE, and 4 games.

Contrast that to the 80GB PS3.

80GB PS3: $399.99
+ Dualshock 3 controller
+ Blu-ray drive remote

To the grand total of $399.99 + individual tax, you get a Playstation 3, Dualshock 3 controller, Blu-ray drive remote, free online, no games.

The unwanted truth.

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The Unwanted Truth - 428 days 12 hours ago

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Great... 399€... Americans can really afford that mess. Converting American dollars to Euros at this time of economical crisis is the most logical thing to do.

I'll looking of Bestbuy.com. Sorry, this is an American price comparison, though in the UK, there's crazy bundles over at some Sainsbury stores. Bundles like Arcade models + 2 games of your choice for 169 pounds or something to that extend.

Also I forgot to mention, you can use the Dell deal on the 360 so you can potentially get a Xbox 360 Arcade for $159.

379.95
-40.00
________
$339.95 + individual tax, with that reasoning, you can throw in Left 4 Dead for $51.99 at Amazon.

339.95
+51.99
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$391.94 + individual tax, 5 games now.

The unwanted truth.

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FCC - 428 days 12 hours ago

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Damned huge contrast in prices there.

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CAPT IRISH - 428 days 10 hours ago

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unwanted truth needs to get a life

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robotnik - 428 days 3 hours ago

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Unwanted truth is getting owned hard.

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0verdrive - 427 days 16 hours ago

1.11 - @1.4

what you speak is not "truth" its just unwanted.

yawn, if you want a stripped down basic version of a xbox i SUPPOSE you could argue that, but i mean, i could argue that i can get a car that has 4 wheels, an engine, and a seat for new for 2 thousand dollars. the point is, that most everyone is not going to buy a arcade bundle, they are probably going to spend more to get the pro, and even if they do buy an arcade version they are going to spend enough money on accessories to make it comparable to a pro version price wise.

the bottom line is there is no way you are going to save enough money buying a 360 to be able to afford a hdtv. youll save AT MOST $200, and that is leaving you with a console WITHOUT a hdd, no accessories, no wifi, no live, and no bd player. $200 is not going to buy you a hdtv, it can barely buy you a decent monitor.

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FCC - 427 days 15 hours ago

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Your analogy actually really fails to grasp what's being said here. You also missed a part in his little comparison.

"20GB + 3 months of LIVE: $29.99"

There is a hdd, there is Live. No wifi, but some people don't have wireless routers but it's still nice to have.

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0verdrive - 427 days 11 hours ago

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regardless of whether or not the xbox has an hdd, the main point of the argument and the relevance to the article is that you are NOT going to save enough money on buying an xbox, albeit the $200 arcade version, to buy an hdtv. i just include the stripped down arcade version because that is going to save you the most money, and the amount of money you are saving is the thing in question.

im not trying to argue that the ps3 is cheaper than an xbox, its pretty obvious that it isnt. but thats not to say that it is not as good of a deal or better than a cheap xbox, if you can fork up the money.

however, the original argument was that one could use saved money on an xbox vs a ps3 to buy an hdtv, and im just pointing out that that is a weak argument.

and to add: the unwanted truth claims that a arcade bundle is 199 and includes 2 bundled games. he claims he saw it at bestbuy, but i have yet to see anything even close to a deal like that. also, he is comparing ps3 retail vs deals on xbox if you buy a computer, and games on amazon, which sells for reduced prices. at least keep it consistent.

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Ps3Fanboy777 - 428 days 13 hours ago

2 - Who doesnt own a flat screen by now?

Seriously its time to upgrade.

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I Got 99 Problems But A Flop Ain't One - 428 days 13 hours ago

3 - It looks like crap on SD?

Word?Are the graphics that bad,HAHA?

Pardon me I had to laugh at that.

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The Unwanted Truth - 428 days 13 hours ago

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And the demo is > than anything on the PS3.

Banjo N64 > Banjo N&B > Xbox 360 Exclusives > Flops on Xbox 360 > Sega Genesis > Dreamcast > SNES > Anything > PS3 Exclusives/Flops

The unwanted truth, up to the point where Sega Genesis gets in, I'll be less sarcastic and be more rational, PS3 Exclusives are there in place of Sega Genesis.

:)

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thor - 428 days 12 hours ago

4.2 - The Unwanted Truth

OK you almost had me there with your 360/PS3 price comparison. But now you've gone and spoilt it by being irrational.

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The Unwanted Truth - 428 days 12 hours ago

4.3 -

It's the unwanted truth though. :)

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The Unwanted Truth - 428 days 12 hours ago

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It is the unwanted truth, as you do not want it and it actually is the truth. Do not argue please, you're embarrassing yourself.

Microsoft most likely has the RROD solution with the new Jasper motherboards, better heatsinks, less heat generated, less power used. Probably would be as reliable as the Wii or PS3.

Problem with that is that RROD will still happen due to refurbished consoles being thrown around left and right with old motherboards in there, obviously Microsoft can't fix the problem until it's actually dead.

Personally, seeing as the Arcade units now and my console would be a near launch console, I sold my Pro model for $140 at a Gamestop and I bought a new arcade unit for $199.

You might say I "lost" around 60-70 dollars but really, I gained 2 games, another controller, a memory card, 5 arcade games. Good enough for me for 60-70 dollars.

The unwanted truth.

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FCC - 428 days 12 hours ago

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The Unwanted Truth's sarcasm and facts are astounding...

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cliffbo - 428 days 13 hours ago

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if you want to promote HD on your machine include Blu-ray. maybe your userbase will not be upset and will understand

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