360 battered PS3 in the US last month, says Pachter

PirateThom - 443 days 19 hours ago

Every month this year, it's been the opposite to what Pachter said.

So, he's at least got the order right this time!

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B-Rein - 443 days 18 hours ago

its becouse of the price drop, it has become the cheaped hd console ever now at only £129.99, damn that is ever soo cheap

(but it dues get expensive if ya wanna get the acc that u need to get the experience of the 360)

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leila01 - 443 days 18 hours ago

I predict 200-240k for the PS3, 240-300k for the 360. You'll see ;)

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GVON - 443 days 18 hours ago

I don't think this will surprise anyone if the sales prove to be correct,I think it's obvious it will sell more at a lower price.

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ThanatosDMC - 443 days 18 hours ago

I'm still annoyed that people like Patcher get paid a lot of money by pulling numbers out of their asses.

"Pay me 100k a year, and i'll predict you future 50% of the time!"

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Bangladesh - 443 days 18 hours ago

It's Michael Pachter, expect the 360 to be 400,000 and the PS3 to be 125k-150k.

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karlostomy - 443 days 17 hours ago

360 = 500000
ps3 = -100000 (trading in their ps3s for 360s)

and why wouldn't they? ... after that bioshock debacle.... sheesh!

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PimpHandStrong - 443 days 17 hours ago

thats all they could pull off!

hahahahahahahaha

When PS3 hits 300 bucks its going to push well over that and anyway

this is Pachter

so im guessing
Wii=475,000-525,000
360=285,000-325,000
PS3= 185,000-200,00
ADD ON....thought i would add the range im thinking

ADD ON @ROB
closing the gap doesnt matter unless you think the 360 will still be sold in 8 years! Sony has said its not a sprint and they will still be selling PS3's in 7-8 years

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leyego - 443 days 16 hours ago

@1.3
i agree somewhat
170-210k for the PS3
270-340k for the 360
are my bets tho

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The Makr - 443 days 14 hours ago

I think the Xbox will pull it off with the Holdiay boost they will get.

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mikeslemonade - 443 days 14 hours ago

It's gonna be which company who supplies retailers with the most systems. This holiday both systems are going to be sold out regardless of price drop.

Last year PS3 outsold 360 and they never outsold the 360 in the U.S. This year the margin has grew larger where PS3 outsells the 360 for 7 months, the margin of the victory in Europed widened, and in Japan was consistent, so at a worldwide standpoint no matter what happens PS3 will beat 360 again this year.

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ravinash - 443 days 14 hours ago

After years chasing after the Playstations share of the market, they can see that ever so slowly, PS3 was catching up.
Now MS are changing tack and are now going after the Wii's market. What this will mean is cheaper consoles and cheaper, low budget games.
You will see less games like Halo and Bioshock that aren't cross platform, and more like Viva Pinyada and smaller games. Great for casual gamers, not so great for Hard core gamers.
Don't believe me? see what MS are doing with Ensemble Studios once they are finished with Halo Wars.

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hazeblaze - 443 days 11 hours ago

I doubt that his numbers are right.... BUT if the 360 managed to outsell the PS3 by approx 100k, then that basically reverses all the months the PS3 outsold the 360! And of course it gives MS the momentum they needed going into the holiday. The PS3 is my favorite console, but they really have an uphill battle now in terms of market share. I think they're likely to drop the price around KZ2 or GOWIII release... it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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shadowghost752 - 443 days 19 hours ago

"fooling fatties into thinking they can lose weight "

lol, bubbles for you

ontopic- i'm not sure if the margin will be that big (125,000 consoles) but anyway isn't this guy usually wrong?

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bababrooks - 443 days 18 hours ago

As a dad i have no problem with the wii, it teaches the kids hand to eye coordination and gives them many hours of enjoyment..it is not my console of choice though but then again who cares!

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KingME - 443 days 15 hours ago

If Pachter picks your console to be on top, you have something to worry about. This guy is like a walking jinx. I think an upset is in the making here.

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rogimusprime - 443 days 16 hours ago

when you sell a cheap, stripped down version with no hard drive or wireless connectivity out of the box, make people buy an expensive proprietary drive and other accessories and you get a pretty good example of the term "nickel and dime".

Maybe Sony should start selling wireless add ons and box with no HD so they can move units too. Consumers are so stupid.

I've got both systems (ps3 and xbox 360) so I'm not biased. I think the ps3 gives you more for your money these days. if only they would throw in an HDMI cable.

Back on topic, this is just patchers side job, it's not like he makes his money on predicting video game sales, so don't expect him stick by his numbers with conviction.

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PimpDaddy - 443 days 15 hours ago

Contradict much? You just ran the 360 into the ground. Then claim your not biased by saying you own a PS3 and a 360. Then go on to talk up the PS3.

Ya I'm pretty sure it doesn't get more biased than that.

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Death - 443 days 9 hours ago

If you buy the striped down $199 Arcade and then decide you wanted the storage of an Elite, you can buy the 120 gig HDD as an accessory and actually save money since it will cost $50 less than the Elite. How is saving money being nickel and dimed?

-Death

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PirateThom - 443 days 19 hours ago

The internet. It even allows people like Pachter to become celebrities.

If I start posting my predictions, maybe I'll become famous:

Wii 475K
Xbox 360 330K
PlayStation 3 224K
Nintendo DS 537K
PlayStation Portable 276K

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FreestyleBarnacle - 443 days 18 hours ago

Just out of curiosity did you simply pull those numbers out of your arse? If you end up being closer than Patcher will you advise him to follow this new technique? Then he could get paid to spend most of his time twiddling his thumbs. He'll eventually get bored and do some online shopping thus kick starting the economy and bringing us out of recession. The global feeling of relief this creates would cause world peace. How cool would that be?

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PirateThom - 443 days 18 hours ago

I looked at past months sales data and compared it with last years, taking into account the global financial climate, price drops, game releases and consumer reactions to the products.

But mostly, I just pulled the numbers out of my ass.

On a site I'm on, we have a sale figures competition, where we see who is closes to the actual numbers. Pachter is always way off the trend, rarely in the top 10. I was first last month.

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Steven Colbert - 443 days 17 hours ago

ROFL Very nice PirateThom

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PimpHandStrong - 443 days 16 hours ago

become a Republican

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aiphanes - 443 days 16 hours ago

Wii= about 525k
Xbox 360= 285k
PlayStation 3= 200k
Nintendo DS lite= 225k
PlayStation Portable= 270k

And I predict there will be a PS3 price cut in november...buy at least $50 probably $100.

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Captain_Sony - 443 days 11 hours ago

PS3 sadly isnt getting a price cut. Sony has not only stated it numerous times but you can look at their past/future bundles and upgrades for not only PS3 but PSP also as proof if this.. Cutting the price is not their focus, they seem to be more interested in adding things to make people feel that the current price is worth it.

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Gothdom - 443 days 18 hours ago

He thinks he's important for the world of gaming.

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Tarasque - 443 days 18 hours ago

Where did you get these number's? I bought a 360 for 199.99 and got my harddrive off ebay for 35 dollars including shipping. Even if you buy the new machine with 60 gig hardrive for 299.00 thats far from 400 bucks.

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Gothdom - 443 days 18 hours ago

We're talking about prices new. If you want to add used prices, then I got a PS3 for 250$, shipping included and HDMI cable included.

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TresTrendu - 443 days 18 hours ago

Well he had new prices listed, But if you want to talk used i got my 360 for 100 bucks used with cables and headset and rumble controller and 20 gig harddrive. The point of the matter is 200 bucks is alot cheaper than 400 plain and simple or 300 bucks is far cheaper than 400 bucks.

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The Lazy One - 443 days 15 hours ago

some people here know math.

$200<$300<$400

Those are the prices the consumer sees when they grab a box.

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Fishy Fingers - 443 days 18 hours ago

I imagine because it makes arguing over the small differences in PS3 Vs 360 sales seem meaningless.

Even MS and Sony seem to forget it exists when it suits them.

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Arius Dion - 443 days 14 hours ago

Simply because it destroys them in sales month in and month out...pretty much yr in and yr out now, so its best not to look at it. The two HD consoles are fighting to be the first loser (2nd place).

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Sarcasm - 443 days 17 hours ago

Yes? I'm here. :P

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tojfs7931 - 443 days ago

But, how low can they sell the 360 and still make a profit? 49.95?

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Kleptic - 443 days 18 hours ago

yeah I agree...I am expecting the 360 to at least double the PS3 for september...and I am sure MS is also...

in the end that could be better for everyone too...if the 360 crushes the PS3, maybe Sony will finally realize this 'profitability' scheme is only going to destroy momentum that took them nearly a year to build...price drop needed: yesterday...

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 443 days 18 hours ago

If the 'xBox 360' doesn't beat the 'Wii' in Sales Last Month in the US then it has Failed!!! ;-D
The xBox 360 is Cheaper than the Wii, it should do then??? I don't get it??? ;)

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Ben1054 - 443 days 16 hours ago

we still listen to this guy, hes always wrong.
p.s give me some bubbles, i lost 4 for saying that i didnt like Littlebigplanet

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razorbladelight - 443 days 15 hours ago

I was just at the LBP review and you were the only idiot talking about the X-Box in a PS3 exclusive game article... once again proving that the biggest flame starters are PS3 fans. You need to calm down man.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 443 days 13 hours ago

Er all i was saying you idiot was -
If LBP was a xBox 360 Only game it would get 10/10 from every site???
Sorry but that's the Truth!!!

+I think you'll find the xBox Fans on this are the worse thanks, i'm not as Nasty as them :-/

For over 2 years on this site the xBots ave been trying to bring down the PS3. That's IDIOTIC and PATHETIC!!!
+I am always Calm!!! ;-D

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 443 days 9 hours ago

I think they just want us to stand here and take it!!! ;-D
I didn't start to comment on this to bring down the xBox 360 + Micro$oft like most of the well known people on this who want to Destroy the PS3 + SONY??? Er why??? I just try and Defend the PlayStation Brand on this;)
+It looks like he is a Nintendo Fan??? Yeah stick up for M$ and they will try and Kill off the Wii and Nintendo to!!!
Man some people... :-/

All i'm saying is the xBox 360 SHOULD beat the Wii in the US last month(It's cheaper) If not, Why not???

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CliffyBee - 443 days 18 hours ago

my fellow M$ employee!

PS we both suck donkey nuts.

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Shane Kim - 443 days 13 hours ago

We sure do Cliffy, we sure do.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 443 days 12 hours ago

"we both suck donkey balls" and $onys balls and each others balls..

Tell us something we don't know. Now you can take your secret homo code to a PS3 thread and make sweet love to each other. You guys have some kind of homo erotic club for Xbox 360 personality imposters. Kinda like furries but without the fur and a lot more gayness.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 443 days 12 hours ago

Don't mind them they are suffering from the dreaded "last place syndrome" or LPS. They soothe their butthurt with LBP which can be applied directly for quick temporary relief before the last place symptoms return.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 443 days 12 hours ago

Wow, the great gaming taste you have is only surpassed by your quick wit!

/sarcasm.

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