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The New Advantages of the Xbox 360

Analoghype.com: A few days ago, a scholastic fellow by the name of G. Swaby posted an article listing what he saw as Advantages for his system of choice the PS3. He made a lot of valid points and presented his view in an educated manner. Of course, lots of fanboys (huge shock, mostly Sony ones) flocked to the article. Personally I respectfully disagreed with Mr. Swaby. I thought to myself some one should list the advantages the Xbox 360 has. Then, in a Michael Jackson Man in the Mirror moment, I decided to take on that task. History repeats itself. This is the reason a wise man knows it. The system that gets its development tools into game developers' hands first will win. We are seeing that now in the ease of making and quality in 360 games. What other Advantages does the neon green machine have?

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htownplaya - 435 days 17 hours ago

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good read

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Cenobia - 435 days 15 hours ago

1.1 - Warning: Excessivley long post

Could have been better if they toned down the fanboy/bias a bit. The author constantly makes one sided arguments. For example he says numerous developers have sited problems with PS3 development, but there is no mention of developers complaining about the 360s DVD size limitations.

He also says "the vast majority of Game of the Year candidate games can be played on the Xbox 360." In my opinion the games that are most likely to be GOTY are MGS4, LBP, and Fallout 3. Most of those games are on the PS3, so I don't know what games he's talking about. Gears will be a good game, but like R2 it's just a great shooter and won't get GOTY. Fable 2 might have a chance, but no one has even played it yet.

The Beta argument is valid, but Sony will likely try to increase the amount of beta's after the success of LBP's. I do hate Qore, but it it's like half the price of xbox Live and isn't mandatory. As for demo's, Microsoft is obviously willing to pay for demo exclusivity (ex. Tomb Raider) even though I don't really see a benefit in that for the publisher/developer.

Then he goes on to say Sony shows games coming way before they are ready. I honestly don't see how that is a bad thing. Is he trying to say that short sightedness is an advantage? I really don't understand that. At TGS MS announced the new Halo expansion, but beyond that and Ninja Blade what else is coming? I don't see how giving consumers no indication of what the future brings is a plus. At least as a PS3 owner I can see the games coming around the corner. Obviously Home and MAG were a little far off when they were announced, but I'm hyped for Killzone 2 even if it isn't coming until February.

Also, I don't think it's fair to call the PS3 updates unstable after one screw up. 2.4 wasn't quite ready, but I haven't had or heard of any problems before that or since (or even with 2.4). Also, I believe the NXE is bringing a similar system with it (updates can happen more frequently) so I find his commentary on that a little ironic. The XMB has always been stable, Sony just keeps adding to it and I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, I wouldn't call Live unstable just because it went down a couple of times.

I agree that Microsoft has a marketing advantage. The Gears trailers are awesome, but then again they are targeting the Western market. Some of Sony's campaigns make me nauseous (most of them seem to come from Europe). And then they had that awesome "Ladies and Gentleman" commercial, just to fire the people that made it.

He brings up a few good points, but I wish he could see the other side of his argument more clearly.

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iHEARTboobs - 435 days 15 hours ago

1.2 - Cenobia

Very true. A lot of what you said is what I was thinking. Was a little bias but there was some good points. Anyhow, he's happy with his 360 and i'm happy with my PS3. We all win.

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OnslaughtX - 435 days 15 hours ago

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Well said Cenobia, I agree. The opinion piece was well written, and I wish more gamers could discuss things in such ways, even with their own preferences and slight bias. I find it somewhat silly that he almost makes fun of Sony pushing LBP over Resistance 2, when LBP is coming out before R2.

Also, the trend of showing games TOO EARLY is one that the entire industry is guilty of. Capcom with RE5, Konami with MGS4... MS is guilt of it just as much as Sony. Alan Wake? Splinter Cell from Ubisoft? I think the industry itself needs to start holding their press releases until the game is closer to launch personally.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 435 days 14 hours ago

1.4 - @cenobia

You made some good points, but in some ways you answered your own question. Sony has a history of showing off early concept work that is expected to be released far far into the future. Problem with this is that there are a lot of promises that get's made and they get old when they constantly get delayed and expectations aren't met. See what happened to Home.... MS is guilty of this as well, but they don't show stuff that aren't ready sans Too Human.

Development issues are on both sides of the coin, it's just that PS3's limitations are many more and more costly due to the wierd architecture choice that isn't necessarily best for game development.

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Some_One_Plays - 435 days 14 hours ago

1.5 - Cenobia

I agree with you as well he brings up good points for the XBOX 360, but fails to bring up advantages of the PlayStation 3. When a person does this they're bias because they have to twist / not mention everything to look good.

The thing with the PlayStation 3 best / worst of the console would be the architecture. At first it maybe difficult, but in the end will be the future of running games better.

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Cenobia - 435 days 12 hours ago

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Yeah, I definitley agree that there is such a thing as to early when releasing gaming info. Home is definitley a good example of that. I do hate seeing something awesome just to be made to wait for a year or more. It does feel like Sony is guilty of this pretty often, but we can understand why since they had trouble with games at launch. It can even be pretty devastating if they cancel one of those early announced titles (like Eight Days or the Getaway).

I just think it was a bad argument for the author to make at this point in time. We can see a large part of the future Sony has laid out for us, but MS' is largely shrouded in mystery right now. I think that gives an advantage to Sony rather than Microsoft.

Of course, there are likely a number of titles in the works for both consoles that no one knows anything about. And I'd kill for Team ICO information regardless of how far away it is.

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Thugbot187 - 435 days 12 hours ago

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Very good read. I like the last point the most. Why blindly lock yourself into one console.

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Man_of_the_year - 435 days 9 hours ago

1.8 - @Some_One_Plays

Uhh.. he clearly states that there was an article where someone wrote that states the advantages about the PS3...so he is doing one about the 360...why would he mention positive points about the PS3 when the whole reason is because he is pointing out the advantages about the 360...your post was completely ignorant. Use your head or atleast read the articles better.

THIS IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES THAT THE 360 HAS - - - OFCOURSE IT'S GOING TO BE BIAS. Wow you Sony fanboys just never let up...even with an article entitled "The New Advantages of the Xbox 360" you guys still think the writer should still point out the PS3's advantages...

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Some_One_Plays - 435 days 7 hours ago

1.9 - Man_of_the_year

lol, yes it's a contradicting article, but I grantee if I made one and posted on N4G no one could contradict me. I'm sure of it and because the article states "Advantages of the XBOX 360" it doesn't mean it's going to be bias. Being bias means that you twist what is actually work. If this happens than it isn't actually true meaning it isn't really an advantage.

Generally when something is bias it means it isn’t actually true. Example, a title that states “A Man Gives Birth” eventually you find out other things. The man was actually born a woman and took hormone pills to change her look. In conclusion the title is false because the “man” is actually a woman. This wasn’t really an example of bias, but when will come out of something bias. A true example would be, all video games cause violence in kids or all black people are gangsters and will kill if provoked.

The title was a hook to get you to read, but in the end everything can be contradicted easily. Documentaries are also bias as well because it’s an opinion with little facts. In simple terms I'm saying this person didn't articulate himself, Michael A, when writing this article. Articulation goes beyond just spelling correctly, but validating those opinions with solid facts.

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Man_of_the_year - 434 days 21 hours ago

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The point i was making is why would he mention advantages about the PS3 if the article is clearly about the 360. You were asking "fails to bring up advantages of the PlayStation 3." Well DUH!!! He didn't fail to bring up the advantages of the PS3..it just had nothing to do with the article as it was about the advantages of the 360 not the PS3.

To even say that he fails to bring up the advantages of the PS3 in an article about the the advantages of the 360 is just conmpletely ignorant on such a HUGE scale.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 434 days 16 hours ago

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I must agree with man_of_the_year here. If you are writing a piece of opinion supporting the advantages of 360, why the heck are you talking about advantages of PS3?

If you don't understand that, you should either stay in school or go back to school. It is English 101....

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blackboyunltd - 435 days 17 hours ago

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wow actually some good points

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The Makr - 434 days 20 hours ago

2.1 - Good point on why Sony hypes KZ2 over Resistence 2 when...

R2 is coming out sooner. That make no sense to me either. Sony is repeatedly caught hyping stuff a year too early. I'm already sick of Home and LBP and they are not even out yet.

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Ex The God - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Interesting article.

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running rampid - 435 days 16 hours ago

4 - yup

good read. makes valid points.

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ASSASSYN 36o - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Worthy article.

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iMarcus - 435 days 16 hours ago

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interesting and well written article

nice pictures near the close as well aha

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Emmo - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Great read and many valid points.

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DISCIPLE111 - 435 days 16 hours ago

8 - With every one above

I agree. its good 2 b a gamer no matter wut console right? PEACE

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Dmitry Orlov - 435 days 15 hours ago

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LOL the poster above got disagrees?
GOGOGOGO N4G!!!!1oneoneleven

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OnslaughtX - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Well written... but what's wrong with pushing LBP? It's a big title. Just because its not a bloody shooter it should be ignored? Could mean great things for future gaming.

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LightningPS3 - 435 days 16 hours ago

10 - another worthless rant

The only thing dictating success or failure between the 360 and PS3 is the prices.

How many times do I have to point out the obvious.

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running rampid - 435 days 16 hours ago

10.1 - @Lightning

you really are a weird enigma. i just can't figure you out lol. one minute you're a 360 fanboy and next your a ps3 fanboy?

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Fox01 - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Lightning is Silogon. he's not a Fanboy, he just speaks his mind and doesn't really give a phuck what other think...

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TrooGamer - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Sony are gonna live or die with the decision for no price cut. Good luck to em.

2009 is Sony last chance..ALL big hitters out. If you can get mass market with those games then theres no chance.

I have a PS3 so its not a fanboy rant.

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OnslaughtX - 435 days 16 hours ago

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He speaks his mind and REALLY hates the PS3 price.

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rev20 - 435 days 15 hours ago

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How many times do you have to point out

SONY have to say they are not cutting the price of the ps3 otherwise people would stop buying it as they know a price cut is coming just because they say they arent at the minute doesnt mean in four weeks down the line they wont.

Then again they may not drop the price at all but at least use some common sense people plz.

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TrooGamer - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Good read but marred by litlle fanboy digs. No need for them really

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Rice - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Wow so far there are hardly any fanboy comments.. Gj guys bubbles to all.

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iHEARTboobs - 435 days 15 hours ago

12.2 - yeah

the biggest fanboy comment has been from the author.

"Xbox 360 weathered the storm called Metal Gear Solid 4 (best movie ever released on a console by the way)"

That "movie's" GOTY so far.

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Kratos215 - 435 days 16 hours ago

13 - Good but flawed

A couple things. He said RaC:TOD underperformed but since when has selling more than a million copies mean the game underperformed. and The thing about LBP was wrong on so many levels. And lastly about the GOTY comment was flawed in the fact that he making it seem like only the 360 can play those games.

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Lord Vader - 435 days 16 hours ago

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"Personally, I prefer the Xbox 360 right now. That doesn’t mean I am against other systems. In fact, the people really enjoying this generation of gaming are those who own more than one system. To pledge your loyalty to own system and one company is foolish. Why do it? Preferring a system is one thing. Blindly worshiping and loving a system is just pathetic."

Could not AGREE more. Excellent article.

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LikAChicken - 435 days 15 hours ago

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definitely, love enjoying all three. but next generation I actually just want one system though. this gaming hobby thing really does suck alot of money to manage

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lowcarb - 435 days 15 hours ago

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Good read and oh so true.PS3 has LBP while we have XNA which can be used to make an actual game. Heck we could make LBP with XNA toolset or any game for that matter.

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TrooGamer - 435 days 15 hours ago

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XNA cannot be marketed to sell 360 in my opinion LBP can sell the PS3

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LikAChicken - 435 days 15 hours ago

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XNA is a cool feature and I really want to see what people create with it, but do you really think a LBP look alike is going to be made? Do you know what it takes to develop things like that? Are you going to make it? I believe you are a respectable person because in another article you didn't mean to offend me or something and thats cool. But come on man, you really need to stop with the narrow minded behavior. You act like your getting paid to talk as if XBox360 is the onestop shop for ALL gaming.

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lowcarb - 435 days 14 hours ago

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He11 nah I'm not gonna make it but my point is it can be done. Also you guy's need to lighten up a little bit and not take things so serious. This is news gamers for crying out loud so let's just have fun and respect everybody's comment's regardless of there rambling. Also just so you guys know I once caught a guy stealing a PS3 from a neighbor. I ended up tackling him and had to use the PS3 as a lethal weapon which actually saved my life. You see me and the PS3 have a bond and just because I hate it's games doesn't mean I hate the PS3.

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kingme71 - 435 days 15 hours ago

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Forget the article, tell me more about that first girl playing XBox Live in her underwear.

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lowcarb - 435 days 13 hours ago

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Yeah that's definitely one sexy photo.

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pogibaldy - 435 days 15 hours ago

17 - I feel Validated....

by this article because I own all 3 systems; PS3, 360, and Wii. Currently I play the 360 and PS3 about the same amount. They both have their own respective strengths and weaknesses, but together they freakin' rock!

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GiantEnemyCrab - 435 days 15 hours ago

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WOW!! Bravo to the author of this article! Good read.

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DA_SHREDDER - 435 days 15 hours ago

19 - The guy who wrote this article is an idiot.

First he talks about the specs because he thinks hes so computer savy. He says they are about the same or whatever,, My question is, why do my ps3 games look better then anything on my 360?

Then he talks about how live is just so much better,,, and then disses the ps3 fw updates,, and says how we get updates to fix updates. I dont know what hes talking about. First off, Ive never had any problems with any updates since launch, secondly,, Im still waiting to hear why live is better. Im sorry but avatars are just as useless as Mii's and Home is a ps3 application, not a OS. What is this guy even talking about?

Then he goes on to say that Sonys games sell better on the 360. Well lets see,, The 360 had a 10 million lead at the begin of last year,, now its down to 5 mil. I know thats alot of people but the ps3 gained alot of ground. You dont have to have common sense to understand the only reason why 360 has the lead is because it came out a year later. Doesn't make them better, if anything it hurt the company 1 billion in broken rushed out 360's that red ringed.

And then last, but not least , he says hes looking forward to Resistance and its not getting the hype it deserves and then turns around to smash LBP. You see, the differance between the two systems is that the ps3 actually has other exclusive games that aren't shooters. I understand thats the only genre that sells well on the 360, but that doesn't mean us PS3 users have to put up with a genre thats getting old too fast. Don't get me wrong. I love COD4, but its getting to the point where I just get darn right depressed from shooting people all day. There is nothing wrong with having fun that isnt in the violence genre.

Pretty much what Im trying to say is that every point this guy made is a failure. I tried to see his side, but I came to the conclusion he doesn't have a ps3, and has never seen a game run on one. He called metal gear a movie,,, I dont think that every reviewer gave it a 10/10 or A+ because it was fun to watch. Sure there were alot of cut scenes, but the action was top notch as well. It was actually fun,,, I wish I could say that about 90% of the 360's games on the system but I can't.

Honestly,, the only good game on the system are multiplats. The only exclusive worth having on the system is Fable 2 and its not even out yet. Everything else is just over hyped bullcrap. I have a 360 and don't own any games on it cause they all play as good if not better on my ps3. Gears and Halo was a waste of my life. Period.

Edit. Oh yeah, I forgot one thing,, sorry this is taking forever but this is serious. The author of this article mentioned that the 360 has better demos and betas then the ps3. Hmm, thats funny. I haven't seen anything worth downloading on my 360 since Too Human. Even today, I looked and guess what? There is nothing new in the store. Sure the 360 is getting a beta for COD5, but its on the pc too so you cant count that as exclusive. Wanna know what exclusive betas are? Im in the LBP, Socom, and Home betas right now. I will soon be in the Resistance and Killzone 2 betas. This article was a wasted of everyones time. I think it might have made me more stupid because everything he was saying had no logic.

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rev20 - 435 days 15 hours ago

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Live is better then PSN there is no arguement there well for functionality it is. Online gaming they are equal in performance if not a slight edge for the ps3 due to the more frequent use of dedicated servers in games such as warhawk the difference however is pretty damn small and the extras you get with live like cross game chat and invites make up for it.

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starbuck - 435 days 15 hours ago

19.2 - Did I read this right ?

"You see, the differance between the two systems is that the ps3 actually has other exclusive games that aren't shooters."

Are you saying that the 360 only has FPS's for its exclusives.
Not flamming just wanted to know as the 36o is now known as the RPG console of this gen so far.

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LevDog - 435 days 14 hours ago

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Funny thing about Live.. It only offers 3 extra things that PSN doesnt have.. Cross game invites (which doesnt secure your a spot in the other game).. Cross game chat.. EH ok.. Voice Messages.. Eh.. all for 60 extra Bucks? Not worth it.. PSN offers 6 person video chat for free.. Has dedicated servers.. Free Themes..

XBL was superior about a year ago.. Not anymore

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The Stuttttterer - 435 days 16 hours ago

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Heater for this C Cold Cri i i istmas

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Internet Trolling Expert - 435 days 16 hours ago

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A-g-g-g-greed

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iMarcus - 435 days 16 hours ago

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ahahha have fun with LBP

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Pain - 435 days 11 hours ago

2.2 - "ahahha have fun with LBP"

Have fun being Jealous.

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Internet Trolling Expert - 435 days 16 hours ago

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There are no advantages in a failure

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iMarcus - 435 days 16 hours ago

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I've never had an RROD mate, doesn't affect me :)

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B-Rein - 435 days 15 hours ago

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lol it affects all owners, i was like that before hahahha but i ended with rrod twice this is my 3rd xbox

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TheDynamo - 435 days 16 hours ago

5 - THAT COULD BE THE BEST PRO-360 ARTICLE EVER WRITTEN ON N4G.

That was impressive. I don't even know if there's anything else for anyone to say. He backed it up with facts, opinion, and intelligence all rolled into one.

Nicely written.

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JOLLY1 - 435 days 14 hours ago

5.1 - Nice Avatar

believe it or not, I'm walking on air.

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LevDog - 435 days 16 hours ago

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HAHA this article was a joke.. Of course Multis that were deved on the 360 are better FOR THE 360.. Ported games always suck.. DEV support.. Ok so MS has what 4 in house DEVS.. I WOULD hope those 4 would Support their games.. IDIOT..Sony has 20+ inhouse devs.. OWNED.. Dashboard updates.. From what I read in those articles 90% of 360 fans thinks its ugly and hopes its optional.. FAIL again..Games. Ok there are games.. BUT ARE 2 to 3 years old.. GEARS1 and HALO3.. PLEASE.. Anything this year.. TOO HUMAN(HAHAHA).. Please.. PS3 has already shown its more powerful.. Gears 1 is thier best looking game.. Once again came out 2 years ago.. Gears 2 looks the same.. Also the PS3 firmware problems for people the percent is under 1% of people have the problem.. Another fail.. You pay for online (WOW CROSSGAME INVITES AND PRIVATE CHAT) all for 50 bucks a year.. RIP OFF Year isnt over.. So its hard to say if its PS3 year.. But MGS4 LBP R2 SOCOM MOTOSTORM could change that easily... In the PS3 article there was a reliability section.. HMMM NONE IN THE 360s.. WONDER WHY

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Agent002 - 435 days 16 hours ago

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You can toast marshmellows on it and fry eggs on the inside.
Oh, and the RROD still exists.

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Stretch32 - 435 days 15 hours ago

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SMH.
Its funny how people won’t read and try to understand where dude is coming from. Everyone is so bent on the idea that the system they have is the greatest that they can’t step back and acknowledge the good in another system. I am a former Playstation fan. I owned the 1st and 2nd Playstation but it wasn’t enough for me. When Xbox came out i tried it and found it a lot more enjoyable. PS3 has some great attributes and i’m not knocking it. RIGHT NOW microsoft is doin their thing and i’m saying that because they are following through with their promises. How much longer are you PS3 fans willing to wait for “Home” to drop? Again its my opinion as a former Playsation owner, that i find xbox 360 way more satisfying than PS3 right now, not to mention most of the original Playstation games are now on or coming to Xbox 360(Tekken, Resident Evil, GTA, ect…). Xbox also has the largest online gaming community. Yeah i pay $60(US) for a year but i think its worth it. PS3 is free and i commend them for that but their network isn’t as big. So i think everyone should just step back and give props where props are due.

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LevDog - 435 days 15 hours ago

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Do you realize there is an article that just came out today in fact.. That shows what your paying for in XBL.. It only has 3 things Free PSN doesnt.. Cross game invites.. Cross game chat and Voice Messeges...60 bucks a year doesnt seem worth those 3 extra things.. While I respect your comment.. Your act like HOME is the only thing PS3 fans are waiting for.. What about LBP? Resistance 2? SOCOM? KZ2? MOTOSTORM? If 360 is more satisfying for you great.. You also forget that Some 360 exclusives are coming to PS3.. BioShock Star Ocean Left for Dead... Its pretty much equal on both sides.. I can also watch 1080p HD movies, video chat with up to 6 people (Free) I have rechargable controllers.. Blu tooth headsets, Keyboards.. My Ps3 themes are free.. Ps3 has the most Exclusives this year.. PS3 is more satisfying for me.. Ill give props to 360.. Its 2 year old game Gears.. Is a good game..

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Blu Ray3 - 435 days 9 hours ago

10 - RROD aside,

360 is still the winner this gen in my book.

I'm sure it's only temporary,until GOW3,ICO team delivers,etc.

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silverchode - 435 days 7 hours ago

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actually the wii is winning the gen.

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Blu Ray3 - 434 days 6 hours ago

11 - I don't consider WII next gen silver.

But it's O.K. if you do.

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