Eurogamer: Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off: Round 14

RoidRage - 439 days 19 hours ago

People need to just accept that the 360 is capable of slightly better graphics.

I see ps3 fanboys every were using the "well lets compare exclusives". Pretty convient that a 360 version of these ps3 exclusives will not ever exist, don't you think? I wonder what excuse ps3 fanboys would pull out of their ass if a 360 version of these ps3 exclusives were made. How the hell are you supposed to accurately compare two games running on two different engines, using different development techniques, with completely different game assets? You can't, and any normal person knows this.

What we have seen time and time again, is the ps3 being edged out on games that are comparable. Even the last years 360 version of Bioshock is visually superior to this years ps3's version according to Sony's own official ps3 publication PSM3. The question is how many more times is the 360 going to have to kick the ps3's ass before people are going to accept that the ps3 hype train that they have been riding is just that, hype.

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Blip Blip - 439 days 19 hours ago

Any PS3 fanboy to post videos of PS3 exclusives that look better than the 360 videos below.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

http://www.gametrailers.com...

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juuken - 439 days 19 hours ago

Blip...this is a video that's what...two years old?

Any PS3 game (MGS4, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue) would make this game look bland right now.

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Blip Blip - 439 days 19 hours ago

Post some vids of these "uber" PS3 exclusives if you are so sure of their quality.

How does a game being 2 years old make it's graphics less impressive? If anything it makes the PS3 look worse, because a 2 year old 360 multi-plat looks better than anything in the PS3's library, including the PS3 version of the same game.

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Fishy Fingers - 439 days 18 hours ago

Go to GameTrailers > Search Killzone 2 > Pick a video.

Done :)

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Jamie Foxx - 439 days 18 hours ago

poor games but if fanboys want to gloat over those games,your really reaching

If you do need to pointlesly thump your chest like you got something to prove its the console EXCLUSIVES where it needs to be done...LBP,gears of war,resistance2,killzone,mgs4 then thump your chest but please...kungfu panda,mercenaries2,facebreaker ,hulk etc....... LMFAO+2

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ericnellie - 439 days 18 hours ago

Are we still having these discussions? LOL!
Actually, I sort of like them!

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Lumbo - 439 days 18 hours ago

easy, Blib:

http://www.gametrailers.com...

but of course you in your fanboy deluded world won't accept it that this game looks about 10 times as good as the overly steril SC and the animations blow SC directly to old gen suffering. The stiff robot like animation sequences simply can not compare to procedural animation blending.

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nieto - 439 days 17 hours ago

http://www.gametrailers.com... <---Resistance 2
http://www.gametrailers.com... <---Uncharted Drake's Fortune
http://www.gametrailers.com... <---Killzone 2
http://www.gametrailers.com... <---Metal Gear Solid 4
http://www.gametrailers.com... <---Ratchet & Clank: ToD

what more proof do you want?

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Kigmal - 439 days 17 hours ago

I just want to go on a record and say that owning both a PS3 and an Xbox 360 is the best thing ever. If everyone owned both, I don't think there would be no fanboys. You don't miss out on anything I tell you, ANYTHING!

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thewhoopimen - 439 days 16 hours ago

The gametrailers HD comparison of Mercs2 showed better textures on the ps3 as well as slightly more framerate hitch on the 360. Is it me or does Richard have an increasingly obvious platform bias?

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ianp622 - 439 days 16 hours ago

"How the hell are you supposed to accurately compare two systems running on two different architectures, using different development techniques, with completely different strengths? You can't, and any normal person knows this."

Fixed.

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Xelai - 439 days 15 hours ago

The comparison is valid, not losing the focus of comparing multiplatform games and not exclusives.

Multiplatform development is easier on the 360 and usually gets better results, if you want really good results on the PS3 get ready for being an exclusive, have a long development time, have a massive team, and have loads of cash, if not your results will be lackluster, with resources,obviously, the PS3 shines.

But this is multiplatform development, optimised for getting the best results with adjusted budgets, teams and resources, and in that aspect it is a fair comparison.

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Blip Blip - 439 days 15 hours ago

You just proved two things.
1 -360 games look better than PS3 games
and
2 -PS3 fanboys are liars

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RoidRage - 439 days 5 hours ago

You don't have to be fanboy to see that the game you posted is in no way better graphically than what Blip Blip posted. It would take a fanboy to say that it is. I f**king horse laughed when I watched your video after watching Blip Blip's.

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Man_of_the_year - 439 days 4 hours ago

Oh please dont tell me the link he provided leads to uncharted...if it is i will never understand why PS3 fanboys always bull the uncharted card...it wasnt even on the radar for any awards for graphics or any other category...if it was so good then tell me why not a single nomination was for the game graphically wise huh..i guess MS bought the whole judging panel right...

You PS fanboys are making me and other PS3 owners look bad every time you pull the uncharted has the best graphics on any console card...please stop embarrassing me and yourself.

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Aquanox - 439 days 16 hours ago

According to the Article, the Best versions are:

Soul Calibur: Xbox 360 Reason: Higher Res, Better Lightning.
Kung Fu Panda: Xbox 360 Reason: 60FPS versus 30FPS on PS3.
Mercenaries 2: Xbox 360 Reson: Depth Field and Superior Refresh Rate.
Guitar Hero Aerosmith: Xbox 360 Reason: Higher Res, Better Refresh Rate
Beijing: Xbox 360 - Reason: Many, i.e. Higher Rest, AA (absent of PS3)
Hulk: PS3 - Reason: Better image Overall due to post processing.
Face Breaker: Xbox 360 Reason: No many, just better AA (4XAA), subtle effects. Better upscaling
Madden, NHL and Tigerwoods: Tie

Result:

Xbox 360 6 - PS3 1
Tie 3

Winner Xbox 360

P.S. Loading times aren't considered since the Xbox 360 will soon be able to install ANY game.

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Blip Blip - 439 days 19 hours ago

Yeah, my eyes are lieing. It's all just a big conspiracy against the PS3.

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PimpHandStrong - 439 days 19 hours ago

are your eyes seeing what i see? I have a 1080p TV with a PS3

is that what your eyes are seeing? Or are you talking about the video you get to see online that someone else had control over

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juuken - 439 days 19 hours ago

They've been doing it for a while because I have an account there. They take a bunch of mediocre games (save Soul Caliber IV)and compare them against the PS3 version.

It has nothing to do with conspiracy. It's just something I've observed over there. And I wouldn't be surprised with the disagrees because apparently 360 fans love these types of unfair comparisons.

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Man_of_the_year - 439 days 18 hours ago

well i am watching it on my 46 inch samsung in 1080p on my PS3 and even i can say the 360 looks better...and sorry Juuken but i disagree that eurogamer is tampering with anything to make the games graphics look worse than the 360 - to me making that statement is just plain ignorance but if you feel that eurogamer is the site for 360 fanboys than i guess N4G is the counter balance for Sony Fanboys - the universe once again balances itself out

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power of Green - 439 days 17 hours ago

I see all the pics on the Series 6.

360 pre-launch HD testing was done on Sammy's, the 360 hardware is talored to samsung LCD tech. The contrast ratio, color and the dynamic mode allows you to see everything. Samsung the official HDTV of the NFL and the Xbox 360(showing 360 on Samsung LCD sku's is not just about MSFT's and Samsung's marketing partnership).

"It strikes me as a real shame that the 720p downscale has been included at all in the 360 code, when that extra resolution could have been used for all manner of better things - for example, an improved image at 1080p, better picture quality on 1360x768 LCDs and plasmas or a cracking picture on the forthcoming 1440x900 mode coming to the next dash update. Instead, all that effort seems to have been pretty much wasted."

^^ PS3

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Xelai - 439 days 15 hours ago

It is so tiresome when we have to constantly read about conspiracy theories against the PS3, all media is bought by Microsoft against poor Sony, that has no money and no power. That is incapable of pushing its own format or muscle its almost omnipresence into retailers worldwide, the Sony brand is in great peril!

One site is awesome one day when they bash Microsoft, and the next they are soldouts to the evil empire, Gameplayer AU anyone?

It is just incredible the amount of conpiranoia people believe, Mulder would be proud.

Eurogamer is one of the most respectable, professional and independent websites out there. Bashing them is not going to change the facts.

Nevertheless it must be sad to begin to hate almost all media believing there is a global conspiracy against Sony, in the end you got almost no sites to go and you become dependant of biased bloggers for your information, and obviously n4g, the ultimate haven for PS3 lovers.

PD Just go to Google, type n4g with no intro, wait a bit and see how the term "n4g ps3" is above even "n4g com", how can it be? :-)

Now lets the hate and disagrees roll.

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Dareaver1 - 439 days 15 hours ago

how true and well said. Bubbles for you sir. Bubbles for you...

It's a shame, that when presented with facts, you still here people crying foul. The most logical thing would be to prove the facts to be wrong. But that's impossible to do, since EG does such extensive comparison tests that all you can do is appreciate the non-biased factual information that trickles down. The truth is still the truth no matter how hard some don't want to believe it.

Sad really.....

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TeeJay - 439 days 15 hours ago

Excellent post, alot of simple truths.

However, not trying to sound paranoid, but I do think Sony has paid viral marketers working this site. Some peoples supposed "loyal" stupidity is to an extreme that it can't be real. Then you have all of these "amateur" websites and blogs spreading complete bullsh** that only an unsupecting casual would take as truth. After seeing korean gold farming videos, I don't think it's a farfetched idea that there is a small building somewhere, with a group of people who come to work everyday by logging onto N4G to spread Sony propaganda.

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Xelai - 439 days 14 hours ago

Thanks.

By the way it is a known fact that developers and manufacturers pay people to comment in internet forums.

Sony was once caught red handed with one supposedly gamer blog but in reality the domain belonged to a publicity agency at the employ of Sony.

But yeah, is poor Sony who receives all the unmerited hate. ;-)

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juuken - 439 days 13 hours ago

Wow...just wow.
Look at the disagrees fly!
Whatever you guys say, whatever you say.

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zypher - 439 days 13 hours ago

http://www.gametrailers.com...

as you can see, the only thing eurogamer was right about was screen tearing on the PS3 version. it's convenient how the 360 wins due to PS3's screen tearing and some supposed lack of depth blur, but they say nothing about how the 360 version has sub-par framerate (especially at the beginning, where the game pauses two or three times) and horrible textures (the mountain at the end).

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Dareaver1 - 439 days 13 hours ago

"as you can see, the only thing eurogamer was right about was screen tearing on the PS3 version. it's convenient how the 360 wins due to PS3's screen tearing and some supposed lack of depth blur, but they say nothing about how the 360 version has sub-par framerate (especially at the beginning, where the game pauses two or three times) and horrible textures (the mountain at the end)." <---Zypher

"Visually, the advantages of the Xbox 360 version are two-fold: there's the inclusion of a depth of field effect (taking the form of a subtle blur the further 'into' the screen you go) along with an improved refresh rate. As both games target 30fps, and achieve it with no v-lock, that translates into an additional amount of screen tear on the PS3 game." <---EG

I would say that those are clear advantages to the 360 version, and logically a win is a win. The 360 version is pumping out more complex visuals. How can you argue that...?

As far as the that framerate issue is concerned, it might be inconsistent. Maybe on EG's comparison they did not experience that stutter. That is a possibility. Not every game play is going to end up the same.

But what i don't get is why are you trying to disprove EG's comparison, by using another websites comparison. That makes no sense. They don't even claim to use the same advanced screen capturing hardware. Find fault in the source. The source is EG, find the fault in that. You can't look for inconsistencies by increasing your search to other websites that use different capturing procedures.

Normally when they comment on framerate issues, it's usually a constant problem. a frame hiccup here or there is not a real problem, because it doesn't happen often to affect gameplay. Know what i'm saying.

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zypher - 439 days 9 hours ago

in other words, eurogamer's views are just as arbitrary and partial as anyone elses, including (possibly) gametrailer's.

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caffman - 439 days 19 hours ago

that must be new because while I've spent plenty of time on oblivion, I've never heard of oblivan. Or is it a droid showing that while they can talk all day long, when it comes to knowing jack about games they are sadly lacking

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edhe - 438 days 15 hours ago

Oblivion came out a year later on the ps3 than the 360 with an improved texture filter. They also had to copy the game onto the disc twice to keep the load times down.

As for doc4 & burnout paradise, i've never seen anything proving either look better on the ps3, especially when you can flick the 1080p switch on the 360 and enjoy that also.

As for gta4? The comment about that 'looking better' was someone's opinion, it was proven, again by eurogamer, that it ran at a lower resolution and framerate than the 360.

ps3's hypetrain needs to die sometime, it just isn't what it set out to be, whilst Sony doted on their next model MS flew in and stole the core market whilst Nintendo swiped the rest.

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Man_of_the_year - 439 days 18 hours ago

i finished MGS4 in 18 hours or 2 days. 9 hours of playing, 4.5 hours of watching great action cut scenes and 4.5 hours of trying to stay awake from all the boring drawn out dialog. i too would have given it an 8/10...i mean come on, i finished the game in 9 hours...

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snakeater3 - 439 days 17 hours ago

mgs4 was not made with ppl like you in mind (mindless dumb fcks) but with the fans in mind. thats why you dont give a flying rats a$$ about the story ...but guess what? i enjoyed all the blabbing coz it gave insight into what is argued to be the greatest game story ever told. nuff said

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Man_of_the_year - 439 days 17 hours ago

LOL nice language - my you get angry pretty fast if someone has a different oppinion than yours - and i think you hit the nail on the head that the game is designed for a particular following - so basically you just validated my point that the game is not for everyone but only a particular crowd in the gaming demographics...so then a persons oppinion of it being 8/10 is validated for having long boring drawn out dialog that spans the time of 2 hollywood movies was suited for the person doing the review...

so since you just solidified my response with your ignorance i guess using your limited vocabulary...you are the (mindless dumb fcks)u were talking about

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Firstkn1ghT - 439 days 14 hours ago

Man of the Year: 1
Snakeater3: 0

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ukilnme - 439 days 12 hours ago

@ Man_of_the_year

LMAO. That was classic.

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kevin1112 - 438 days 15 hours ago

and all day long i see xbox fanboys doing the same thing, and this is going on 2 years now lol.

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militant07 - 439 days 17 hours ago

Gears of War, Halo 3, Mass Effect what ps3 got ?? only MGS4 if you count uncharted,ratchert..etc then there is +15 games on 360 AAA

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cemelc - 439 days 16 hours ago

I got Mass Effect and GeoW in my PC, halo 3 (on its way)

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power of Black - 439 days 8 hours ago

Same old games. Do you xbots have any other games besides GeoW, Halo3 and Mass Effect?

Wait a minute...

Do you even have a 2009 line-up?

Oh dear...

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PirateThom - 439 days 13 hours ago

Right... so why doesn't the 360 have games that match, or indeed, exceed them?

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power of Black - 439 days 8 hours ago

Because in reality, the 360 cannot deliver those type of games.

Ahh, what a great place the xbot's dreamworld is.

xD xD

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air1 - 439 days 15 hours ago

thanks for the round-up now to see the sony fanatics spin it.

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Freezingduck - 439 days 11 hours ago

RROD

owned.

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air1 - 439 days 15 hours ago

thats what you sony fanatics always say even with the proof in your face saying you are wrong. matter a fact you fanatics say it so much that you believe your own lie..

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Dareaver1 - 439 days 12 hours ago

" the game is running internally with a whopping great 40 per cent resolution increase on the Microsoft console, with a native framebuffer of 1365x960 versus the standard 1280x720 on the PlayStation 3. The Xbox 360 version also has an extra layer of lighting effects completely absent on the PS3 game - though the effect is rather subtle. They only manifest in the form of a touch of bloom and a good old fashioned lens flare mostly apparent on the pre-fight animations.

Right after rendering Xbox's higher resolution image, Namco's coders then scale it back down again to 720p!

It strikes me as a real shame that the 720p downscale has been included at all in the 360 code, when that extra resolution could have been used for all manner of better things - for example, an improved image at 1080p, better picture quality on 1360x768 LCDs and plasmas or a cracking picture on the forthcoming 1440x900 mode coming to the next dash update." <---EG

This EG commentator said it best...." I've heard (and this is a pure rumour that SC IV was going to run at 1080 on the 360 (hence the internal upscaling) but Sony threw such a hissy fit because there wasn't "platform parity" and threatened to withdraw their approval that Namco had to bodge the 360 version back."

Even though the comment is based on a rumor, it sounds very logical.

So i think that kind of cancels out your argument.

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Teh Cell - 439 days 8 hours ago

What Infinity Ward game is better on the BS3???

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pwnsause - 439 days 11 hours ago

and they are all sh*tty games, just like your movies. LOLOLOLLOLOLOOLOLOLOL Irony at its finest.

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power of Black - 439 days 8 hours ago

While the 360 cooks a few eggs for me.

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