MS confirms GTA 4 DLC out in time for Xmas

HighDefinition - 466 days 17 hours ago

R* says 2009, MSFT says 2008.

I`ll believe R*

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Fishy Fingers - 466 days 17 hours ago

Yeah I know whats been said in the past, thats why I asked if R* had agreed to this. Does the article not mention that?

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Mitchell - 466 days 17 hours ago

They know Gears 2, Fable II, and Banjo Kazooie aren't enough to fend off Sony's amazing 1st-party titles and the many multi-platform games that are leading on PS3 (thus will perform better).

Sony had their time with GTA IV and they're moving onto better things while Microsoft is stuck behind it, milking it past a swollen breast.

It had better be damn epic DLC by this pathetic point.

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thor - 466 days 17 hours ago

"First of the..."? I thought there was only 1 big expansion. Looks like it'll be a short episode featuring the start of another story.

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beavis4play - 466 days 17 hours ago

this is MS saying it'll be out by christmas.(the same MS who said it would be out by autumn a month ago)and i guess RS hasn't heard the news cause they ain't saying anything.
other than that; nothing new here is said except that the dlc is "highly anticipated". with all the great NEW games coming out....who is highly anticipating this?

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Lifendz - 466 days 17 hours ago

50 mil for DLC that'll come out long after any one really cares save the GTA4 loyalist.

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GODofDOOMS - 466 days 17 hours ago

does anyone know what the DLC will be? i still havnt heared anything

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Exorgasm - 466 days 14 hours ago

Rockstar said 2009 in terms of their fiscal year so late November would be on track as the financial year starts next month.

As far as PS3 quickly becoming the lead platform I'd imagine the main reason would be that the PS3 is harder to develop for. The PS3 is a lot less straight forward than the 360 with having to run half of the graphic processing through the cell. There isn't as much of a struggle with the 360 so It doesn't need the extra attention the PS3 does even when developers are familiar with the machine.

The PS3 being lead doesn't necessarily mean the games will be better either. No matter what multi plats will almost always have better textures and a cleaner non film grain filtered appearance on the 360. Ps3 games will always be able to have more action and better effects due to having the cell on its side. They both have weaknesses but The PS3 is the weaker one graphically. I didn't spend way too much money on an hdtv to have my videogames looking smeared and grainy with dull textures.

Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves to come into 360 articles only to bash it and scream from the rooftops about how PS3 is better? Is it rewarding to go into 360 articles and talk about how little you care about this or how that is going to flop? Doesn't going out of your way to come in and read the article then comment on it make you saying you don't care seem a bit foolish?

I used to own only the PS3 and a wii but decided to buy a 360 off of a friend because he wanted to buy a Wii for himself. Once I started playing games on the 360 I couldn't believe how great the machine was compared to my PS3. I had spent over a year playing weaker versions of every multi-platform game out there and was just waiting for exclusives that took way too long to come out. After I got a 360 I immediately felt sorry for you guys because you're missing out on a lot. You're all waiting on the bench to finally get in the game and it's made you bitter. That's why you waste so much time talking trash.

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chasuk08 - 466 days 13 hours ago

Unless you've developed a game for the PS3 and 360 I dont think your in the position to start stating which one is better graphically than the other, and which has a more complex cell.

As it sounds to me your just writing things you've heard off your mates, or what you've read off a crappy website.

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Exorgasm - 466 days 13 hours ago

I don't need to be a developer to see with my own eyes how each console performs graphically. It also doesn't take any insider knowledge to understand basic math and realize that three cores is less than seven.

Think your argument through before you try making points next time maybe.

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chasuk08 - 466 days 13 hours ago

The amount of cores doesnt mean anything, there are other factors involved in getting the best graphics out of a game than just the number of cores. Maybe your thinking you know everything about the PS3 and 360s cell, but you probably know nothing.

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Exorgasm - 466 days 13 hours ago

For starters the 360 doesn't have a cell. Secondly I only brought the PS3s cell into it because it has to make up for the weaker GPU the PS3 has.
What factors beyond CPU and GPU processing hardware-wise are you talking about that have such a major role in how well a game looks and performs? It seems like you're just sitting there saying "you dont know what you're talking about." without actually knowing what you yourself are talking about.

I realize It's ultimately up to the developers to make the best use of the hardware and make the game look and play as good as possible but they're operating within hardware limitations.

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snakeater3 - 466 days 12 hours ago

ps3 graphically weaker? lol ...anything you say buddy ...anything which makes you feel better ...just dont tempt me and my friends churn out a whole bunch of games which the 360 would be in a state of exorgasm just to run

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Exorgasm - 466 days 12 hours ago

^^
The PS3 is weaker when it comes to graphics yes because it can't do textures at all. Even major exclusives have horrible textures. Every PS3 game looks like it has very fine cheesecloth over the in-game camera.

The games are beautiful though and the PS3 can do things that my 360 can't even imagine doing because it has more power and a much larger limit on game size. The draw distance is phenomenal for a console and The artistic style in PS3 exclusives is always fantastic but as I've said before what's the point of hd gaming when the picture is blurred and the textures are runny instead of crisp?

It isn't as if I don't play my PS3 for exclusives because I do and I love it but when it comes to multi-platform games it is the weaker of the two.

@below

I never said the cell had anything to do with the PS3 not being able to do textures. Textures sucking has to do with the filtering/smoothing alternative to AA most likely. I've played every PS3 exclusive but Lair so far and have yet to see proper textures and would love to finally see them on my ps3.

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chasuk08 - 466 days 12 hours ago

Im sorry but i know the 360 doesnt have a cell, i just thought you would have some common sense to realise what i meant. Obviously not. And im still baffled how you think blurry textures are a cause of a cell. Maybe its the fact that the game was optimised for 360. Wait until you see a game that was made for the PS3. EG. Mirrors edge. We'll see who has the blurry textures then.

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Mitchell - 466 days 6 hours ago

Uncharted is proof. Developers can layer textures with the cell and the PS3's processors, and they can thread and stream graphics from the cell, as well as installs. They just have to not be lazy.

More examples? R&CF: ToD, MGS4, LBP, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Resistance 2... I better have no disagrees here because the proof is only a few Gametrailers searches away.

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DG - 466 days 2 hours ago

Exorgasm I commend you for fighting off the fanboys this long. Ignore them and enjoy your 360/Wii & PS3. I dont care about all the crap you guys have been saying. My only gripe with the PS3 is the price and the fact that they dont include an HD cable and want 100 for the official one when you can get an aftermarket one for 5 off of ebay. But then again MS charges 150 for a 20GB hard drive so go figure.

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LastDance - 465 days 20 hours ago

"The PS3 is weaker when it comes to graphics yes because it can't do textures at all. Even major exclusives have horrible textures"

uncharted: drakes fortune

try harder

Edit: atleast fanboys are honest about being fanboys. Your in denial.

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Exorgasm - 465 days 15 hours ago

You guys are in denial. Uncharted didn't have great textures at all but the lighting, overall appearance of the game and the scale more than made up for it. MGS4 had horrible textures but I can't say it had any negative effect on the game and it's still the best game so far this gen IMO. As far as textures go look at the diamond plating on the floors at Shadow Moses or just about any object or surface in any of the areas in mgs4 and they're blurry.

You're mentioning really great games but they were grainy and had bad textures. Resistance 2 is looking about as crisp as I've seen a PS3 game though so hopefully it will change things.

I'm done replying to console fanatics who can't handle the truth.

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GameOn - 466 days 16 hours ago

I cant see anyone buying a 360 for this DLC. People would buy a 360 for GTA4 itself, not the DLC.

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sajj316 - 466 days 16 hours ago

I do agree with you. MS missed that window of 'sales opportunity' for GTA IV. Whatever the GTA IV DLC is ... it better be worth the price of admission!

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himdeel - 466 days 13 hours ago

...that there were people who bought the 360 for GTA4 and DLC. Half my good buddies(6) bought the 360 for DLC and the other half (about 7) got the PS3 version. All my pals have since traded in GTA4, I'm the only one with a copy left and mine is for PS3 :( So many games coming out and only one copy of GTA4 to trade in.

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Hagaf22 - 466 days 17 hours ago

game was very overhyped, it wasnt the worst game ever but i was completely let down with the amount of hype, i dont think the dlc will be a massive success, i think alot of people lost interest in this game months ago, but who knows maybe this will respark interest in the game which would be good for ms and r*, guess well have to wait and see.

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Jenzo - 466 days 16 hours ago

They are trying their best to downplay it because they are scared of how good it might be. Will probably see the same thing in articles surrounding Fallout 3 and it's exclusive 360 DLC. They will say the game is overrated no matter what.

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cherrypie - 466 days 16 hours ago

@jenzo

You win the thread. 100% correct. +Bubbles.

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Jenzo - 466 days 16 hours ago

+Bubbles back!

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Jenzo - 466 days 12 hours ago

"CViper - 6 days 16 hours ago
PM
Track
Ignore
5.1 -
only 2 flops left. Fable2/Gears2

And that will complete the 'OMG' lineup lol

Remember back in the day?

"oh Oh!!1 well the 360 has:

ALAN WAKE
SPLINTER CELL
HUXLEY
TOO HUMAN
INFINITE UNDISCOVERY
TALES OF VESPERIA
LOST ODYSSEY
VIVA PINATA
GEARS 2
FABLE 2
"

LOL its like a hit list."

Is that you? Trolling an Infinite Discovery review? Naaah! Can't be! ;)

Are you still doing the "Why do you say this when you do that"-routine? You are no better than me so just move along, buddy.

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Jenzo - 466 days 10 hours ago

How come you never call out the hordes of PS3 fanboys who completely flood some of the 360 articles? You can keep calling me out if it gives some kind of satisfaction that you don't get outside of the Internet. I don't mind.

I might not own a PS3 but one of my friends owns all three consoles so I get to play most of the games on it. It's funny cause I used to get hyped up as h3ll by reading what people said about the games on here. Like with Motorstorm or GT5:Prologue. I was expecting them to be mindblowing but then when I got to play them they were nothing special at all, just overhyped by fanboys. Only games that have impressed me this far on the PS3 are Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank.

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Jenzo - 465 days 23 hours ago

Damn. You carry a lot of supressed anger lol!

You just lost all your credibility, if you ever had some. You said it yourself: "Jenzo, the reason I don't call out ps3 fanboys is because you can't really be a fanboy in a Ps3 related story."

I have no time for the rest of your comment but I bet it's about me being a horrible person lol!

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VF34EJ25 - 466 days 16 hours ago

"$50 mil could have funded a couple of new IP's"

Amen, with that budget. They could have easily made a super "AAA" game that could trump Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 or at least be in the same league. Then they could have gloat about how their first party studio is pumping out another AAA game.

I would have loved it if that was the case, cause it would have been Gears 2, Fable 2, and New IP to look foward to. A true Triple threat and more, just like last year.

But nope, they're cramming down Banjo, Viva pinata, Scene it, Your in the movies, lips, and Wii-avatars down people's throats as if that's what 360 people truely want.

Come on, last year the 360 was the KING of hardcore gaming. Nobody could have argued that. Bioshock, Halo 3, Call of Duty 4 (multiplat but still sold amazingly well on 360), PGR4, Mass Effect, etc.

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cherrypie - 466 days 16 hours ago

You two throw around "$50 M" as if you *know* that is fact.

Its a *rumour*. Unconfirmed by anyone inside the two firms -- yet, here you are making conclusions based on it being accurate.

Popular mythology != reality. Honestly, do you people take yourselves serious? $50M *is* enough for a whole new title -- why on earth would you think that is accurate? Do you *really* think the people at MS are retarded? Has your irrational hate made you that ridiculous?

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VF34EJ25 - 466 days 13 hours ago

@Cherrypie

Do you know if it's NOT $50 mil? Do you have any facts that it ISNT?
But there seems to be a widespread known FACT that Microsoft forked over and buttload of money. $25 mil for each episode to be exact.

And here's some F'in cold hard proof:

"And as it relates to the deferred revenue chunk associated with the episodic content on X-Box 360, you can see that $25 MILLION of that moved into short-term deferred. Could you give us any sense of when that’s going to hit the P&L? Will we see $25 million at one time and then the second 25 or will it be a slow bleed?

Lainie Goldstein

The first 25 is for the first episodic content package that’s supposed to go out and that is in March of ’08. That’s why it moved into current because it’s in the next 12 months. The second 25 will be for the second episodic, the episode, and that will be later in fiscal ’08. "

That's taken out directly from Take-Two's Fiscal earnings report in 2007.

SOURCE:
http://seekingalpha.com/art...

Do some research before you start sprouting off nonsense.

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iHEARTboobs - 466 days 12 hours ago

@CherryPie, I think VF34EJ25 just owned you. I think you can call him master now.

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Nineball2112 - 466 days 11 hours ago

That was a serious slam-down on cherrypie by VF34EJ25! Nicely done, VF34EJ25.

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titntin - 466 days 11 hours ago

@cherrypie
As illustrated above - its a well known fact how much MS paid for this content and its been announced in financial reports and well discussed in the media. Whilst I agree you can't trust every piece of gossip you hear on the net, this has proven to be true.

I also don't understand you bandying around phrases like 'irrational hate'? Both my own comment and the reply were made by people who own and enjoy 360 consoles. Its not 'hate' to wish that MS had funded more IP's for the machine rather than pay this inflated sum for DLC, so the only comment that looks ridiculous, is your own, as its demonstrably false and seems to be invoking hatred where there is none?

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VampHuntD - 465 days 15 hours ago

Has your irrational love made you blind to facts? I just wanted to know since that smackdown had to hurt about as much as being smashed into a contortionist box.

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InfiniteUnfloppery - 466 days 16 hours ago

It's going to be another Microsoft Flop

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InfiniteUnfloppery - 466 days 16 hours ago

50 Million Dollars Down the Drain

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Pain - 466 days 12 hours ago

No really .

Santa Sack boy in XMASS dud's on a GIANt gamespot/EB Mall billboard or America's favorite Fox-news news reel killfest add on?

Oh thats right GTA4 is family fun....my bad....

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PopEmUp - 466 days 12 hours ago

it sure is roflmafao

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KazumaKiryu - 466 days 11 hours ago

Which means it guaranteed to flop.

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Draperc - 466 days 15 hours ago

Jealousy of WHAT exactly? If this exclusive dlc isn't something big like (this is just me thinking) 20 extra missions featuring characters from previous GTA games then MS really wasted 50 million dollars for nothing.

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juuken - 466 days 14 hours ago

Um...jealous of what?

Okay...you guys play your 50million DLC on an overhyped game. I'll be playing Resistance 2, Motorstorm: Pacific, Naruto: Ninja Storm, Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles, and other games I missed on the PS3.

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princejb134 - 466 days 10 hours ago

theres noting to be jealous about
this the most overhyped gta game ever, especially since it got so boring quickly
ms thought gta4 was gonna be great whent hey paid 50 million but ended up in dissapointment

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Kratos Spartan - 466 days 14 hours ago

I forced myself to beat that game. So boring. What a nightmare. I had this game for 2 weeks. I never wanted to get rid of a game so fast before.

Oh the Horror........NEXT!

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Kratos Spartan - 466 days 14 hours ago

That made no sense kid. Leave it to the little 12 year old xbox fanboy to talk about penis and d!ck. The young boys of America today are so obsessed with thinking gay, being gay, and then performing gay. Teabag, anyone?

Your insults are that of an amateur, very old and outdated. Come back when you turn 18 and have some notches on your belt.

-Kratos

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juuken - 466 days 14 hours ago

1. Stop being hypocritical. 360 fanboys do the same exact thing when it comes to PS3 articles. Don't complain about PS3 fans being in your articles when you do the same exact thing with your chest thumping, as if you own the best console on the planet and all other consoles are a piece of sh*t.

2. Buy games? Heh, funny you should say that because 360 fanbrats brag about *games* and yet I see the same ten or fifteen bots on this site trying to make the PS3 sound like it's a system with no games!And you wanna alk about NPD? The fact still remains that Sony outsold Microsoft worldwide so far and whooped their asses for five months compared to three. I wouldn't brag about a 10,000 lead if I were you. -__-

3. Why are we paying attention to it? Because Microsoft misled the public about the RROD. Because Microsoft tends to get away with things they shouldn't be getting away with. And if our system is a piece of crap, then why do most of you 360 fanbrats downplay our games?

It works both ways so stfu thank you!

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Killakap - 466 days 14 hours ago

you mad?..lol

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Kratos Spartan - 466 days 14 hours ago

It's so fun though. Seeing people get mad because someone is "trolling" And then laughing at them, which just makes them even more angry inside. Like this.....

Killakap <---- jajajajajajajaja

Although yours is a very calm anger, cleverly disguised as pity for these "trolls"

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Killakap - 466 days 13 hours ago

look how angry u guys are...pointing at my name and things of that nature. because the truth hurts. so u have to get off topic about something, cuz ur logic is thinner than the new macbook....well, im off to play some games, something u guys dont do

u mad?..lol

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Shadow Man - 466 days 13 hours ago

U got this droids back in to a corner and their only defense was RROD RROD. pathetic

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juuken - 466 days 13 hours ago

RROD
Scratched disks
The system eating disks
Disks melting in the system
Controllers disconnecting
Can't move your system once you put it in one position

There's more than just the RROD.

Fail.

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BUKKAKALYPSE - 466 days 12 hours ago

^^ that laughable post just shows everyone how little you know about 360..ignorance is bliss I guess

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Kratos Spartan - 466 days 11 hours ago

Killakap, you just can't stand when someone laughs at you, can you? It's eating you up inside. Just let it all out, kid. You will feel much better.

-Kratos

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Marquis_de_Sade - 466 days 7 hours ago

Sorry Kratos, you cant slate someone for an immature insult one moment then act like little brat yourself the next. Perhaps you need a jolt of reality to make you see that you aren't a bad ass greek god after all and just a sad loser trying to put others down by use of terms such as kid.

It's so fun though. Seeing people get mad because someone is "trolling" And then laughing at them, which just makes them even more angry inside. Like this.....

Killakap <---- jajajajajajajaja

this being a prime example. If thats your idea of fun you need help 'kid'.

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