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New Banjo Kazooie was originally a platformer

OXM reports that Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts did originally start life as a platformer.

However, Rare's Neil Harrison admits that it felt stale and didn't fit in with today's market.

"We thought well, we'll just do another platform game as Banjo Kazooie," Harrison explains. "We did that for a bit and as gamers and as developers, it just felt a little bit stale. It felt like it didn't fit in today's market. With the 360, there's just so much more we can do, we thought we'd try something different."

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NowGen - 478 days 13 hours ago

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this game should be fun. im looking forward to it. you dont get to many good platformers these days, so this fills a need on the 360.

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NO_PUDding - 478 days 12 hours ago

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PS3 has platformers. That isn't an industry wide lack, just the 360.

Anyway, I told everyone the custom creation was tacked on. For that reason I ahve very little faiht.

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gaffyh - 478 days 12 hours ago

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If this had stayed as a platformer I would have been looking forward to it. The first 2 games were great, and when the formula is good you don't change it, you should just tweak it a little.

Unfortunately it looks like Rare have changed it :(

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Montrealien - 478 days 12 hours ago

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lol, thanx for reminding us that the PS3 has a platformer, a great one at that. And also for reminding us you clearly have no interest in the game mr I don`t want pudding. I just don`t think the vehicle creation is as (tacked on) as you say.

I can`t wait to try this game out, it has lots of promise imho.

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cherrypie - 478 days 11 hours ago

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"The PS3 has platformers"

What? OTher than R&C, what is there? And, really, R&C is just as much a Third-person shooter as it is a platform game. More TPS than platformer really.

And, the Xbox 360 has Kameo, Katamari Damacy and Xbox LIVE Arcade titles too.

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NO_PUDding - 478 days 8 hours ago

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Neither Kameo or Katamari Damacy are platformers.

And Katamari Damacy I have on my PS2, so OOOH win. You get ports from the PS2.

And if we talk about Live titles, then we shoudl talk about PSn too. And believe me, with the PSone dl games and the arcade games, the PS3 defintely has a lot of platforming action.

And By the way, the developer said it IS tacked on in a Gamersyde interview.

That's the only reason this budget title looks unimpressive.

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Montrealien - 478 days 8 hours ago

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We get it pudding man, you don`t want to play this game.

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PirateThom - 478 days 12 hours ago

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I wish it had stayed a platformer, Nintendo and Insomniac have both proved that platformers are more than viable and can be innovative in their own ways.

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Montrealien - 478 days 11 hours ago

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where does it say it is not a platfomer anymore? I am pretty positive the platforming elements will be very solid. Rare have done some of the best platformers of the past 15-20 years and for so many years by under Miyamoto and nintendo. I have faith. And if it`s 40$ this should be full of win and value.

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cherrypie - 478 days 11 hours ago

2.2 - Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is going to be terrific.

R&C is a Third-Person Shooter, not a "platformer".

Second, Rare is *adding* innovative gameplay to the platformer genre, the new device-building activity is very inventive and will press what you can do with a "platform" game.

The devices are going to enable you to "reach" new platforme stages. Its a great idea, and from everything we've seen -- and what the previews and press is saying -- everyone agrees that Rare is pulling it off.

Looks like you're simply bitter frankly, Rare is going to have a big hit with Banjoo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts and the fans & market know it... this makes the usual group of anti-Xbox 360 / anti-MS zealots bitter & angry.

Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is going to rock.

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nieto - 478 days 12 hours ago

3 - "Nuts & Bolts centres around creating your own customised vehicles"

so they are trying to copy mariokart but with customizations? how original!

now bring on the disagrees! ;-p

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Montrealien - 478 days 12 hours ago

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I totally agree, you have such a good point.

see what I did thar?

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Deviant - 478 days 6 hours ago

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i dot not xD.
oh and @ ur post aboce it isnt a real platformer cause 70% of the game is about driving.

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Montrealien - 478 days 2 hours ago

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I don't either, I actually changed my post to the complete opposite of what I said earlier after I got 3 disagrees in 4 minutes. That's what I did thar, lol. I was really bored at work this morning.

As for this 70% thing, they say that somewhere? I'm sure there will be good platforming, even if its just 30% but I do hope this vehicle thing is more then a gimmick, I am hoping it will be good.

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cherrypie - 478 days 10 hours ago

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Exactly. The game has platform elements that require you to build devices to solve.

That is very cool. A heck of a lot more fun than SMG's "more of the same", and more PLATFORMER-centric than R&C's very traditional Third-person-shooter gameplay.

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Mike134nl - 478 days 11 hours ago

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I give them kudos for trying something different than exploiting the already existing franchise, which would have been a much saver bet.

But if they believe the game is better of this way, I will wait and see if they where wright.

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cherrypie - 478 days 11 hours ago

6 - Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is going to be terrific.

I'm glad they didnt just make "yet another platform game".

The new idea (using user-created devices to solve the usual "platform problems") is *terrific*.

No longer is it soley timing (jump, run, jump jump BIG JUMP) but it has narrative, it has a RPG-like drive (find new devices and build new vehicles).

Its a *terrific* idea -- I think its a great way to expand the Platformer Genre.

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pcz - 478 days 10 hours ago

7 - New Banjo Kazooie was originally a platformer

surprise surprise. next

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idontcare - 478 days 9 hours ago

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this guy talks BS

a platformer can be good - just look at Ratchet & Clank.

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"no idea? add in some vehicles and everything should be fine" ... lolol

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Honolulu - 478 days 9 hours ago

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How about making an open world Banjo-game instead, like how ND did with the Jak & Daxter-series... especially like the first Jak & Daxter. :)

I would much rather play an open world platformer than a racer/platformer, imo.

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bishop-br - 478 days 8 hours ago

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I'm all up for platformers. But mascots on cars? I'm out, sorry... No Jak X, no Crash Team Racing, no Mario Kart... I have enough bad experience with those mascot car games to get delusional again.

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Xi - 478 days 7 hours ago

11 - sigh.

What difference is there between a traditional platforming game where you're a fat plumber or an animal, or a robot?

It's a platforming game, but instead of using your character to complete goals you use your own vehicular constructions. It's like lbp, except with a point (and slightly less customization).

the only portion that might feature racing is it's online or in a challenge or 2, but this is no different then in other platforming games where you race against clocks (mario galaxy ray surfing?). If you don't like the title why are you bothering to post on it. People worked hard to make these games and within seconds and without playing them your bash and rip them apart.

grow up a little guys.

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Bubble Buddy - 478 days 5 hours ago

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How bout we judge when the game comes out.

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xxBATTLECATxx - 478 days ago

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thats what it shouldve been.
80 % vehicles? lame.

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militant07 - 478 days 12 hours ago

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that game made by RARE ??
Getting it :)
<3 RARE Games

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PopEmUp - 478 days 11 hours ago

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of course pp u sure be getting it btw did u notice that sackboy just piss on your Banjo Kazooie face

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Pain - 478 days 9 hours ago

1.2 - To bad for the Xbots...

Rare is not the Real Rare,

The Real talent @ old Rare like the 60% that left to form FREE RAD they guys that made Timespiltter's and the 'to adult for kids HaZE' never went to M$ when Billy boy bought the Dev studio.

They left and thats why ALL the So called Rare games from M$ blow goats. so u have fun with that.

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militant07 - 478 days 9 hours ago

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you idiot im not pp, im 360 fan .

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Dyingduck - 478 days 5 hours ago

1.4 - However, Rare's Neil Harrison admits that it felt stale and didn't fit in with today's market.

ROFL

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Montrealien - 478 days 11 hours ago

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so this is a racing game? or does that smell of ass come from the fact that you talk out of it?

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DarK-SilV - 478 days 11 hours ago

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New Banjo Kazooie was originally Flopperformer

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Montrealien - 478 days 10 hours ago

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Hey! look, its a bird! its a plain! I`s DarK-flop! His bubbles speak for themselves. As a troll, you have to be a little more original then putting the word flop in all of your posts.

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waseem335 - 478 days 9 hours ago

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in other words they saw how good little big planet was and wanted to incorporate some sort of customisable system in their game

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Montrealien - 478 days 9 hours ago

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which is exactly why competion is good. It forces the other to better themselves if you do great. I can`t wait for little big planet and the new Banjo, we got a great fall for gaming. scratch that, we have an amazing fall for gaming.

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Montrealien - 478 days 5 hours ago

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Ali who? :p

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silverchode - 478 days 1 hour ago

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chode where? :)

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