Rumor: Intel vying for Larrabee chip in Xbox 720

JsonHenry - 475 days 7 hours ago

Lol, their "high end GPU" statement makes me laugh! There is NOTHING high end about it!

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JsonHenry - 475 days 4 hours ago

Larrabee COULD be a pretty sweet architecture in the future. As it stands now it is more of a novelty than anything. It is just a switch up of multi-core tech that is already on the market.

We will see how it pans out though.

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Fox01 - 475 days 7 hours ago

Larrabee's philosophy of using many small, simple cores has similarities to the ideas behind the Cell processor. However, there are differences in implementation.

* The Cell processor includes one main processor which controls many smaller processors. In contrast, all of Larrabee's cores are the same.[7]

* Cell and Larrabee both use a ring bus to communicate between cores.[7]

* The Cell's SPEs each have a local store which is managed explicitly, and they cannot directly access main memory. In Larrabee each core can access all memory through the automatically-managed coherent cache hierarchy.

Criticism

Larrabee's early presentation has drawn some criticism from competitors. At NVISION 08, several NVIDIA employees called the Siggraph paper "marketing puff" and told the press that the Larrabee architecture was "like a GPU from 2006"

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DJ - 475 days 7 hours ago

All cores in Cell are independent, and any core can become a "Master" with multiple slaves. It's all in the programming setup.

Also, any core in Cell can directly access main memory through DMA requests.

But hey, that's Wikipedia for you.

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Fox01 - 475 days 7 hours ago

Why should we trust you instead of wikipedia?

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lowcarb - 475 days 7 hours ago

If you didn't no by now he's David jaffe lol.

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DJ - 475 days 5 hours ago

http://www.blachford.info/c...

http://www.research.ibm.com...

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lsujester - 475 days 3 hours ago

Or if you want real explanations, go to Anand's site and look up the articles about it. Mildly technical, but a bit informative in overviews and stuff. Also, it comes from a PC guys, so it's pretty free of "PS3 and Cell rulz!".

http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

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Drekken - 475 days 7 hours ago

It's just unacceptable that the lifespan is so short. Home PC's have a longer expiration date :\

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lowcarb - 475 days 7 hours ago

What developers are saying the 360 is hitting the ceiling? links please

Edit: drekken I can' find any so can you please post one? I have yet to have read any developer saying the 360 is hitting the sealing and if true I would sure love to read it.

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Drekken - 475 days 7 hours ago

Bubbles, on the Xbox... nothing. If you think an unreal engine game is tops on graphics this gen, I feel bad for you.

Lowcarb, There are plenty of articles lately on N4G about that subject... search them out.

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dan-boy - 475 days 5 hours ago

are you reffering to the lame articles that are wrote by idiots that are posted on this sony fanboy run and infested site?! NO console has been maxed in two years ever.. for an example, pop in a launch ps2 title, then compare it to a recent release. unless ofcourse on sony consoles have the potential to improve with time whilst every other console is defunct within two years. especially when the the ps3 and 360 are pretty evenly matched i.e: same ram, slightly better gpu in the 360 and better cpu in the ps3. to there's not much difference really.

the ps3 does have some good looking games. but remember, they are running on super games engines and have been in development since 05. it's not superior harware that makes them so special. just talented in-house sony devs, with plenty of time and the rite tools to squeeze the max from the machine. microsofts lack of first party studios is the reason for the lack of super game engines on it's machine.

dont believe all the sh!t negative 360 rubbish that gets approved on this very sad site. the crap that gets wrote especially for flame sites like n4g is ridiculous. and just shows how little the fanboys that agree with it know.

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ThanatosDMC - 475 days 5 hours ago

You do know that the 360 is as easy to program as a normal PC game compared to the PS3, which has a different architecture, right? The parallelism of upgrading a normal PC's hardware and that of a 360 might go hand in hand since devs probably understand the mechanics of the 360. Ergo "maxed out".

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Drekken - 475 days 5 hours ago

So the quotes in those articles were fabricated? I thought they were real. It didnt seem to far fetched to me. Also Dan-boy, One would assume that a developer would have to hold back a bit on the graphics with the 360. They used hardware that has been around for years. The architecture of the hardware in the 360 is VERY similar to the code that has been used for PC's for a while now... So I know a computer with xbox specs can not run a PC game as a computer with all the latest and greatest. I am talking from a technical view, not a fan boy rant as most people will see this comment. I want to talk strictly hardware from a gamer that has been gaming for my whole life and has almost every console/ pc configuration ever.

lol @ bubbles... sorry!

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dan-boy - 475 days 4 hours ago

i dont really understand your point? because it's it's easy to code for, that doesn't prove that it's incapable of running a hardware pressing game engine does it?????????? far-cry2 is something that springs to mind instantly.

drekken: please post some links from INDEPENDENT DEVELOPERS and not some two-bit gaming site claiming that the 360's maxed beacause gears is still one of the best looking games on it! i go back to my original point, game engines make the games what they are. is there any proof that the 360 couldn't run killzone2? or gran tourismo? or metal gear?? no there isn't! just stupid fanboys, and stupid sites that post nonsense knowing that will get hits from sad sites like n4g.

ofcourse metal gear and killzone would have to go on muli-discs to run on the 360.

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Gold3nStat3KID - 475 days 6 hours ago

That IS one MAJOR feature they need in Xbox 720.

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cmrbe - 475 days 6 hours ago

Kungfu Jesus.

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SkyGamer - 475 days 3 hours ago

Well Put. Last gen ps2 dominated and this gen ist is more an even battleground. Nexgen will be really interesting because everyone will be on the same level.

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ApocalyPS3 - 475 days 3 hours ago

But they would be prolonging the life of the console, which most people would say is a good thing. But it's not. I'd rather see something new in a timely manner, than to do minor upgrades in a smaller time frame, for a much longer stretch before a new "core console" would be released.

Tempting, but look at the PC world. That new motherboard is supposed to last you longer, yet once the socket becomes inadequate (and the bridges/slots become outdated) they've already plucked it off and had it replaced with something WON'T take your old parts. Yes, old REALLY means OLD in the PC world. So anything you buy today shouldn't be considered all that old. But nevertheless it will always be a losing battle.

Unless they can invent a technically robust architecture SPECIFICALLY taking into account that it should still be technically accessible to everyone. Also, it will have to be universal enough to accommodate anything that you would "plug in" to it. For instance, someone may want to pop in 3 xtra GPUs, to get quad.

But you also begin to see the problem: that guy who runs quad won't be the "model system" that developers will have in mind. In fact, the only thing they could count on is the "core system".

The possibilities are there, we just cannot apply them to gaming as it exists TODAY. I wouldn't be too surprised however if their is an ACTUAL evolution in planning along these very lines. If so, it would totally change gaming as we know it.

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Raptors - 475 days 2 hours ago

No because it would defeat the purpose of console gaming. Console gaming is for ease of use, upgrading is more for the PC group. I'm not saying its a bad thing, im just saying think of the 8 yr olds or the people who are not that tech savvy. They see a game for their console, they want to play it. THey go home and put it in realizing they dont have enough ram to run it. They call sony or MS saying "I have the system, why cant i run it?" People wont put up with that for a console and MS/Sony/Nintendo (although nin did it with the N64) wont bother with the headache.

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Sitdown - 474 days 22 hours ago

Sounds like you just described the Wii to me.

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ph33rgear - 474 days 11 hours ago

true enough, they are trying to get their hands in all the cookie jars

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Deadman64 - 475 days 3 hours ago

cool

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