Mirror's Edge - PS3 lead platform, trophy & dlc plans

gaffyh - 516 days 5 hours ago

No pudding posted this in the forum:

"EA have all their newer developments lead on PS3. Dead Space for exmaple.

Ubisoft too. Prince of Persia is PS3 lead."

Just wanted to ask if this is true? Cos I was under the impression that EA were porting everything from 360 to PS3.

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callahan09 - 516 days 5 hours ago

No, they're only porting Valve productions onto the PS3 because Valve are ignoramuses and refuse to program for the PS3 despite the fact that it would be more than lucrative for them to get off their lazy asses and learn some tricks with the hardware (there are more than enough developers out there who have gotten their heads around it and they share tools and information with PS3 developers who need it...)

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NO_PUDding - 516 days 4 hours ago

Gaffyh, it's true. I am nmot some crazed fanboy.

Well a tiny bit. But that doesn't stop fact from being fact.

Basically as I said in the openzone, all internal developments in EA and Ubisoft as of a certain date respective to the company, will be PS3 Lead.

For 360 owners, don't worry, developing on the PS3 will only iron out the problems they had with PS3, it will never damage the 360 version. It may even improve it.

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CaptainHowdy - 516 days 4 hours ago

EA now realizes that ps3 is its bread n butter...most of their sales come from ps3, might as well pay back with quality games

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Jerkapotamus - 516 days 4 hours ago

They demoed the game at E3 with a sixaxis in every interview I saw on every game site/tv show.It made me think they probably had PS3 as their lead platform.

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ar - 516 days 4 hours ago

The reason Valve doesn't develop for the PS3 is simply because they doesn't have the resources to develop for three platforms. In comparison to other companies Valve is a pretty small development studio.

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jams_shop - 516 days 4 hours ago

We have to Thank Criterion Games(Burnout: Paradise) for that. I believe they were the first developers who used the PS3 as their lead platform and they are part of EA games.

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mistertwoturbo - 516 days 4 hours ago

That's the thing, Leading on the PS3 will result in a better multiplatform game. Sure 360 fans will hate that they don't get to gloat "nyah nyah we get the superior version" or whatever. But at least this way, everybody gets a good game regardless of PS3/360.

I only wished GTAIV made the PS3 the lead platform instead, perhaps it would have ran much smoother and be equal to the 360. Oh well, let's move on.

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NO_PUDding - 516 days 3 hours ago

GTAIV was identical to me. PS3 had better framerates too.

Anyway, I don't care for GTAIV anymore.

@ar You you have no clue what you are talking about. They could easily get EA to pay for some extra people on the team. The point is Valve as a team are as potently ignorant as your average fanboy. Not to agree with the eprson above becuase calling them ignoramae is different, but they are just anti-Sony.

Cormack is only anti-Sony becuase he helped develop the Xbox. Gabe Newell has one reason alone, and that's becuase it's anti-social to developers. It is, but it creates a competetive market in the process, and if Gabe Newell can't appreciate that, then he can keep his games on the Source Engine for the 10 years for all I care.

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Tomdc - 516 days 2 hours ago

i dont like the look of this game personally.

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juuken - 516 days 2 hours ago

Indeed.

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gaffyh - 516 days 2 hours ago

Ok, thanks for the replies. I remember a story from a whil ago when EA said something like they would start using PS3 as the lead platform, but I didn't think they had already started that plan.

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ar - 516 days 2 hours ago

First of there's no point in being rude.

Second, Gabe Newell said him self that they doesn't have the resources to handle three platforms. If you choose to believe in him or not is your decision.

Third, since EA doesn't own Valve (and therefore none of Valves IP:s) they are hardly attracted to the idea to finance a permanent PS3 development team at Valve. They can make the decision to port the game to PS3 if they want to (a decision they seam to be making already) but they can't just put some guys over at Valve as soon as they want a Valve title on the PS3. Even for an experienced developer it takes time to learn and adapt to a new system (believe me, I work as a software developer). Every company has different ways to work in and every game engine behaves differently. Therefor if EA want Valve to develop for the PS3 as well they would have to fund for an entire permanent PS3 department at Valve (a company they doesn't own).

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BattleAxe - 516 days 1 hour ago

Actually it has nothing ton do with any of those things, all it has to do with is Gabe Newell not liking Sony. He was a former employee of Microsoft and about a year ago he said " the PS3 is a waste of everyones time".

Simple as that.

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superaktieboy - 515 days 23 hours ago

i actually didn't notice any difference, not frame rate or graphics aside from the upscaler, i played on a friends 360 and my PS3 on his 50" TV and i noticed that the PS3's up scaling is a bit more accurate, which i find weird since the 360 version is hardware upscaled and aside from that it also runs on a higher resolution.. im not sure if i saw it wrong or that i am just plain crazy, but the upscaling of the PS3 looked better to my eyes

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streeks1984 - 515 days 22 hours ago

I dont care what is in the lead I dont support EA so I will not be buying this crap of a game.

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NMC2007 - 515 days 22 hours ago

Game development for the PS3? I don't get this statement, I mean Burnout Paradise was the lead and nothing happened..... did it? I dunno, I didn't buy Burnout Revenge at all, was there some sort of lead platform advantage that I don't know about? Come on guise, let me in on the secrets! I wanna know the lead dev secrets!! come on! Please!! SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECREEEEEEEE EETS!!!!

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LOLZ!

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Bombibomb - 515 days 20 hours ago

Man I can't wait for Mirror's Edge.

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Silellak - 515 days 18 hours ago

This is a good thing, for both consoles.

It's been said by developers time and time again that it's much easier to port from the PS3 to the 360 than the other way around.

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Lmann - 515 days 14 hours ago

It has to do with the fact that Valve has always been a PC developer, it's what they know, and are setup to do. 360 games can be developed pretty much the same way you would for the PC. On the other hand, Valve has stated that the PS3 was dumb and a waste of time. I suspect that Valve had a hard time getting their minds around the PS3 Cell, RSX architecture. It quite different from long standing PC development techniques. Anyhow, too bad for Valve. It only hurts them in the end. It would not hurt them to learn something new once every ten years.

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superaktieboy - 515 days 23 hours ago

i could do that, and will later on ;) if others want the scans agree and ill post them here, otherwise disagree and ill just pm CViper with the scans

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MrSwede - 516 days 5 hours ago

Check the forum thread (Via link).

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Mr_cheese - 516 days 5 hours ago

Yeah, I was like what??? when I saw N4G exclusive. Very miss leading

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red_ring_of_death - 516 days 5 hours ago

80% of them sucks

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mistertwoturbo - 516 days 4 hours ago

Xbox360 Released 1 year ahead of the PS3.

There's a shocker.

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DJ - 516 days 2 hours ago

It's actually true. But a lot of top developers (as well as Phil Harrison) stated about a year ago that eventually all multiplatform titles will be built first on the PS3, and then ported down to the 360.

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Kratos3452 - 515 days 13 hours ago

what are u talking about?dmc4, gta4, burnout paradise started on ps3 development first and look how they turned out.great on both systems.

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KRUSSIDULL - 516 days 5 hours ago

Its unreal engine 3...

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ar - 516 days 4 hours ago

UE3 plus Beäst lightning system ( http://www.illuminatelabs.c...
And don't expect this game to suck on the PS3 just because earlier games using UE3 has.

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rhood022 - 516 days 4 hours ago

@8.2

Since when did all that matter? Fanboys raved about Mass Effect and Halo and those weren't even touched by the PS3.

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gameraxis - 516 days 4 hours ago

the way the ps3 reads the lighting effects of the unreal engine 3, it just kinda paints it white instead of having a shine...army of two wasn't that bad tho

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Infernus - 515 days 20 hours ago

Dark Sector has that 'shine' on PS3, that was one of the more recent UE3 games ported from 360 to PS3 though, so maybe since the deal with Epic from last years E3 the PS3 can do UE3 games well.

We'll see with Mirror's Edge won't we :D

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Tetsuryu - 515 days 19 hours ago

Actually Dark Sector runs on the proprietary 'Evolution Engine'. Though I will say it looks similar to UE3.

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DooRentZs - 515 days 19 hours ago

is a heavily modded UE 2.5

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deep - 516 days 5 hours ago

All footage shown has been PS3.

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deep - 516 days 4 hours ago

No problem.

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harry190 - 516 days 5 hours ago

Criterion,studio which really loves Playstation consoles and handhelds.

Mirror's Edge = DICE.

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NO_PUDding - 516 days 4 hours ago

Criterion don't have any preference Harry.

But EA's internal devs have switched to lead platform on PS3. As have Ubisofts.

You guys didn't see that at E3?

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waseem335 - 516 days 4 hours ago

DICE have worked on the battlefield series

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Pain - 516 days 2 hours ago

What i like to see and hear.

No GIANT huge pile of crap holding it back now!!

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Jason 360 - 515 days 22 hours ago

DICE did Battlefield BA and the PS3 version is sub-par to the 360, so that just shoots down your theory about DICE. Criterion did Burnout not DICE, get your facts right. You know a little click on Google or Yahoo can help with that.

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IzKyD1331 - 515 days 18 hours ago

how is it sub-par?
because you say so right? oh then it MUST be true!

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 516 days 5 hours ago

Watch him come and make up something defending the xbox 360.

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KBDuB - 516 days 4 hours ago

You love the smell of victory? I thought you had to have a hand in the victory to be able to smell victory.. So, what did you do? =P

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morganfell - 516 days 1 hour ago

He purchased a PS3. How's that for you. Nothing will secure victory faster than purchases so in effect he was part of the most important factor.

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KBDuB - 515 days 17 hours ago

Lol. That's fair enough, I guess.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 516 days 5 hours ago

Go back to sucking your dads.

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SI7VER - 516 days 5 hours ago

Please don't just make a comment this without some facts that back it up. It just makes you look like a total fan-boy fool.

-777-

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Shane Kim - 516 days 3 hours ago

I wonder how long it'll take until they stop developing for 360 all together.

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 516 days 2 hours ago

I'd say end of 2009!!! ;-D
(Well it will be DEAD by then!!!) ;-P

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DooRentZs - 516 days 5 hours ago

No matter who leads the platform, as long as the game is built on the same engine, the result will be the same.. & as far as i know PS3 version of Unreal Engine 3 powered games (Unreal Tournament 3) tends to slightly lose its quality compared to the 360 version.

Thats why i think your comment ("just look at the lead platform") is silly. :p

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 516 days 5 hours ago

Shut up, homo.

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Sonics020 - 515 days 23 hours ago

@6.1
Well the 360 version came out several months after the PS3 version so of course its gonna look better same reason Oblivion looks better on PS3 and why Bioshock will look better on PS3. When you have a few extra months to sharpen textures the game looks better than a game that was only being developed for less time.

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DooRentZs - 516 days 3 hours ago

"Go back to sucking your dads."..fanboy.

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Microsoft_Spokesman - 515 days 13 hours ago

Original.

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Snukadaman - 515 days 21 hours ago

burnout had that same washed out color look....ruined the whole game imo....I purchased the game..played for about a hour and never went back to it...ps3 ruins games period.

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waseem335 - 516 days 4 hours ago

hahahaha this guy says RROD is incredible hardware lmao hahahaha

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TrooGamer - 516 days 4 hours ago

I dont get why its such an issue...are PS3 owners not getting stuffed by square enix delaying Fina Fantasy 13 just to port the game over to the 360?

Burnout proved that you get an equal port by starting on PS3 so people need to get over it.

Both consoles have pros n cons...

ALL THE VIDEOS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DRIBBLING OVER HAVE BEEN THE PS3 VERSION....

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eagle21 - 516 days 1 hour ago

Nice comment, but Burnout Paradise is better on PS3. And Oblivion, GTA IV, DMC4, etc. Late 2007 - early 2008 has been a turning point for multiplats. Hopefully, the PS3 versions will get better use of Blu-ray technology and not get dumbed down because of 360's "compression" depression...lol

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Mr Fancy Pants - 515 days 22 hours ago

"it can't take full advantage of the 360's incredible hardware." LOL
;-)

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SmokingMonkey - 515 days 21 hours ago

many developers have said that making PS3 to 360 ports work's better for 360 games. It doesn't work the other way around because the 360 is inferior to the PS3. (that reason alone makes it true, if the 360 was truly superior than ports would look good on the PS3.)

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poindat - 516 days 4 hours ago

Because the architectures are different. Games that used the 360 as the lead just do not port well to the cell, while probably almost anything can run the the 360. So games made with the PS3 as the lead will be almost identical on both consoles. While games ported from the 360 may not be as good, you can see the true power of the PS3 on first party games or multiplats where the PS3 is the lead or both versions are built from the ground up.

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karlostomy - 516 days 4 hours ago

Your comment doesn't make sense.

You say:
1. 360 lead = great 360 game, poor ps3 multiplat
2. ps3 lead = great ps3 game, great 360 multiplat
3. Ignore the above, look at MGSIV. Therefore the ps3 is more powerful.

WTF?

That makes absolutely no sense.

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poindat - 516 days 3 hours ago

What I meant was:
360 lead = Better on 360 because the cell doesn't read code ported from the 360 well.
PS3 lead = Both are identical quality because the 360 can read the code from the PS3 well.
PS3 1st party game or exclusive = (Usually) able to harness the full power of the PS3 and is generally better than multiplats.

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sephy 9 2 5 - 516 days 3 hours ago

than to the Cell basically is what he said.

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AshleyRiot - 516 days ago

@zerodin Why does it struggle when it comes to games that run great on the PS2 such as Bully and Tomb Raider Anniversary? Sorry I can't answer your question. I'm not a game developer and don't want to make up an answer from stuff I read. But maybe with all your wisdom you can answer mine.

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power of Green - 516 days ago

BullShit lol. The game is gimped by default with PS3 as the lead.

You speak as if this game is some sort of processing hog or an graphical marvel.

You're confusing the lack of possible PS3 version issues *in comparison to other 360 & PS3 vs matches* due to PS3 being the lead,,,,, with devs pushing games harder with the 360 as the lead not caring so much if PS3 gets left behind.

PS3 has gimped this game.

For all we know the game's artstyle is a PS3 hardware compromise

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IzKyD1331 - 516 days ago

which is why this game has received praise from almost everyone in the games industry for its innovation, art style, and great graphics?

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reckoner - 515 days 21 hours ago

Stop trying to act like you're a game developer. They know what they're doing; you don't.

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Shane Kim - 516 days 2 hours ago

You show em terminator.

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