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Dyack: Press Too Hasty in Judging Too Human

"Denis Dyack gives us his insight on what some of the press has said about Silicon Knights' Too Human. It's widely known that the game got some negative press during the back end of June, so with that, we thought it would be good to see what Denis thought about it all."
Relin - contributor
Published: 517 days 16 hours ago | News | E3 2008 | Xbox 360 | Gaming
 
 

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predator - 517 days 16 hours ago
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Press and gamers alike are, play the demo a couple of times and you will love it
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cain141 - 517 days 16 hours ago
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I'm still iffy on this title, but the second time did play better than the first.
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predator - 517 days 16 hours ago
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yeah i admit that it does take a couple of play throughs to get use to it but after that its great
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Nevers - 517 days 16 hours ago
1.3 - Second Play Thru
of the demo was when it clicked for me... I really liked the "stick-combat" they've implemented. Only problem I really had was the with some of the voice acting. But I'm definitely a nit-picker with that type of thing and it definitely wasn't as bad as some games.
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CaptainHowdy - 517 days 16 hours ago
1.4 - hmm
still very much so cautiously excited
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kewlkat007 - 517 days 16 hours ago
1.5 - Yeah I said the same predator ...
...still getting it...

..It's my type of game...

..it's that simple....
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Lifendz - 517 days 15 hours ago
1.6 - I don't understand
why something has to be wrong with someone if they don't enjoy the game.

Look, Denis, I'm sure you gave a lot of time and energy to Too Human. I'm sure it's your "baby." And I'm also sure you love the game. But stop telling others that something is wrong with them if they don't. Stop with the forum posts because it comes off as desperation.

No one came to your game saying "I'm not going to like this no matter what." People are giving their honest and unbiased opinion.

Edit: Well, more times than not, if someone doesn't like the game they're going to say it's bad. Maybe it is a "bad" game to those people. Whatever the case, he needs to stop with all this anti-media rants. I heard him on the 1up podcast going on about how bad the Unreal Engine is. Hey Denis, you're in the super minority on that one.

Don't get me wrong, I wish him success. But when even RTS type guys come back and say the game isn't that good then maybe he should stop pointing his fingers at everyone else and take an unbiased look at his game (if that's even possible).
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ChampIDC - 517 days 15 hours ago
1.7 - @1.6
Sadly, people just disliking the game isn't the case. The majority of people seem to be simply saying the game is bad. There's a major difference between giving an honest review and just bashing the game.
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StephanieBBB - 517 days 15 hours ago
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Denis Dyack just seems desperate when he says stuff like this.

Take it like a man Dyack, no pain, no gain.
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facepalm - 517 days 15 hours ago
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I played it a few times and unfortunately I can't grasp the controls. I'm just not having fun with this demo...

Is the game bad?? No it isn't... But to me it was a bit of a disappointment, especially with the time and the hype that went into this game.

That's the wonders of the "Hype Machine" for you...
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Lifendz - 517 days 14 hours ago
1.10 - Dyack reminds me of the guys that made Lair
insofar as the way in which he's telling us that it's something we're doing that's causing gamers and the media to not like the game. Remember the devs for Lair tried to say something to the effect of you're controlling a dragon and that's why it doesn't respond right away.

And gamers have been judging things like this since the dawn of gaming. Some people don't like Halo. Some hate Final Fantasy. And a lot of people have already written off Home without ever having tried it.

This is what happens. I'm not going to get the new COD game no matter how good it is because I'm tired of WWII games.

Tis the nature of the beast, Denis. And when Too Human flops please don't try to blame anyone but yourself.

BTW, I felt bad for the guy on a recent 1up show when he was trying to get the other guys to play and no one wanted to. Ouch.
1.11 Megatron08 | 517 days 13 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Dark Collosis - 517 days 12 hours ago
1.12 - Too Human is VERY good
I am now on my 4th play through on the Demo.. I love this type of game and my copy has been on hold sence the release was anounced. Playing the demo has changed nothing but make me more hungry to play more.. I have NEVER played through a Demo more than twice till this game. Sonyfans breed the hate on this game which is just sad that dont give it a fair chance.. Oh and yes the bezerker on the demo is by far the best class i have played IMO.. BTW i recently had my xbox360 stop working on me do to hardware failure. I called the xbox support and the whole process of getting a box to ship it out in and recieving a replacement xbox took LESS than TWO WEEKS.. I am still very impressed. Sorry if i sound like a complete 360 fan but thats only because i have 20 games already and like it more than i ever liked my PS2/PS1... game on gamers
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Daxx - 517 days 11 hours ago
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Like everyone else is saying, the more you play it the more you will like it. Too Human is different but once you get used to it you'll love it.
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ThanatosDMC - 517 days 9 hours ago
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Sucks for him. I wonder how much money they invested in the game just to see it get flushed down the drain.

I downloaded the demo since i read that the combat is like DMC. I was sadly disappointed. Just a waste of space in my 120gb... err well, technically 100gb...
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Erasmus - 517 days 16 hours ago
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I still havn't had any extended time with the game. Too early to call it.
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ThaGeNeCySt - 517 days 16 hours ago
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i liked the demo... then liked it a lot more as soon as I unlocked the berzerker class... the more and more I play, the more loot I find and the more different my character looks after the 30-40 min play of the demo
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Funky Town_TX - 517 days 16 hours ago
4 - garbage
when your game is garbage you have to defend it.
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dachiefsman - 517 days 16 hours ago
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you and maybe some others thinks its garbage, but i have seen more people who like it than hate it.
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Mr Bun - 517 days 15 hours ago
4.2 - I think it is a pretty good game (the 2nd time thru)...
I just wish Dennis wouldn't spend so much time defending the game every time someone finds a flaw with it!
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titntin - 517 days 16 hours ago
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It's simply not as awesome as many wanted it to be.

If you take it for what it is its fun. Its simply not the AAA exclsive blockbuster that we were told to expect - but lets face it, very little is.

Some will love it, some will hate it, its simply not a game with universal appeal.
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Mr Bun - 517 days 15 hours ago
5.1 - I agree with tit...
but I think that is what you get with any RPG! Some people love 'em and some people hate 'em.
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kewlkat007 - 517 days 15 hours ago
5.2 - the single Core Ingredient for me and buying a game(within my genre) is whether it is FUN TO PLAY!!!
Usually if the gameplay adds up then all the other little things could be overlooked.

Why do some still play PAC-MAN and TETRIS? They are not graphically awesome but they are Fun and challenging to some.
As well as very SIMPLE controls, that are far from that, of Too Human..haha I will have to master them buttons, on that game.

Finally a Action Adventure/Sci-fi/RPG element/Hack /Slashing Shooter, that is not so much, a button smasher. (literal sense)
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ChampIDC - 517 days 15 hours ago
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Overhype is one of the biggest game killers. Sometimes a good game just gets screwed by initial overhype which hurts sales at release.
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Fishy Fingers - 517 days 15 hours ago
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Denis Dyack brought it on himself with his constant shameless promoting. It's a good game, maybe not for everyone but most games aren't, enjoy it or leave it. Not a big deal.

Promise people the world, guess what, people will expect the world.
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witchking - 517 days 15 hours ago
7 - Note to Denis
Shut up.

Let the game do the talking for you now. You aren't helping.
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Boldy - 517 days 14 hours ago
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Oh thank you, I need someone with three bubbles to decide I should and shouldn't play.
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Figboy - 517 days 15 hours ago
9 - after playing the demo for about 45 minutes
i'm still not sure about this game.

i'm a sucker for hack n slash and RPGs hybrids, so i'm still willing to give this game a chance.

i haven't gotten a chance to play with the different classes, but honestly, i'll just wait for the full game to toy around with it.

the camera is very annoying, and i'm not too sure i'm a fan of using the right analog stick for attacks. it just seems too cumbersome. i'd have rather had attacks mapped to the face buttons, and do combos that way.

it's extrememly awkward doing a combo that consists of "Press the left stick in any direction, then flick the right stick Up." on paper, it sounds very intuitive and simple, but it generally just devolves into you using the same combo and over again, because the stick movements aren't being registered properly (at least, from what i've experience with the game).

i'm intrigued by the world, so i haven't written this off yet, and i'm pretty sure i'll be buying it on launch day.
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PattyWacker - 517 days 15 hours ago
10 - Its not AAA... but
Its a very fun game that can pass a lot of time by. Once you play enough and get your classes up it opens up a lot of new options and elements of the game. It's like a lot of RPG's, boring off the start, but once you build up your character and face heftier (no clue if thats a word lol) foes, then it becomes very fun and addicting. People need to give this game some slack. I think it is the public and MS's fault for advertising this game as some sort of amazing AAA title when its simply a very good RPG with hack and slash elements. If you take it for what it is you will love it. From the demo I give it a 7.5/10. Im assuming ratings wise it will be around there too since the graphics are a bit glitchy.
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PattyWacker - 517 days 15 hours ago
11 - yehh
this guy does need to shutup though. Let the game do the talking, as I stated in my previous post, it isn't a bad game. But if you do go on trying to reassure everyone every couple days that it isn't bad then it will seem bad lol. You seem desperate dennis, here have a hit of this ganj and relax.
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Apocalypse Shadow - 517 days 15 hours ago
12 - the game is average at best.
but the funny thing is now that the game is turning out to not be "AAA",360 fans now have to continuously defend this game lead by it's creator.we also see the double standards that are there when talking about 360 games and ps3 games.

ps3 games have to hit on all points,rewrite the book and create new types of gameplay and hit new standards on every little thing.including the title screen.but 360 gamers have changed their rhetoric when it comes to gaming.and that's because of one reason:you're getting outsold and games on ps3 are surpassing 360 when it comes to graphics.

first it was"we got all the games.""it's all about the games.""we have more triple A games than the competition.""we have the best graphics.""just look at gears of war."but once 360 got outsold and graphics on ps3 games started to pass 360,then it was....

"it's all about the gameplay."
"as long as it's fun,why does it matter if it doesn't look good."
"if you play it at least ten times,then you will find that this game is actually good."

we have seen it from the sideline.when forza2,halo3,mass effect,and now too human ended up not hitting the "next level" in graphics or gameplay,360 fans statements changed.but you guys were bashing every game from lair to haze like no one's business.but now it's okay?right?RIGHT?

fanboyism hit new lows when microsoft entered the business.you can see the top brass not acting professional.and you can see their fanbase not act like gamers.which pushed other gamers to join sides because of viral marketing,lies,false rumors and other massive FUD.

too human is an average game that might be fun in multiplayer.but it ends there.but now 360 fans should STFU about ps3 games that are releasing and give those games a chance.

apocalypse.......
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FantasyStar - 517 days 15 hours ago
13 - Too Human is getting the "Haze" and "Lair" treatment.
It just goes to show you that the media will do whatever it can to stoke the flame wars and garner more hits on their sites.
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ngg12345 - 517 days 14 hours ago
14 - Too Human always sucked
Denis Dyack telling people "you are playing it wrong" won't change people's minds. Why don't you give the reviewers a guide manual in how they should play the game.
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Daxx - 517 days 11 hours ago
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You have to look at Too Human as something different. Don't try to compare it to other games. It might not be the greatest game but it is a lot of fun once you understand the basic game play mechanics.
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TL24 - 517 days 14 hours ago
15 - I'm sure...
The game will be fun and all but please... All you XBOX 360 fans need to stop praising it as if its going to get a 10 from Gamespot & IGN or something...

The games not perfect and no game is (besides MGS4 hehe), and it doesn't mean Too Human will be a bad game but again it's not going to win any awards. If i had a 360 i'd rent the damn game, but i did play the demo for a few hours. It does get to you after awhile but again not a "AAAA" type of game.
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pumpkinpunker - 517 days 13 hours ago
15.1 - very few people are saying this game is a ten!
It's most likely an 8.

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Daxx - 517 days 11 hours ago
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I would be fine if Too Human got an 8.
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Figboy - 517 days 11 hours ago
16 - it's interesting
to see so many 360 fans on the defensive concerning this game.

the truth is, the game just isn't very good.

it's not awful, don't get me wrong, and i plan on buying it day one, but the game just isn't polished in my opinion.

especially in comparison to other games in the same genre, on the SAME console.

it looks and feels like a game that was supposed to be an Unreal Engine 3 game, but had to be changed at the last minute.

i remember going to E3 2006, and contemplating playing the demo there, but the framerate was atrocious, and those that were playing it were struggling.

they've fixed the framerate issue, but the gameplay issue hasn't been addressed.

there IS some fun to be had here, but worth spending $60 for fun? i don't really think so.

for the 360 fans defending this to no end: it stings, doesn't it? when not a single person will listen to your vehement declarations that the game is worth playing, because of bad press or media bias.

welcome to what it felt like for EVERY Playstation 3 fan and PS3 exclusive title released in the past two years. i call it "Lair and Haze-ville."

Too Human is what one would consider to be a "flawed gem."

much like Heavenly Sword, and Folklore.

games that don't rewrite the book on anything, but are enjoyable gaming experiences regardless.

just take this blow on the chin and move on. the media wrote this game off two years ago. no amount of arguing it's virtues is going to change public opinion now.

trust me. as a Playstation 3 owner since February 2007, i KNOW from experience.
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