Peter Molyneux: 'I feel sorry for Denis Dyack'

Jandre02 - 511 days 8 hours ago

were mostly for people to see if it was the huge failure it was shaping up to be. Downloads are free, btw. So I don't think you can measure a games quality by the amount of demo downloads.

Thats more of a measure of built up hype, for or against a game.

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kazuma - 511 days 8 hours ago

number of demo downloads =/= game success or quality

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The gaming GOD - 511 days 8 hours ago

That could be the many people that were on the fence about this game.

And judging by many of the people here, they played the demo and got rid of the demo just as fast.

So the amount of downloads says nothing

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Cellypower - 511 days 8 hours ago

the game is ok, but I wouldn't buy it though.

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tweaker - 511 days 7 hours ago

"Say 1 million people downloaded the demo that makes 1 million people who will find out that the haters were wrong." or RIGHT.

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hazeblaze - 511 days 7 hours ago

Some people like the game, some people think it is kind of mediocre. This will probably be one of those cult favorites that appeals to a core audience but does not translate into much retail success... much like the first Fable actually... and half of the PS2 rpg library for that matter.

I don't like the art style and the combat doesn't seem very engaging for me... I think I'll pass. But others may like it.

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decapitator - 511 days 6 hours ago

I hope you guys see the irony in here because am absolutely laughing out loud.

Molyneux who is known to over promise and under deliver on his games is criticizing Dyack who fights with people because they don't like his game and likes to throw around a lot of terms just to confuse people into believing he knows what he is talking about...oh the joy..

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Kigmal - 511 days 2 hours ago

The actual game isn't bad, it's the damn controls and horrid camera that mess the game up.

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Highwayman - 511 days 2 hours ago

Peter Molyneux may have done this in the past, though he isn't doing this anymore..Futhermore his games have always been highly successful.

It's typical of some Sony fan to bash Molyneux for that...

I can see where he's coming from, it is something you wouldn't ever be able to comprehend. I have a better understanding of it. It is something that only developers would really comprehend. They know the stresses, fears, excitement, etc...that goes with making a game. Which of you understand nothing.

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jwatt - 510 days 17 hours ago

I actually played the demo today it wasn't a bad game just not really my type of game.

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Zeevious - 510 days 17 hours ago

as soon as an opinion is not completely supportive, your suddenly in the Counter Console Conspiracy...working night and day to undermine the entire gaming establishment of ConsoleX.

Well, I don't hate any console or any game on them but I DO have actual opinions. In this case I'm surprised at the lack of quality in this title.

Anyone with access to a demo can come to their own conclusions.
That's the beauty of a demo...Everyone can try it.

I was asked what my opinion was of the hands-on E3 demo & can only repeat the half-joking phrase I heard: "It's failure is inhuman!"

I realize there where several development issues but going from an almost complete 1990's game to now, I think Too Human has really lost something with this very very thin adaptation of "real Norse Gods"
(cybernetically enhanced so long ago, but somehow we just invented the iPhone?)

Stretching it into 3 games takes it from a thin adaptation to just empty and average with generic gameplay for something supposedly polished for years.

There's nothing new, innovative, original, or particularly unique here...unless you count 'dying' so slowly you've got time to prepare dinner.

All the industry and gamers have here is a game where the only thing updated seems like the version of Unreal Engine . . . and according to Epic they still owe them $650,000 for that.
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So there you have it. I just don't like it, and before I'm called a Hater, or FanBrat or any other nonsense...maybe I don't like it because of the very reasons I mention: There's little to like justifying $60 or worth my time beyond the demo.

After much anticipation, I felt exactly the same way about Haze.
Saying, 'Oh that game just isn't good...I didn't like it' only makes you a 'hater' in the eyes of rival Console Cultists.

Download the demo, play it for yourself and decide If Too Human is for you...

For me, putting the game to sleep would be 'Too Humane'

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Zeevious - 510 days 15 hours ago

to disagree without hating an entire console, just because I dislike a single game?

That's your right, though it's also mine to point out if you had an argument you would have actually made it...instead of cowardly clicking behind the veil of the internet.

But wait, you should hear what Hermod, Frey & Freya, Heimdall, Baldur & everyone else thinks...

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SlyGuy - 510 days 14 hours ago

reminds me of how everyone felt after downloading and playing the HAZE demo.

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Zeevious - 509 days 18 hours ago

I was really anticipating Haze & what was supposed to be a unique approach to the standard FPS game with adult themes and switching sides mid-game.

The reality was all I wanted to switch was to any other game...

Haze or Super-Rub-A-Dub?
Super-Rub-A-Dub or Haze?

I can't decide which is a better First Person Shooter.

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KRUSSIDULL - 511 days 8 hours ago

Aggre this game looks awsome everyone should give it a try.

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Acidicpack - 511 days 8 hours ago

I Agree bro After playing the demo and giving it a chance its a game that could easily suck you in for hours and hours just trying to get all that loot. + the story was top notch just from what was shown in Demo. Going to be a great game. Sure the controls take some getting use to but its worth it. Its a day one buy for me.

And for all the haters.
I know its been getting bad press and its easy to jump on the band wagon when every one is bashing something. But just play it for your self and then be the judge. I have a feeling that its going to be a great sleeper hit.

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Xi - 511 days 8 hours ago

Not included in the demo was co-op, I'm sure it completely changes the feel of the game. Playing too human with a friend probably makes for an awesome time, specially if it's more challenging and when both are at higher levels.

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ChampIDC - 511 days 7 hours ago

The only thing I could possibly complain about from the demo was the animations. Sure, they're not great, but I think the gameplay, story, and item collection really makes up for it. The controls took some getting used to, but I felt they were very effective once I got the hang of it. I'm personally looking forward to the game, but I've always been a big Diablo buff. The game isn't for everyone, but I think it's going to be a solid RPG overall.

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Superfragilistic - 511 days 7 hours ago

It's pending at the mo, but you can find it here: http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Raises some pretty legitimate questions about whether the Easter Egg will be good or bad for the game. Personally I think good, but then I would've thought the game was pretty average if I didn't know how to unlock the other classes and was stuck with the Champion.

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Nevers - 511 days 5 hours ago

..and that's before I knew how to unlock the other classes or played em. I'm buying Too Human more than likely. There just wasn't that much that was bad about the game at all that I noticed. I could nit-pick about voice acting but it wasn't nail-scraping-chalkboards (ie Two Worlds)

... and just WOW... I didn't even know Peter Molyneux could speak of anyone else besides himself in a positive light... just WOW!!!

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N2NOther - 511 days 4 hours ago

I found the demo to be a complete bore.

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Highwayman - 511 days 2 hours ago

Agreed.
Personally I think Too Human has got that "something in it's back pocket" I think the game will do well. But we'll have to see if it's convincing enough for gamers.
I know I've enjoyed the demo. I plan on buying this title myself.

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N2NOther - 511 days ago

I love when people disagree with me when I said I found the demo to be a complete bore. So they're saying I DIDN'T find it a complete bore? IQ tests should be mandatory.

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Arutha - 510 days 19 hours ago

The demo put my fears to rest on the purchase of the game. The single mission was engaging enough with Champion class then being able to play the other classes to see the difference in game play sealed the deal for me. The graphics were better then I thought and I liked the different aspects of the choices you could make on your skills. The various weapons will be fun to use too. The controls were fairly easy to get used too after about 5 minutes and the camera system is not all that bad.

The fact that you get to play the game online with a friend is going to be a big selling point I think. I am curious what the create a character will be like too. It will be interesting to see what add ons they bring to the game through the marketplace. It would be nice for a few side missions hopefully.

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Superfragilistic - 511 days 8 hours ago

I agree. MS has certainly changed tact on the way they show their games. After the Alan Wake and Too Human lessons of E3'06 I think they've adopted a don't show too early approach.

In fact, despite criticism from some corners, I think it shows immense confidence in product for MS to get up and largely say at E3 two years in a row now "We're only showing you our exclusives for the '08('07) holiday lineup".

I'm still amazed they kept Gears 2 & Banjo 3 quiet until GDC this year. They announced both with a little over six months before release!

It also gets me excited as to what we'll see next year... because by staying so quiet, beyond Halo Wars I have no freakin clue what they're up to! lol

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Steven Colbert - 511 days 8 hours ago

Thats the thing though Bladestar.When you get their attention and give them business for their PS3 games,they arrive to downplay games like Too Human or Tales of Vesperia,games whose futures are uncertain for now.Simply wait for the reviews to come out and the reaction of the gaming community.Because if Too Human does not meet expectations,not only will the fanboys have a field day,but a potential new franchise on the 360 will be forgotten.

Its unfair to be biased against any company for a game they have'nt released yet.If that were the case,many games today would only be sequels or franchises.

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DJ - 511 days 7 hours ago

With no RSX unit, no flex I/O bandwidth, and slower memory. To expect Sony and their developers to have shown actual gameplay footage at E3 2005 is an impossible expectation. It was either Show Target Renders, or Have Shortest Conference Ever.

If you look at the trends though, Sony has become more inclined to show gameplay footage rather than target render, striking a pretty good balance so far. Microsoft tried the CG route as well, and seem fairly comfortable with it. Neither company has felt any backlash since late last year.

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kevnb - 511 days 8 hours ago

the media tries to convince us reviews and previews matter, but in reality they matter to very few people. 50 cent bulletproof still outsold okami, no matter what some internet writer said.

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ChampIDC - 511 days 7 hours ago

It's always nice to see somebody just honestly say that they didn't enjoy a game instead of just saying it plain sucks. I can't stand the people that automatically say a game sucks because they just didn't like it. Bubbles for you for being a reasonable person.

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Infernus - 510 days 21 hours ago

The press don't make the game and won't be playing the game like us gamers would be so in all honesty try out the games and buy the ones you want to keep playing, it's the only way to find out what you enjoy playing. The media aren't you so to speak lol, you make your own decisions, many get so tied up in metascores that they never give the badly reviewed games a chance.

Remember Heavenly Sword's media attention? This site was lit up by article after article and fanboys saying the game's too short and it sucks, had they tried it? No of course not, they listened to the media attention and blindly followed. Having played the game, it didn't suck. I felt it was a very well laid out game but although the story was good the game was too short, it was a good game, just not enough for me personally.

Too Human could be exactly the same. So don't believe everything you read, try out the demo and if you like it then buy it, if you don't you haven't spent anything on a demo have you?

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kevnb - 511 days 8 hours ago

Atleast of the people who tried it, most seem to like but not love the demo.

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ChampIDC - 511 days 7 hours ago

The animations may not be perfect, but I think overall, the combat is pretty fresh and exciting. I'm also buying it first day.

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Lord Vader - 511 days 6 hours ago

08/19 I believe...

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Superfragilistic - 511 days 5 hours ago

All good mate but release date is less than a month away!

For US it is 19 August 2008, for Europe and the rest 29 August 2008.

http://xbox360.ign.com/obje...

Interestingly IGN has classified it in the "Action Adventure" genre. Which to be honest, beyond the heavy stats and loot, seems much more accurate. :)

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ChampIDC - 511 days 5 hours ago

My latest Game Informer confused me, because it said 8/12. I always heard 8/19 until then. I guess their info was outdated maybe.

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ChampIDC - 511 days 7 hours ago

I'm sure all the devs will get their just rewards if the game is a success. The sales won't be groundbreaking, but I'm sure in the worst case they'll sell at least 3 million.

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Highwayman - 511 days 2 hours ago

You realize 3 million is a pretty good number, right? I think Gears of War sold around that or was it 4.5 million copies. MGS4 sold arounf the 3 million-5 million marker...3 million is pretty good.

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FPS nut - 511 days 4 hours ago

Funny watching PS3 fanboy, one who's only experiance with the game is N4G or Gametrailers try and give the game a score. Hey! lets play a game, it's called fill in the blanks.

T_ _ _ L <--- if you can guess that I'll give you an anti jealous cookie.

Back to reality... It would seem the positive buzz about this game is outweighing the anti PS3 train's bad, and is growing daily with each new preview and download of the demo.

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Montrealien - 511 days 8 hours ago

No, he said

(Now I've played it and, you know, it's a good game. It doesn't deserve a lot of that harsh criticism. But as soon as something starts it's very hard to turn the tide and pull it back again)

Did you read even it? this game is getting more and more positive Previews and Hype in the Forums. I`m buying it, a few people I know are buying it, and 95% of the people that hate it in comments sections and forums never even played it and are anonymous tools, like the ones that will dissagree with this comments without saying why. But if you play it and it ain`t for you, I can respect your opinion, I like it, and for me, that is all that matters.

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Jandre02 - 511 days 5 hours ago

Do you really expect him to say "Oh man, that demo was complete a$$." If he is talking about the game of course he is going to say its good. Did he say great or amazing?" Here's a rule of thumb when developers are discussing other developers' titles.

"I haven't played it"= Horrible

"Good" = Poor

"Great" = Good

"Amazing" = Great

"Epic" = Amazing

Lol. I'm sure someone somewhere said Lair was "good" as well.

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Montrealien - 511 days 2 hours ago

If that`s your scale, that`s your scale. And you know what? I know someone that said Lair was good....me.

Fact of the matter is, you commented on a title and never played this game and you let other people guide your opinion, you seem ok with that, I`m not. I like Too Human, like other people here and from what I am seing, most of the ones that don`t like it here have not even played it. I respect if you don`t like the game, try to respect that I do.

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Tmac - 511 days 5 hours ago

LOL.

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Jandre02 - 511 days 5 hours ago

How many people who aren't fanboys or have made new accounts have commented on how "AWESOMELY GOOD" Too Human is.

But really, this is just the backlash of Haze and Lair. It's fun to watch these Xbots who care more about bashing the PS3 than play games get a craptastic game of their own and gripe about how were being "too hard" on the title.

Too Human, to me, is just one less game the Xbots have in their lineup.

PS3 Exclusives this year 1.5/2 (MGS4 deserves a 1.5)

Xbox360 0/1.

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na2ru1 - 511 days 4 hours ago

Jenzo pretending we're still in the year 1998

i say 1998 because the controls and camera were not to last gens standard let alone this gen.

animation not even motion captureed in some parts lol.

unacceptable.

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FPS nut - 511 days 3 hours ago

You have no camera control on God of War, this at least gives you the ability to stop and look around, move the camera close and far back.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 511 days 2 hours ago

I wouldn't go as far as to say amazing but it's damn good and enough to make it a first day buy for me.

And FPS Nut just qwned with that God of War comment.

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Montrealien - 511 days 1 hour ago

Said generic fanboy number 152....

kidding aside, I respect you did not like it, but I must to inform you that your opinion is not the end all of gaming verdics, get over yourself.

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Obama - 510 days 21 hours ago

Check out the GT review of god of war 2. They gave a gold metal to whoever designed the camera since it never gets in your way. You only need to adjust your camera if it blocks your view; this is not the case of gow, so you don't need any control over it!

Have you bots even played gow?

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Montrealien - 511 days 2 hours ago

Well said. +bubble. I loved Heavenly Sword. This game does deserve a f air shake, like any game really.

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Highwayman - 511 days 1 hour ago

Peter molyneux is a legend. He doesn't think he is. It's everyone who isn't blind by their own ignorance and an almost religious type of loyalty to their console who thinks this. Just look at any respected opinions and you'll see that many do think he is a legend. Far more people think he is, than those who hold your biased opinion.
That alone speaks volumes.
Tell me what have you done in the gaming industry? What game have you developed? Must be easy to pass judgement of which you do not comprehend.

EDIT: At the phantom disagree, state why you disagree with me. Or is it that you have nothing to bring to the table because of your inability to argue.

"Worthless wannabe" "who only made a feeble game"

This sums up your argument, which is both worthless and feeble.
Apparently you're the tool.

Here is some advice, kid. Grow up. Peter molyneux is a great developer.
Kojima is a great developer. The reality is which both of them are in their own rights. Kojima is great for his storytelling abilities more than anything. Peter Molyneux is known best for his innovation and ideas. They both as developers bring something great to the table.

So your comment was childish at best. Insulting a gaming legend just makes you look...well..dumb.

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Wow, you call that a rebuttle? Your insults just go to show me that you've nothing to argue, you can't bring anything to the table, so you just rely on insults.
And why is it that you ignore my questions, incapable of answering them?

"worthless wannabe" again much lke your argument, and more like yourself, no?
Kojima is sucessful, as is Peter.
As I've said they both bring greatness with them. Anyone with an unbiased view can clearly see this.
Go on amuse me. Next time you post, post something worthwhile.
I am a noob, huh? Back it up, you need something to support your claim.

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LuHawk - 510 days 22 hours ago

kojima is a Hoe just like you

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