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Some bad news for PS3 owners hoping for some improvements in the graphics department for upcoming shooter BioShock. Publisher 2K Games has confirmed to VideoGamer.com that it's concentrating on matching, not bettering the visuals seen in the Xbox 360 version.
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MaximusPrime
- 527 days ago
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im not interested in the game but fair enough.
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its hard to make the graphics better for a system thats harder to dev for
to be honest
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It's also hard to make the graphics better when they were already just about top of the line.
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ape007
- 527 days ago
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is that your true thoughts
or just because of ps3 vs 360 bla,bla,bla
man will this people ever grow up
fantastic game
you'll be fully immersed into the world of bioshock
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Though it is easier to make the graphics better for the more powerful system.
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ape007
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tplarkin7
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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1.6 - The PS3 doesn't have a good record.
Ports on PS3 are often uglier and chuggier. We'll be lucky if it looks and plays the same.
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Tomdc
- 526 days 22 hours ago
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Gameplay > Graphics
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StephanieBBB
- 526 days 22 hours ago
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Can't understand what you people see in this game. I've been watching alot of gameplay footage of it and im not impressed of the graphics nor intrieged by the gameplay or story.
MGS4 has much better graphics than this and the gameplay is ten times more satisfying.
It feels like the only people that promotes this game is people that have bought this after halo 3 and if you compare those too I can understand why you think that Bioshock is the new revolution of gaming.
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- 526 days 21 hours ago
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the visuals were already good for me on the 360, the cinematography was brilliant, just concentrate on the the things we're not likely to notice, and keep adding to things in the background, cause that's where I'd rather the push the ps3. still going to be a first day buy for me.
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- 526 days 20 hours ago
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the Devs did say that the Graphics are about thee same but the Ps3 version is going to be in a high res.
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- 526 days 20 hours ago
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"Though it is easier to make the graphics better for the more powerful system."
I agree, the PS3 has more power to wield, but it doesn't work that way...it depends on the nature of the architecture of the system and dev familiarity with that architecture that determines quality of output; PS3 has new, unfamiliar architecture.
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JsonHenry
- 526 days 15 hours ago
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The game looked crazy good on the 360 already. On the PC it was mediocre at release compared to other PC games though..
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- 526 days 12 hours ago
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Bioshock, GTA IV and probably MGS4 (haven't played it yet)
are my favorite games of this gen and have my favorite storylines.
Bioshock was just brilliant and fun. For me, it was all about the exploration, and all the audio things you'd find were just amazing to find and listen to.
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paul_war
- 527 days ago
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2 - Oh well,
The better PS3 visuals for Bioshock argument was getting thrown arround a lot here, lets hope they can match the 360 version.
Even if it does come off worse this is still a great game, highly recomended.
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gw4k
- 527 days ago
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2.1 - I agree.....
If 2k can at least match the 360 graphics I think customers will be happy.
It is about time us PS3 owners have a game that looks as good as the 360!
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Jamie Foxx
- 527 days ago
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2.2 - @GW4K
do you actually realise how unintelligent your comment was?
guess youve never played uncharted,ratchet or MGS4 on your so called 'ps3'
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Yeah, saying PS3 hasn't had games looking as good as 360 games is just stupid. I'm sure the PS3 version will be on par with the 360, or maybe just very slightly lower if they have a little trouble with the development, but I doubt it'll be noticably different.
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hi-tower
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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2.4 - Lets push things forward...
Why are devs so scared of making a game as good as it can be? That surely is what everybody wants, lets push the boundaries, lets see exactly what is possible? Not hide behind these childish 'it will only be as good as'...'we can't make it any better than'...
When these comments come out it just sounds like they are simply out to rinse gamers...'We can't be bothered with this to be honest, just going to do the minimum we have to so no-one will complain too much, then get it out there and go have a bath in all our money.'
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badz149
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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I've expected something like this, hell it's like common sense! have anybody played Lost Planet PS3? they can only improve so much from the original of 360! why? it's not that the PS3 is not capable of doing better but really, why do they want to do that?? they don't even have to because the game itself is already highly acclaimed with the way it is! so, the smart thing to do is to make a successful port and add some extra and trophies to lure gamers to buy it on PS3 even if it's being released after more than a year later than the 360! polishing everything will cost more money and what's the point of making multiplat if you're going to churn out more money out of your pocket just to satisfy some whinning graphical whores? Bioshock is a GREAT game, period! I've played it on PC and it's higly recommended for all gamers! cheers!
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At this point, nobody really cares how "ports" look anymore. Gamers know that thee games are being ported from other machines and that isn't the most optimal way of "improving" visuals.
We all know that the first parties will be the ones to take full advantage of the systems hardware, it shouldn't come to a surprise that these other 3rd parties won't make the effort to push the hardware.
Still a good title going to the Playstation 3 with additional content built-in.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. As long as this port isn't unplayable and ugly as sin, I'll definitely be venturing in to Rapture.
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ChampIDC
- 526 days 21 hours ago
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No need for another Orange Box...that's for sure. I think PS3 owners wouldn't complain much if the graphics end up slightly toned down somehow as long as the game isn't broken.
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yea guys even with worse graphics its still probably the best game on the ps3. It is the single best game I have played in over 10 years. Amazing work of art.
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i bet he played on different TV at different res. I played it through 3 times and never noticed the jaggies he speaks of.
If it looks the same or better who cares, still a gorgeous game on both systems.
The water, lighting and other effects havent been beaten on any game. And i loved the syling of the whole thing, as you say, it was art.
The story and gameplay is even better than the graphics, PS3 owners are in for a treat.
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i forgot to lay a dead sheep in front of your cave this morning,
i'll never forget it again so you dont need to come out again.
now back to the cave
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thewhoopimen
- 526 days 20 hours ago
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4.3 - @socomnick
I've played Bioshock on my friends 360 and while I found it immersive, I thought there would be alot more uses of the touted 'water' in the underwater city besides mini-floods and dousing out fire/conducting electricity on enemies. Frankly, Socomnick after comparing water effects of bioshock and then showing my buddy uncharted water effects (going up the river on a jetski) there wasn't much to say that hasn't been done already on the PS3 side. The gameplay is fun but distinctively PC-ish. The graphics looks like it's supposed to be run on your PC rig. Storywise, it is pretty good that you discover the mysteries behind rapture, but with the spawn points, the game was too easy and the "horror" element was greatly diminished.
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coolfool
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5 - hang on a minute
Didn't this guy just go on a rant about how great the visuals now are for the PS3 verion?
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
How could he have seen all that when in actual fact they are the same?
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Mr_Showtime1
- 527 days ago
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even bigger than that, is this developer said they where improving them...
http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-...
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Yeah, i found that strange too.
Well, i guess i`ll see how it turns out when the reviews are in then (if they`re consistent that is). A stable framerate is more important than improving the visuals for me, not that a visual upgrade wouldn`t be appreciated though ;)
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cmd5150
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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5.3 - Coolfool, you are right...
I saw the interview on X-play last night and one of the developers stated that they were able to enhance some of the visuals over the 360 version.
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coolfool
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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either the websites are posting inaccurate reports or the devs are contradicting themselves....... i guess we will really see when the game is reviewed and released.
In my opinion though, I think the devs would be missing an opportunity by not even attempting to improve visuals to create one, a nice selling feature, and two, make an excellent game as good as it possibly could be.
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That's why multi plat games suck..they always have to tone them down to match 360. I'm not saying this game is going to suck..I'm talking graphically when they could be so much better then 360.
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socomnick
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What are you talking about. The xbox 360 version came out a long time ago. They have only been working on the ps3 version therefore it should have had a graphical boost. It seems like they are struggling to get it to even match the xbox 360s graphics.
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Dark vader
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no it seems that you are just making assumption and don't know nothing, that what it seems like.
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don,t think bioshock devs want to bragg but psu said it was hands down better so take it as you will
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Regardless of anything, Bioshock is still one of the best looking 360 games. Even if the visuals aren't improved it will still look amazing.
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10 - It's says it will look just as good.
We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. But developers are getting pretty good with PS3 hardware these days.
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ape007
- 527 days ago
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it looks fantastic
buy it day 1 sony oweners
this game has both
GRAPHICS+GAMEPLAY
IT WILL ROCK YOU
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Hell, bad news? I'm just glad its coming.
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message to videogamer.com: psu.com disagrees with you
http://www.n4g.com/News-173...
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message to you: Videogamer > PSU
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Keep in mind the power of suggestion on perception, the possibility of bias on a platform-specific website, and the general unreliability of visual accounts. If the PSU editor started giving specific ways in which one version looks better, I'll be more inclined to believe him.
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devilhunterx
- 526 days 23 hours ago
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isnt videogamer.com very anti-ps3?
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titntin
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"isnt videogamer.com very anti-ps3?"
always appeared that way to me, yes.
But they are quoting a small snippet of one producer who sounds like she's doing her best to be 'politic' about it all. Hard to be sure without hearing the question and the entire response.
Only way we'll know the truth is when more objective observers have had a chance to play the PS3 code.
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my point was: we can't just read an article and believe every word it says.
also, something i've noticed on this site that is getting worse: if a story comes out favoring the 360, then within a couple hours a retaliatory story comes out saying something bad about it. same if reversed. like here. i read a story from psu about how graphics are looking better; and within 1.5 hrs there is this story. it really is getting old.
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guys don't turn this into a kiddy fanboyish fight
the game rocks
2k is working hard
while you just fighting like kids
seriously
are you GAMERS
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FANBOYS
THIS WILL NEVER END
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vega75
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. bu bu bu the power of the cell.
i just had to do it one time.
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Mr PS3
- 526 days 22 hours ago
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1.1 - Come Back Butt Nuggett
When the 360 get's Visuals
That Come anywhere near as close to MGS4,Killzone 2,Resistance2,Uncharted to name a few
You see the thing is Bioshock in the Visual deptartment is as good as it gets on the 360
And 2k say " they are concentrating on matching, not bettering the visuals seen in the Xbox 360 version. "
So you see
They could easy better the Visuals but are having to try so much harder not to
Maybe they don't want to upset Microsoft and all the Inbred Bots like yourself
I say screw Micosoft and the Bots
They are already Upset
Because they own an Xbox
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Much Better in terms of Graphics.
They just they wont say it u RETARD Xbots.
If they Did Say BS on PS3 is graphically Better Then the Xbox 2 DVD9 based/ Ram dependent version then they would Have Just Proved the PLAYSTATION 3 is SUPIOR to the Xbox.
fact! but please bots spin away~till u puke
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Muahahahahahahaha ! 2k wont bother with the console of infidels !
PS2.5 is the work of satan ! die u satan lovers u infidels !
X360 FTW !
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- 526 days 19 hours ago
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wow so many multiple accounts.
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Ali_The_Brit
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LMAO omg your stupid, remember kiddy- gameplay>graphics
So basicly where getting a game that matches the graphics of the 360 version PLUS exlusive DLC and added gameplay that you will never see
How is this not superior?
Poor xbot all the gaylo 3 has made you even more stupid than you where when you first bought your cardboard box
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Isaac
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4.2 - Do not bother with him, Ali
Apparently, he was born in 2001.
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Poor xbot. Can't even string a coherent sentence together. :(
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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi
- 526 days 22 hours ago
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4.4 - @juuKEN KEN Ninja KEN ;)
I can string a coherent sentence together...
'The xBox 360 is dying!!!' ;-D
Good in'it!!!;)
+Did anyone see that 8 minute 'KillZone 2' video the other day???
The way that Building Blew-up was F**KING JAW-DROPPING!!! ;-P
Only Possible on...
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What was the DLC for the 360 in the first place?
And I remember in an interview that the guys said there won't be any huge improvement over 360, content-wise. Maybe a gun or two. Another character. Who knows?
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@Ali_The_Brit - I thought that graphics were so much important to you than gameplay? As you always bash 360 games for their graphics.. But, not a single word from you on the gameplay..
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lol once again the s**t S3 shows just how inferior it is to the mighty 360. Its not that 2k games wont make the visuals better its that the inferior ps3 hardware wont allow it.
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poos3 why do you have like 4 accounts?
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'KILLZONE 2' BABY!!! ;-P
That kills any game on Visuals!!! ;-P
+The xBot RATS are out in force today!!! ;-D
What p*ssed them off??? Maybe it's the falling sales of their out of date Console!!! ;-D
Nice try...all that PS3 bashing DIDN'T WORK, you lot look Stupid now...Never mind... ;-D
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ur an infidel ! Killing is forbidden ! it's the work of satan !
killzone 2 is a killing simulator designed by satan and his friends !
UR AN INFIDEL ! DIE !
X360 FTW !
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King Kaz
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7.2 - Emperor Kutaragi!
How good to see you again, old friend! The Xbot RAT PIGS do sound a little angry today- it must be hard owning such a GIGANTIC FLOP of a console!
MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!
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@King Kaz and Sir Kutaragi
We must combine our PS3 powers!Sony Defense Force Activate Muahahahahahahahaha!
Burn with the RROD!HAahahahaha!!!!
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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi
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7.4 - @King Kaz ;)
Yes i'm still on this Sh*t site!!! ;-D
(Well the site is ok, but the Lies the xBot Lemmings and Micro$luts put and say on this is Cr*p) :-/
Very glad to see you back my good Friend;)
We have been Defending the PS3+SONY for you on this, while you are perfecting your Master plan for World Domination!!!(And it's COMING!!!)
;-P
@Lord Shuhei Yoshida ;) Yes Blu-ray of DEATH erm Ray at the ready!!! LET IT RIP!!!!!! ;-D
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why do droids cry
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little kids... well what do expect.
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Ahaha. Look, the 3 butt buddies(Ken, Kaz, Shuhei Yoshida.) are bout to have another orgy!
But, seriously, you three really need to grow up some. With the stuff you type on here, just shows us all how old you really are.
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8 - Oh no!
This is the first time I saw someone bashed PS3 so blatantly. Anyway, it's not really Sony to blame here, it's 2K. I think adding new contents is the contest here, not the graphics. If they make the graphics more beautiful, then they might as well focus on Bioshock 2 for the PS3. Anyway, KZ2 is gonna be sick. Multiplayer=combination of TF2 and FFXI.
Some people really can't deny by bashing PS3 games that Sony is proving their worth. In 2 more years, Sony will prevail. Don't you haters forget that.
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- 526 days 22 hours ago
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Now the only thing you have is a grill.Hahahaha
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caffman
- 526 days 21 hours ago
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9.2 - I prefer a grill
to a dust gatherer
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why do droids cry
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lord yoshi just got OWNED BIG TIME
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um, isn't it SUPPOSED to match the 360 version?, I agree with this article, because I wouldn't think 2K Games would put too much effort into it, as they would of made it look alot better on PS3....
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Torch
- 526 days 22 hours ago
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10.1 - @Varsarus
"um, isn't it SUPPOSED to match the 360 version"
OMG...having to scroll down an endless ocean of lame troll bashing attempts to finally find the only comment with some sensibility.
I've gotta say though...after a over half-year of owning this gem of a game, I FINALLY started playing it last night, and I've gotta admit that I'm hard-pressed to believe that even my mighty, beloved PS3 can match the OUTSTANDING visuals I was subject to last night!
FYI: Currently playing it on the XBox 360...you know: the single reliable "Superior Super Duper Elite" version....
Oh...some of you may know it by it's industry name:
"Intel Core 2 Quad with NVidia GeForce chipset".
(XBox 360 exclusivity, my ass.)
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did the psu get caught lying? i think they just did.
http://www.psu.com/BioShock...
As for the details while moving within the city of Rapture, they’re greatly improved as well. I couldn’t believe my own eyes at the clarity and crispness that BioShock on the PS3 was displaying on screen. I think the 360 version looked absolutely spectacular, but this version almost makes the 360’s version look a tad underachieving.
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karlostomy
- 526 days 20 hours ago
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11.1 - Yeh Dude, the irony is astounding
They also said this load of crap:
"If I’m being bluntly honest, the game looks exponentially better on the PlayStation 3 than it does on the 360."
WTF? Looks like it was just another wish-fulfilment fantasy that plagues a surprising number of ps3 fans.
Oh heck. Let's just call it a blatant LIE!
Here's the truth:
"Publisher 2K Games has confirmed to VideoGamer.com that it's concentrating on matching, not bettering the visuals seen in the Xbox 360 version. "
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12 - hey alteast
we get medals
opps
i mean awards
opps
i mean achievments
opps
*this is open zone
trouhpys are sooooo much cooler then getting some MS points
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caffman
- 526 days 21 hours ago
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12.1 - and spelling
is better than not being able too
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13 - well obviosly its not going to have improved visuals.
The 360 version is holding the ps3 version back. They cant make the game better looking on the PS3 version, it would make little xbots cry like little school girls. Dont really care if it doesn't have improved visuals. this games graphics are good enough.
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14 - @ PimpHandHappy
oh.. we already got achievements with our copy since last year. nice try. you get a F for failed. and what makes trophies better. you can lvl up from idiot to @sshole.LMFAO
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haha so now it is all about visuals?...last week...when Killzone 2 was wrecking EVERYTHING...you backflippers whined about 'visuals are not everything...it will probably play like shat'...but now...its back to if the visuals are not better, its not a better version...
whatever...its UE3...even if they did improve the visuals a bit, it wouldn't hold a candle to most of the 1st party exclusives the PS3 has...so why even bother?...
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17 - Its just a port
If they were to beef up Bioshocks graphics on the POS3. Then your frame rate would suffer tremendously. just like alot of your 3rd party games. you guys will get some new content like new tonics and plasmids though.
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The original xbox was a glorified Pentium 3 computer with modified USB ports as controller ports (I've done some xbox modding before) The 360 is a glorified Directx-9 based PC, hence why Valve loves the 360 (it's like programing a 2004 PC game, like HL:2 for example)
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Uh I watched a G4 preview where they interviewed 2k Marin and they said the opposite of this article, weird.
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It is still amazing how devs are not being honest about PS3's abilities. They let the hype live to sell a game that will be a year old on the competitions console.
Could you imagine what the Killzone 2 engine would look like on the 360(or if the KZ2 devs made an engine for the 360).
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