Infinite Undiscovery to come on two DVDs

Mike Bowden - 542 days 21 hours ago

It's news because it's very unusual 360 games come on more than one disc.

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hardmetal - 542 days 21 hours ago

No, it's news because it only uses 2 discs while the title says infinite.

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Chubear - 542 days 18 hours ago

It's a game that uses cell shading type graphics. This must mean the game is very long in length or they're trying to not exclude those with no HDD in their 360, which the latter is likely... but rotflmao at 2 discs for a cell shaded game though.

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gaffyh - 542 days 15 hours ago

It's relevant because of the whole "Blu-Ray is needed for current gen games" argument. But I'm kinda glad that it is on two discs because atleast that means the game will be longer (than Too Human/Mass Effect), but it's also kinda annoying cos the graphics (in the recent gameplay video) aren't great.

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Cryos - 542 days 12 hours ago

But but but but.........

DVDs have enough space for current gen games!

All kidding aside, I'm not a RPG fan so this doesn't affect me at all. Truthfully, right now that's probably the only genre that will need more than 1 dvd

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jadenkorri - 542 days 12 hours ago

its not the first game ever to go multi disc, i believe ff7, was more than two...and theirs a very large list, so who cares, its two discs, what, this shocking 2 discs gonna make MS bring blu ray to 360, it would be a big mistake on MS part if they did, if you think about it, devs start making 360 games that use blu ray disc, which means anyone wanting to play the game would have to either go buy another 360 with blu ray, or possibly an add-on blu ray drive, and im sure you all love buying add ons.. in the end, it would be a big slap in the face to all 360 users... this is console gaming, not pc....so when the ps3 gets a game thats 2 discs, whats gonna happen then..

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Some_One_Plays - 542 days 7 hours ago

Final Fantasy VII was on the PlayStation not the PlayStation 3, in other words two generation ago.

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jadenkorri - 542 days 5 hours ago

i never said ff7 was on ps3, i was just giving an example of a game that was multi disc, dunno why people are making a big stink about an 360 game going 2 disc..

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pwnsause - 542 days 3 hours ago

"But but but but.........

DVDs have enough space for current gen games!

All kidding aside, I'm not a RPG fan so this doesn't affect me at all. Truthfully, right now that's probably the only genre that will need more than 1 dvd"

Does Forza 3 and MLB 2k8 ring any bells?

At the end of the day, its an RPG, so i can take that into consideration

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mistertwoturbo - 541 days 22 hours ago

2 Is not that bad.

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Some_One_Plays - 541 days 16 hours ago

To me anyways it's the fact that it's guaranteeing linear play making the game design limited. They have two choices make a rich looking game on one disc or tone down everything so it can be on two discs. So far I haven't seen a beautiful looking game that runs on two or more discs. Mass Effect is one disc and so is Bioshock.

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monks - 542 days 21 hours ago

i don't know is it possible to port

who owns the ip etc and it has always been a 360 exclusive

which is a shame i love all SE games but i cant play this one as i no longer have a 360

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SixTwoTwo - 542 days 20 hours ago

SqEx owns the IP. Microsoft originally wanted to publish the game and obtain the IP rights but SqEx backed out and decided to publish the game themselves. They essentially left the door open for a PS3 version when the game inevitably underperforms on the 360 platform.

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tudors - 542 days 20 hours ago

maybe you would prefer to go here http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

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Mike Bowden - 542 days 21 hours ago

Who said it was a big deal

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Jenzo - 542 days 20 hours ago

PS3 fanboys?

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wallace1000 - 542 days 11 hours ago

Good work Jenzo. Last time i checked i really enjoyed playing Baldur's Gate 2 back in the day on PC. That was on 5 discs i believe and that wasn't a pain in the butt. 2 DVDs is definitely ok.

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Auron - 542 days 20 hours ago

as long as it plays as long as its hd I could care less if its on 5 discs, 1 blu-ray or 1000 VHS tapes! ok I guess I'd care about the VHS tapes.

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pumpkinpunker - 542 days 19 hours ago

a 15 minute install or a 10 second disc change? both formats have their drawbacks. the blu-ray is too slow to run straight from the disc without an install and the dvd doesn't have enough space and requires multiple discs for 2 games so far this generation.

anyway, who cares. I find it funny that Sony fanboys make a disc change such a big deal. shows us how desperate they are for relevance. I guess they just like to wait: wait while their games install, wait for their PSN firmware updates, wait for their franchise titles, wait for the cows to come home, etc. gives them a lot of time to troll N4G forums.

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agentace - 542 days 18 hours ago

how is the blu-ray to slow so it needs install, it doesn`t need installs its just easyer for devs...uncharted has no install and thats th best looking console game out so far

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jessupj - 542 days 7 hours ago

It's because 360 fanboys kept saying 'You don't need bluray!!!!' When cleary in this situation you do. No it's not that big of a deal and a 10 second disk change isn't much to cry about, but it's still an annoyance and still shouldn't be happening.

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tudors - 542 days 20 hours ago

Totally agree.

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sajj316 - 542 days 19 hours ago

Think about it though Kat .. good to debate with you again. Firmware issues can be resolved. Changing Discs and the limitation with DVD9 can not. I do agree that two discs is no big deal. Even 4 discs are no big deal. Whats the breaking point? 6, 8, 10 discs? When looking at the opposite end of the spectrum, I do agree that HD installations are getting a little out of hand. While I do see the benefit, its become a standard for some of the more high profile games. I hope that future PS3 games do not require such lofty HD requirements. Even that is a work in progress with developers. Can you say the same for space requirements for future games? This is the Xbox 360 achilles heel.

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kewlkat007 - 542 days 19 hours ago

How was your vaca from the dark pits/cespools of n4g?

On topic:

Well only time will tell if games really get up to 5-10 DVDs. I think that would be a little of an exaggeration with 10 DVD's though. We are totally neglecting "compression technologies/techniques".

What is it, are we really talking about here.

(Hrs put into a game)
(Hrs it takes to complete)
(Amount of content stored on the disc as opposed to one disc)
(Types of games that may require multiple disk)

-Lost Odyssey was around 80Hrs to complete with every things and such though I put much more into it, since I really like disk(4-disc game)

-Oblivion was a game you could put 100+ Hrs into and that was on 1 disk and the world was Huge(if you ask me).

1. Basically because a game is on the competition BD disc doesn't mean the Game will be any longer. Given them Examples.

2. Yeah you can store more content on bigger disk such as a BD but depending on the type of game, it will bear no difference in time played or length of game.(I have not seen it)

3. To tell you the truth, I think HD installs are going to be the trend. I do not think it is going to go away. The benefits out weight the extra work the devs could do to alleviate the installs all together or at least cut them down. It's a fact Storing texures and such on the HDD reaps benefits. (Take it from the PC-Model, it's noting new)

4. Can't you see that's the direction consoles are going, they are becoming like computers and accepting the same models. Just not scalable when a new GPU comes out..etc..lol

5. As for the Xbox 360 well, I ws reading somewhere that some game might require an install.(not sure if it was true), but it's wait to be seen with the HD-less 360 out there and what MS does with the production of it's games.(after all none of this effects me)

6. but the "space requirements for future games" could be 3-5 years from now. In 3 years the 360 will be like 7 years old. Sony plays to it's hardware lasting 10 years bu tMS plays to the latest technology every 5-7 years.

By that time you think we will not see a new Xbox 360 with 100GB Optical disc and 500GB HDD ?

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Glad to be a gamer - 542 days 18 hours ago

NOOOOOO! Im gonna have to get up and changea disc instead of waiting 15 mins for a 4gig install or waiting 2-4 mins for an act/level to load ala Mgs4.

I think some Ps3 fans really want anything to justify chooisng a Ps3 over a 360 or reasons to not get a 360. Rrod is still brought up time and time again as well as dreaded mutli disc games.

I have had my 360 for a 1 1/2 years and no problems to date and with the 3 year warranty/new mother boards/chips this since late last year this is a thing of the past.

As for the disc space i have still not seen gaming wise why Br is needed or in fact better for games. The read times are just to slow to really push the advantage of having more capacity. Bigger disc size but less space on your hard drive due to installs or more waiting around for levels to load on to the Ps3 ram.

But i guess a fighting game/driving game may come out that shows us why Br is an advantage ie one disc necessary for these type of games. But so far although Gtp looks great the lack of crash damage and inability to run smoothly online not to mention barren enviroments(except london which can not be raced online) has not made a believer yet.

Both consoles this year are desirable but this is how i see it when cp the media used for each.

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nirwanda - 542 days 17 hours ago

Disk size is only a problem with FMV which is why only RPG's have been multi disk games so far as it's hard to compress effectively.

If you go and watch the fable 2 docs one of them states that there compression technique they use compresses the raw data down to less than 1% of it's original size this has several advantages over disk size

1 the data streams from the disk 100x faster
2 the game world can be 100x more detailed
3 you can probably fit about 500gig on a dvd9

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tordavis - 542 days 13 hours ago

You've been added to my bubbles forever list.

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wallace1000 - 542 days 11 hours ago

Good post dude. I think the only people that multiple discs will bother are lazy people.

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devilhunterx - 542 days 6 hours ago

M$ was stupid. They should have removed the DVD drive and put a floppy disc. Cause you know, XB2 fans dont mind the fun disc swapping exercise. Its almost like WiiFit for them

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mistertwoturbo - 541 days 22 hours ago

I rented Lost Odyssey and it was just too boring for me. Looking foward to trying out this game though.

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mistertwoturbo - 541 days 22 hours ago

Glad to be a Gamer

Another "I'm not biased but deep down in my soul I hate sony" guy.

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kewlkat007 - 542 days 18 hours ago

Remember them days..Still the Best FF have been 4-disc, imagine that..

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dcbronco - 542 days 17 hours ago

The era of huge games is long gone for the most part. For 50GBs of space MGS 4 got 10 hours of gameplay. 10-12 Hours is about as huge as it's going to get unless somebody comes up with a way to make development cheaper. Or EA stops paying overtime again. RPGs will be the only exception.

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kewlkat007 - 542 days 19 hours ago

....Read my reply to sajj316 above and you'll see it all depends on the game.

How big and how open was oblivion and it came on 1 disc. I'm not sure what the average was for LO but I put lots of hours into it.

For an jRPG game beating the game without "sidequest" and "extra missions" and without acquiring every "item", "spells", and "magic", you could easily cut-down the length of time of play.

MGS4 is 50 Gigs(Un-compressed) and as you can see for the type of game it is, it can be beat in less then 10 hrs.

IT DEPENDS ON THE GAME.

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heihoosilver - 541 days 20 hours ago

LO has a lot of FMV, thats why it needs 4 discs.

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kewlkat007 - 542 days 18 hours ago

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KRUSSIDULL - 542 days 16 hours ago

On disc 4 you can acces all previous places you been at so thats strange isnt it? I belive the cutscenes most have taken alot of space? I completed the game today took me 60 hours and i think i need to go back to get all the achievements now..

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CyberSentinel - 542 days 20 hours ago

Seriously...get off you fat @ss an put in disc 2.

I'm sure it's bloated with lots of CGI, instead of In-Game Engine motions, which would solve the issue.

Fat Lemmings, Do Some WiiXercises.

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Pain - 542 days 14 hours ago

Instal on PS3 are the XBOX 2's fault , if the games wernt heldback from what that can be on BLU-RAY thx to inferior DVD9 there WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.

face it, Blu-ray is the Future for Movies and Games.

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CyberSentinel - 542 days 11 hours ago

It seems you like to follow me around, kind of like a little child, looking up to her Big Daddy. What you said does not even make sense.

In-Game Engine Models can be used to illustrate a storyline in a game, and would use ALOT less disk space. CGI looks great, and if they want to use multiple disks, I have no problem with that.

Anyway, I really shouldn't be speaking with minors, so I'm going to have end this conversation now. Maybe when/if you mature you will be able to comprehend what I said.

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BLUR111 - 542 days 10 hours ago

Blu-ray the future of games lol, blu ray has nothing to do with games unless less gameplay with more cinematics. PAIN go back to your emo music and pink hair.

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The Goulet - 542 days 7 hours ago

Rims, although fanboyish in his comment brings up a very valid point. How much content really did get cut from this game? How much content is cut from MANY games to fit onto a DVD9 for the 360?? Really makes you wonder just how much the 360 is holding back the next-generation of gaming.

Goulet

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syanara - 542 days 3 hours ago

its worse than installing because you need to place most the same game data on disk 2 plus installing speeds the game up not to mention it cost more to manufacture two disc so whats really betyter letting a gasme install for 5 minutes making the game faster or having the company spend money to manufacture two disc and cut out lots of content?

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CyberSentinel - 541 days 17 hours ago

Perhaps you are unaware, therefore I will be kind and assume you are uninformed. Blank Blu-ray disks and DVD media do not cost the same. I can buy a stack of 100 blank DVD's for $25. On the other hand 1 blank blu-ray disk will cost you about same price.

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waseem335 - 542 days 18 hours ago

id rather hav no/minimum annoyin loadz screens

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b777conehead - 542 days 13 hours ago

the install is a one time deal. where you have to change disk any time it ask you to.

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syanara - 542 days 3 hours ago

what about re-play value? and what if a game like a racing game has two disk? how would that work i mean cirtain tacks on opne disk and different ones on the other?

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b777conehead - 541 days 14 hours ago

hey noob your the dumb ass . when the game needs something from the second disk its going to ask you to insert the other disk. yea you might play half thru then agasin you may not. but a one time instal is it i can sit on my couch and not have to get up to change a disk. your a dumbass for wanting to have to get up to change the disk

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Gabe323 - 542 days 11 hours ago

Metal Gear Solid 4

I'm pretty sure I had to install the game data before playing and then sit and wait 3 minutes a few times between acts for even more installs.

There was also still plenty of loading. What's the big deal about getting up and swapping a disc when it will only take a minute?

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liquidsnake - 542 days 10 hours ago

Easy guys, I'm not a 13 year old kid. I have patience, I can wait for installs as well as changing disks. Non of it bothers me at all.

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ThatCanadianguy420 - 542 days 12 hours ago

And it's a one time deal anyways."20 minutes instals"
yeah,your real cleaver arent you.

And who care's about the Gb's? for a cheap 99$ i could have a 250GB HDD in my PS3.

So i dunno ...hmm..let me think about it..

A single disc with no lighting,physics,graphics cut.
No code flow issues,With a single install.

Vs Switching disc's hours after you beat the first one.
And long loading times,as 360 is semi-famous for

I.E lost oddesy,oblivion,mass effect. etc.

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juuken - 542 days ago

In your dreams xturd.

Nice way of avoiding the issue! You can tell the 360 is a last gen console because of that. I haven't done disk swapping since I had my very first Playstation 1 and 2. It may have good online service and software but Microshaft here just...shafted you guys. So make fun of the installs but they are a hell of a LOT better than swapping disks.

And I'm not really lazy but like I said, this is last gen!

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karlostomy - 541 days 5 hours ago

Here you are again defending SONY like you are on their payroll.

My question is this:

If I want to play any multiplat game that is currently available, which console will it run better on 99% of the time?

yep. the 360

Which console charges you an extra $200 for the priviledge of playing inferior multiplats?

yep. the ps3.

Does that seem a bit weird? You would think the PS3 with its price premium and extra wifi, bluray, cell etc would TROUNCE the competition.

Smell the coffee, juuken.

By the way, the quantity and idiocy of your trollish fanboy comments leads me to conclude you are THE NEW NASIM.

Welcome back NASIM.

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ThatCanadianguy420 - 540 days 1 hour ago

wha wha wha??!?!

games looks better on 360?

maybe the 360 built Multiplat games,even so..

GTA IV looks better on PS3,runs better & less loading times.

Grid looks better on PS3,runs better & less loading times.

Even oblivion (still looks like 360 quality) but less loading times.

EVEN cod4 looks better,less loading times.

Assasins creed,looks & runs better,less loading time.

DMC4 looks and runs better,less loading time.

And i bet you anything bioshock on PS3 will look ATLEAST twice as good as it did on 360,with LESS loading time.

*takes a cheap shot at his bubbles*

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