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Gears of War 2's active sniper will not insta-down

Xbox360fanboy writes:

The one and only Cliff Bleszinski popped up on the NeoGAF forums where the latest video of Gears of War 2 was being discussed, to clarify the Longshot sniper's abilities. Responding to a remark claiming that "active downs with the Longshot are still existent in Gears 2", Cliff denied the claim, stating that the Longshot will not have insta-down abilities in Gears 2.
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Published: 550 days 11 hours ago | News | Xbox 360
 
 

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BrotherSic - 550 days 11 hours ago
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Guess you have to believe him but it did seem to be a down in the leaked videos.
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HoNgKoNgPh0oEy - 550 days 7 hours ago
1.1 - Change
Because it is impossible they could of changed anything after the beta because developers never do that.
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Condoleezza Rice - 550 days 11 hours ago
2 - I don't know
If a person can properly reload AND Snipe you within a very short time frame,I think the insta-down should be the reward.

Anyway,I doubt people will be Sniping as much in GeOW 2,especially with the Flame Thrower and a bunch of other new Weapons thrown in.
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TheSadTruth - 550 days 5 hours ago
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hitting someone with a body shot takes NO skill

headshotting takes skill

they are doing the right thing
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Exile__ - 550 days 11 hours ago
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There was a active sniper insta-down in one of the videos.. BS cliffy
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name - 550 days 11 hours ago
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Sniper rifles should only be one hit kills in games if it hits in the chest and up. If you can shoot someone in the leg and kill them they'll complain about and it'll be hard to get around them.
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monkey602 - 550 days 11 hours ago
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Active longshot downs arent such a bad thing. And if they didnt exist in GeOW 1 the "eye spy with my little eye" achievement would be impossible
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PimpHandHappy - 550 days 11 hours ago
6 - yea
in real life a Barret.50 Sniper Rifle could hit you in the leg from a mile and your day would be over!

~~rubbing chin~~

Shooting off limbs online would be fun

lol
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PureGamer - 550 days ago
6.1 -
nah you wouldent. It would do some damage but it would not straight off kill you.
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tudors - 549 days 23 hours ago
6.2 - LOL pimp....
Yes but this isn't real life it's a game.

Puregamer he is right about in real life it would still possibly kill you, when a bullet hits a bone instead of going through it travels along it, many people who have been killed by a gun shot have been 1st hit in the leg bone and then it will travel up the leg to the arteries.
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PureGamer - 549 days 23 hours ago
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yes i know that but thats not gonna happen everytime. Even if it did hit the bone theres no telling where it would go, a straight 1 shot 1 kill is unlikely.
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mastercheese179 - 549 days 16 hours ago
6.4 - yea
Yea if a .50 cal hit you you wouldnt be getting up
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liquidsnake - 549 days 12 hours ago
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lol there is no "traveling along your bones" if you're hit with a .50 cal. You can shoot smaller airplanes with that thing. you hand/leg would be amputated and you would have died from shock and blood loss.
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v1c1ous - 550 days 11 hours ago
7 - I don't agree in taking out instant down w/ sniper
a sniper shot is only one shot. unlike having an entire active clip on the lancer or shotgun shells, you can't spam bullets with a sniper rifle.

what would be the point of having an active sniper rifle shot do w/o being able to instant-down? it would just be a sniper shot that does a tad more damage. a regular sniper shot to the head is already instant kill.

so there would be no incentive to do active reload other than faster reload on a sniper if the person that was hit could dive for cover after being hit.

i would not mind doing it as a system where if you get hit with an active rifle in your body and not your legs/arms it would be instant down. but taking it out entirely is dumb.
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v1c1ous - 550 days 10 hours ago
7.1 - for those who don't understand
active reload is a technique in Gears where you press the reload button on a sliding bar. by timing your reload correctly, you can get a damage boost to your ammo clip. the damage boost is big enough to cause an instant knockdown with the sniper rifle. while a headshot with the sniper is always instant kill, a shot anywhere else will not knockdown. it will do a lot of damage, but that would be enough for the sniper to take out a handgun and take 3-4 pot shots to knock you down, but you still have a chance to run away/get cover. with an active reload, a shot ANYWHERE other than the head (instant'kill regardless of active or not) will automatically cause a knockdown.

depending on the game mode, you either a) have to wait for a teammate to pick you up, b) bleed to death c) have to wait x amount of seconds to get back up

in the case of c), the problem some people complain about is that in the time your character is recovering from the knockdown, the sniper can active reload again and basically knock you down as soon as you get up. in most game modes, you can only get up twice, with the 3rd knockdown being instant death for you.

so a lot of snipers will toy with you as you are getting up and can't do much. unless 1) your teammate gets you up before the sniper gets the active 2) your teammate engages the sniper causing him to move attention away from you 3) the sniper misses the active reload or misses your body.
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socomnick - 550 days 10 hours ago
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Instand down in gears of war 1 is annoying because the snipers just run away when you go to fight them. They run away until they can instant down you and then boom hs. Glad there will be no active reload downs in gears of war 2. Maybe now they will actually try to be skilled and aim for the head.
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NewShadow101 - 550 days 10 hours ago
7.3 - Its just me but...
i only go for headshots, its the weapon of my choice =] if i accidentally down them then ill let them get back up and go at me again. i agree with you socomnick. they get annoying, i dont run though, i fight in close combat with the snipe. im giving you good feedback =]
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Sayai jin - 550 days 10 hours ago
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Does not matter to me. I still hve my Torque Bow and I can gaurantee a one hit KILL, LOL!....
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BLUR111 - 550 days 9 hours ago
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true, the torque Bow is better it will kill with one good shot even if it hits the enemys foot lol
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v1c1ous - 549 days 21 hours ago
8.2 - WRONG!
Getting stuck with a torque bow is a 99% chance of dying.

don't tell me you have never been stuck with a torque, pressed the button for cover, and come out unscathed when it blew up?
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Sayai jin - 549 days 18 hours ago
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Yeah sure that happens, if you consider a glitch in the game legit. When the game is working correctly I can gaurantee a one shot kill. Come on, I welcome you, it'll be fun :)
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BLUR111 - 549 days 14 hours ago
8.4 - @8.2
No, when that happens its just a animation glitch
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SDS Gamerfiend - 550 days 8 hours ago
9 - Nice!
Now all those g@y @ss people who do it cuz they have no skill won't be able to do it any more!
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blindfromthesun - 550 days 6 hours ago
10 - If there was ever a cheap weapon...the Boom Shot
I absolutely hate this weapon. In single player, the boom shot seems underpowered. In multiplayer, you can shoot a meter away from someones foot and kill them instantly (perhaps a slight exaggeration). Way too powerful. A shot to the chest should kill you instantly but a shot at the feet or while your behind cover shouldn't. I hope they "nerf" the weapon a little or add better hit detection.
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iggypop123 - 550 days 6 hours ago
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anything to make snipers less powerful and make them work more is fine with me. i hate those cowards that just run away . if they do that ill just camp against the camper and let it be a draw to piss them off
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allexx_2 - 549 days 22 hours ago
11.1 - i disagree...
Being a sniper does not make you a coward at all. I personally enjoy being a sniper in any game that allows it, since i love taking people out from afar and seeing their head come off. It's all in player preference i suppose.....i don't mind going run & gun style either even though I personally think that takes no skill at all. Just pure luck. Oh and if u would do that, I would just come and look for you w/ my sniper and get a no scope head shot on you(love doing that). Each to his own i guess.
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Havince - 550 days 3 hours ago
12 - i hope
it IS taken out. i see noobs all the time jumping and firing it so they can get the active, theyr not even firing a shot at a person missing THEN getting the active
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allexx_2 - 549 days 22 hours ago
12.1 - sorry i disagreed on you so a bubble for u :D
I do agree on those noobs though, wasting a good round which could of been used to get a head shot or at least hit the person and then put some pistol rounds after to down the guy.
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PureGamer - 550 days ago
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Thanks Cliffy b i hate it when noobs just aim for your body and down you. If your so good with a sniper go for the head straight away.
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tudors - 549 days 23 hours ago
14 - I hate snipers...
They ruin a lot of games, sure use a sniper has a side weapon but don't just hide in some grass thinking your great when really all your doing is just hiding.
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allexx_2 - 549 days 22 hours ago
14.1 - as i stated above...
It's all about a gamer's play style. I LOVE sniping someone in any game since it makes them get mad and feel vulnerable from any angle with them having no clue to where it came from. Well sniping does involve being patient and using one's enviroment, so there is nothing wrong with hiding when you are a sniper. Maybe you should be better at locating and taking those snipers out, since it seems that is what you lack in those games they have ruined for you.

Also, I try out other weapon classes too.
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Darrius Cole - 549 days 18 hours ago
14.2 - @allexx 2
What you said is exactly the point. You said.....

"I LOVE sniping someone in any game since it makes them get mad and feel VULNERABLE from any angle with them having no clue to where it came from."

They don't just FEEL vulnerable, they ARE vulnerable, while at the same time you, or any other sniper, it perfectly safe and out of range.
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allexx_2 - 549 days 4 hours ago
14.3 - u have a point...
about a player being vulnerable to a sniper but thats what a sniper is supposed to do. This includes providing cover for your own teammates and picking off the opposition to better help out your team's objective. Also, most sniper rifle rounds are heavier and have BIG stopping power so it SHOULD have greater damage. If they take away the 1 shot active reload in gears, they will have to implement something else to make up for it like change the bolt-action style to a magazine-fed style(with say 3-4 bullets). Since, 1 bullet hitting someone in gears was pretty weak and sometimes shoots didn't register when it was a head shot too. We will see in the finished product.
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Daewoodrow - 549 days 18 hours ago
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Actually, I sort of agree with you. If you can't even down somebody with an active reloaded sniper bullet, it's probably not worth sniping. That was probably why they took it out, but I never had a problem with sniper whores on Gears, it was the shotgun whores that pissed me off.
I've already long ago decided that if they don't make the shotgun more fair in the next game I wont be playing multiplayer. Still getting the game regardless though.
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Darrius Cole - 549 days 17 hours ago
16 - All Sniper Rifles are broken
Sniper Rifles break the game-play of any game in which they appear.

The very theory behind a sniper rifle is......I threaten you with death while you can't threaten me at all....That is extremely low risk and very high reward....That results in broken the game play. That is why nobody runs past sniper rifles; even if you can't use it, you take it to a teammate who can. That is why people who snipe get lots of kills; the weapon is broken.

In a sense sniping is cowardly. In order to get a kill you should be forced to put yourself at risk to BE KILLED; with sniper rifles you don't have to do that. It is like a man who only fights women. The odd that he can beat her are very high, while the odds that she can beat him are very low.
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mastercheese179 - 549 days 16 hours ago
17 - Wow
Thats ok I get headshots every time I use it
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Deee187 - 549 days 16 hours ago
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well its true that you wont be getting up after a 50 cal shot.
They should have it a 1 hit kill if its chest and head. If you hit someone in the arm or leg it should at least slow the targets movement down to half the normal speed until they die.
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LiquidRex - 549 days 14 hours ago
20 - Thank God!
Snipers could single-handedly takeout an entire team with ease because of this in Gears. Also, it took away the skill of being a sniper, as anyone who knew how to time an active could easily down people with this method.
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onionbeast - 549 days 14 hours ago
21 - what!
it seems to me that it would not be a that big of a deal because of the ability to crawl once your down so you can clearly move away from the next shot if their is cover
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snakeater - 549 days 13 hours ago
22 - i hate snipers if they camp
to much of a good thing is always bad,move around and grow some balls shotgun is fun bodyparts everywhere
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