Is Too Human the X360's Haze? - Hands-on Report

BulletToothtony - 549 days 8 hours ago

Are these websites that go into a little show and it's absolutely clear that the game is not done yet.. and yet the first thing they do is come out and say the game seems unfinished and has some visuals issues..

Well no crap.. is not completed yet.. this has been a huge issue with so many websites talking crap about ps3 games and i hate it just as much on ps3 games as in 360 games.. it's just stupid to do so.

Most people liked killzone2 but there's always the ones saying, well the gameplay need some touches.. really?? you must be a genious..

Anyhow.. a lot of people are waiting on this game and hopefully it will be just another great game for 360 owners..

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morganfell - 549 days 7 hours ago

WooHoo! The box art is out for Too Human. Royal Hotness!

http://rome.ro/uploaded_ima...

Tony, the game is in beta. it ought to have a very very close resemblance to the final product. That means a lot of the issues are not going away.

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plenty a tool - 549 days 7 hours ago

and it's worth remembering that gameplayer.com.au is a notoriously anti-microsoft web-site, that is reknowned for the articles rubbishing the company and games.

and seeing as one of their sponsored links on the web is for the ps3! it's not to imagine why they are so anti-360.

hydrolex: 10 years...lol. what do you think they are using a ps2 game engine?? the game has been on paper for 10years, not in development(another bit of negative spin from gameplayer). they started work proper in 05 with unreal engine, then they had to stop and start again, plus build their own game engine.

anyway hydrolex why are you trolling the 360 news? infact, i've never seen any too human thread with this many replys....but this is the first thread to take a serious swipe at the game/ enabling all the familiar sony fanboys a chance to come in sling some mud aswell. just look at below to see them all.

very sad and pathetic. but n4g is pretty pathetic

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Highwayman - 549 days 7 hours ago

Hydrolex

Lol.........yeah, we will see. I wonder if you'll retract your previous statement once Fable 2 recieves many scores of 9.0 and above.

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RememberThe357 - 549 days 7 hours ago

@1.2
I thought this was a good preview. They told us what they saw and what their impressions were. They pointed out the issues they saw but added that they could be because the game was not finished. Just because the game gets finished doesn't mean these issues will be resolved. Many, many games are released with issues that seemingly where not addressed in the time that the developer was given between preview and release. Almost every flaw GameInformer pointed out about Mass Effect in their previews were still a problems when the title released. Now I loved me some Mass Effect, don't get me wrong but it shows you what I'm tslking about.

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barom - 549 days 7 hours ago

naw Banjoo Kazooie is 360's next big flop. Too Human looks actually good in my opinion. Plus the folks at 1up (who initially bashed it) loves it. That can't be bad. They bashed the hell out of Banjoo though.

Also I don't think Halo Wars is gonna be that big.

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SlappingOysters - 549 days 6 hours ago

That was a very silly comment. Sorry, but the article states that the game is 90% finsihed. And why do you think MS would host an event and let them play the game for 2hrs if it wasn't to have an article written about it? Wake up to real life.

@ Tool - anti-=MS? Why, yesterdays 'epic fails' of MGS 4 article is easily fogotton isn't it. What about their Bungie Still King article also from yesterday. People like you make me sick, get your head out of MS's arse and realise that someone saying something bad about something isn't a bad thing: it' s a way forward.

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Tomdc - 549 days 6 hours ago

no point in this article! Could be great, might not be... Just like haze we wont find out till the reviews come out.

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BulletToothtony - 549 days 5 hours ago

if you think i'm a 360 fanboy you're in for a treat.. i only own a ps3.

I'm in no company's side.. i'm in the gamers side, what i said is that i don't like is website trying to badmouth a game just to get hits..

i do admit that i didn't read the article yesterday about the epic falls of mgs4 but the titles were stupid. that was my bad yes.

But in case you have not heard the last 10% of the game is the most important part according to many developers..

I'm not defending MS or Sony, i'm just against websites coming up with stupidities that spread fud and SOME people swallow it like if it's the absolute truth..

If you don't agree with my comment feel free to express your point, but don't come here insulting me acting like a high school kid(thou you may be one) when i am in no way insulting you, the moment i do that feel free to defend yourself.

Until then please keep a civilized conversation.. if you want to believe that because one website is saying that this game is gonna flop the game sucks well then that's your decision.

By the 6 agrees and your 1 disagree i believe that i'm not being an "fanboy" i'm just expressing my opinion.

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SlappingOysters - 549 days 5 hours ago

sorry, your right I shouldn't have let me frustration get to me, I just had knee jerk reaction from a few of the comments.

a.) What is the point of a website existing if not to get hits? It amazes me when people on this site say that. It is like saying 'bands only make music for people to listen to it'.

b.) Three journos gave three honest opinions on a hands-on they were given last night. Three people with not the same, but a similar vibe, from the game.

I guess this wasn't some preview based on a trailer, or some gamer's personal site having a rant. It was three professional jounros on a big commercial site's reaction to playing the game for 2hrs. As in it's actually a GENUNINE PREVIEW as opposed to those usual 'everything is wonderful' previews you generally get.

I don't think there was agenda here: it was an impression. And what are we all doing on this site if not to read up on the experiences of the lucky few who have earned the right to see this stuff earlier than the public?

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BulletToothtony - 549 days 5 hours ago

Yeah i do agree about websites needing hits in order to make some money, i often approve controversial news to n4g in order to get some hits on the site.. but this site is ran by users, and for the most part it's a pretty well balanced site.

Leaning a little on the ps3 side but hey that's why i like it.. i used to visit joystiq but them having an 80% of ps3 haters got me tired of it.

I don't have a problem with websites getting hits, i just don't like when they do so by the lack of common sense, by bashing games, specially before the due time, which is by the time of the review..

There is a chance that the game may flop yes.. and they might be right, but i just don't like when they do so in flame bait form, i'm just tired of fanboys which = i don't like website provoking fanboys

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plenty a tool - 549 days 5 hours ago

everyone with half a brain knows how anti-ms gameplayer is. remember all the gta and microsoft panic articles?? and the fact that the same web-site has sponsored links for the ps3 should raise an eyebrow every time they do an anti-ms/360 thread.

bungie still king? i saw the thread but didn't bother looking because when have bungie ever been king? khing of halo maybe, be seeing as they made the game, well...

what was the mgs thread aswell? mgs has been receiving rave reviews! i've not seen any anti-mgs threads. besides, with all the sony fanboys with approval rites, they would never get approved.

it's the poeple like you that make me sick, and that have helped turn a once decent site into a anti microsoft/360 mud-fest. i'm sure there's an rrod thread just waiting for approval somewhere.

and you knew full well that the sony fanboys would be out inforce for this one because as i said it takes a swipe at the game. go back to any other too human thread and see how many replys...that's rite they barely get over 20. but as soon as one is an attack on the game. oh look it's at 95 already. and has only been up a few hours.

i dont mind an opinionated and informed preview. if this had been ign or edge i would've taken note. but seeing as it's from gameplayer??? it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

just an observation. but i've never seen you comment on a too human thread before. interesting that you would want to get this one up?!

this is just a hit generator along the lines of some of bloodmasks recent storys...perhaps there's more than one person gunning for "super contributor" lol...very sad!

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SlappingOysters - 549 days 4 hours ago

they're a plague. If they said Too Human will be X360's Final Fantasy or something the response would have been no diferent.

I don't think it was game bashing, but we may have to agree to disagree there, the impression I got was that they want Too Human to be great, but couldn't help but be disappointed.

@ - plenty a tool.

I am always on gameplayer and there are pro and con articles for everything: not all of them go 1000 degrees on N4g and into your line of sight though. I remember them going into bat for MS when Rockstar offered Sony the package PS3/GTA deal. I just don't think you should come in and make generalised rants on a site while simmultaneously pointed out how you don't even bother to read the articles. Chances are if you haven't been on a site all you read are the stories that go big on n4g: which is probably 10% of everything that goes live and are only the ones that make a statement or opinion which provokes a reaction.

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ChampIDC - 549 days 2 hours ago

He said he CAN'T see them as anything UNDER 8.5, which means no less than 8.5. That's a good thing...

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gaffyh - 549 days ago

From what I have seen of this game it looks crap. I can really see it being a Haze/Lair, same with Fable 2, but the difference with Fable 2 is it has a bigger fanbase, so it may get a low score but still get high sales. It may even get high scores from some of the fanboy reviewers.

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tatotiburon - 548 days 23 hours ago

this game will be great, if not it lower score would be 8 like NG2, still good review...HAZE and LAIR they are FLOP, with 6/10 and 4/10, FLOP, FLOP. I hope you guys know the diference between an 8/10 and a 6/10.

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AAACE5 - 548 days 23 hours ago

Well I have almost no interest in Too Human. It just doesn't seem like it will be that good! Fable was pretty good, so I think Fable 2 should be alot better.

Review Prediction: Fable 2 9/10 Too human 7/10

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Scrooge - 548 days 23 hours ago

This is one of those games I'm going to get regardless of what the reviewers say about it. It's Silicon Knights! I loved Legacy of Kain. The fact remains, if this game sucks then it will be SK's first sucky game of all time. It's a safe bet that it won't suck.

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The Lazy One - 548 days 22 hours ago

There was a game that was in production for the PSX and Gamecube, but that game was canceled.

This game is completely different. They have different plots, drastically different gameplay, and the universe has changed dramatically. This game was built from the ground up starting in 2005.

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GarandShooter - 548 days 20 hours ago

'I hope you guys know the diference between an 8/10 and a 6/10.'

And I hope you know this is an arbitrary numbering system based on NOTHING but opinion. If anyone has 'written guidelines' that show how scores are assessed, I'd like to see it.

'Just like haze we wont find out till the reviews come out.'

Almost agree, I would change it to...we won't find out until we've played it.

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Millah - 548 days 18 hours ago

Unfortunately I knew that this would happen to Too Human. I just saw this coming after all these delays and all the problems Sil. Knights had with development of this game, for some reason I knew this game wouldn't live up to hype and thought this would turn out to be a tragedy since this game does sound very promising and should have been an excellent title. I still have my hopes up because I've been looking forward to this game since the launch of Gamecube, but lets say I won't be shocked when it turns out to be a huge disappointment.

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Highwayman - 548 days 15 hours ago

Champ

He said that he CAN see them going UNDER and 8.5!
His comment wasn't a positive one.

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RememberThe357 - 549 days 7 hours ago

I agree with you about Haze. My god brother bought it and said it was pretty cool, and I'll take his word over any reviewer. That said, this is not politics. Most people want this game to be good. Read the article the authors make it very clear they're looking foreword to the game. The problem is the 10 year thing. People are expecting a lot and I think we'll get a lot. Keep your chin up partner, things'll get better in the end.

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Marojado - 548 days 19 hours ago

I completely agree. I personally enjoyed Haze for the most part. It was a fun distraction from Uni exams and filled the void between GTA and MGS. Likewise, i think that regardless of what scores Too Human gets, it does seem to have a lot going for it and i think people will enjoy themselves regardless of what web reviewers think. I'm personally looking forward to it.

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Closing - 548 days 11 hours ago

I'd like to see any evidence that Haze sold well over 1 million copies. And if it did then people truly will buy any crap that is sold to them.

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e-ray - 549 days 3 hours ago

Well, so far this game has been hype, failure, hype, and now possibly failure. We'll have to wait and see where it ends up. After it changed engines, the media began to like it much more, it seems. That may spell good things for it.

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Condoleezza Rice - 549 days 8 hours ago

But I honestly think the game needs more development time.The gameplay just looks very underwhelming;Not only does it look overly repetitive,but coupled with the graphics,well,let's just say I'm not seeing anything 'next-gen' about it.

Until I can play it I can't state whether or not the overall product will be a miss with gamers,but from everything we've been shown+alarming comments made by the head of Silicon Knights,to be frank,I'm very worried about this title.

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nice_cuppa - 549 days 7 hours ago

i disagree with you and agree with me !

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plenty a tool - 549 days 7 hours ago

why are you worried? do you own a 360? why would anyone call you crazy? the game has been in development since 06! after they dropped the unreal 3 engine and had to start on their own! it's been on paper for ten years....you fanboys are just annoying.

the graphics look good. and, if you had a 360,it would've given you a chance to watch the trailers in HD through a tv, rather than watching them through a computer...meaning that they look pretty damn good on the tv, and better than on the net.

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beavis4play - 549 days 4 hours ago

it started on the ps1. then to gamecube. and this was actual development work-not just "on paper" lol. i remember reading about it. but, if 2.5 years of 360 dev. time ends up to what i've seen in previews; then, this has taken too much time to complete.

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NightVyper - 549 days 4 hours ago

I think the games was originally suppose to come out for PS1 PS2 and who knows what else, but never did which could mean the idea is bad i know every one is like it has to be good it been on paper for years. Really then why wasn't it released on PS2 if it was such a good idea why did it get shelved so many times that is not the sign of a top notch game or concept. silicon knights got lucky with the legacy of kain franchise and it slowly went down hill and then they went no where. this game will be okay at best but it wont be what the hype says it is.

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Condoleezza Rice - 549 days ago

Own 2 as a matter of fact ^.I'm worried because the product isn't shaping up nor looking like it's going to deliver what the gamers EXPECT it to deliver,as everything I've seen,read,and heard thus far,has been troubling and alarming to say the least.

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nycredude - 548 days 23 hours ago

Yeah I am not that impressed with the graphics. Is it using the Unreal engine because it looks kind of like UT3 but not quite as polished? Sh*t I think got spoiled by MGS4!

On a different note, any one of you multiple console owners can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy my friend's Xbox360? He's expecting a kid and no longer wants his xbox...

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The Lazy One - 548 days 22 hours ago

The PS1 and Gamecube versions were the same game. This is a completely different game.

This game has been in development since 05. It doesn't use the unreal engine. It uses an engine built in house mid development (it was originally using unreal).

Anyone upset with the way the game is going now (outside only having 2 player co-op... legitimate complaint) must not have been following the game. The game looks great as it is right now, and most importantly, it looks really fun. It also has a lot of replayability, co-op, and characters that are going to carryover to sequels.

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Closing - 548 days 12 hours ago

@Condoleezza Rice

At this point there is no way they can delay it any further or drastically change it. Development coasts have risen greatly, and they're too far in now. Much much further than they've even been. If they were to delay it any further it would be a few months to polish it up, but nothing more than that. The further they delay it now the worse shape it will be in much reminiscent to Haze.

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Clap Your Hands - 549 days 8 hours ago

People are probably disagreeing with this part of your post:

"And sorry guys how can this game have been in development for 10 years when the 360 is only 2 and 1/2 years old ? The PS versions and N64 versions etc are 10 years old NOT the 360 version.Stop trying to spin unnecessarily."

It's pretty ironic that you should say this :) Too Human was originally in development for the PS1 as a 4-disc action-adventure game. It was shown at E3 1999.

Then the game was moved to the Nintendo GameCube in 2000.

And now finally it's coming for the Xbox 360 in 2008

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morganfell - 549 days 7 hours ago

"As a 360 owner I think this game does stand a chance of being a Haze , But the differance is that this looks better than Haze looked."

DID I JUST READ THAT?

A turd is still a turd whether it glistens with polish or just lays there stinking up the bathroom.

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BattleAxe - 549 days 7 hours ago

Well if you think HAZE looked like crap, then obviously you agree that HALO looks like crap too.

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juuken - 549 days 7 hours ago

...This game looks way too average in my opinion.

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TheExecutive - 549 days 1 hour ago

Haze looks like a GTA FPS. I played the game for 15 minutes then sent it back to gamefly.

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wAtdaFck - 549 days 8 hours ago

-_-

Thats what they said about Haze.

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Vecta - 549 days 7 hours ago

Silicon Knights have also put out two other games in the past 10 years....

Eternal Darkness which scored a 92 average
and
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes which got a 85 average
yeah thats right a Metal Gear Solid game, are they a bad developer now?

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Dacapn - 549 days 7 hours ago

That's a stupid statement. Free Radical put out Goldeneye...then they made Haze.

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Vecta - 549 days 7 hours ago

There are only a few members in Free Radical that actually worked on Goldeneye...

And I was just saying that they have not been working on this game for the past 10 years...

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NO_PUDding - 549 days 3 hours ago

It still stupid becuase Rockstar made GTA III onwards and then GTAIV, the skip into this generation trips plenty of developers.

And GTAIV is also an exmaple of scores not always being and accurate way of rating a game. And Twin Snakes was a pure remake on new hardware, there was nothign creative from their side that went into the Twin Snakes. And it only scored an 85.

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Lekumkee - 548 days 20 hours ago

LMAO yea right, they developed Metal Gear Soild?!?! All they did was recode it for the Gamecube. LMAO!!! Dennis Dyak couldn't even hold Kojimas jock strap. As a matter of fact to true MGS fans he basterdized the game by adding his crap matrix like fighting scenes everywhere.

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pimpstation - 548 days 20 hours ago

Exactly. MGS fans hate the Twins Snakes. All they did was take a classic game, rape it, and then put it on Gamecube.

As for Too Human, it looks wack yo. That's all that needs to be said. Maybe it'll be a decent game, but nuttin special.

Damn, things are really looking bad for xbox fans. First Ninja Gaiden flops, now it looks like Fable 2 is going to be a huge flop, and this game doesn't look too promising. Better start praying that Viva pinata is the best goddamn game ever made.

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gambare - 548 days 19 hours ago

and it was a stealth game, very much like MGS and it was mentioned like a revolutionary title in terms of graphics and gameplay, and now it's a sengoku clone

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Ri0tSquad - 549 days 8 hours ago

But that didn't stop Haze from flopping. Same with Level5 but Lair flopped.

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snoopgg - 549 days 2 hours ago

This game was suppossed to be on the ps2 and xbox. They were working on this game way before 360 or ps3 came out. Those console versions got scrapped and they went on with developemnet for the 360. They are also the company that was suing the Unreal technology because they were having magor problems with the unreal engine. Call me a skeptic, but I think that this game will have some problems. Although, they should be able to make a good game, with all the time they have in this one.

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meepmoopmeep - 549 days 2 hours ago

yeah i know, i'm not saying this game is a hit or a flop. no one knows, but give them the benefit of the doubt. i do, with every developer.

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pwnsause - 549 days 7 hours ago

OH Noez, its a conspiracy, Just Like the Patriots!!!! They Control the System!!!

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KBDuB - 548 days 15 hours ago

Yea.. I'm sure your voice is deep in real life.. riight. We all sound like DMX in real life. Duh. -.-

And, please keep the racist comments to yourself. You sound like an idiot. Just being a racist makes you uneducated.. in it's own right.

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G1TR4P3D - 548 days 11 hours ago

Really? Because I think you meant "its" and not "it's."

You learn something new every day! Now go play some B ball.

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militant07 - 549 days 5 hours ago

i dont think its funny
but what ever your jelouse that 360 games dont flop as ps3

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LTC - 549 days 5 hours ago

POG/Mart
u need to get a life seriously.

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Alexander Roy - 549 days 5 hours ago

Dude, if you would use punctuation marks every now and then, I'd understand you. I can't even disagree, because I don't get what you are talking about.

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Muzzle Flash - 549 days 4 hours ago

Haze was never said to be only capable on ps3, Radical just felt bad because of all the ps3 hate and decided to support an exclusive title for it, it's sad though that the game flopped, not because it's a ps3 game but just the fact that it was out of kindness it was an exclusive and that's probably gonna turn radical 360 degrees to the 360....it's like if someone gives you a 300 million gift and came to your party because everyone else didn't, and their gift ends up sucking after they put all their time into it...

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Britjadg - 549 days 2 hours ago

anybody here speak 360 fanboy?

i need a translation of POGs post.

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Vecta - 549 days 3 hours ago

Since you posted questions ill just answer them

1.No
2.Yes, how else would it run...

And no the game began development in 2005 for the Xbox 360, then around mid 2006 they had to toss a lot out as they got rid of the Unreal 3 engine and had to create their own engine.

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Isaac - 548 days 14 hours ago

It was never a PS2 or Xbox game you moronic Xtard. It was a PS1 game and then a Gamecube game, and last a 360 game, where it will most likely flop, you stupid Kojima wannabe.

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LuHawk - 549 days 2 hours ago

how about you pimp slap yourself real hard

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PSMonster21 - 548 days 23 hours ago

Really? Thats the one game that I actually want thats on the 360.

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pimpstation - 548 days 20 hours ago

360 fans have had it on their list of "big" 2008 exclusives for a while, along with Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, and GeOw2. NG2 flopped, Fable 2 looks like a legendary flop, and this game ain't lookin too good.

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JayCat - 548 days 21 hours ago

it's awfully fanboyish to say that the gamer somehow should feel shame at someone else's failure.

Should the developers feel bad should this flop? Nope. Never be afraid of failure. It's the best way to learn. Figure out where you went wrong, and grow.

again: I don't know if this will be a flop. What we have is 3 guys opinions on an unfinished product. They only played 2 hours. Let's see what the real game is like, play it through, then see.

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